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ddrgkd, that was a tongue-in-cheek post I made. Have YOU read the bible? There is no book titled Hezekiah in the bible. Hezekiah was a king mentioned (I think) in Kings, Chronicles & Isaiah. Good for you that you have a strong faith and are happy with where you're at, but Christianity is NOT for everyone. No matter how many times you ask someone to read the bible, or ask them if they're saved, you're not going to change their mind. There are those of us here who have read the bible front to back and we're still not going to agree with you. If you want to argue using scripture verses, I'll be happy to list verses that directly contradict each other. I was raised in a christian household. I was taught that Jesus was the only way into Heaven. Whenever I had a question about something contradictory in the bible, the question went unanswered. The only time I truly felt Saved was when I took the christian blindfold off and left the church altogether. ddrgkd is a perfect example of how brainwashing works. Notice that all he ever posts are the brainwashing verses of the Bible that are repeated by the biblical authors ad nausea. It's clear that the culture that wrote the Bible was desperate to brainwash people into believing that they need to be 'saved' and that only their religion can provide that service. He can't debate the book in general because he has no clue what the stories are actually about. I believe that you are right to ask him if he ever actually read the Bible himself because based on his posts it's pretty obvious that he hasn't. He just roots through the book quoting the demagogurey and never gives any reasons or explanations as to why any of it makes any sense. The idea that Jesus was the son of the God of Abraham is ludicous and that becomes crystal clear from actually reading the Bible! It is a fact that the vast majority of Christians have no clue what the Bible actually says. In fact, historically speaking, the men who have studied the Bible the most have rejected the religion altogether. Of course there are those who made religion their careers, but even if we look at the professional clergy we see that they all disagree on what the Mediterranean myth is all about. Some of them are Jews, some are Muslims, some are Catholics, and the most obnoxious of all have protested to become protestants of a myriad of sects that all disagree with each other. It's strikingly obvious that men who actually read the Bible either denounce it altogether or become fiercly divided about what it actually says. We need to keep in mind also that the the Bible, the Torah, and the Koran are all the same myth twisted in different ways. Obviously if the New Testament is correct then God turned his back on two cultures that wanted to worship him - the Jews and the Muslins. It would be ludicious to claim that the Jews and Muslims turned against God because they both believe that they are worshiping him! This alone should be proof positive that all four of these major religions, Judaism, Catholicism, Islam, and Protestantism are all obviously wrong. It makes no sense to believe in a God that purposefully divides people via confusion. These religions are clearly ungodly, not a one of them can be true because utimately they are all the same train-wrecked religion. Just look at Christianity! It started out with as supposedly unchanging God that was concerned solely with good works and good morals. But now it has become all about a God who has changed his mind about how he wants people to behave, and he has also changed his mind about the criteria to earn his love. Clearly that religion is bogus. It simply can't be true. There's no question about it. A person doesn't even need to go outside of the myth to recognize that it's a farce. If there were any truth to the religion at all, it would need to lie in Judaism or Islam, clearly Catholicism and Protestantism are out of the picture because they veered too far from the original premises of the religion. So if there is any merit in the religion at all it necessarily must be in the pre-Jesus versions of it. Jesus would not be a 'savior' at all, but a divider. And for God not to recognize this would imply that God is utterly stupid. Clearly we can't have God being stupid, so the religion necessarily must be rejected based on the fact that it's absurd. That the only conclusion that can be had if you truly read the Bible. Jesus cannot possibly have been the son of the God of Abraham. The Old Testament simply doesn't leave that option open. Read the Bible and you'll see that this has to be the case. Jesus didn't even agree with the God of Abraham and he actually blasphemed against the God of Abraham by denouncing the ways of the Old Testament. The Jews would have been honoring the God of Abraham by murdering Jesus. There's no way that Jesus could have been the son of the God of Abraham. It just isn't feasible. The Old Testament doesn't permit it. Thank you, Christianity is for everyone. I know I’m repeating myself but are you saved. That could be why you do not fully understand. The first thing I want is for people to ask Jesus Christ for salvation if they are not saved. You’ve read the bible you know why I’m asking for everyone to accept Christ. Second I want people to go to a Christian church so they can grow. MATTHEW 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. MARK 3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother. LUKE 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand. JOHN 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. Please don’t deny Christ. Please don't deny Christ? Are you kidding me? Please don't deny what's right in front of your eyes. The bible cannot be the word of God. There are as many errors in it as there are words. Here are a couple examples: (Using the NIV version) What did Judas actually do? Matthew 27:5 “So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.” VS Acts 1:18 “With the reward he got for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out.” Has anyone really seen God? John 1:18 “No one has ever seen God, but God the only Son, who is at the Father’s side, has made him known. Exodus 33:20 “But, he said, you cannot see my face, for noone may see me and live.” 1 John 4:12 “No one has ever seen God, but if we love each other, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.” VS Genesis 32:30 “So Jacob called the place Peniel saying, It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.” Exodus 33:11 “The Lord would speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks with his friend. Isaiah 6:1 “In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of his robe filled the temple.” Job 42:5 “My ears have heard of you, but now my eyes have seen you.” If the bible really is the word of God, then why can't God keep his facts straight? Maybe it's....I don't know... because the bible was written by men? Some more food for thought. http://www.bidstrup.com/bible.htm |
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Do you really want to live forever? Sounds like a mad scientist or something to me. Yes i do. JOHN 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. then one has partaken of the cursed cup, and NOT YET LAID DOWN IT'S OWN SELF PRESERVATION, AS JESUS DID??? and LOVE ITSELF more than it's neighbor's??? and LOVE ITSELF more than it's enemeies??? did not jesus LAY DOWN HIS LIFE, AND EVEN HAVING ALL POWER TO CALL TEN THOUSAND ANGELS, being others HUMANS TO RALLY AND FIGHT TO PRESERVE HIMSELF, and DID NOT set himself up as A CULT LEADER AS MANY HAVE??? did not jesus TURN DOWN THE KINGDOM OFFERED TO HIM BY HIS MIND, THE GREAT SATAN THAT CAME TO HIM IN THE DESERT??? SEE into the words, not just read them??? |
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Krimsa
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The created distinction between man and woman should be honored in the church Men are made in the image of God; women in the image of men. Women were created from and for men. 1 Corinthians 11 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. 11:8 For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. 11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. Paul promulgates his teaching about head coverings for women not in order to restrict their participation in prayer and prophecy but rather to enable them to perform these activities with dignity, avoiding distractions for people whose cultural sensibilities were formed by the social conventions of the ancient Mediterranean world. In other words, men could not be trusted while praying in church with women that had their long, gorgeous locks in plain view. This would cause them to become sexually aroused beasties. 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. Anyone who appeals to this passage to silence women or to deny them leadership roles in the church is flagrantly misusing the text... How do you figure that? 1 Corinthians 14:34 As in all the churches of God's holy people, women are to remain quiet in the assemblies, since they have no permission to speak: theirs is a subordinate part. |
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davidben1
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look, was it TRUE WHAT JESUS'S MIND TOLD HIM???
YES!!! was he ADORED BY THE PEOPLE??? COULD HE HAVE MADE HIMSELF AS WORSHIPPED??? could he have gotten others to DO HIS BIDDING, JUST AS HITLER??? so then WHAT IS HUMAN MAN HERE TO LEARN TO "NOT ACCEPT??? worship of self from others, the GREATEST INERT DESIRE THAT DWELL WITHIN??? TO DESIRE TO BE LOVED??? VALIDATION TELLING SELF IT IS "BETTER" THAN OTHERS??? PLEASE MAN, the deception has overcome many, BY WHAT IF THE WHOLE WORLD BOW AT ONE'S FEET, WILL IT MAKE YOU HAPPY??? SO WHAT YOU LIVE FOREVER, AS WHAT THE "HEART" WISH HERE, IS "WHO AND WHAT IT IS"??? |
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The created distinction between man and woman should be honored in the church Men are made in the image of God; women in the image of men. Women were created from and for men. 1 Corinthians 11 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. 11:8 For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. 11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. Paul promulgates his teaching about head coverings for women not in order to restrict their participation in prayer and prophecy but rather to enable them to perform these activities with dignity, avoiding distractions for people whose cultural sensibilities were formed by the social conventions of the ancient Mediterranean world. In other words, men could not be trusted while praying in church with women that had their long, gorgeous locks in plain view. This would cause them to become sexually aroused beasties. 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. Anyone who appeals to this passage to silence women or to deny them leadership roles in the church is flagrantly misusing the text... How do you figure that? 1 Corinthians 14:34 As in all the churches of God's holy people, women are to remain quiet in the assemblies, since they have no permission to speak: theirs is a subordinate part. You are talking Jewish Law old mosiac law K....and after Christ although laws were important it did change things.....You can't change scripture K....to fit what "YOU" believe it says....This is the reason I study it....Maybe instead of always putting your own K twist on it...maybe first you should study it to learn exactly what it means. Now I am not going to fight about woman's rights and us having to fight for them..because that is very true....And even in biblical times it was not always fair or right...it was what it was...And I have had this same conversation with you at least 1 dozen times....so who keeps repeating themselves and would never be happy with the answer. |
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You are talking Jewish Law old mosiac law K This was taken from the NT and is the word of Paul. .... and after Christ although laws were important it did change things Its true that Jesus (at least we think) rejected the OT law however that OT law was the WORD OF Yahweh. ..... You can't change scripture K What have I changed there Deb? Not one word. I found a bible online and I copy and paste. Now I am not going to fight about woman's rights and us having to fight for them..because that is very true....And even in biblical times it was not always fair or right...it was what it was...And I have had this same conversation with you at least 1 dozen times....so who keeps repeating themselves and would never be happy with the answer. I agree with you here Deb and you dont have to take this crap. |
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Milesoftheusa
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ddrgkd, that was a tongue-in-cheek post I made. Have YOU read the bible? There is no book titled Hezekiah in the bible. Hezekiah was a king mentioned (I think) in Kings, Chronicles & Isaiah. Good for you that you have a strong faith and are happy with where you're at, but Christianity is NOT for everyone. No matter how many times you ask someone to read the bible, or ask them if they're saved, you're not going to change their mind. There are those of us here who have read the bible front to back and we're still not going to agree with you. If you want to argue using scripture verses, I'll be happy to list verses that directly contradict each other. I was raised in a christian household. I was taught that Jesus was the only way into Heaven. Whenever I had a question about something contradictory in the bible, the question went unanswered. The only time I truly felt Saved was when I took the christian blindfold off and left the church altogether. ddrgkd is a perfect example of how brainwashing works. Notice that all he ever posts are the brainwashing verses of the Bible that are repeated by the biblical authors ad nausea. It's clear that the culture that wrote the Bible was desperate to brainwash people into believing that they need to be 'saved' and that only their religion can provide that service. He can't debate the book in general because he has no clue what the stories are actually about. I believe that you are right to ask him if he ever actually read the Bible himself because based on his posts it's pretty obvious that he hasn't. He just roots through the book quoting the demagogurey and never gives any reasons or explanations as to why any of it makes any sense. The idea that Jesus was the son of the God of Abraham is ludicous and that becomes crystal clear from actually reading the Bible! It is a fact that the vast majority of Christians have no clue what the Bible actually says. In fact, historically speaking, the men who have studied the Bible the most have rejected the religion altogether. Of course there are those who made religion their careers, but even if we look at the professional clergy we see that they all disagree on what the Mediterranean myth is all about. Some of them are Jews, some are Muslims, some are Catholics, and the most obnoxious of all have protested to become protestants of a myriad of sects that all disagree with each other. It's strikingly obvious that men who actually read the Bible either denounce it altogether or become fiercly divided about what it actually says. We need to keep in mind also that the the Bible, the Torah, and the Koran are all the same myth twisted in different ways. Obviously if the New Testament is correct then God turned his back on two cultures that wanted to worship him - the Jews and the Muslins. It would be ludicious to claim that the Jews and Muslims turned against God because they both believe that they are worshiping him! This alone should be proof positive that all four of these major religions, Judaism, Catholicism, Islam, and Protestantism are all obviously wrong. It makes no sense to believe in a God that purposefully divides people via confusion. These religions are clearly ungodly, not a one of them can be true because utimately they are all the same train-wrecked religion. Just look at Christianity! It started out with as supposedly unchanging God that was concerned solely with good works and good morals. But now it has become all about a God who has changed his mind about how he wants people to behave, and he has also changed his mind about the criteria to earn his love. Clearly that religion is bogus. It simply can't be true. There's no question about it. A person doesn't even need to go outside of the myth to recognize that it's a farce. If there were any truth to the religion at all, it would need to lie in Judaism or Islam, clearly Catholicism and Protestantism are out of the picture because they veered too far from the original premises of the religion. So if there is any merit in the religion at all it necessarily must be in the pre-Jesus versions of it. Jesus would not be a 'savior' at all, but a divider. And for God not to recognize this would imply that God is utterly stupid. Clearly we can't have God being stupid, so the religion necessarily must be rejected based on the fact that it's absurd. That the only conclusion that can be had if you truly read the Bible. Jesus cannot possibly have been the son of the God of Abraham. The Old Testament simply doesn't leave that option open. Read the Bible and you'll see that this has to be the case. Jesus didn't even agree with the God of Abraham and he actually blasphemed against the God of Abraham by denouncing the ways of the Old Testament. The Jews would have been honoring the God of Abraham by murdering Jesus. There's no way that Jesus could have been the son of the God of Abraham. It just isn't feasible. The Old Testament doesn't permit it. Thank you, Christianity is for everyone. I know I’m repeating myself but are you saved. That could be why you do not fully understand. The first thing I want is for people to ask Jesus Christ for salvation if they are not saved. You’ve read the bible you know why I’m asking for everyone to accept Christ. Second I want people to go to a Christian church so they can grow. MATTHEW 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. MARK 3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother. LUKE 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand. JOHN 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. Please don’t deny Christ. Please don't deny Christ? Are you kidding me? Please don't deny what's right in front of your eyes. The bible cannot be the word of God. There are as many errors in it as there are words. Here are a couple examples: (Using the NIV version) What did Judas actually do? Matthew 27:5 “So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.” VS Acts 1:18 “With the reward he got for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out.” Has anyone really seen God? John 1:18 “No one has ever seen God, but God the only Son, who is at the Father’s side, has made him known. Exodus 33:20 “But, he said, you cannot see my face, for noone may see me and live.” 1 John 4:12 “No one has ever seen God, but if we love each other, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.” VS Genesis 32:30 “So Jacob called the place Peniel saying, It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.” Exodus 33:11 “The Lord would speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks with his friend. Isaiah 6:1 “In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of his robe filled the temple.” Job 42:5 “My ears have heard of you, but now my eyes have seen you.” If the bible really is the word of God, then why can't God keep his facts straight? Maybe it's....I don't know... because the bible was written by men? Some more food for thought. http://www.bidstrup.com/bible.htm All those places you see G-d that has been translated from the word Elohim. Elohim can mean several things. A judge as in athority. An Ambassador. Yahshua refered to himself as Elohim and they wanted to kill him and he said do you not know we are all Elohim. Speaking that the people judged each other. Yahshua was the word. He could be seen. He was Yahweh's Ambassador coming in his name. He was in the burning Bush. He fought with Jacob. He gave the commandments as he was told the same as the NT. None of those are contradictions. The English language translation is what is at fault not the word of Yahweh and any serious student knows these things... Blessings...Miles |
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Krisma
Jesus never rejected the OT law...where do you get that. The Laws were there with a purpose they teach us what not to do. It's not that you change the scripture per say Krisma it's that you take bits and pieces and make it fit your agenda. It just doesn't work like that darling. You can't take a piece of it and scream ohhhhh the injustice women without reading the whole thing...Which also includes other scriptures to refer too. And where exactly did I say anything about taking crap.....see you just make stuff up at random to fit krism's take on things....If your going to quote me or say you agree and least get it right. |
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Edited by
SweetnFunny
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Sat 02/07/09 12:28 PM
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Miles wrote:
All those places you see G-d that has been translated from the word Elohim. Elohim can mean several things. A judge as in athority. An Ambassador. Yahshua refered to himself as Elohim and they wanted to kill him and he said do you not know we are all Elohim. Speaking that the people judged each other. Yahshua was the word. He could be seen. He was Yahweh's Ambassador coming in his name. He was in the burning Bush. He fought with Jacob. He gave the commandments as he was told the same as the NT. None of those are contradictions. The English language translation is what is at fault not the word of Yahweh and any serious student knows these things... Blessings...Miles I get what you're saying, but translation errors are only a part of the problem. Check out this site. http://www.bidstrup.com/bible.htm The author, Scott Bidstrup, gives a really good historical perspective. |
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Krimsa
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Sat 02/07/09 12:31 PM
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Jesus never rejected the OT law Well that’s exactly what I mean Deb when I stated that "we think." Jesus clearly rejected the idea of stoning sinner without due cause yet at the same time he never denounced the Law.  The Laws were there with a purpose they teach us what not to do. Right. Not to show compassion and mercy. Instead jump to conclusions and stone innocent people. It's not that you change the scripture per say Krisma it's that you take bits and pieces and make it fit your agenda. Deb, it’s really difficult to misinterpret the teachings of Paul there in those passages. You can attempt to re-write it all you want and remain clueless. Anyone with half a brain can see what he is stating and it’s not exactly that women should be equal to men in any respect. And where exactly did I say anything about taking crap.....see you just make stuff up at random to fit krism's take on things....If your going to quote me or say you agree and least get it right. I meant that you do not need to take this biblical injustice as the word of any divine creator. No god would reject half of humanity and half of his very own creation. |
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Krisma Jesus never rejected the OT law...where do you get that. The Laws were there with a purpose they teach us what not to do. It's not that you change the scripture per say Krisma it's that you take bits and pieces and make it fit your agenda. It just doesn't work like that darling. You can't take a piece of it and scream ohhhhh the injustice women without reading the whole thing...Which also includes other scriptures to refer too. And where exactly did I say anything about taking crap.....see you just make stuff up at random to fit krism's take on things....If your going to quote me or say you agree and least get it right. does that mean Christians are still stoning people? Because that's OT law at its best, isn't it just? |
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Milesoftheusa
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All those places you see G-d that has been translated from the word Elohim. Elohim can mean several things. A judge as in athority. An Ambassador. Yahshua refered to himself as Elohim and they wanted to kill him and he said do you not know we are all Elohim. Speaking that the people judged each other. Yahshua was the word. He could be seen. He was Yahweh's Ambassador coming in his name. He was in the burning Bush. He fought with Jacob. He gave the commandments as he was told the same as the NT. None of those are contradictions. The English language translation is what is at fault not the word of Yahweh and any serious student knows these things... Blessings...Miles I get what you're saying, but translation errors are only a part of the problem. Check out this site. http://www.bidstrup.com/bible.htm The author, Scott Bidstrup, gives a really good historical perspective. I do not need to.. thier are no contradictions in the the Word of Yahweh. The lying pen of the scribes as was prophecied would happen changed words to fit thier own agenda. For instance the KJV 28 times the word Pasha or passover is in the NT.. 27 times it is translated Passover 1 time Easter. What does the church then teach. Easter a Pagan custom. One big problem with the churches is they want thier flock to believe in an easy Evangel. Just believe . hold up your hands and Praise the l-rd. You do not need to know the bible they will tell you. This is power. They have become the Authority not the Word of Yahweh. It is the same thing Yahshua found when he came the 1st time. You prefer the commandment of man and not the Word of Yahweh. Same reason he is coming back this next time. but this next time he will come in his fathers glory and all those who are not his will die from just looking on him. Zech. says thier faces melt as thier eye sockets fall out . It is a dreadful thing to come before Yahweh's full glory in the flesh because it dies but the spirit shines as he shines. He said that he would not come back untill this evangel had been teached to the 4 corners of the world. How long have we realised thier is 4 corners of the world. Just as he said 2000 years ago. knowledge has increased giving us the ability to know the true word. Yahweh is not slack in his promice as some say. He is just and Holy and fair to all people. Daniel 3500 years ago spoke of a knowledge explosion before Yahshua's coming. All things were basically the same untill 1900. since then knowledge keeps accelerating faster and faster. The scriptures also say that fear and terror would come on the world to where every man would be scared of his nieghbor. That a great force would come about that could kill with such force man has never seen before. The Atomic Bomb. All in this same time period was prophecied these things would happen. It also says thier would be a great falling away and the scriptures would be called old wives fables. How true is this prophecy in front of us today...Blessings...Miles |
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SATAN AND GOD ARE ONLY "STATES OF MIND" that exist in HUMANS...........
nothing has seen the face of god or satan??? why??? because IT IS ONLY HUMANS??? was HITLER THE FACE OF SATAN??? perhaps, but if one think so, then it despise, then blind itself while the same "first motive" that created hitler is created within oneself??? one deem it not possible, BUT LESS ONE HAS ALL MILLIONS OF OTHERS AGREEING WITH SELF, HOW DOES ONE KNOW WHAT IT'S OWN MIND CAN FALL PREY TO??? which one here has MILLIONS SAYING SELF IS CORRECT??? if one believe it is of god, then it has become as of satan, and if one believe it be of satan, then it has become as god??? but does ANYTHING THAT IS "CONTENT AS "I AM", WISH TO BE EITHER??? did it not say "what is UP to man is DOWN to god, and what is DOWN to man is UP with god??? so just saying the BRAIN WORK OPPOSITE OF WHAT IT "WILL ITSELF TO"??? try to have a good day, and see how fast it is turned to bad??? why??? because self WILLED ITSELF TO A CONSTANT STATE OF MIND??? when the brain is just like all other things, it MUST BE IN MOVEMENT or it is not alive??? so if it WILL ITSELF TO A PARTICULAR STATE, THEN IT IS BECOME AS THE OPPOSITE, and since it "look" to find the "evidence" of what itself is, IT WILL ONLY "SEE" THE DATA THAT SUPPORT IT'S OWN FIRST BELIEF??? look into the workings of the brain, and low and behold, TELL ONE "NO" OVER SOMETHING IT REALLY WISH FOR, IT WISH FOR IT MORE??? tell one to share, it become as consumed with greed??? there are many snares, so THERE IS NO CONSTANT, AS EACH THING AS IT COMES IT "NEVER" A CONSTANT, so self is decieved by MAKING IT A CONSTANT??? the same as one thinking some "magic" words spoken, as to be "saved" make it not able to be decieved??? this IN ITSELF, MAKE ONE PRONE MOST TO DECIET OF MIND??? the same as calling self a "good person", or a "christian", or an "athiest", or a ANY IMAGE IT PICK FOR ITSELF, as this HIDE SELF CANNOT "PICK WHAT IT WISH TO BE", as it is ONLY WHAT IT IS EACH SECOND, wish BETTER BE CHANGING AT ALL TIMES, OR SELF IS DILUTED??? convinced it is NOW SOMEHTING, SO HIDING WHAT ITSELF IS??? look into environment??? if a man think in his mind, I AM A HUMK, HAS HE NOW LOST HIS TRUE HUNK ABILITY??? AND SMARTER WOMEN WILL TELL HIM, BUT HE BELIEVE HIS OWN MIND MOST, AND ACTUALLY SURROUND HIMSELF WITH ONLY WOMEN THAT AGREE WITH HIS MIND??? if a women "think" in her mind, I AM BETTER THAN A MAN, has she not become as less, BY THINKING SHE IS MORE??? the same as a man that think the same??? if a women think she is "smokin hot", the smokin hot becomeas as diluted, so slooooooooowly, that before long, she look just as hardened and desperate as the bar flie's she once despised??? any different for a man??? NOT ONE ITOTA!!! tell one it is "good" to share, then it become as consumed with sharing only for a "belief of self as good", so it does not share for the sake of the sight of another's need, BUT MOST FOR ITSELF, TO WILL ITSELF AND "THINK OF ITSELF" AS A GOOD SHARING PERSON??? satan come as an "angel of light" in the mind, making self believe it is correct, while others of course are not correct??? self "emotions" are pure, while others are NOT??? self perception is accurate, and of course, the "other" is confused, even delusional??? THE WILL and inert push and desire and force TO "BE LOVED", INSTEAD OF TO LOVE??? a self defeating misery self create for itself??? the will to LOVE, but if GOOD IS NOT RETURNED UNTO SELF, then self has been abused, SHOWING SELF NEVER REALLY "LOVED", JUST "THOUGHT" and convinced itself IT LOVED, TO GET BACK LOVE??? please, it is not hard to see "what first motive's within the human heart that create "all first evils, that left alone, BECOME AS ROARING LIONS, THAT CAN EVEN KILL ONE THAT HAS BETRAYED SELF", OR THAT IS DEEMED AS LESS VALUE THAN SELF, BECAUSE SELF IS THE HOLY GRAIL OF TRUTH AND VALUE??? wish for a "christian family", and one SEE NOT IT DOES NOT REALLY CARE, EXCEPT FOR WHAT GIVE BACK TO ITSELF, AND MAKE ITSELF AS IMPORTANT??? how is that the conscious mind is blind to it's own inert hidden motive's??? the FIRST DAY AND TIME IT SEE ANOTHER'S FAULT, AND NOT SEE THE SAME WITHIN SELF AT ALL TIMES??? because it see OTHERS evil, and LOOK NOT TO INSPECT SELF AND SEE IF THE SAME EXIST, but only look to see how it does not, so this "evidence it will surely find, as IT HAS INFINITE ACTIONS OF SELF TO LOOK AT FOR EVIDENCE, SO OF COURSE, IT PULL THE FILE ON IT'S LONG LIST OF "GOOD DEEDS" THAT SELF KEEP A TOTAL MENTAL ROLODEX OF??? what made JIM JONES NOT SEE HIS OWN SELF DELUSION??? SEEING AND ACCESSING FROM HIS OWN PERSONAL ROLODEX OF ALL HIS "GOOD" HE DID, AND TAKING ALL THE WORDS OF OTHER'S HE "SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH", THAT ONLY VALIDATED WHAT HE HIMSELF FIRST THOUGHT OF HIMSELF??? then it becomes more clear why it was said, love thy enemey, as THE ENEMY WILL TELL ONESELF LIKE IT IS, AND IF THESE WORDS ARE BELIEVED, THEN SELF IS RESCUED FROM ITSELF, AND IT'S OWN DELUSION OF MIND??? to be saved from what??? the limited SIGHT that create a self defeating energy, that the conscious mind is as drawn to like a magnet, within itself, that keep the eye's looking unto the ground, trying to till the ground of environment to give "itself" what it has not??? it matters not what religion one find that convince itself it is MO GOOD, as the VERY MOTIVE TO SEEK TO PROVE AND GIVE SELF MOST, WILL CREATE DELUSION FROM ANY WORDS HEARD, no matter where they come from??? |
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None of those are contradictions. The English language translation is what is at fault not the word of Yahweh and any serious student knows these things... Blessings...Miles There are TONS of contradictions and errors in the bible. There have been so many posted on this forum alone, I cant even count.  |
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Leah conceives and bears four sons. And it's a good thing, too, since her husband hated her until then for not giving him any sons. 29:32-34 "Then Jacob ... set his ... wives upon camels." Jacob had four wives (or two wives and two concubines -- this distinction is not clear in the Bible): Rachel, Leah, Billah, and Zilpah. There is no indication that God disapproves of this arrangement. 31:17 Laban, Rachel's father, is hunting for the "images" that Rachel had stolen from him. Rachel sits on the "images" and says to her father, "Let it not displease my lord that I cannot rise up before thee: for the custom of women is upon me." She knows that no man will come near her when she is menstruating. 31:34-35 Thats before it becomes really violent. Shall I keep going? Catholic doesnt make any differance, its all the bible. Jeremiah insults people by calling them "harlots" who have sex on every hill and under every tree. Jeremiah 2 2:20 For of old time I have broken thy yoke, and burst thy bands; and thou saidst, I will not transgress; when upon every high hill and under every green tree thou wanderest, playing the harlot. God compares Jerusalem's sinful ways to a promiscuous woman, or a wild donkey in heat. 2:24 A wild ass used to the wilderness, that snuffeth up the wind at her pleasure; in her occasion who can turn her away? all they that seek her will not weary themselves; in her month they shall find her. Just some more misogynist comments being thrown around with impunity. Jesus was intimate with Mary Magdalene more than likely. This is taken from the "Gospel of Philip." As for the Wisdom who is called "the barren," she is the mother of the angels. And the companion of the [...] Mary Magdalene. [...] loved her more than all the disciples, and used to kiss her often on her mouth. The rest of the disciples [...]. They said to him "Why do you love her more than all of us?" The Savior answered and said to them, "Why do I not love you like her? When a blind man and one who sees are both together in darkness, they are no different from one another. When the light comes, then he who sees will see the light, and he who is blind will remain in darkness." Have you? What is your question I don’t see one. There is not a "Gospel of Philip." In the Bible. Jesus was not intimate with Mary Magdalene. If you have question's post them. MATTHEW 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: |
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Leah conceives and bears four sons. And it's a good thing, too, since her husband hated her until then for not giving him any sons. 29:32-34 "Then Jacob ... set his ... wives upon camels." Jacob had four wives (or two wives and two concubines -- this distinction is not clear in the Bible): Rachel, Leah, Billah, and Zilpah. There is no indication that God disapproves of this arrangement. 31:17 Laban, Rachel's father, is hunting for the "images" that Rachel had stolen from him. Rachel sits on the "images" and says to her father, "Let it not displease my lord that I cannot rise up before thee: for the custom of women is upon me." She knows that no man will come near her when she is menstruating. 31:34-35 Thats before it becomes really violent. Shall I keep going? Catholic doesnt make any differance, its all the bible. Jeremiah insults people by calling them "harlots" who have sex on every hill and under every tree. Jeremiah 2 2:20 For of old time I have broken thy yoke, and burst thy bands; and thou saidst, I will not transgress; when upon every high hill and under every green tree thou wanderest, playing the harlot. God compares Jerusalem's sinful ways to a promiscuous woman, or a wild donkey in heat. 2:24 A wild ass used to the wilderness, that snuffeth up the wind at her pleasure; in her occasion who can turn her away? all they that seek her will not weary themselves; in her month they shall find her. Just some more misogynist comments being thrown around with impunity. Jesus was intimate with Mary Magdalene more than likely. This is taken from the "Gospel of Philip." As for the Wisdom who is called "the barren," she is the mother of the angels. And the companion of the [...] Mary Magdalene. [...] loved her more than all the disciples, and used to kiss her often on her mouth. The rest of the disciples [...]. They said to him "Why do you love her more than all of us?" The Savior answered and said to them, "Why do I not love you like her? When a blind man and one who sees are both together in darkness, they are no different from one another. When the light comes, then he who sees will see the light, and he who is blind will remain in darkness." Have you? What is your question I don’t see one. There is not a "Gospel of Philip." In the Bible. Jesus was not intimate with Mary Magdalene. If you have question's post them. MATTHEW 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: I have never asked you a question. I have posted several passages taken from the bible that clearly demonstrate a hateful and resentment filled grudge against women and you told me you were unfamiliar with these passages. That tells me you have not read the bible. The Gospel of Philip is one of the Gnostic Gospels, a text of New Testament apocrypha, dating back to around the third century but lost to modern researchers until it was rediscovered by accident in the mid-20th century. That passage was taken from there and clearly indicates an intimate bond between Mary Magdalene and Jesus. So much so that the disciples were in fact jealous of his affections and felt that his demonstrative love (kissing and touching) were inappropriate to be displayed publicly. |
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SATAN AND GOD ARE ONLY "STATES OF MIND" that exist in HUMANS........... nothing has seen the face of god or satan??? why??? because IT IS ONLY HUMANS??? was HITLER THE FACE OF SATAN??? perhaps, but if one think so, then it despise, then blind itself while the same "first motive" that created hitler is created within oneself??? one deem it not possible, BUT LESS ONE HAS ALL MILLIONS OF OTHERS AGREEING WITH SELF, HOW DOES ONE KNOW WHAT IT'S OWN MIND CAN FALL PREY TO??? which one here has MILLIONS SAYING SELF IS CORRECT??? if one believe it is of god, then it has become as of satan, and if one believe it be of satan, then it has become as god??? but does ANYTHING THAT IS "CONTENT AS "I AM", WISH TO BE EITHER??? did it not say "what is UP to man is DOWN to god, and what is DOWN to man is UP with god??? so just saying the BRAIN WORK OPPOSITE OF WHAT IT "WILL ITSELF TO"??? try to have a good day, and see how fast it is turned to bad??? why??? because self WILLED ITSELF TO A CONSTANT STATE OF MIND??? when the brain is just like all other things, it MUST BE IN MOVEMENT or it is not alive??? so if it WILL ITSELF TO A PARTICULAR STATE, THEN IT IS BECOME AS THE OPPOSITE, and since it "look" to find the "evidence" of what itself is, IT WILL ONLY "SEE" THE DATA THAT SUPPORT IT'S OWN FIRST BELIEF??? look into the workings of the brain, and low and behold, TELL ONE "NO" OVER SOMETHING IT REALLY WISH FOR, IT WISH FOR IT MORE??? tell one to share, it become as consumed with greed??? there are many snares, so THERE IS NO CONSTANT, AS EACH THING AS IT COMES IT "NEVER" A CONSTANT, so self is decieved by MAKING IT A CONSTANT??? the same as one thinking some "magic" words spoken, as to be "saved" make it not able to be decieved??? this IN ITSELF, MAKE ONE PRONE MOST TO DECIET OF MIND??? the same as calling self a "good person", or a "christian", or an "athiest", or a ANY IMAGE IT PICK FOR ITSELF, as this HIDE SELF CANNOT "PICK WHAT IT WISH TO BE", as it is ONLY WHAT IT IS EACH SECOND, wish BETTER BE CHANGING AT ALL TIMES, OR SELF IS DILUTED??? convinced it is NOW SOMEHTING, SO HIDING WHAT ITSELF IS??? look into environment??? if a man think in his mind, I AM A HUMK, HAS HE NOW LOST HIS TRUE HUNK ABILITY??? AND SMARTER WOMEN WILL TELL HIM, BUT HE BELIEVE HIS OWN MIND MOST, AND ACTUALLY SURROUND HIMSELF WITH ONLY WOMEN THAT AGREE WITH HIS MIND??? if a women "think" in her mind, I AM BETTER THAN A MAN, has she not become as less, BY THINKING SHE IS MORE??? the same as a man that think the same??? if a women think she is "smokin hot", the smokin hot becomeas as diluted, so slooooooooowly, that before long, she look just as hardened and desperate as the bar flie's she once despised??? any different for a man??? NOT ONE ITOTA!!! tell one it is "good" to share, then it become as consumed with sharing only for a "belief of self as good", so it does not share for the sake of the sight of another's need, BUT MOST FOR ITSELF, TO WILL ITSELF AND "THINK OF ITSELF" AS A GOOD SHARING PERSON??? satan come as an "angel of light" in the mind, making self believe it is correct, while others of course are not correct??? self "emotions" are pure, while others are NOT??? self perception is accurate, and of course, the "other" is confused, even delusional??? THE WILL and inert push and desire and force TO "BE LOVED", INSTEAD OF TO LOVE??? a self defeating misery self create for itself??? the will to LOVE, but if GOOD IS NOT RETURNED UNTO SELF, then self has been abused, SHOWING SELF NEVER REALLY "LOVED", JUST "THOUGHT" and convinced itself IT LOVED, TO GET BACK LOVE??? please, it is not hard to see "what first motive's within the human heart that create "all first evils, that left alone, BECOME AS ROARING LIONS, THAT CAN EVEN KILL ONE THAT HAS BETRAYED SELF", OR THAT IS DEEMED AS LESS VALUE THAN SELF, BECAUSE SELF IS THE HOLY GRAIL OF TRUTH AND VALUE??? wish for a "christian family", and one SEE NOT IT DOES NOT REALLY CARE, EXCEPT FOR WHAT GIVE BACK TO ITSELF, AND MAKE ITSELF AS IMPORTANT??? how is that the conscious mind is blind to it's own inert hidden motive's??? the FIRST DAY AND TIME IT SEE ANOTHER'S FAULT, AND NOT SEE THE SAME WITHIN SELF AT ALL TIMES??? because it see OTHERS evil, and LOOK NOT TO INSPECT SELF AND SEE IF THE SAME EXIST, but only look to see how it does not, so this "evidence it will surely find, as IT HAS INFINITE ACTIONS OF SELF TO LOOK AT FOR EVIDENCE, SO OF COURSE, IT PULL THE FILE ON IT'S LONG LIST OF "GOOD DEEDS" THAT SELF KEEP A TOTAL MENTAL ROLODEX OF??? what made JIM JONES NOT SEE HIS OWN SELF DELUSION??? SEEING AND ACCESSING FROM HIS OWN PERSONAL ROLODEX OF ALL HIS "GOOD" HE DID, AND TAKING ALL THE WORDS OF OTHER'S HE "SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH", THAT ONLY VALIDATED WHAT HE HIMSELF FIRST THOUGHT OF HIMSELF??? then it becomes more clear why it was said, love thy enemey, as THE ENEMY WILL TELL ONESELF LIKE IT IS, AND IF THESE WORDS ARE BELIEVED, THEN SELF IS RESCUED FROM ITSELF, AND IT'S OWN DELUSION OF MIND??? to be saved from what??? the limited SIGHT that create a self defeating energy, that the conscious mind is as drawn to like a magnet, within itself, that keep the eye's looking unto the ground, trying to till the ground of environment to give "itself" what it has not??? it matters not what religion one find that convince itself it is MO GOOD, as the VERY MOTIVE TO SEEK TO PROVE AND GIVE SELF MOST, WILL CREATE DELUSION FROM ANY WORDS HEARD, no matter where they come from??? Instead of just writing a bunch of words try showing what you say from a manuscript that has stood the test of time. Thier is no other way to Yahweh. thier is 1. It is his name to be called upon. Why? Because you declare that he made the Heavens and the Earth and all that is in them and thier is no other. Thats why thier are 3 stern commandments about this. Majic words. You want to call what Yahweh has said Majic? Thats dangerous territory David. It says Every one who Calls upon the name of Yahweh shall be saved. Yahweh the father. But what else does it say thier? Yahshua's name Yahweh saves is its meaning he always pointed to the father not himself.. Then it says that no one can call upon this saving name and be against us. They can not do it. They will refuse to do it because of what it entails in it. The Prophecy of Jeremiah on the day of Pentecost. Broad is the way to destruction and many go that way but narrow is the way to life and few thier be that find it. You are to search for the truth with a open heart and only Yahweh's word as your test of truth. I do not know where you get you words at. But they mix truth with lies and the end result can only be a lie for thier is only 1 way and you need to seek it out and try your best to find it..Shalom...Miles |
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None of those are contradictions. The English language translation is what is at fault not the word of Yahweh and any serious student knows these things... Blessings...Miles There are TONS of contradictions and errors in the bible. There have been so many posted on this forum alone, I cant even count. I have been on here for 2 years Krisma. I have yet to have one that i could not show that it was not a contrdiction..Blessings..Miles |
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Miles wrote: All those places you see G-d that has been translated from the word Elohim. Elohim can mean several things. A judge as in athority. An Ambassador. Yahshua refered to himself as Elohim and they wanted to kill him and he said do you not know we are all Elohim. Speaking that the people judged each other. Yahshua was the word. He could be seen. He was Yahweh's Ambassador coming in his name. He was in the burning Bush. He fought with Jacob. He gave the commandments as he was told the same as the NT. None of those are contradictions. The English language translation is what is at fault not the word of Yahweh and any serious student knows these things... Blessings...Miles I get what you're saying, but translation errors are only a part of the problem. Check out this site. http://www.bidstrup.com/bible.htm The author, Scott Bidstrup, gives a really good historical perspective. There are no contradictions only people's misunderstanding of what they are reading. |
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None of those are contradictions. The English language translation is what is at fault not the word of Yahweh and any serious student knows these things... Blessings...Miles There are TONS of contradictions and errors in the bible. There have been so many posted on this forum alone, I cant even count. I have been on here for 2 years Krisma. I have yet to have one that i could not show that it was not a contrdiction..Blessings..Miles All you need do is click on my profile and look up my posts since I have joined. |
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