Topic: my reason for abondoning god
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Sat 07/25/09 12:47 PM

i know many of you will snarl at the very thought of me posting here, but i did indeed abandon god, and i feel i was justified even if he did cry like a girl, and spread nasty rumours about my mum, now the reason was, he kept peeing on the toilet seat, now thats fine if you wipe away any evidensce, but he did not even atempt this simple curtiosy. and i got sick of going for a dump in the night, and sitting in god pee, thats just not acceptable no matter how holy he thinks his water is.
Amendrinker

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Sat 07/25/09 12:47 PM

i know many of you will snarl at the very thought of me posting here, but i did indeed abandon god, and i feel i was justified even if he did cry like a girl, and spread nasty rumours about my mum, now the reason was, he kept peeing on the toilet seat, now thats fine if you wipe away any evidensce, but he did not even atempt this simple curtiosy. and i got sick of going for a dump in the night, and sitting in god pee, thats just not acceptable no matter how holy he thinks his water is.
Amendrinker

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Sat 07/25/09 12:47 PM
SNARL!

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Sat 07/25/09 12:49 PM

SNARL!
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Sat 07/25/09 05:34 PM
I dont know either way if this is true. Maybe it was GOD that led you not away from him, but away from the hypocrycy or wrong doings of that church. Maybe this isnt your end with GOD, but your beginning.

I always say:

Relationship (with GOD) > Religion

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Sun 07/26/09 03:54 PM
Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)



If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.



What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker?


Answer: God.


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Sun 07/26/09 03:56 PM
Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)



When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)


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Sun 07/26/09 03:59 PM
hhhhmmm it sounds as if you have some hidden problem that you are not telling everyone. Earlier there was someone who commented on being positive....You might think real close about your beliefs and your reason for being here on this planet...

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Sun 07/26/09 04:01 PM
Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)



So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.



The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."



Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.



Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?


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Sun 07/26/09 04:02 PM

Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)



If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.



What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker?


Answer: God.


rofl rofl rofl

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Sun 07/26/09 04:03 PM

Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)



When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)


Miror nice quote...I am having a difficult time making your connection though...enlighten me plz

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Sun 07/26/09 04:03 PM
More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)



As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.



What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?


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Sun 07/26/09 04:04 PM


Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)



When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)


Miror nice quote...I am having a difficult time making your connection though...enlighten me plz
flowerforyou No point.:smile: Just showing bible scriptures. :smile: People can draw their own conclusionsflowerforyou

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Sun 07/26/09 04:05 PM
If everyone has not already figured it out the Bible got thrown in the trash when he became Agnostic.....his faith and his belief in God is for sure being tested....Back to Basics...

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Sun 07/26/09 04:08 PM

More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)



As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.



What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?


I get your point but, he is challenging the existance of God would this not suggest that he needs to think more to the effect of his own life and his direction???

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Sun 07/26/09 04:39 PM
Edited by Benofzen on Sun 07/26/09 04:41 PM
Where in the Bible does GOD ever say: I like rape. I like babies being killed. I enjoy when people suffer. ???

When does GOD ever say that he takes pleasure in suffering?

AS to the the whole rape thing: In those days, no man would have a woman who was raped. She was considered damages goods. And as a woman without a husband, a woman would have little to no options for any kind of decent life. Is that harsh and fu**ed up? Yes, but guess what. Life can be very harsh. Welcome to the real world.

So GOD had that law as a way of saying to the rapist: "You took this woman's viginity, now you are gonna pay her father AND you're gonna marry her" Since in that culture, no good man would have had her after she was with another man, for any reason.

Its fun when people cut and past from the Bible, but having some understanding of the times and/or culture helps a person grasp the true meaning of what it written in there.


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Sun 07/26/09 04:44 PM

Where in the Bible does GOD ever say: I like rape. I like babies being killed. I enjoy when people suffer. ???

When does GOD ever say that he takes pleasure in suffering?

AS to the the whole rape thing: In those days, no man would have a woman who was raped. She was considered damages goods. And a woman without a husband, a woman would have little to no options for any kind of decent life. Is that harsh and fu**ed up? Yes, but guess what. Life can be very harsh. Welcome to the real world.

So GOD had that law as a way of saying to the rapist: "You took this woman's viginity, now you are gonna pay her father AND you're gonna marry her" Since in that culture, no good man would have had her after she was with another man, for any reason.

Its fun when people cut and past from the Bible, but having some understanding of the times and/or culture helps a person grasp the true meaning of what it written in there.




Thats your interpretation of it anyway. It does make sense though, and it goes to prove that the Bible was written by man to fit for the times of the day, rather than by god to fit for us today.

I am a heathen, so stone me.

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Sun 07/26/09 04:47 PM


Where in the Bible does GOD ever say: I like rape. I like babies being killed. I enjoy when people suffer. ???

When does GOD ever say that he takes pleasure in suffering?

AS to the the whole rape thing: In those days, no man would have a woman who was raped. She was considered damages goods. And a woman without a husband, a woman would have little to no options for any kind of decent life. Is that harsh and fu**ed up? Yes, but guess what. Life can be very harsh. Welcome to the real world.

So GOD had that law as a way of saying to the rapist: "You took this woman's viginity, now you are gonna pay her father AND you're gonna marry her" Since in that culture, no good man would have had her after she was with another man, for any reason.

Its fun when people cut and past from the Bible, but having some understanding of the times and/or culture helps a person grasp the true meaning of what it written in there.




Thats your interpretation of it anyway. It does make sense though, and it goes to prove that the Bible was written by man to fit for the times of the day, rather than by god to fit for us today.

I am a heathen, so stone me.
I will pray for you my friend and hopefully you will see things differently

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Sun 07/26/09 04:54 PM


Where in the Bible does GOD ever say: I like rape. I like babies being killed. I enjoy when people suffer. ???

When does GOD ever say that he takes pleasure in suffering?

AS to the the whole rape thing: In those days, no man would have a woman who was raped. She was considered damages goods. And a woman without a husband, a woman would have little to no options for any kind of decent life. Is that harsh and fu**ed up? Yes, but guess what. Life can be very harsh. Welcome to the real world.

So GOD had that law as a way of saying to the rapist: "You took this woman's viginity, now you are gonna pay her father AND you're gonna marry her" Since in that culture, no good man would have had her after she was with another man, for any reason.

Its fun when people cut and past from the Bible, but having some understanding of the times and/or culture helps a person grasp the true meaning of what it written in there.




Thats your interpretation of it anyway. It does make sense though, and it goes to prove that the Bible was written by man to fit for the times of the day, rather than by god to fit for us today.

I am a heathen, so stone me.


Yes,Dan. I will be the first to say that my interpretation (of many things) can be wrong. I still hold to the belief that these laws were written by GOD knowing what complete pri*ks men can be.

And you seem pretty cool for a heathen. I bet a lot of us so called Christians lead a far more sin filled life than you do :smile:

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Sun 07/26/09 04:54 PM



Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)



When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)


Miror nice quote...I am having a difficult time making your connection though...enlighten me plz
flowerforyou No point.:smile: Just showing bible scriptures. :smile: People can draw their own conclusionsflowerforyou
Miror,...I think it is good to allow everyone to think about these historical happenings...the question is what have we learned and what changes can we make in our own lives to prevent these things from happenig again....as we all know rape, murder, ect is currently on the rise durring these tough times..everyone pray for those you know are in need..