Topic: Read your Bible!
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Fri 02/06/09 02:22 PM
Please read these books first:

"The Christ Conspiracy, the greatest story ever sold."

"The Book your Church does not want you to read."


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Fri 02/06/09 02:33 PM


Directed at OP


How do we know you have read the bible? I asked you about some of those misogynist passages and you acted confused and said you "would need to place me in contact with a female Christian." huh


I was not confused, I saw that you was reaching out for help and i thought a woman would be of more help. Ask again i will try to help you.

EPHESIANS 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.




did you even read her questions?
If you did, and didn't answer them then, then your response now is just a load of BS.
And if you didn't read, then your response now is just the same.
You can't answer serious questions with a lot of bible verses, there isn't anything in them we didn't read already.

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Fri 02/06/09 02:42 PM


Directed at OP


How do we know you have read the bible? I asked you about some of those misogynist passages and you acted confused and said you "would need to place me in contact with a female Christian." huh


I was not confused, I saw that you was reaching out for help and i thought a woman would be of more help. Ask again i will try to help you.

EPHESIANS 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.




I wasn’t asking you for "help" I rattled off a few passages from the bible that were directed at women and quite hateful and you insisted that you weren’t sure about that but that you could "put me in touch with a female Christian."

My question is how can we know that you have read the bible at all when you didnt recognize those passages?

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Fri 02/06/09 07:06 PM



Directed at OP


How do we know you have read the bible? I asked you about some of those misogynist passages and you acted confused and said you "would need to place me in contact with a female Christian." huh


I was not confused, I saw that you was reaching out for help and i thought a woman would be of more help. Ask again i will try to help you.

EPHESIANS 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.




I wasn’t asking you for "help" I rattled off a few passages from the bible that were directed at women and quite hateful and you insisted that you weren’t sure about that but that you could "put me in touch with a female Christian."

My question is how can we know that you have read the bible at all when you didnt recognize those passages?


If you want answers to something just ask I read the bible what do want to know. You took the verses out of context. People in the bible did some evil things, God didn’t. You have to be saved to understand the full meaning of it until then all you will understand for sure is that Jesus Christ died to save you from your sin.

MATTHEW 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

MARK 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

LUKE 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

JOHN 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

ACTS 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Do you believe that Jesus died for your sin?


If you believe ask for salvation. its as easy as having faith that died and was buried and rose three days later.

Here is a simple prayer you can pray to God. Saying this prayer is a way to declare to God that you are relying on Jesus Christ for your salvation. The words themselves will not save you. Only faith in Jesus Christ can provide salvation! “God I know that I have sinned against you and am deserving of punishment. Jesus Christ took the punishment that I deserve, so that through faith in Him I could be forgiven. With your help, I place my trust in you for salvation, and I ask that you will forgive me of my sins. I thank you for your wonderful grace and forgiveness.

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Fri 02/06/09 07:28 PM




Directed at OP


How do we know you have read the bible? I asked you about some of those misogynist passages and you acted confused and said you "would need to place me in contact with a female Christian." huh


I was not confused, I saw that you was reaching out for help and i thought a woman would be of more help. Ask again i will try to help you.

EPHESIANS 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.




I wasn’t asking you for "help" I rattled off a few passages from the bible that were directed at women and quite hateful and you insisted that you weren’t sure about that but that you could "put me in touch with a female Christian."

My question is how can we know that you have read the bible at all when you didnt recognize those passages?


If you want answers to something just ask I read the bible what do want to know. You took the verses out of context. People in the bible did some evil things, God didn’t. You have to be saved to understand the full meaning of it until then all you will understand for sure is that Jesus Christ died to save you from your sin.

MATTHEW 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

MARK 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

LUKE 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

JOHN 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

ACTS 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Do you believe that Jesus died for your sin?


If you believe ask for salvation. its as easy as having faith that died and was buried and rose three days later.

Here is a simple prayer you can pray to God. Saying this prayer is a way to declare to God that you are relying on Jesus Christ for your salvation. The words themselves will not save you. Only faith in Jesus Christ can provide salvation! “God I know that I have sinned against you and am deserving of punishment. Jesus Christ took the punishment that I deserve, so that through faith in Him I could be forgiven. With your help, I place my trust in you for salvation, and I ask that you will forgive me of my sins. I thank you for your wonderful grace and forgiveness.




Yes what is your view of the man of sin?

He is called the Lawless one.

What is Lawless? Blessings...Miles

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Fri 02/06/09 08:47 PM





Directed at OP


How do we know you have read the bible? I asked you about some of those misogynist passages and you acted confused and said you "would need to place me in contact with a female Christian." huh


I was not confused, I saw that you was reaching out for help and i thought a woman would be of more help. Ask again i will try to help you.

EPHESIANS 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.




I wasn’t asking you for "help" I rattled off a few passages from the bible that were directed at women and quite hateful and you insisted that you weren’t sure about that but that you could "put me in touch with a female Christian."

My question is how can we know that you have read the bible at all when you didnt recognize those passages?


If you want answers to something just ask I read the bible what do want to know. You took the verses out of context. People in the bible did some evil things, God didn’t. You have to be saved to understand the full meaning of it until then all you will understand for sure is that Jesus Christ died to save you from your sin.

MATTHEW 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

MARK 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

LUKE 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

JOHN 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

ACTS 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Do you believe that Jesus died for your sin?


If you believe ask for salvation. its as easy as having faith that died and was buried and rose three days later.

Here is a simple prayer you can pray to God. Saying this prayer is a way to declare to God that you are relying on Jesus Christ for your salvation. The words themselves will not save you. Only faith in Jesus Christ can provide salvation! “God I know that I have sinned against you and am deserving of punishment. Jesus Christ took the punishment that I deserve, so that through faith in Him I could be forgiven. With your help, I place my trust in you for salvation, and I ask that you will forgive me of my sins. I thank you for your wonderful grace and forgiveness.




Yes what is your view of the man of sin?

He is called the Lawless one.

What is Lawless? Blessings...Miles


There is the law and there is Gods law. The lawless one is not obeying God’s law.

1TIMOTHY 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

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Fri 02/06/09 09:04 PM






Directed at OP


How do we know you have read the bible? I asked you about some of those misogynist passages and you acted confused and said you "would need to place me in contact with a female Christian." huh


I was not confused, I saw that you was reaching out for help and i thought a woman would be of more help. Ask again i will try to help you.

EPHESIANS 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.




I wasn’t asking you for "help" I rattled off a few passages from the bible that were directed at women and quite hateful and you insisted that you weren’t sure about that but that you could "put me in touch with a female Christian."

My question is how can we know that you have read the bible at all when you didnt recognize those passages?


If you want answers to something just ask I read the bible what do want to know. You took the verses out of context. People in the bible did some evil things, God didn’t. You have to be saved to understand the full meaning of it until then all you will understand for sure is that Jesus Christ died to save you from your sin.

MATTHEW 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

MARK 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

LUKE 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

JOHN 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

ACTS 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Do you believe that Jesus died for your sin?


If you believe ask for salvation. its as easy as having faith that died and was buried and rose three days later.

Here is a simple prayer you can pray to God. Saying this prayer is a way to declare to God that you are relying on Jesus Christ for your salvation. The words themselves will not save you. Only faith in Jesus Christ can provide salvation! “God I know that I have sinned against you and am deserving of punishment. Jesus Christ took the punishment that I deserve, so that through faith in Him I could be forgiven. With your help, I place my trust in you for salvation, and I ask that you will forgive me of my sins. I thank you for your wonderful grace and forgiveness.




Yes what is your view of the man of sin?

He is called the Lawless one.

What is Lawless? Blessings...Miles


There is the law and there is Gods law. The lawless one is not obeying God’s law.

1TIMOTHY 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,



Thier are a lot of thought about what that law is.

What do you see this law as being as he also comes as a angel of light and his ministers are also transformered in to ministers of light.

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Fri 02/06/09 09:10 PM


One of the lost books of the bible...found!

2nd Hezekiah Chapter 4 verses 4-7
(4)“...and thou shalt not taketh my words literally, but shall knoweth that I speak of enlightenment from a gnostic sense. Verily, it pains me to see my children rammeth their version of the truth down my other children’s throats. (5) I do hopeth, even now, that the scribes who are coping down my words (as spoken through the mad, lice-ridden prophet that I’ve chosen for this week’s mouthpiece) will removeth only the swear words and not change my message too much. Thou knowest, as do all who have played telephone, that the original message often get’s lost in translation. (6) Thou must wonder why I have chosen men to write down my message. I am thy Creator, yes, and I am all-powerful. However......I seem to have misplaced my pen. (7) So......while I am searching for it all I ask you, my children, is to not argue over the different translations of my words, persecute or try to “save” others, or do something as stupid as go to war in my name. Also, I’m not God the Father. I’m God the Mother. Hopefully I can find my pen soon before these scribes mess everything up and try to make this a patriarchal, narrow-minded religion. Love, Mother.
P.S. Stop searching for Jesus. I already found him. He was behind the couch the whole time.”



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Some times jesus spoke in parables.

Are you Saved.

HEBREWS 2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him ;




ddrgkd, that was a tongue-in-cheek post I made. Have YOU read the bible? There is no book titled Hezekiah in the bible. Hezekiah was a king mentioned (I think) in Kings, Chronicles & Isaiah.

Good for you that you have a strong faith and are happy with where you're at, but Christianity is NOT for everyone. No matter how many times you ask someone to read the bible, or ask them if they're saved, you're not going to change their mind. There are those of us here who have read the bible front to back and we're still not going to agree with you. If you want to argue using scripture verses, I'll be happy to list verses that directly contradict each other.
I was raised in a christian household. I was taught that Jesus was the only way into Heaven. Whenever I had a question about something contradictory in the bible, the question went unanswered. The only time I truly felt Saved was when I took the christian blindfold off and left the church altogether.


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Sat 02/07/09 01:13 AM

ddrgkd, that was a tongue-in-cheek post I made. Have YOU read the bible? There is no book titled Hezekiah in the bible. Hezekiah was a king mentioned (I think) in Kings, Chronicles & Isaiah.

Good for you that you have a strong faith and are happy with where you're at, but Christianity is NOT for everyone. No matter how many times you ask someone to read the bible, or ask them if they're saved, you're not going to change their mind. There are those of us here who have read the bible front to back and we're still not going to agree with you. If you want to argue using scripture verses, I'll be happy to list verses that directly contradict each other.
I was raised in a christian household. I was taught that Jesus was the only way into Heaven. Whenever I had a question about something contradictory in the bible, the question went unanswered. The only time I truly felt Saved was when I took the christian blindfold off and left the church altogether.


ddrgkd is a perfect example of how brainwashing works.

Notice that all he ever posts are the brainwashing verses of the Bible that are repeated by the biblical authors ad nausea.

It's clear that the culture that wrote the Bible was desperate to brainwash people into believing that they need to be 'saved' and that only their religion can provide that service.

He can't debate the book in general because he has no clue what the stories are actually about.

I believe that you are right to ask him if he ever actually read the Bible himself because based on his posts it's pretty obvious that he hasn't. He just roots through the book quoting the demagogurey and never gives any reasons or explanations as to why any of it makes any sense.

The idea that Jesus was the son of the God of Abraham is ludicous and that becomes crystal clear from actually reading the Bible!

It is a fact that the vast majority of Christians have no clue what the Bible actually says.

In fact, historically speaking, the men who have studied the Bible the most have rejected the religion altogether.

Of course there are those who made religion their careers, but even if we look at the professional clergy we see that they all disagree on what the Mediterranean myth is all about.

Some of them are Jews, some are Muslims, some are Catholics, and the most obnoxious of all have protested to become protestants of a myriad of sects that all disagree with each other.

It's strikingly obvious that men who actually read the Bible either denounce it altogether or become fiercly divided about what it actually says.

We need to keep in mind also that the the Bible, the Torah, and the Koran are all the same myth twisted in different ways.

Obviously if the New Testament is correct then God turned his back on two cultures that wanted to worship him - the Jews and the Muslins.

It would be ludicious to claim that the Jews and Muslims turned against God because they both believe that they are worshiping him!

This alone should be proof positive that all four of these major religions, Judaism, Catholicism, Islam, and Protestantism are all obviously wrong.

It makes no sense to believe in a God that purposefully divides people via confusion.

These religions are clearly ungodly, not a one of them can be true because utimately they are all the same train-wrecked religion.

Just look at Christianity!

It started out with as supposedly unchanging God that was concerned solely with good works and good morals. But now it has become all about a God who has changed his mind about how he wants people to behave, and he has also changed his mind about the criteria to earn his love.

Clearly that religion is bogus. It simply can't be true. There's no question about it. A person doesn't even need to go outside of the myth to recognize that it's a farce.

If there were any truth to the religion at all, it would need to lie in Judaism or Islam, clearly Catholicism and Protestantism are out of the picture because they veered too far from the original premises of the religion.

So if there is any merit in the religion at all it necessarily must be in the pre-Jesus versions of it.

Jesus would not be a 'savior' at all, but a divider. And for God not to recognize this would imply that God is utterly stupid. Clearly we can't have God being stupid, so the religion necessarily must be rejected based on the fact that it's absurd.

That the only conclusion that can be had if you truly read the Bible.

Jesus cannot possibly have been the son of the God of Abraham. The Old Testament simply doesn't leave that option open.

Read the Bible and you'll see that this has to be the case. Jesus didn't even agree with the God of Abraham and he actually blasphemed against the God of Abraham by denouncing the ways of the Old Testament. The Jews would have been honoring the God of Abraham by murdering Jesus.

There's no way that Jesus could have been the son of the God of Abraham.

It just isn't feasible. The Old Testament doesn't permit it.

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Sat 02/07/09 03:48 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Sat 02/07/09 03:49 AM
No, the passages I showed you were all hateful in regards to women and ALL commanded by god. You told me you were not familiar with them. I asked you if you have read the bible. Then you insisted that it would be best if I "spoke with a female Christian." I took them directly from the bible. If you feel anything was out of context, then prove it. Scroll up; I even added a few more.

Shouldnt you as a male be aware of what you worship?

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Sat 02/07/09 08:01 AM


ddrgkd, that was a tongue-in-cheek post I made. Have YOU read the bible? There is no book titled Hezekiah in the bible. Hezekiah was a king mentioned (I think) in Kings, Chronicles & Isaiah.

Good for you that you have a strong faith and are happy with where you're at, but Christianity is NOT for everyone. No matter how many times you ask someone to read the bible, or ask them if they're saved, you're not going to change their mind. There are those of us here who have read the bible front to back and we're still not going to agree with you. If you want to argue using scripture verses, I'll be happy to list verses that directly contradict each other.
I was raised in a christian household. I was taught that Jesus was the only way into Heaven. Whenever I had a question about something contradictory in the bible, the question went unanswered. The only time I truly felt Saved was when I took the christian blindfold off and left the church altogether.


ddrgkd is a perfect example of how brainwashing works.

Notice that all he ever posts are the brainwashing verses of the Bible that are repeated by the biblical authors ad nausea.

It's clear that the culture that wrote the Bible was desperate to brainwash people into believing that they need to be 'saved' and that only their religion can provide that service.

He can't debate the book in general because he has no clue what the stories are actually about.

I believe that you are right to ask him if he ever actually read the Bible himself because based on his posts it's pretty obvious that he hasn't. He just roots through the book quoting the demagogurey and never gives any reasons or explanations as to why any of it makes any sense.

The idea that Jesus was the son of the God of Abraham is ludicous and that becomes crystal clear from actually reading the Bible!

It is a fact that the vast majority of Christians have no clue what the Bible actually says.

In fact, historically speaking, the men who have studied the Bible the most have rejected the religion altogether.

Of course there are those who made religion their careers, but even if we look at the professional clergy we see that they all disagree on what the Mediterranean myth is all about.

Some of them are Jews, some are Muslims, some are Catholics, and the most obnoxious of all have protested to become protestants of a myriad of sects that all disagree with each other.

It's strikingly obvious that men who actually read the Bible either denounce it altogether or become fiercly divided about what it actually says.

We need to keep in mind also that the the Bible, the Torah, and the Koran are all the same myth twisted in different ways.

Obviously if the New Testament is correct then God turned his back on two cultures that wanted to worship him - the Jews and the Muslins.

It would be ludicious to claim that the Jews and Muslims turned against God because they both believe that they are worshiping him!

This alone should be proof positive that all four of these major religions, Judaism, Catholicism, Islam, and Protestantism are all obviously wrong.

It makes no sense to believe in a God that purposefully divides people via confusion.

These religions are clearly ungodly, not a one of them can be true because utimately they are all the same train-wrecked religion.

Just look at Christianity!

It started out with as supposedly unchanging God that was concerned solely with good works and good morals. But now it has become all about a God who has changed his mind about how he wants people to behave, and he has also changed his mind about the criteria to earn his love.

Clearly that religion is bogus. It simply can't be true. There's no question about it. A person doesn't even need to go outside of the myth to recognize that it's a farce.

If there were any truth to the religion at all, it would need to lie in Judaism or Islam, clearly Catholicism and Protestantism are out of the picture because they veered too far from the original premises of the religion.

So if there is any merit in the religion at all it necessarily must be in the pre-Jesus versions of it.

Jesus would not be a 'savior' at all, but a divider. And for God not to recognize this would imply that God is utterly stupid. Clearly we can't have God being stupid, so the religion necessarily must be rejected based on the fact that it's absurd.

That the only conclusion that can be had if you truly read the Bible.

Jesus cannot possibly have been the son of the God of Abraham. The Old Testament simply doesn't leave that option open.

Read the Bible and you'll see that this has to be the case. Jesus didn't even agree with the God of Abraham and he actually blasphemed against the God of Abraham by denouncing the ways of the Old Testament. The Jews would have been honoring the God of Abraham by murdering Jesus.

There's no way that Jesus could have been the son of the God of Abraham.

It just isn't feasible. The Old Testament doesn't permit it.


Thank you, Christianity is for everyone. I know I’m repeating myself but are you saved. That could be why you do not fully understand. The first thing I want is for people to ask Jesus Christ for salvation if they are not saved. You’ve read the bible you know why I’m asking for everyone to accept Christ. Second I want people to go to a Christian church so they can grow.

MATTHEW 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

MARK 3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

LUKE 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

JOHN 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Please don’t deny Christ.

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Sat 02/07/09 08:08 AM

No, the passages I showed you were all hateful in regards to women and ALL commanded by god. You told me you were not familiar with them. I asked you if you have read the bible. Then you insisted that it would be best if I "spoke with a female Christian." I took them directly from the bible. If you feel anything was out of context, then prove it. Scroll up; I even added a few more.

Shouldnt you as a male be aware of what you worship?


Classic case of someone telling other people to read a book that they never actually read themselves. :angry:

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Sat 02/07/09 08:23 AM

Please read these books first:

"The Christ Conspiracy, the greatest story ever sold."

"The Book your Church does not want you to read."




I wouldnt mind hearing one of the arguments in that book.

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Sat 02/07/09 08:36 AM
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and have knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

Love never fails.

But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

I CORINTHIANS 13

Now, ddrgkd, do you see where you are lacking?

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Sat 02/07/09 08:39 AM

Please don’t deny Christ.


That's be pretty hard to do since you've never posted a single solitary word spoken by Jesus.

All you keep posting are the words of some guys named Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. In fact, many scholars believe that these are just various forms of a single rumor with much demagogury added.

It would be impossible to deny Jesus until you can come up with something that was actually written by the man.

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Sat 02/07/09 08:57 AM







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How do we know you have read the bible? I asked you about some of those misogynist passages and you acted confused and said you "would need to place me in contact with a female Christian." huh


I was not confused, I saw that you was reaching out for help and i thought a woman would be of more help. Ask again i will try to help you.

EPHESIANS 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.




I wasn’t asking you for "help" I rattled off a few passages from the bible that were directed at women and quite hateful and you insisted that you weren’t sure about that but that you could "put me in touch with a female Christian."

My question is how can we know that you have read the bible at all when you didnt recognize those passages?


If you want answers to something just ask I read the bible what do want to know. You took the verses out of context. People in the bible did some evil things, God didn’t. You have to be saved to understand the full meaning of it until then all you will understand for sure is that Jesus Christ died to save you from your sin.

MATTHEW 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

MARK 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

LUKE 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

JOHN 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

ACTS 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Do you believe that Jesus died for your sin?


If you believe ask for salvation. its as easy as having faith that died and was buried and rose three days later.

Here is a simple prayer you can pray to God. Saying this prayer is a way to declare to God that you are relying on Jesus Christ for your salvation. The words themselves will not save you. Only faith in Jesus Christ can provide salvation! “God I know that I have sinned against you and am deserving of punishment. Jesus Christ took the punishment that I deserve, so that through faith in Him I could be forgiven. With your help, I place my trust in you for salvation, and I ask that you will forgive me of my sins. I thank you for your wonderful grace and forgiveness.




Yes what is your view of the man of sin?

He is called the Lawless one.

What is Lawless? Blessings...Miles


There is the law and there is Gods law. The lawless one is not obeying God’s law.

1TIMOTHY 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,



Thier are a lot of thought about what that law is.

What do you see this law as being as he also comes as a angel of light and his ministers are also transformered in to ministers of light.


God’s law is the Ten Commandments and more when Jesus came to earth he told us to love God with all our heart and to love our neighbor like we love ourselves.

DEUTERONOMY 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.

MATTHEW 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. 40 On these two
commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

We need to beware because the devil himself is transformed into an angel of light and his followers.

2CORINTHIANS 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.



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How do we know you have read the bible? I asked you about some of those misogynist passages and you acted confused and said you "would need to place me in contact with a female Christian." huh


I was not confused, I saw that you was reaching out for help and i thought a woman would be of more help. Ask again i will try to help you.

EPHESIANS 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.




I wasn’t asking you for "help" I rattled off a few passages from the bible that were directed at women and quite hateful and you insisted that you weren’t sure about that but that you could "put me in touch with a female Christian."

My question is how can we know that you have read the bible at all when you didnt recognize those passages?


If you want answers to something just ask I read the bible what do want to know. You took the verses out of context. People in the bible did some evil things, God didn’t. You have to be saved to understand the full meaning of it until then all you will understand for sure is that Jesus Christ died to save you from your sin.

MATTHEW 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

MARK 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

LUKE 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

JOHN 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

ACTS 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Do you believe that Jesus died for your sin?


If you believe ask for salvation. its as easy as having faith that died and was buried and rose three days later.

Here is a simple prayer you can pray to God. Saying this prayer is a way to declare to God that you are relying on Jesus Christ for your salvation. The words themselves will not save you. Only faith in Jesus Christ can provide salvation! “God I know that I have sinned against you and am deserving of punishment. Jesus Christ took the punishment that I deserve, so that through faith in Him I could be forgiven. With your help, I place my trust in you for salvation, and I ask that you will forgive me of my sins. I thank you for your wonderful grace and forgiveness.




Yes what is your view of the man of sin?

He is called the Lawless one.

What is Lawless? Blessings...Miles


There is the law and there is Gods law. The lawless one is not obeying God’s law.

1TIMOTHY 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,



Thier are a lot of thought about what that law is.

What do you see this law as being as he also comes as a angel of light and his ministers are also transformered in to ministers of light.


God’s law is the Ten Commandments and more when Jesus came to earth he told us to love God with all our heart and to love our neighbor like we love ourselves.

DEUTERONOMY 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.

MATTHEW 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. 40 On these two
commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

We need to beware because the devil himself is transformed into an angel of light and his followers.

2CORINTHIANS 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.





For all I know you could be Satan, how's that?

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Sat 02/07/09 09:38 AM


Please don’t deny Christ.


That's be pretty hard to do since you've never posted a single solitary word spoken by Jesus.

All you keep posting are the words of some guys named Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. In fact, many scholars believe that these are just various forms of a single rumor with much demagogury added.

It would be impossible to deny Jesus until you can come up with something that was actually written by the man.



The bible is the word of God. I will post some of words that Jesus Christ spoke specifically.

Salvation from sin is what i want for everyone.

MATTHEW 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

MARK 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

LUKE 5:31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician: but they that are sick. 32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

JOHN 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.



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Sat 02/07/09 09:47 AM
If you have read the bible, how come you did not recognize those passages I emailed you?

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Sat 02/07/09 09:52 AM

If you have read the bible, how come you did not recognize those passages I emailed you?


For all I know he could be a robot, randomly post passages of the bible, and the same "are you saved?" BS over and over again.