Topic: Is the Bible repulsive?
Quikstepper's photo
Wed 12/31/08 12:15 PM



Well if God says we are to kill those who commit these crimes against His laws, then maybe that's an indication of how seriously we should take His word. Unfortunately all too many people have moved away from the seriousness of the cost to moving away FROM His word in regard to life & living. I'm going to be honest & say I even have a hard time with fighting the constant bombardment of secularized mindsets. I have to constantly be aware of how the world desensitizes me to the purity of God's word.

Maybe it was that society was that depraved to the point of such destruction & tragedy that God wanted people to understand WHY that was so. The wages of sin IS death.

Nonetheless, the first 10 commandments can be summed up as loving others as you love yourself. "Not coveting" means putting others first.


well said...:smile:

"covet"
verb long for, desire, fancy (informal) envy, crave, aspire to, yearn for, thirst for, begrudge, hanker after, lust after, set your heart on, have your eye on, would give your eyeteeth for
Collins Essential Thesaurus 2nd Edition 2006 © HarperCollins Publishers



Thanks for the definition...it helps people to see it from God's POV.

skypoetone's photo
Wed 12/31/08 12:22 PM
"Well if God says we are to kill those who commit these crimes against His laws, then maybe that's an indication of how seriously we should take His word. Unfortunately all too many people have moved away from the seriousness of the cost to moving away FROM His word in regard to life & living."

Rarely have I heard such bigotry and hate!

Krimsa's photo
Wed 12/31/08 12:27 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Wed 12/31/08 12:27 PM

"Well if God says we are to kill those who commit these crimes against His laws, then maybe that's an indication of how seriously we should take His word. Unfortunately all too many people have moved away from the seriousness of the cost to moving away FROM His word in regard to life & living."

Rarely have I heard such bigotry and hate!



Agreed. Do you know how to use the quote? Just hit quote and it will quote the person.

Quikstepper's photo
Wed 12/31/08 12:34 PM

"Well if God says we are to kill those who commit these crimes against His laws, then maybe that's an indication of how seriously we should take His word. Unfortunately all too many people have moved away from the seriousness of the cost to moving away FROM His word in regard to life & living."

Rarely have I heard such bigotry and hate!





Being selective about what I wrote doesn't make you right. I suggest you read it thoroughly before you name call.

Others of good faith who read it know exactly what I wrote.

....but you have a Happy New Year.

Krimsa's photo
Wed 12/31/08 12:45 PM
I read it and found it in complete keeping with the rest of your statements that have been made on forum.

skypoetone's photo
Wed 12/31/08 12:55 PM
Edited by skypoetone on Wed 12/31/08 12:56 PM


"Well if God says we are to kill those who commit these crimes against His laws, then maybe that's an indication of how seriously we should take His word. Unfortunately all too many people have moved away from the seriousness of the cost to moving away FROM His word in regard to life & living."

Rarely have I heard such bigotry and hate!





Being selective about what I wrote doesn't make you right. I suggest you read it thoroughly before you name call.

Yes... sorry, quote box used. :)

How can you say I am being selective and then address "others of good faith will know what I wrote"... can you hear the hypocrisy in that statement?

Happy New Year All! :)

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Wed 12/31/08 01:05 PM
As to the topic of this thread (I have not even seen the video):
Things are good or bad (repulsive) depending upon the individual who sees them or reads them. What that person has in his/her heart or feelings is what gives that person a perception of the reality, and the things in that reality. (Bible included.)

Krimsa's photo
Wed 12/31/08 01:07 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Wed 12/31/08 01:08 PM
Well in that case, the Christians thus far have done a lot of dancing around direct passages that were taken from scripture. Well not all of them. Skypoet has been the only Christian to address them head on and call them as he sees it.

Quikstepper's photo
Sat 01/03/09 06:09 AM

Krimsa...Jesus did not come to denounce or do away with the law...

He came to FULFIL the Law.

Not by doing things the old way..

but offering a new and better way....


Krimsa..THIS is HOW Jesus FULFILLS the Law :


Jesus said , first...."Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and all thy mind, and all thy soul...."

and Jesus also said secondly..."Love they Neighbor as thy self."

Krimsa..when a person does what Jesus commanded....it fulfills the law...

cauase you see ,Krimsa...

WHEN someone loves the Lord with all their being like that.....

and when someone loves their neighbor as thyself....

QUESS WHAT!!!

There won't be no thoughts of stoning ,for instance.....

There will be just thoughts of love joy and peace towards all mankind.

BUT Krimsa....

the only way a person can actually LOVE the Lord thy God and thy neighbor like that, is...

by being born of God...cause on own own,we probably cant possibly love like that...

not until God Himself comes to dwell in us....thru God's Holy Spirit....

which can only happen when we ask Jesus into our hearts.

THEN are we able to love as God commanded......cause now, HE Loves THRU Us ...because He Lives IN Us.

Krimsa...when we Love God we keep His Commandments.
Out of LOVE for God.

Now....What are His Commandments again ?

Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart and mind and soul.....

Love they neighbor as thyself.

Those 2 commandments of God FUFILLS it all.

When we LOVE like that..who is gonna have room for hate..or stoning....

See?

flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou



Correct MS...people forget that the greater glory was Christ's resurrection from the dead. It's only the birth of His spirit in us that anyone can attain to the greater glory. It's not of ourselves or Christ would not have had to die.

That's the joy unspeakable & full of glory that is sung about. :smile: flowerforyou :smile:

Krimsa's photo
Sat 01/03/09 06:13 AM
And thats why it clearly states that we should kill every man woman and child that is forced to work Sundays. I dont think anyone has addressed that yet. There has sure been a lot of sidestepping and re-explanation given however. Thank you senator.

Quikstepper's photo
Sat 01/03/09 06:24 AM
...because it's a moot point...you just want to argue. That's why no one answers your question when it's you who completely avoids all that is posted about God's love toward humanity.

Start addressing that ...now that would be a change.

Krimsa's photo
Sat 01/03/09 06:28 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Sat 01/03/09 06:29 AM
Well that is what the thread was meant to address. If you have an opinion (besides just regurgitating scripture) than I and probably others would listen to you. Its the dancing around that is annoying. Can you blame us?

It states in the bible to KILL those that dont keep the Sabbath. What says you?

Quikstepper's photo
Sat 01/03/09 06:32 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sat 01/03/09 06:32 AM

Well that is what the thread was meant to address. If you have an opinion (besides just regurgitating scripture) than I and probably others would listen to you. Its the dancing around that is annoying. Can you blame us?

It states in the bible to KILL those that dont keep the Sabbath. What says you?



I say there is more to God's word than what you choose to ignore. I will say it again...it's easy for those who are perishing to see only destruction in God's word.

...as for those who come to God & accept his gift of salvation is renewal, deliverance & restoration & right standing & all the love & strength & glory of God. His very nature as a banner over us.

Can't you see the contrast? Or do you just want your own way?

Krimsa's photo
Sat 01/03/09 06:44 AM
More dancing...I'll allow someone else to address this with you.

no photo
Sat 01/03/09 06:53 AM


Well that is what the thread was meant to address. If you have an opinion (besides just regurgitating scripture) than I and probably others would listen to you. Its the dancing around that is annoying. Can you blame us?

It states in the bible to KILL those that dont keep the Sabbath. What says you?



I say there is more to God's word than what you choose to ignore. I will say it again...it's easy for those who are perishing to see only destruction in God's word.

...as for those who come to God & accept his gift of salvation is renewal, deliverance & restoration & right standing & all the love & strength & glory of God. His very nature as a banner over us.

Can't you see the contrast? Or do you just want your own way?


So, and his gift of salvation puts bread on our tables so we don't have to work on the sabbath anymore?
No, it doesn't, so we have to work the sabbath, so we have to die by being stoned because we don't want to starve.
Where's the logic?

Inkracer's photo
Sat 01/03/09 08:19 AM
Since I am an atheist, I will not try to "explain" any part of the bible. In my own opinion, either the bible is a holy book, and every passage is supposed to be taken literally, or you're not supposed to take any of it literally, in which case it would be a great work of fiction, given the amount of people that believe it.

Quikstepper's photo
Sat 01/03/09 09:26 AM

Since I am an atheist, I will not try to "explain" any part of the bible. In my own opinion, either the bible is a holy book, and every passage is supposed to be taken literally, or you're not supposed to take any of it literally, in which case it would be a great work of fiction, given the amount of people that believe it.



When it comes to faith it's not about quantity it's about quality.


Inkracer's photo
Sat 01/03/09 09:34 AM


Since I am an atheist, I will not try to "explain" any part of the bible. In my own opinion, either the bible is a holy book, and every passage is supposed to be taken literally, or you're not supposed to take any of it literally, in which case it would be a great work of fiction, given the amount of people that believe it.
When it comes to faith it's not about quantity it's about quality.


That is missing my point, that being, either every word needs to be taken literally, or none of them should be. If the book is supposed to be "holy" then either it's all holy, or none of it is. There should be no picking and choosing.

Quikstepper's photo
Sat 01/03/09 09:37 AM



Since I am an atheist, I will not try to "explain" any part of the bible. In my own opinion, either the bible is a holy book, and every passage is supposed to be taken literally, or you're not supposed to take any of it literally, in which case it would be a great work of fiction, given the amount of people that believe it.
When it comes to faith it's not about quantity it's about quality.


That is missing my point, that being, either every word needs to be taken literally, or none of them should be. If the book is supposed to be "holy" then either it's all holy, or none of it is. There should be no picking and choosing.




That is a very limited view of God when there is also His very nature toward us of love & great helps & wonders. I am so sorry that some here are so stuck in their dogma they miss the greater glory.

I won't fight with that sort of small mindedness. I think you are stuck in your own persecution when you refuse to see it God's way.


Krimsa's photo
Sat 01/03/09 09:40 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Sat 01/03/09 09:40 AM



Since I am an atheist, I will not try to "explain" any part of the bible. In my own opinion, either the bible is a holy book, and every passage is supposed to be taken literally, or you're not supposed to take any of it literally, in which case it would be a great work of fiction, given the amount of people that believe it.
When it comes to faith it's not about quantity it's about quality.


That is missing my point, that being, either every word needs to be taken literally, or none of them should be. If the book is supposed to be "holy" then either it's all holy, or none of it is. There should be no picking and choosing.



Its easier for them to pick and choose because it alleviates the responsibility of justifying the very horrible parts of the bible.