funny but could be true, which is partly why I wouldn't judge him on that one video. But if I saw a pattern then it might start to bother me. I was just saying that unlike boo I don't think it's a great thing that he's bouncing around the stage like a 5yo that has to pee.

Maybe he was cold and was fidgeting to keep warm.

I'm just glad he didnt land on an aircraft carrier and declare mission accomplished.

I just think you're really reaching there. But, of course, you're entitled to your opinion.

I post what I think, I don't play games, so if I miss interpreted what you said I will acknowledge that. So no need to assume that I know but am avoiding something, it's not in my nature to avoid anything.

I neither find Obama disrespectful or unstable or without control. In fact I find him quite stable and patient, though no one is going to be completely perfect in every situation. And I have seen him in countless interviews and situations. I do find him quite in control, and not easily shaken, which is one of the things I like about him.

By the way my first comment was not for you. My only comment to you came after I typed your name. Next time I will post separately.

Yeah that's you skip over everything I posted and post BS like this. Nevermind, last send to you.

Sounds a bit of an exaggeration. Do you have this video? I have never seem him bouncing around the stage.

You know I just realized some thing besides the fact that this thread got hijacked.

Yes it's my opinion that Obama should properly salute the flag when the Natonal Anthem is being played.

Does not saluting the flag mean you are not patriotic? No

I guess I would just like to see our elected officials uphold the laws and rules and codes that they wright.

Title 36 United States Code:
§ 301. National Anthem.
(a) Designation. — The composition consisting of the words and music known as
the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b) Conduct During Playing. — During a rendition of the national anthem —
(1) when the flag is displayed —
(A) all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag
with the right hand over the heart;
(B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and
hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(C) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the antem and maintain that position until the last note.
(2) When the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music
and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30243.pdf

Should our elected national leaders be expected to show proper flag etiquette? I think they should.

And then it hit me!!

Heck some of our elected officials don't even follow the LAWS they wright (Rangel sound familiar)and they still keep there positions.


Obama did run on CHANGE. So I guess he is just doing it because he wants to change our country. And time honored traditions mean nothing anymore.

That's all I have on this topic anymore.

If I were calling him unpatriotic over this one incident I would agree that's reaching and partly why I say I can't agree with TJ completely. But I have reviewed my opinion decided that yeah this is not exactly a great performance by our commander and chief. If you read my earlier statements you'd know that I considered this more of a faux pas than a reason to show disrespect to the president. But I still cannot for the life of me figure how anyone could consider all this a "good thing". That's just doesn't meet with common sense at all.

What's the problem. I read your 'entire post'. You start out by telling me no one is talking about what I was talking about. Then you accuse me of playing dumb and avoiding the question...

Now you accuse me of skipping over everything and posting BS, BS because I see him differently than you do?

There was little to respond to. You gave your opinion of his fidgetting, what else did I need to add? You already knew what I felt about it, so there was no reason to repeat my own view..

yep...THIS is the thread that I thought was the Pledge of Allegiance but wasn't

Well I'll try this in a little plainer english for you since you don't seem to have gotten it from the last post. You've posted about everything except those things asked of you. From that I'm concluding that speaking to you is a waste of my time. Since I'm not fond of wasting my time I am not responding to any topic in this or any other you make. You needn't bother responding I'm not interested.

Yeah kinda got hi-jacked... bet you did that.

not me...remember I posted one thing before I caught up with the newest change then posted again. I don't know where I am or what we are talking about any more no one can derail threads like the political crew huh?

Does seem to be a knack of those in here. I'm sure I've done my share

I have too but I usually blame fran for it but I'm sure I won't learn to not come into the middle of the thread and go with the current conversation, because then I have no idea what the OP was about

Oh heck I do that one all the time ... I do try to go back and check out the OP sooner or later, but I figure the topic at hand is the more important of the two.

I'm not sure who you're talking about that said it was a good thing. I don't think it was me. However, I do not think what happened in that video was important or anything to dwell on.

I wondered why we had 2 pledge of allegiance threads. wouldn't be the first double thread...just wondered. now I know