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Topic: Ok Im tired of the cut and paste jobs here
RenoirGarland's photo
Sun 02/08/09 08:48 PM
Edited by RenoirGarland on Sun 02/08/09 08:55 PM
The major reason for giving a spouse equal social security benefits for rearing good children is this. I live in a community that many of the women were stay at home mothers. These women can only claim a percentage of their husbands social security. Now these women are all over 60. True some of their husbands did leave extra benefits upon death. But for many women their hard earned days as a mother was twice as hard as any job. Maybe even 3 or 4 times harder than being employed.

They live on tight earnings from social security. Some die in the winter or summers here because the lack of funds. Reverse mortgage is a joke and really should be outlawed.

Right now if a spouse does die a person can expect to lose about $700.00 per month in income from SS. A Married couple only makes about $24,000.00 from SS.

Remember this is the SAME social Security GOV program that pays only $255.00 for a death benefit. What can you get for $255.00? The flowers for the top of a casket.

But for these people who where promised to be taken care of by our government has turned into a poverty ridden problem. We have a larger older population. I'd rather give them the money to stimulate an economy. MANY of them grew up in a depression or wartime state. The majority of those that I see spend wisely. They don't waste.

Personally, I'd rather kick all the twits out of congress and put in our geriatric low income population. You'd see less spending on the hill.

Look at the stimulus packages now. They are talking about colleges getting bailout money so people can continue education. Many times I've seen grandma or grandpa go, "Here, I have a few extra bucks for your education."

The elderly know where the best investments are. Give them the money!!!


BTW...

GREAT Input. I like all the criticism and additions.

AndrewAV's photo
Sun 02/08/09 08:55 PM

The major reason for giving a spouse equal social security benefits for rearing good children is this. I live in a community that many of the women were stay at home mothers. These women can only claim a percentage of their husbands social security. Now these women are all over 60. True some of their husbands did leave extra benefits upon death. But for many women their hard earned days as a mother was twice as hard as any job. Maybe even 3 or 4 times harder than being employed.

They live on tight earnings from social security. Some die in the winter or summers here because the lack of funds. Reverse mortgage is a joke and really should be outlawed.

Right now if a spouse does die a person can expect to lose about $700.00 per month in income from SS. A Married couple only makes about $24,000.00 from SS.

Remember this is the SAME social Security GOV program that pays only $255.00 for a death benefit. What can you get for $255.00? The flowers for the top of a casket.

But for these people who where promised to be taken care of by our government has turned into a poverty ridden problem. We have a larger older population. I'd rather give them the money to stimulate an economy. MANY of them grew up in a depression or wartime state. The majority of those that I see spend wisely. They don't waste.

Personally, I'd rather kick all the twits out of congress and put in our geriatric low income population. You'd see less spending on the hill.

Look at the stimulus packages now. They are talking about colleges getting bailout money so people can continue education. Many times I've seen grandma or grandpa go, "Here, I have a few extra bucks for your education."

The elderly know where the best investments are. Give them the money!!!


But this is what retirement investing is for. I shouldn't have to bear the burden of taking care of all the elderly by paying into a program for another 40 years that will be bankrupt long before then.

Winx's photo
Mon 02/09/09 08:48 AM


The major reason for giving a spouse equal social security benefits for rearing good children is this. I live in a community that many of the women were stay at home mothers. These women can only claim a percentage of their husbands social security. Now these women are all over 60. True some of their husbands did leave extra benefits upon death. But for many women their hard earned days as a mother was twice as hard as any job. Maybe even 3 or 4 times harder than being employed.

They live on tight earnings from social security. Some die in the winter or summers here because the lack of funds. Reverse mortgage is a joke and really should be outlawed.

Right now if a spouse does die a person can expect to lose about $700.00 per month in income from SS. A Married couple only makes about $24,000.00 from SS.

Remember this is the SAME social Security GOV program that pays only $255.00 for a death benefit. What can you get for $255.00? The flowers for the top of a casket.

But for these people who where promised to be taken care of by our government has turned into a poverty ridden problem. We have a larger older population. I'd rather give them the money to stimulate an economy. MANY of them grew up in a depression or wartime state. The majority of those that I see spend wisely. They don't waste.

Personally, I'd rather kick all the twits out of congress and put in our geriatric low income population. You'd see less spending on the hill.

Look at the stimulus packages now. They are talking about colleges getting bailout money so people can continue education. Many times I've seen grandma or grandpa go, "Here, I have a few extra bucks for your education."

The elderly know where the best investments are. Give them the money!!!


But this is what retirement investing is for. I shouldn't have to bear the burden of taking care of all the elderly by paying into a program for another 40 years that will be bankrupt long before then.


They've paid for you.

AndrewAV's photo
Mon 02/09/09 06:34 PM
Edited by AndrewAV on Mon 02/09/09 06:35 PM



The major reason for giving a spouse equal social security benefits for rearing good children is this. I live in a community that many of the women were stay at home mothers. These women can only claim a percentage of their husbands social security. Now these women are all over 60. True some of their husbands did leave extra benefits upon death. But for many women their hard earned days as a mother was twice as hard as any job. Maybe even 3 or 4 times harder than being employed.

They live on tight earnings from social security. Some die in the winter or summers here because the lack of funds. Reverse mortgage is a joke and really should be outlawed.

Right now if a spouse does die a person can expect to lose about $700.00 per month in income from SS. A Married couple only makes about $24,000.00 from SS.

Remember this is the SAME social Security GOV program that pays only $255.00 for a death benefit. What can you get for $255.00? The flowers for the top of a casket.

But for these people who where promised to be taken care of by our government has turned into a poverty ridden problem. We have a larger older population. I'd rather give them the money to stimulate an economy. MANY of them grew up in a depression or wartime state. The majority of those that I see spend wisely. They don't waste.

Personally, I'd rather kick all the twits out of congress and put in our geriatric low income population. You'd see less spending on the hill.

Look at the stimulus packages now. They are talking about colleges getting bailout money so people can continue education. Many times I've seen grandma or grandpa go, "Here, I have a few extra bucks for your education."

The elderly know where the best investments are. Give them the money!!!


But this is what retirement investing is for. I shouldn't have to bear the burden of taking care of all the elderly by paying into a program for another 40 years that will be bankrupt long before then.


They've paid for you.


And those before them paid for them. And, if my parents require (though I know they never will) I would help them as well. The difference is that while they paid into social security for their elders, Social Security is still there for them. The habit the government has of robbing from SS in order to pay for other programs means that it will not be there when I retire.

That is the difference: they put money into a program that helps them. I put money into a program that will not help me.

nogames39's photo
Mon 02/09/09 06:50 PM

The major reason for giving a spouse equal social security benefits for rearing good children is this. I live in a community that many of the women were stay at home mothers. These women can only claim a percentage of their husbands social security. Now these women are all over 60. True some of their husbands did leave extra benefits upon death. But for many women their hard earned days as a mother was twice as hard as any job. Maybe even 3 or 4 times harder than being employed.

They live on tight earnings from social security. Some die in the winter or summers here because the lack of funds. Reverse mortgage is a joke and really should be outlawed.

Right now if a spouse does die a person can expect to lose about $700.00 per month in income from SS. A Married couple only makes about $24,000.00 from SS.

Remember this is the SAME social Security GOV program that pays only $255.00 for a death benefit. What can you get for $255.00? The flowers for the top of a casket.

But for these people who where promised to be taken care of by our government has turned into a poverty ridden problem. We have a larger older population. I'd rather give them the money to stimulate an economy. MANY of them grew up in a depression or wartime state. The majority of those that I see spend wisely. They don't waste.

Personally, I'd rather kick all the twits out of congress and put in our geriatric low income population. You'd see less spending on the hill.

Look at the stimulus packages now. They are talking about colleges getting bailout money so people can continue education. Many times I've seen grandma or grandpa go, "Here, I have a few extra bucks for your education."

The elderly know where the best investments are. Give them the money!!!


BTW...

GREAT Input. I like all the criticism and additions.


This is a very simple situation, that doesn't require any government program. It seems to me, that if the women's job was so hard (to which I do no object as I know nothing of it), then shouldn't it be their husbands who supposed to secure a good retirement for their hard working spouses?

These husbands couldn't give less sh!t about their women, now we all supposed to pay?

Where are their savings? Where are their investments?

AndrewAV's photo
Tue 02/10/09 06:10 PM


The major reason for giving a spouse equal social security benefits for rearing good children is this. I live in a community that many of the women were stay at home mothers. These women can only claim a percentage of their husbands social security. Now these women are all over 60. True some of their husbands did leave extra benefits upon death. But for many women their hard earned days as a mother was twice as hard as any job. Maybe even 3 or 4 times harder than being employed.

They live on tight earnings from social security. Some die in the winter or summers here because the lack of funds. Reverse mortgage is a joke and really should be outlawed.

Right now if a spouse does die a person can expect to lose about $700.00 per month in income from SS. A Married couple only makes about $24,000.00 from SS.

Remember this is the SAME social Security GOV program that pays only $255.00 for a death benefit. What can you get for $255.00? The flowers for the top of a casket.

But for these people who where promised to be taken care of by our government has turned into a poverty ridden problem. We have a larger older population. I'd rather give them the money to stimulate an economy. MANY of them grew up in a depression or wartime state. The majority of those that I see spend wisely. They don't waste.

Personally, I'd rather kick all the twits out of congress and put in our geriatric low income population. You'd see less spending on the hill.

Look at the stimulus packages now. They are talking about colleges getting bailout money so people can continue education. Many times I've seen grandma or grandpa go, "Here, I have a few extra bucks for your education."

The elderly know where the best investments are. Give them the money!!!


BTW...

GREAT Input. I like all the criticism and additions.


This is a very simple situation, that doesn't require any government program. It seems to me, that if the women's job was so hard (to which I do no object as I know nothing of it), then shouldn't it be their husbands who supposed to secure a good retirement for their hard working spouses?

These husbands couldn't give less sh!t about their women, now we all supposed to pay?

Where are their savings? Where are their investments?


see my post above lol.

I shouldn't have to pay for someone else's life. I put away for retirement. i'm going to live like a fat cat by the time I'm done hopefully. Just because someone else is irresponsible is not a reason to help them.

Winx's photo
Tue 02/10/09 08:14 PM


The major reason for giving a spouse equal social security benefits for rearing good children is this. I live in a community that many of the women were stay at home mothers. These women can only claim a percentage of their husbands social security. Now these women are all over 60. True some of their husbands did leave extra benefits upon death. But for many women their hard earned days as a mother was twice as hard as any job. Maybe even 3 or 4 times harder than being employed.

They live on tight earnings from social security. Some die in the winter or summers here because the lack of funds. Reverse mortgage is a joke and really should be outlawed.

Right now if a spouse does die a person can expect to lose about $700.00 per month in income from SS. A Married couple only makes about $24,000.00 from SS.

Remember this is the SAME social Security GOV program that pays only $255.00 for a death benefit. What can you get for $255.00? The flowers for the top of a casket.

But for these people who where promised to be taken care of by our government has turned into a poverty ridden problem. We have a larger older population. I'd rather give them the money to stimulate an economy. MANY of them grew up in a depression or wartime state. The majority of those that I see spend wisely. They don't waste.

Personally, I'd rather kick all the twits out of congress and put in our geriatric low income population. You'd see less spending on the hill.

Look at the stimulus packages now. They are talking about colleges getting bailout money so people can continue education. Many times I've seen grandma or grandpa go, "Here, I have a few extra bucks for your education."

The elderly know where the best investments are. Give them the money!!!


BTW...

GREAT Input. I like all the criticism and additions.


This is a very simple situation, that doesn't require any government program. It seems to me, that if the women's job was so hard (to which I do no object as I know nothing of it), then shouldn't it be their husbands who supposed to secure a good retirement for their hard working spouses?

These husbands couldn't give less sh!t about their women, now we all supposed to pay?

Where are their savings? Where are their investments?


I don't think that if the husbands didn't secure a good retirement for their wives that means that they didn't give a ****. Many people are living on survival mode and aren't able to set aside monies for retirement. Not all jobs offer retirement plans either. My Dad wasn't able to do that for my mom but when he dies she'll be taken care with his life insurance.

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Wed 02/11/09 07:22 PM


ok so what are some other ideas???? Buy from your own country.....grow your own huh food.....live off the land???



Suicide?


My vote. sick

s1owhand's photo
Wed 02/11/09 07:32 PM
Aiiiiieeeeee CAN'T TAKE IT

Pa. judges accused of jailing kids for cash

By MICHAEL RUBINKAM and MARYCLAIRE DALE, Associated Press Writers Michael Rubinkam And Maryclaire Dale, Associated Press Writers – Wed Feb 11, 6:16 pm ET
Kurt Kruger, who spent three days in juvenile detention and another four months AP – Kurt Kruger, who spent three days in juvenile detention and another four months at a youth wilderness …

* Judges accused of taking payoffs to jail kids

WILKES-BARRE, Pa. – For years, the juvenile court system in Wilkes-Barre operated like a conveyor belt: Youngsters were brought before judges without a lawyer, given hearings that lasted only a minute or two, and then sent off to juvenile prison for months for minor offenses.

The explanation, prosecutors say, was corruption on the bench.

In one of the most shocking cases of courtroom graft on record, two Pennsylvania judges have been charged with taking millions of dollars in kickbacks to send teenagers to two privately run youth detention centers.

"I've never encountered, and I don't think that we will in our lifetimes, a case where literally thousands of kids' lives were just tossed aside in order for a couple of judges to make some money," said Marsha Levick, an attorney with the Philadelphia-based Juvenile Law Center, which is representing hundreds of youths sentenced in Wilkes-Barre.

Prosecutors say Luzerne County Judges Mark Ciavarella and Michael Conahan took $2.6 million in payoffs to put juvenile offenders in lockups run by PA Child Care LLC and a sister company, Western PA Child Care LLC. The judges were charged on Jan. 26 and removed from the bench by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court shortly afterward.

No company officials have been charged, but the investigation is still going on.

The high court, meanwhile, is looking into whether hundreds or even thousands of sentences should be overturned and the juveniles' records expunged.

Among the offenders were teenagers who were locked up for months for stealing loose change from cars, writing a prank note and possessing drug paraphernalia. Many had never been in trouble before. Some were imprisoned even after probation officers recommended against it.

Many appeared without lawyers, despite the U.S. Supreme Court's landmark 1967 ruling that children have a constitutional right to counsel.

The judges are scheduled to plead guilty to fraud Thursday in federal court. Their plea agreements call for sentences of more than seven years behind bars.

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Ahhhhh that's better. smokin

Fanta46's photo
Wed 02/11/09 08:45 PM
I luv the Tux slow..:thumbsup:

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Thu 02/12/09 12:52 PM

Great idea buying American made products. Put me down for a Hummer, bank derivatives, California real estate and one of Jimmy Swaggert's bibles.
Hahaha love the humor . . . it was humor right?

Jess642's photo
Thu 02/12/09 12:55 PM
If Australia, a population of 30 million, cn find over $ 51 million dollars to donate to others....

we will be fine....


put the heart back into a country, and no matter what, it will succeed.

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