Topic: my reason for abondoning god
TBRich's photo
Tue 06/30/09 04:00 PM
Even though Trubeliever has diluted her argument, she is correct on the main point, g-d is supposed to give you and inner sense of peace and purpose, this is the reason you should abandom the airy fairy notion.

Redykeulous's photo
Tue 06/30/09 07:23 PM
I always felt, if you want to believe in a God creator then do so by
reading about ethics and then adopting the best active morals which will support your ethical beliefs. Determining that we (humans) are only one part of the whole picture, that we are no less and no greater than anything that exists in the universe, and finally realizing that our happiness, our continuance as a species can never be fulfilled until we accept the responsibility of our actions. That means considering the repercussions of our actions upon everything that exists.

We are only one infantesimal part of the emergent qualities of the universe and like all actions, our own serve as an evolutionary tool though which tomorrow will emerge anew.

Abide by moral standards that extend respect for all of nature and in any God's eyes you cannot be wrong.

Eljay's photo
Tue 06/30/09 08:20 PM

to be honest there are
3 good reasons that i went form pentecostal to agnostic.
1 i refuse to accept teh one world voice/one world choice of teh end times
2 i will never respect anyone who thinks george w bush was a decent president and tells me he did gods work.
3 churchs feed you there own man made dogma of endless crap and doctrine, in other words their way of tricking you outta every dime you get for some quick to dispose of ministy purpose.


Sounds more like you have problems with people, rather than God.

I don't see God having to do with any of your points.

trubeliever's photo
Wed 07/01/09 06:28 PM
rant No argument here, thought it made perfect sence to me. But I have been told I am very blonde..lol:banana:
But thats ok I like being diluted its worked for me for 19yrs.
God Bless:angel: Ya'll be good.waving

TBRich's photo
Thu 07/02/09 12:13 PM

rant No argument here, thought it made perfect sence to me. But I have been told I am very ..lol:banana:
But thats ok I like being diluted its worked for me for 19yrs.
God Bless:angel: Ya'll be good.waving


Now you sound delusional! LOL!

Biosphere's photo
Thu 07/02/09 05:58 PM
Edited by Biosphere on Thu 07/02/09 05:59 PM
Remember chela's
We are not a Human living in Spirit,
we are Spirit living a Human experience.
Even if your a genetically made clone,
you have the opportunity to walk in light.
Love and peace to all, for all is one.

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 07/03/09 02:20 PM

AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 07/03/09 03:55 PM


to be honest there are
3 good reasons that i went form pentecostal to agnostic.
1 i refuse to accept teh one world voice/one world choice of teh end times
2 i will never respect anyone who thinks george w bush was a decent president and tells me he did gods work.
3 churchs feed you there own man made dogma of endless crap and doctrine, in other words their way of tricking you outta every dime you get for some quick to dispose of ministy purpose.


God is there, he just isn't what man can put into words, even though they all try, don't give up on God, give up on man.

Er... One should never give up on us... Only by understanding and accepting what we are can we ever hope to move closer to iam (without its help).

Understanding the image may just lead to a greater understanding of the concept.

trubeliever's photo
Fri 07/03/09 04:26 PM


rant No argument here, thought it made perfect sence to me. But I have been told I am very ..lol:banana:
But thats ok I like being diluted its worked for me for 19yrs.
God Bless:angel: Ya'll be good.waving


Now you sound delusional! LOL!

Thanks for that I've been called worse..loltears bigsmile

TBRich's photo
Mon 07/06/09 11:15 AM



rant No argument here, thought it made perfect sence to me. But I have been told I am very ..lol:banana:
But thats ok I like being diluted its worked for me for 19yrs.
God Bless:angel: Ya'll be good.waving


Now you sound delusional! LOL!

Thanks for that I've been called worse..loltears bigsmile


Oooh, I bet you have, you bad little woman...

trubeliever's photo
Mon 07/06/09 06:51 PM
rofl what more can i say that was very funny.laugh

no photo
Tue 07/07/09 04:03 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Tue 07/07/09 04:04 PM

God wont stop you doing whatever u want to do that is free will. You can call me diluted if you want but I do believe in Him and I dont like it one bit being told what to do, thats the thing now I want to do the things of God.
I'm sorry you have had a bad experience with church and people in the churches. And there are some out there who are in it for all the wrong reasons and shame on them. But the thing is one day they will have to answer for what they have done and so will we. I do hope you change your mind and dont give up on Him, He wont give up on You.


I would never call you diluted . . . unless of course you where chopped up and mixed into a solution.



to be honest there are
3 good reasons that i went form pentecostal to agnostic.
1 i refuse to accept teh one world voice/one world choice of teh end times
2 i will never respect anyone who thinks george w bush was a decent president and tells me he did gods work.
3 churchs feed you there own man made dogma of endless crap and doctrine, in other words their way of tricking you outta every dime you get for some quick to dispose of ministy purpose.


Sounds more like you have problems with people, rather than God.

I don't see God having to do with any of your points.
Yes, but we have to ask the begged question.

Can people EVER know the will of god? If not then all forms of worship are useless and are by there very nature man made.

AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 07/07/09 08:50 PM


God wont stop you doing whatever u want to do that is free will. You can call me diluted if you want but I do believe in Him and I dont like it one bit being told what to do, thats the thing now I want to do the things of God.
I'm sorry you have had a bad experience with church and people in the churches. And there are some out there who are in it for all the wrong reasons and shame on them. But the thing is one day they will have to answer for what they have done and so will we. I do hope you change your mind and dont give up on Him, He wont give up on You.


I would never call you diluted . . . unless of course you where chopped up and mixed into a solution.



to be honest there are
3 good reasons that i went form pentecostal to agnostic.
1 i refuse to accept teh one world voice/one world choice of teh end times
2 i will never respect anyone who thinks george w bush was a decent president and tells me he did gods work.
3 churchs feed you there own man made dogma of endless crap and doctrine, in other words their way of tricking you outta every dime you get for some quick to dispose of ministy purpose.


Sounds more like you have problems with people, rather than God.

I don't see God having to do with any of your points.
Yes, but we have to ask the begged question.

Can people EVER know the will of god? If not then all forms of worship are useless and are by there very nature man made.

Perhaps gods will is that we exercise free will.

In which case... Proceed as you will.(cause no harm be not harmed)

KylePhxAz's photo
Wed 07/08/09 07:18 AM



God wont stop you doing whatever u want to do that is free will. You can call me diluted if you want but I do believe in Him and I dont like it one bit being told what to do, thats the thing now I want to do the things of God.
I'm sorry you have had a bad experience with church and people in the churches. And there are some out there who are in it for all the wrong reasons and shame on them. But the thing is one day they will have to answer for what they have done and so will we. I do hope you change your mind and dont give up on Him, He wont give up on You.


I would never call you diluted . . . unless of course you where chopped up and mixed into a solution.



to be honest there are
3 good reasons that i went form pentecostal to agnostic.
1 i refuse to accept teh one world voice/one world choice of teh end times
2 i will never respect anyone who thinks george w bush was a decent president and tells me he did gods work.
3 churchs feed you there own man made dogma of endless crap and doctrine, in other words their way of tricking you outta every dime you get for some quick to dispose of ministy purpose.


Sounds more like you have problems with people, rather than God.

I don't see God having to do with any of your points.
Yes, but we have to ask the begged question.

Can people EVER know the will of god? If not then all forms of worship are useless and are by there very nature man made.

Perhaps gods will is that we exercise free will.

In which case... Proceed as you will.(cause no harm be not harmed)

I believe i can be of some help here.

I know it can be hard to keep faith in God when adversity hits your life, But remember when it does its just God trying to get you closer to Him. When your haveing difficulty's in life God wants you to turn to Him for needs. He is there for you I know it and always will be. Have faith brother and take the next step knowing that God has a greater plan for you ahead. Just make sure when you take that step that you take it with His Guidence. I'll put you in my prayers.

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Wed 07/08/09 11:00 AM

I believe i can be of some help here.

I know it can be hard to keep faith in God when adversity hits your life, But remember when it does its just God trying to get you closer to Him. When your haveing difficulty's in life God wants you to turn to Him for needs. He is there for you I know it and always will be. Have faith brother and take the next step knowing that God has a greater plan for you ahead. Just make sure when you take that step that you take it with His Guidence. I'll put you in my prayers.

That is probably the most asinine of concepts that gets me about this particular version of the personal god . . .

That he would put you through misery to get you to like him is antithetical to common sense, his own stated morals in the bible and any form of ethics.

Contradiction in terms in relation to a loving god.

trubeliever's photo
Wed 07/08/09 11:52 AM
No the point he was tryiing to make is that God dont cause these problems we do. For example if someone has sex ( not a tacky wordhappy ) and gets a desease then its their fault not Gods. Yes He could of stoped it if He wanted but that is the conquences of the sin. I have been through things in my life that at the time i didnt understand.I try to be a good Christian, so why was I having to go through these things then later down the road someone else was going through something simlar and they could get strenght from me and I will get strength from them. See my church family comes in a very close second to my blood family and they are there for me always. i have never had them go "NOPE, not my problem". it has always been what can i do to help. I've said it before if you havent believed then there is no way you can understand. But the thing is it dont matter whether u believe or not because its true. How do i know because i was there the night Jesus saved me and made me a new person. I can do anything i want to do but the thing is i dont want to do the things i used to do they dont interest me anymore. This may not have helped one bit but i hope it does. Have a great day.:banana:

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 07/08/09 07:39 PM

I believe i can be of some help here.

I know it can be hard to keep faith in God when adversity hits your life, But remember when it does its just God trying to get you closer to Him. When your haveing difficulty's in life God wants you to turn to Him for needs. He is there for you I know it and always will be. Have faith brother and take the next step knowing that God has a greater plan for you ahead. Just make sure when you take that step that you take it with His Guidence. I'll put you in my prayers.


When adversity hits me I hit it back.

If you see your going to have an accident do you expect GOD to stop you... Or do you put on the brakes yourself.


Abracadabra's photo
Thu 07/09/09 03:44 PM

That is probably the most asinine of concepts that gets me about this particular version of the personal god . . .

That he would put you through misery to get you to like him is antithetical to common sense, his own stated morals in the bible and any form of ethics.

Contradiction in terms in relation to a loving god.


Truly.


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Sat 07/25/09 12:31 PM

to be honest there are
3 good reasons that i went form pentecostal to agnostic.
1 i refuse to accept teh one world voice/one world choice of teh end times
2 i will never respect anyone who thinks george w bush was a decent president and tells me he did gods work.
3 churchs feed you there own man made dogma of endless crap and doctrine, in other words their way of tricking you outta every dime you get for some quick to dispose of ministy purpose.


Hey, if God wants you to know Him, he'll send you an email. If he's God, surely He knows address. That's what I'm waiting for, anyway. lol

lonetar25's photo
Sat 07/25/09 12:45 PM
i know many of you will snarl at the very thought of me posting here, but i did indeed abandon god, and i feel i was justified even if he did cry like a girl, and spread nasty rumours about my mum, now the reason was, he kept peeing on the toilet seat, now thats fine if you wipe away any evidensce, but he did not even atempt this simple curtiosy. and i got sick of going for a dump in the night, and sitting in god pee, thats just not acceptable no matter how holy he thinks his water is.