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Chernobyl, is what one gets after pushing for new technologies in an artificial manner, through the government decree, and not in a natural manner, by allowing businesses to compete.
After a lot of money is spent, materials wasted, people moved, you suddenly find out that you don't know sh!t about what you're doing. You look around and try to find all those experts. Turns out they all had a particular private interest in appearing as expert, but not in the final outcome, as it is not their property. All you have, is an explosion and leaking poisoning. After all the spending, waste, and most importantly, lost time and opportunity. All of these green projects, health-care, whatever, will turn out to be a Chernobyl of it's own. It can't be any other way, because the people who own are not the same people who make decisions, and are not the same people who receive the profits. No one, therefore, is interested in the success of these undertakings. Try to put down a tree with such a set up. Much less, create a state of the art energy plant or cure the humanity. |
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Chernobyl, is what one gets after pushing for new technologies in an artificial manner, through the government decree, and not in a natural manner, by allowing businesses to compete. After a lot of money is spent, materials wasted, people moved, you suddenly find out that you don't know sh!t about what you're doing. You look around and try to find all those experts. Turns out they all had a particular private interest in appearing as expert, but not in the final outcome, as it is not their property. All you have, is an explosion and leaking poisoning. After all the spending, waste, and most importantly, lost time and opportunity. All of these green projects, health-care, whatever, will turn out to be a Chernobyl of it's own. It can't be any other way, because the people who own are not the same people who make decisions, and are not the same people who receive the profits. No one, therefore, is interested in the success of these undertakings. Try to put down a tree with such a set up. Much less, create a state of the art energy plant or cure the humanity. |
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i'm glad it's destroing us, i've now pledged my allegiance to the zionists cause.
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It's true bro... As Andrew said, the problem is runaway inflation. They are trying to prevent that for right now so things don't happen so fast. Remember, the main goal of these people is a one world government. So this is where some wealth is distributed to China from the U.S. In the end it all goes to the same cause if you think about it doesn't it? guys, the same people who own our federal reserve bank, own the other central banks in all of the other countries. ask yourself how they managed to make this a world wide crisis with every country going through the exact same thing. we aren't borrowing money from china itself, we are borrowing it from the central bank. that's just like thinking that if a country borrowed from the federal reserve, they would owe it back to the united states. they won't owe it back to the US, they would owe it back to the federal reserve. Right, but i didn't think they were printing money to borrow, just borrowing from China's reserve... If tehy are printing it it would be far more disasterous than i originally thought, as inflation would hit the market on top of having to make payments. |
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It's true bro... As Andrew said, the problem is runaway inflation. They are trying to prevent that for right now so things don't happen so fast. Remember, the main goal of these people is a one world government. So this is where some wealth is distributed to China from the U.S. In the end it all goes to the same cause if you think about it doesn't it? guys, the same people who own our federal reserve bank, own the other central banks in all of the other countries. ask yourself how they managed to make this a world wide crisis with every country going through the exact same thing. we aren't borrowing money from china itself, we are borrowing it from the central bank. that's just like thinking that if a country borrowed from the federal reserve, they would owe it back to the united states. they won't owe it back to the US, they would owe it back to the federal reserve. Right, but i didn't think they were printing money to borrow, just borrowing from China's reserve... If tehy are printing it it would be far more disasterous than i originally thought, as inflation would hit the market on top of having to make payments. you have to remember, there is no such thing as a real reserve. the reserve is air. there never was a so called 'reserve' that has been a farce this whole time. you have to remember, the only people borrowing anything is our government from the central banks who print money from thin air. it doesnt matter where the money comes from, more money injected into our system from the federal reserve or the central bank in china still spells out the same thing "i-n-f-l-a-t-i-o-n" |
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Chernobyl, is what one gets after pushing for new technologies in an artificial manner, through the government decree, and not in a natural manner, by allowing businesses to compete. After a lot of money is spent, materials wasted, people moved, you suddenly find out that you don't know sh!t about what you're doing. You look around and try to find all those experts. Turns out they all had a particular private interest in appearing as expert, but not in the final outcome, as it is not their property. All you have, is an explosion and leaking poisoning. After all the spending, waste, and most importantly, lost time and opportunity. All of these green projects, health-care, whatever, will turn out to be a Chernobyl of it's own. It can't be any other way, because the people who own are not the same people who make decisions, and are not the same people who receive the profits. No one, therefore, is interested in the success of these undertakings. Try to put down a tree with such a set up. Much less, create a state of the art energy plant or cure the humanity. Show me where we had unregulated capitalism? We HAVEN'T!! Madison, bro, the market has been over regulated for almost 100 years now. All the regulations do is prevent smaller businesses from becoming big ones. The media is a horrible place to turn for economic advice. No matter how unbiased. If you look at how our system works you would see that market sets its own prices, incredible inflation is no necessary, and government programs hurt the middle class... Regulating the market and starting these programs brough down Rome, and has brought down many other nations. It will bring us down as well... |
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Edited by
Drivinmenutz
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Sun 03/01/09 03:57 PM
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It's true bro... As Andrew said, the problem is runaway inflation. They are trying to prevent that for right now so things don't happen so fast. Remember, the main goal of these people is a one world government. So this is where some wealth is distributed to China from the U.S. In the end it all goes to the same cause if you think about it doesn't it? guys, the same people who own our federal reserve bank, own the other central banks in all of the other countries. ask yourself how they managed to make this a world wide crisis with every country going through the exact same thing. we aren't borrowing money from china itself, we are borrowing it from the central bank. that's just like thinking that if a country borrowed from the federal reserve, they would owe it back to the united states. they won't owe it back to the US, they would owe it back to the federal reserve. Right, but i didn't think they were printing money to borrow, just borrowing from China's reserve... If tehy are printing it it would be far more disasterous than i originally thought, as inflation would hit the market on top of having to make payments. you have to remember, there is no such thing as a real reserve. the reserve is air. there never was a so called 'reserve' that has been a farce this whole time. you have to remember, the only people borrowing anything is our government from the central banks who print money from thin air. it doesnt matter where the money comes from, more money injected into our system from the federal reserve or the central bank in china still spells out the same thing "i-n-f-l-a-t-i-o-n" i stand corrected, yet again... 
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Chernobyl, is what one gets after pushing for new technologies in an artificial manner, through the government decree, and not in a natural manner, by allowing businesses to compete. After a lot of money is spent, materials wasted, people moved, you suddenly find out that you don't know sh!t about what you're doing. You look around and try to find all those experts. Turns out they all had a particular private interest in appearing as expert, but not in the final outcome, as it is not their property. All you have, is an explosion and leaking poisoning. After all the spending, waste, and most importantly, lost time and opportunity. All of these green projects, health-care, whatever, will turn out to be a Chernobyl of it's own. It can't be any other way, because the people who own are not the same people who make decisions, and are not the same people who receive the profits. No one, therefore, is interested in the success of these undertakings. Try to put down a tree with such a set up. Much less, create a state of the art energy plant or cure the humanity. Show me where we had unregulated capitalism? We HAVEN'T!! Madison, bro, the market has been over regulated for almost 100 years now. All the regulations do is prevent smaller businesses from becoming big ones. The media is a horrible place to turn for economic advice. No matter how unbiased. If you look at how our system works you would see that market sets its own prices, incredible inflation is no necessary, and government programs hurt the middle class... Regulating the market and starting these programs brough down Rome, and has brought down many other nations. It will bring us down as well... in fact, a little known fact is that the federal reserve has been regulating this whole situation from the get go. our situation has been highly regulated, just not regulated by the good guys. |
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Chernobyl, is what one gets after pushing for new technologies in an artificial manner, through the government decree, and not in a natural manner, by allowing businesses to compete. After a lot of money is spent, materials wasted, people moved, you suddenly find out that you don't know sh!t about what you're doing. You look around and try to find all those experts. Turns out they all had a particular private interest in appearing as expert, but not in the final outcome, as it is not their property. All you have, is an explosion and leaking poisoning. After all the spending, waste, and most importantly, lost time and opportunity. All of these green projects, health-care, whatever, will turn out to be a Chernobyl of it's own. It can't be any other way, because the people who own are not the same people who make decisions, and are not the same people who receive the profits. No one, therefore, is interested in the success of these undertakings. Try to put down a tree with such a set up. Much less, create a state of the art energy plant or cure the humanity. Show me where we had unregulated capitalism? We HAVEN'T!! Madison, bro, the market has been over regulated for almost 100 years now. All the regulations do is prevent smaller businesses from becoming big ones. The media is a horrible place to turn for economic advice. No matter how unbiased. If you look at how our system works you would see that market sets its own prices, incredible inflation is no necessary, and government programs hurt the middle class... Regulating the market and starting these programs brough down Rome, and has brought down many other nations. It will bring us down as well... in fact, a little known fact is that the federal reserve has been regulating this whole situation from the get go. our situation has been highly regulated, just not regulated by the good guys. These guys' best trick was convincing the population it need regulating. People swallowed it up. Now the same people are trying to convince everyone that they can't take care of themselves, and they need Uncle Sam to take care of them... A free market is self regulating. They didn't have all these crazy problems until they were invented.... |
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thats true. but it all comes with the infamous fractional reserve banking system. it's an elaborate system of smoke and mirrors
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I do not think chernobyl is a good anology. the only thing that keeps Nuke plants from bloweing up in this country is the government over site. If we let it up to the capitalists they would never shut down plants for saftey. That is what you would do if you had 500 bln dollars and build some kind of power plant? You'd never shut it down for safety, unless there is a government oversight? Think twice, before you say yes to this, because you just might remove any doubts, with regards to why is it that you have no such sum. We basicly had un regulated capitalsitm for the last 4 years or so possibly 8 and it destroyed us. Last 4 or possibly 8 years? An unregulated capitalism? |
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So yes, while the money can be printed out of thin air, the ramifications would be disastrous and you would without a doubt see the fall of America. isn't that what we are seeing? the dollar now is worth 4 cents compared to it's value in 1913, that's a 96% devaluation in just 96 years. this is caused by pumping too much fake money into the system which causes inflation and devaluation of the dollar. You cannot compare directly though because of our current global marketplace. If the US had been completely in isolation, then yes, that's a bad thing. I'm not saying money that has only a figurative value is a good thing, I'm just saying that our inflation has maintained on average with the rest of the free world. So in perspective, it's not so bad. What we have now is not so much the danger of inflation a-la Carter and the 1970s, but deflation like the 1930s - I assure you, deflation is far worse because it is 10x harder to combat. The entire world marketplace is contracting. If slipping demand results in lower prices for any extended period of time, we're screwed. The ultimate solution would be to abolish the federal reserve and go back to a gold/silver/something of value based currency. Unfortunately, with the current world marketplace, it is not so easy - we would find ourselves down on funding while other nations loaned "worthless" paper and could borrow and lend all they wished. However, our economy would be far more stable with more subtle fluctuations. The real solution, as far as taking the first step, would be to first ween ourselves from credit for day-to-day expenses. If you're purchasing a $25k car or $250k house, credit has a place - because the loan is secured and a person should qualify for it (10-20% down, good credit, stable income) like 15 years ago. What we do not need is people running around with $10k and $50k limits on their Visa buying new toys whenever they wish. The less debt held by the people, the more "real" money is flowing in the economy and the less likely you are to have this sudden credit collapse. Once we ween ourselves that far, the step into moving to a valued currency will not be so great. While it sounds like it's needed, the last thing we need it more regulation. We actually need almost none but restructure the economy instead. By eliminating the legislation that allows things like bundling mortgages and trading them as securities like they have a physical value, we will eliminate a lot of problems. Trading of securities need to be done with value-backed notes from the Treasury and stocks/bonds that are backed, again by something with value - either the company (and a physical share of the assets) or with silver, gold, or another valued commodity. |
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Chernobyl, is what one gets after pushing for new technologies in an artificial manner, through the government decree, and not in a natural manner, by allowing businesses to compete. After a lot of money is spent, materials wasted, people moved, you suddenly find out that you don't know sh!t about what you're doing. You look around and try to find all those experts. Turns out they all had a particular private interest in appearing as expert, but not in the final outcome, as it is not their property. All you have, is an explosion and leaking poisoning. After all the spending, waste, and most importantly, lost time and opportunity. All of these green projects, health-care, whatever, will turn out to be a Chernobyl of it's own. It can't be any other way, because the people who own are not the same people who make decisions, and are not the same people who receive the profits. No one, therefore, is interested in the success of these undertakings. Try to put down a tree with such a set up. Much less, create a state of the art energy plant or cure the humanity. Nuclear power is obviously something not to be toyed with. If a person invests billions into it, they want to make sure their investment is sound and secure. If there is any danger that would cause an exposure issue or safety hazard, it will be shut down. If your investment blows up, the entire project is now worthless - including the land it's built on for decades to come. |
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Chernobyl, is what one gets after pushing for new technologies in an artificial manner, through the government decree, and not in a natural manner, by allowing businesses to compete. After a lot of money is spent, materials wasted, people moved, you suddenly find out that you don't know sh!t about what you're doing. You look around and try to find all those experts. Turns out they all had a particular private interest in appearing as expert, but not in the final outcome, as it is not their property. All you have, is an explosion and leaking poisoning. After all the spending, waste, and most importantly, lost time and opportunity. All of these green projects, health-care, whatever, will turn out to be a Chernobyl of it's own. It can't be any other way, because the people who own are not the same people who make decisions, and are not the same people who receive the profits. No one, therefore, is interested in the success of these undertakings. Try to put down a tree with such a set up. Much less, create a state of the art energy plant or cure the humanity. Show me where we had unregulated capitalism? We HAVEN'T!! Madison, bro, the market has been over regulated for almost 100 years now. All the regulations do is prevent smaller businesses from becoming big ones. The media is a horrible place to turn for economic advice. No matter how unbiased. If you look at how our system works you would see that market sets its own prices, incredible inflation is no necessary, and government programs hurt the middle class... Regulating the market and starting these programs brough down Rome, and has brought down many other nations. It will bring us down as well... |
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Chernobyl, is what one gets after pushing for new technologies in an artificial manner, through the government decree, and not in a natural manner, by allowing businesses to compete. After a lot of money is spent, materials wasted, people moved, you suddenly find out that you don't know sh!t about what you're doing. You look around and try to find all those experts. Turns out they all had a particular private interest in appearing as expert, but not in the final outcome, as it is not their property. All you have, is an explosion and leaking poisoning. After all the spending, waste, and most importantly, lost time and opportunity. All of these green projects, health-care, whatever, will turn out to be a Chernobyl of it's own. It can't be any other way, because the people who own are not the same people who make decisions, and are not the same people who receive the profits. No one, therefore, is interested in the success of these undertakings. Try to put down a tree with such a set up. Much less, create a state of the art energy plant or cure the humanity. Show me where we had unregulated capitalism? We HAVEN'T!! Madison, bro, the market has been over regulated for almost 100 years now. All the regulations do is prevent smaller businesses from becoming big ones. The media is a horrible place to turn for economic advice. No matter how unbiased. If you look at how our system works you would see that market sets its own prices, incredible inflation is no necessary, and government programs hurt the middle class... Regulating the market and starting these programs brough down Rome, and has brought down many other nations. It will bring us down as well... Bro, they were. Free markets are self regulating. Monopolies are born from market interference. Read up on monetary theory, and market regulation. You forget, the people that made the laws had muitlibillion dollar corporations in mind. |
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AndreAV,
I have no doubt you will have funds in the future. I was just curious if it was a bad luck or wise strike of providence that had left someone else without such. |
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Chernobyl, is what one gets after pushing for new technologies in an artificial manner, through the government decree, and not in a natural manner, by allowing businesses to compete. After a lot of money is spent, materials wasted, people moved, you suddenly find out that you don't know sh!t about what you're doing. You look around and try to find all those experts. Turns out they all had a particular private interest in appearing as expert, but not in the final outcome, as it is not their property. All you have, is an explosion and leaking poisoning. After all the spending, waste, and most importantly, lost time and opportunity. All of these green projects, health-care, whatever, will turn out to be a Chernobyl of it's own. It can't be any other way, because the people who own are not the same people who make decisions, and are not the same people who receive the profits. No one, therefore, is interested in the success of these undertakings. Try to put down a tree with such a set up. Much less, create a state of the art energy plant or cure the humanity. Show me where we had unregulated capitalism? We HAVEN'T!! Madison, bro, the market has been over regulated for almost 100 years now. All the regulations do is prevent smaller businesses from becoming big ones. The media is a horrible place to turn for economic advice. No matter how unbiased. If you look at how our system works you would see that market sets its own prices, incredible inflation is no necessary, and government programs hurt the middle class... Regulating the market and starting these programs brough down Rome, and has brought down many other nations. It will bring us down as well... Bro, they were. Free markets are self regulating. Monopolies are born from market interference. Read up on monetary theory, and market regulation. You forget, the people that made the laws had muitlibillion dollar corporations in mind. monopolies will always develop from the basis of self-interest with today's capabilities. however, there are those in other industries that may use their capital to step in if desired. Just look at Apple in comparson to Microsoft. They have slowly whittled into Microsoft's share and they don't even sell their OS separately! You have to buy an overpriced computer just to get it. If Apple sold OSX on it's own, Microsoft would shortly be looking at a far smaller share of the marketplace. Monopolies will develop but eventually, there are those that will develop a new technology to do it better and dig into the stake the monopoly has on the market. It's very difficult to do but it can be done and will eventually. |
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AndreAV, I have no doubt you will have funds in the future. I was just curious if it was a bad luck or wise strike of providence that had left someone else without such. huh? lol did I miss a post somewhere or something or is all this law and econ homework getting to my head? |
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the laws werein place perhapse but not enforced. Why weren't the laws enforced? |
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We have allways had a mixed economy in this country, since the great depression anyhow we get into trouble when one class (the rich) manage to rob the wealth of the middle class. If we didnt have social saftey nets in place we would have a revelution in this country and the poor would be busting down the gates of gated communities and raiding their refrigerators roasting their steaks with the wood broken from the rose wood staircases.
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