Topic: Read your Bible!
Krimsa's photo
Sat 02/07/09 09:54 AM
Yep and I’m pretty sure he has not read it or he has only read what he wanted to read or what he felt was important. Nothing to do with women is important to him at all apparently.

ddrgkd's photo
Sat 02/07/09 10:02 AM

If you have read the bible, how come you did not recognize those passages I emailed you?


I felt a female perspective would be of more help. If you want post them and i will answer you.

ROMANS 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.




Krimsa's photo
Sat 02/07/09 10:09 AM
I posted more. Scroll back. You told me you were "unfamiluar". You implied that I was making them up. They are taken directly from scripture.

ddrgkd's photo
Sat 02/07/09 10:11 AM


If you have read the bible, how come you did not recognize those passages I emailed you?


For all I know he could be a robot, randomly post passages of the bible, and the same "are you saved?" BS over and over again.


Have you ever told me whether you’re saved? Salvation is the first thing everyone needs to have. That is the main reason I ask that question. You might have already told me I just don’t remember.

ROMANS 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

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Sat 02/07/09 10:15 AM


ddrgkd, that was a tongue-in-cheek post I made. Have YOU read the bible? There is no book titled Hezekiah in the bible. Hezekiah was a king mentioned (I think) in Kings, Chronicles & Isaiah.

Good for you that you have a strong faith and are happy with where you're at, but Christianity is NOT for everyone. No matter how many times you ask someone to read the bible, or ask them if they're saved, you're not going to change their mind. There are those of us here who have read the bible front to back and we're still not going to agree with you. If you want to argue using scripture verses, I'll be happy to list verses that directly contradict each other.
I was raised in a christian household. I was taught that Jesus was the only way into Heaven. Whenever I had a question about something contradictory in the bible, the question went unanswered. The only time I truly felt Saved was when I took the christian blindfold off and left the church altogether.


ddrgkd is a perfect example of how brainwashing works.

Notice that all he ever posts are the brainwashing verses of the Bible that are repeated by the biblical authors ad nausea.

It's clear that the culture that wrote the Bible was desperate to brainwash people into believing that they need to be 'saved' and that only their religion can provide that service.

He can't debate the book in general because he has no clue what the stories are actually about.

I believe that you are right to ask him if he ever actually read the Bible himself because based on his posts it's pretty obvious that he hasn't. He just roots through the book quoting the demagogurey and never gives any reasons or explanations as to why any of it makes any sense.

The idea that Jesus was the son of the God of Abraham is ludicous and that becomes crystal clear from actually reading the Bible!

It is a fact that the vast majority of Christians have no clue what the Bible actually says.

In fact, historically speaking, the men who have studied the Bible the most have rejected the religion altogether.

Of course there are those who made religion their careers, but even if we look at the professional clergy we see that they all disagree on what the Mediterranean myth is all about.

Some of them are Jews, some are Muslims, some are Catholics, and the most obnoxious of all have protested to become protestants of a myriad of sects that all disagree with each other.

It's strikingly obvious that men who actually read the Bible either denounce it altogether or become fiercly divided about what it actually says.

We need to keep in mind also that the the Bible, the Torah, and the Koran are all the same myth twisted in different ways.

Obviously if the New Testament is correct then God turned his back on two cultures that wanted to worship him - the Jews and the Muslins.

It would be ludicious to claim that the Jews and Muslims turned against God because they both believe that they are worshiping him!

This alone should be proof positive that all four of these major religions, Judaism, Catholicism, Islam, and Protestantism are all obviously wrong.

It makes no sense to believe in a God that purposefully divides people via confusion.

These religions are clearly ungodly, not a one of them can be true because utimately they are all the same train-wrecked religion.

Just look at Christianity!

It started out with as supposedly unchanging God that was concerned solely with good works and good morals. But now it has become all about a God who has changed his mind about how he wants people to behave, and he has also changed his mind about the criteria to earn his love.

Clearly that religion is bogus. It simply can't be true. There's no question about it. A person doesn't even need to go outside of the myth to recognize that it's a farce.

If there were any truth to the religion at all, it would need to lie in Judaism or Islam, clearly Catholicism and Protestantism are out of the picture because they veered too far from the original premises of the religion.

So if there is any merit in the religion at all it necessarily must be in the pre-Jesus versions of it.

Jesus would not be a 'savior' at all, but a divider. And for God not to recognize this would imply that God is utterly stupid. Clearly we can't have God being stupid, so the religion necessarily must be rejected based on the fact that it's absurd.

That the only conclusion that can be had if you truly read the Bible.

Jesus cannot possibly have been the son of the God of Abraham. The Old Testament simply doesn't leave that option open.

Read the Bible and you'll see that this has to be the case. Jesus didn't even agree with the God of Abraham and he actually blasphemed against the God of Abraham by denouncing the ways of the Old Testament. The Jews would have been honoring the God of Abraham by murdering Jesus.

There's no way that Jesus could have been the son of the God of Abraham.

It just isn't feasible. The Old Testament doesn't permit it.


Well said. drinker

ddrgkd's photo
Sat 02/07/09 10:16 AM

I posted more. Scroll back. You told me you were "unfamiluar". You implied that I was making them up. They are taken directly from scripture.


I’m sorry if I implied something. If you have a question ask.

1CORINTHIANS 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures;

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Sat 02/07/09 10:20 AM


I posted more. Scroll back. You told me you were "unfamiluar". You implied that I was making them up. They are taken directly from scripture.


I’m sorry if I implied something. If you have a question ask.

1CORINTHIANS 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures;


If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and have knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

Love never fails.

But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

I CORINTHIANS 13

Now, ddrgkd, do you see where you are lacking?

TBRich's photo
Sat 02/07/09 10:21 AM
I don't understand why anyone would want eternal life?

no photo
Sat 02/07/09 10:25 AM

I don't understand why anyone would want eternal life?


It's only those who are afraid of dying.

feralcatlady's photo
Sat 02/07/09 10:26 AM
I do believe the Lord pours out gifts, some maybe warriors to preach the gospels to the unsaved. Some may work with children as that is their gifting.

I also truly believe that as Christians you can plant the seen, but it truly is between Christ and the person. If people come and as I answer...Otherwise I let people believe whatever they wish. I put it out there what people do with it is up to them


But have an atheist or panthiest tell me that God, Jeuss Christ and the Bible are myths....Well then a different path will be taken...And it's not because God or Christ need my defense....It's because to me it's a slap in my face as well a the Lord and The Father.

Krimsa's photo
Sat 02/07/09 10:28 AM


I posted more. Scroll back. You told me you were "unfamiluar". You implied that I was making them up. They are taken directly from scripture.


I’m sorry if I implied something. If you have a question ask.

1CORINTHIANS 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures;


I told you to scroll back. You did not recognize the ones I sent so I posted more on your thread. You can check them against the bible if you still feel I am "inventing scripture."

ddrgkd's photo
Sat 02/07/09 10:39 AM

I don't understand why anyone would want eternal life?


Have you read the holy bible.

JOHN 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Krimsa's photo
Sat 02/07/09 10:45 AM
Have you? huh

TBRich's photo
Sat 02/07/09 10:52 AM
Do you really want to live forever? Sounds like a mad scientist or something to me.

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Sat 02/07/09 10:56 AM


I don't understand why anyone would want eternal life?


Have you read the holy bible.

JOHN 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.


it would be nice for a change if you answered.:angry:

And I mean in your own words, not with a copy and paste jobgrumble

And without the same silly question over and over again.

You are not a born missionary, you wouldn't convert anyone, the way you are trying.

feralcatlady's photo
Sat 02/07/09 11:00 AM
Again K what your the best at....taking scripture out of context....tisk tisk

1CORINTHIANS 15:3

3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures


But now doll let's take it in it's entirety.

The Resurrection of Christ

1Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve. 6After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.

9For I am the least of the apostles and do not even deserve to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace to me was not without effect. No, I worked harder than all of them—yet not I, but the grace of God that was with me. 11Whether, then, it was I or they, this is what we preach, and this is what you believed.

see now makes a lil more sense huh Krisma.

Now also First Corinthians on the whole it revelas the pressures, and struggles of a chruch called out of a pagan society. Paul addresses a variety of problems in the lifestyle of the Corinthian church. Lawsuits immorality, questionable practices, abuse of gifts.

ddrgkd's photo
Sat 02/07/09 11:03 AM

Do you really want to live forever? Sounds like a mad scientist or something to me.


Yes i do.

JOHN 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

TBRich's photo
Sat 02/07/09 11:05 AM
Why? To everything there is season.

Krimsa's photo
Sat 02/07/09 11:06 AM
No, not at all.

Paul says "the head of the woman is the man," meaning that the women are to be subordinate to men.

1 Corinthians 11

11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

feralcatlady's photo
Sat 02/07/09 11:13 AM
Edited by feralcatlady on Sat 02/07/09 11:14 AM

No, not at all.

Paul says "the head of the woman is the man," meaning that the women are to be subordinate to men.

1 Corinthians 11

11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.



The created distinction between man and woman should be honored in the church... A healthy community needs men and women together (v. 11), not a group of people striving for sexless neutrality.

At the same time the functional equality of men and women in worship and community leadership should be emphasized. Paul promulgates his teaching about head coverings for women not in order to restrict their participation in prayer and prophecy but rather to enable them to perform these activities with dignity, avoiding distractions for people whose cultural sensibilities were formed by the social conventions of the ancient Mediterranean world.

Anyone who appeals to this passage to silence women or to deny them leadership roles in the church is flagrantly misusing the text...