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Topic: Three Words Fundamentalist Christians Can’t Say
Giocamo's photo
Sun 01/11/09 02:45 PM

Thank you. I just wanted that filthy thing off. You arent a racist are you? Thats hideous. noway


oh you mean the cross ?...I posted that more for what it says...actually...it is quite an eyesore...looks kind of heavy too...gulp !!...lol

Krimsa's photo
Sun 01/11/09 02:49 PM
No not the cross. The other that you took down when I said something. I don’t know if it’s against the rules but especially in the religious forum, it’s bound to set people off. You should really be a little more sensitive. Especially in light of the recent massacre.

Giocamo's photo
Sun 01/11/09 02:56 PM

No not the cross. The other that you took down when I said something. I don’t know if it’s against the rules but especially in the religious forum, it’s bound to set people off. You should really be a little more sensitive. Especially in light of the recent massacre.


you mean the old Jewish guy ?...I guess you're probably right...my ex was Jewish...and...I was pretty much a Jew for 25 years...all the holidays...Menorah...NO christmas tree or any of that...if the mother is Jewish...so is the house...and...the children...so...I really don't take alot of this serious...and...maybe I should...:wink:

Krimsa's photo
Sun 01/11/09 02:58 PM
I first thought it was supposed to be an exaggerated characterization of an Arab man. Either way, it’s bad.

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Sun 01/11/09 03:05 PM











Explain how it is they can't know.


Christians worship a book as the "word of God".

But that book has been shown to be so self-contradictive and self-inconsistent that it couldn't possibly be the word of any God.

So whether or not "a God" might exist abstractly is irrelavent. What we can know is that the biblical account of God can't be true because the biblical stories are self-conflicting.

I think atheists clearly have the upper hand when it comes to proof. Especially in light of the new Inflation theories that show how the universe could indeed start from nothing without violating the known laws of physics. There's no longer a need to have a God create it all from nothing.


Your post does nothing to explain how a person can't know there is a God.

And if there is any group of thinkers lacking proof to their beliefs - it's Atheists. They can do nothing to support their conjector that there is no God. Impossible to prove. Even you know that.


I can't prove that Thor does not exist so does that mean he does?
And Athiests do not have anything to prove because they are not the ones makeing the claim.


Your not explaining how it is I can't know there is a God. Would you just rather retract your statement?

again, You have no evidence what so ever so you can not know there is a god.
Well and be honest anyway, but I doubt you will let that detail stand in your way of makeing claims.If you are religious then honesty and evidence are your enemy.



I'm not "religious". What does that even mean?

I believe there is a God - and I believe God. The evidence I have is that there are promises He makes in his word, and He fullfills them. That is my evidence. I actually have more evidence for God than I do for any president I've ever had - none of whom have been able to keep their word, as well as any employer I've had - and even most of my friends. None of whom have been able to keep their promises. That's enough evidence for me. He keeps His promises.

So again I ask - how is it I cannot know there is a God?


if anyone says they know that leprechauns exist, they are just as valid as you saying you know your god does.
So I guess on that level you can, because you have just as much evidence.


Surely you can at least come up with a plausable analogy. And one of these posts maybe you'll answer my question. I doubt it though.

Would you rather retract your statement?


that analogy works fine.
So no, no retraction here.
Maybe you would like to retract yours.


Perhaps in your mind leprechauns are analogious to Jesus. That just demonstrates to me how little you know about Jesus.

Once again - you demonstrate an incapabality to responding to the direct question of "How a person can't know God?". I've wasted enough time asking it - it's obvious you have no clue what the answer to your own statement is, so retracting your statement isn't necessary, you've easily disqualified yourself from having your opinion even considered.


how many times do you need me to answer the same question?
Until it's the answer you want?
If my answer scares you then don't ask scary questions.

Yamin's photo
Sun 01/11/09 10:11 PM
:heart: It seems that curiosity is tingling your brains.
:heart: :smile: :heart: :smile: :heart: :smile:

Yamin

Krimsa's photo
Mon 01/12/09 03:16 AM

:heart: It seems that curiosity is tingling your brains.
:heart: :smile: :heart: :smile: :heart: :smile:

Yamin


Questions are not often very welcome on these threads however.

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Mon 01/12/09 08:02 AM
what "religion" could be founded, less one first said "this is right, and that is wrong"....

is not this the natural inclination of all things born, since all things enter into an environment shaped with this logic?

the word religion hide what religion is?

to say this is good, and that is evil?

of course, naturally this logic will make self as good alwasy, and others the evil?

is not then "right and wrong" the only thing that create "religion", the never ending perpetual circle of no solution?






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Mon 01/12/09 10:08 AM



there is a God......and he created the universeflowerforyou


Got proof to back up that claim?
Yes there is and he did and no don't have any proof that would work for most skeptics.

drinker

but then again, I don't need proof, others seem to need it. I am content and happy with my beliefs and enjoy Gods many blessings daily.

no photo
Mon 01/12/09 10:37 AM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Mon 01/12/09 10:55 AM



Many fundamentalist Christians ask me questions like, “If God didn’t create the Universe, how did the Universe get here?” First, this question concludes the answer right from the start and then goes on to suggest that it is the only possible answer. Instead of using the evidence to come up with a theory, the fundamentalist has the “Truth” and then looks for evidence to support their “Truth.” Should they find evidence which contradicts their “Truth” then that evidence must be wrong because we already have the conclusion, i.e. the “Truth.”






The creationists don't look for facts, they look for ways to distort the facts and twist them into what often become outright lies.

They also ignore any facts that show why their conclusions can't possible be true.



Give me an example of this claim you've made - and a quote to back it up.
Watch Expelled . . . .
http://mingle2.com/topic/show/196512

In fact Ebert has already given you plenty of examples if you read his review of this silly movie.

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Mon 01/12/09 10:42 AM

what "religion" could be founded, less one first said "this is right, and that is wrong"....

is not this the natural inclination of all things born, since all things enter into an environment shaped with this logic?

the word religion hide what religion is?

to say this is good, and that is evil?

of course, naturally this logic will make self as good alwasy, and others the evil?

is not then "right and wrong" the only thing that create "religion", the never ending perpetual circle of no solution?


Yes

Eljay's photo
Mon 01/12/09 03:35 PM



I dont see a problem with that analogy either. To a perosn who doesnt believe in all this, the concept of god being real is about as plausible as leprechauns existing. They might but no one can substantiate that and the bible simply makes it even more unlikely.


I'm not surprised. I don't suspect you know any more about Jesus than he does.


Yeah I guess I know about as much of Jesus as you know about Neanderthal man and basic Paleontology. The stuff they start teaching second graders. happy


No - I'm afraid you don't.

Krimsa's photo
Mon 01/12/09 03:39 PM
Well seeing as I can hold a dialogue with you on just about any topic I have brought forth as it concerns Jesus or the bible yet I’m still waiting for you to be able to focus enough on anything even remotely related to evolutionary biology.


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Mon 01/12/09 08:34 PM




I dont see a problem with that analogy either. To a perosn who doesnt believe in all this, the concept of god being real is about as plausible as leprechauns existing. They might but no one can substantiate that and the bible simply makes it even more unlikely.


I'm not surprised. I don't suspect you know any more about Jesus than he does.


Yeah I guess I know about as much of Jesus as you know about Neanderthal man and basic Paleontology. The stuff they start teaching second graders. happy


No - I'm afraid you don't.


well it's a good thing we have you around to tell us what we know and don't know.laugh laugh

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