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When I learned about a few of the verses from postings on Usenet about 15 years ago, I didn't believe it. So, I thumbed open my copy of the Revised Standard Version-- and there they were in all their literal glory.
My reaction was, 'hmmmm, no WONDER they didn't teach those in Sunday School.' Then, remembering how Fundies got their knickers in a twist over 'The Catcher in the Rye', I got to thinking how some of the stuff in the O.T. missed their notice and was really materially different. Of course, we know they'll never hold sit-ins to have it banned, eh? -Kerry O. |
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Sun 12/28/08 06:20 PM
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The bible is repulsive and I will just throw out some random passages. I have quotes. I will start with women and move up to homosexuals.
How the bible feels about women. (is my mic on)? Genesis God fashions a woman out of one of Adam's ribs. This was necessary since Adam couldn't find a "help meet" in any of the animals that God made for him. 2:20-22 Adam blames Eve and Eve blames the serpent. 3:12-13 God punishes Eve, and all women after her, with the pains of childbirth and subjection to men. 3:16 Adam is also punished, although less severely. He now will have to work for a living because he "hearkened unto the voice" of his wife. 3:17 Lamech is the first of a long line of biblical men with more than one wife. It seems that God approves of such marriages. 4:19, 23 Finally, sometime in the next 800 years, Adam begat some daughters. These nameless ones are the first (and nearly the last) girls to be born in the Bible. 5:4 "The male and his female ..." Notice that in the Bible female animals are the property of male animals, as women are the property of men. 7:2 Abram makes his wife lie for him, by telling the Egyptians that she is his sister. But at least it was half-true, since she was his half-sister. Such incestuous marriages are condemned elsewhere in the Bible, but god makes an exception for Abram and Sarai. (See Gen.17:15-16 where God blesses their marriage.) 12:13 Psst, is my mic still on? |
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 Remember the part in the OT where it says don't have sex with animals because its "confusing"?  I would say thats more than confusing.
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Ya know the fact that it even has to tell people not to bed down with livestock in the holy scripture speaks volumes to me...
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Edited by
Milesoftheusa
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Sun 12/28/08 07:24 PM
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Ya know the fact that it even has to tell people not to bed down with livestock in the holy scripture speaks volumes to me... Had to be a reason that had to be brought up..HUH Shalom..Miles
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Answer to the question: No agreed 
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More misogyny in Genesis
Sarai is the first of a long line of barren women who were desperate for children. (In the Bible, it is the women who are barren, never the men.) She sends Abram into her handmaid, Hagar, so that she can "obtain children by her." Abram gladly complies. 16:1-4 Sarah, who is about 90 years old and has gone through menopause, laughs at God when he tells her that she will have a son. She asks God if she will "have pleasure" with her "Lord" [Abraham], when both are so very old. God assures her that he will return and impregnate her at the appointed time. 18:11-14 Lot refuses to give up his angels to the perverted mob, offering his two "virgin daughters" instead. He tells the bunch of angel rapers to "do unto them [his daughters] as is good in your eyes." This is the same man that is called "just" and "righteous" in 2 Pet.2:7-8. 19:8 Lot's nameless wife looks back, and God turns her into a pillar of salt. 19:26 Lot and his daughters camp out in a cave for a while. The daughters get their "just and righteous" father drunk, and have sexual intercourse with him, and each conceives and bears a son (wouldn't you know it!). 19:30-38 Honest Abe does the same "she's my sister" routine again, for the same cowardly reason. And once again, the king just couldn't resist Sarah -- even though by now she is over 90 years old. (See Gen.12:13-20 for the first, nearly identical, episode.) 20:2 God gets angry with king Abimelech, though the king hasn't even touched Sarah. He says to the king, "Behold, thou art but a dead man," and threatens to kill him and all of his people. To compensate for the crime he never committed, Abimelech gives Abraham sheep, oxen, slaves, silver, and land. Finally, after Abraham "prayed unto God," God lifts his punishment to Abimelech, "for the Lord had fast closed up all the wombs of the house of Abimelech, because of Sarah." 20:3-18 |
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Good video. Thanks for posting it. The bible is repulsive. It's obvious the majority of christians haven't read it in it's entirety. They probably haven't even read half of it. I think most just know the verses their pastors spit out.
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Good video. Thanks for posting it. The bible is repulsive. It's obvious the majority of christians haven't read it in it's entirety. They probably haven't even read half of it. I think most just know the verses their pastors spit out. Thats right. They know the good parts and rationalize the repulsive passages away. |
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Good video. Thanks for posting it. The bible is repulsive. It's obvious the majority of christians haven't read it in it's entirety. They probably haven't even read half of it. I think most just know the verses their pastors spit out. Thats right. They know the good parts and rationalize the repulsive passages away.  true
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The bible talks about being stoned on the sabbath. Yet what and why did this happen? What happened where he quoted from we are talking about when Yahweh had direct communication with Moses. He would tell him what to do. Yahweh says that rebellion is one of the most grevious sins. It is as today is deliberate to intice a fight. To over throw justice. To mock. The guy that was stoned was told he was not to pick up sticks for his fire on the sabbath after being told he clearly said so what. I do not care.. After what all he had seen.. Yahweh made an example out of him what happens when rebellion happens. rebellion spreads and causes more problems. This example of the Sabbath day was more about Rebellion than the sabbath. As Yahshua said himself. Also about adultry. King david killed and committed Adultry when confronted he did not try to hide it but was sorry and seen he was out of control. He changed. the woman they brought to yahshua. Did they bring her to him because they wanted to see justice served? No it was to trick him and he put it back on them. Whoever is without sin cast the 1st stone. That is mercy not a crazy Elohim.. On wars.. since Yahshua's time yes. I can think of none that did not have scripture involved as an excuse. But Yahshua even when he was going to be put to death falsely showed us an example. He said he is not of this world if he was armies would fight for him. This is true throughout the NT. The disciples or Apostlles you can not find anything but giving up thier life before they would take one. Did not matter who it was. That should be. But since the Council of Nicea in 325 ad and Constantines supposed conversion it has been an excuse to kill and murder and they have all the way up to this day. I do not belief history will bear out the Disciples of Yahshua picking up arms before then. then the true religion was lost in History. You can read about some of them like the Poor men of Lyons who were slaughtered by Rome 800,000 yet little is said about them by the churches. They refused to pick up arms. I do not disagree about what you see as religion today. It has been perverted and has been since 325ad. You can see this in all the movies since then that has the warriors with a cross on thier uniforn, thier Sheild with a a sword even that looked like a cross. They even went so far with the cross as a battling murderous theme that if you look closesly at the helmets the armies wore in front a little cross comes down over thier eyes. All to convince the soldiers they were doing Yahweh's work.. No they were doing JC's work.. This is one reason I refuse to have anything to do with a cross. It represents Death. Before 325 ad and constantine we do not find people wearing crosses. This is almost 300 years after the messiah's death. Constantine a heathon used the religion for his own agenda and it has come down to us even today. Stoning is a reference to Yahshua. He is our rock of Salvation.. This is a reference to Yahshua as the Stone. He also speaks of those who come against him will be dashed to pieces. Kinda like if you took a mirror you was looking in and did not like what you saw taking it and throwing it upon a cornerstone. What would happen to your reflection? Isa 28:16-19 "Behold, I lay in Zion a stone for a foundation, A tried stone, a precious cornerstone, a sure foundation; Whoever believes will not act hastily. 17 Also I will make justice the measuring line, And righteousness the plummet; The hail will sweep away the refuge of lies, And the waters will overflow the hiding place. 18 Your covenant with death will be annulled, And your agreement with Sheol will not stand; When the overflowing scourge passes through, Then you will be trampled down by it. 19 As often as it goes out it will take you; For morning by morning it will pass over, And by day and by night; It will be a terror just to understand the report." NKJV These are very important scriptures that are talking about this day we live in. More of it in the same chapter explains how terror is brought about. Stoning is the people coming against Yahweh's people. They will not stand thier words or thier ways...Shalom...Miles And the Truth will set you FREE!!! Shalom! |
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I just watched that video. Kill everyone that works on the Sabbath.
 That was pretty cool.
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everyone has their own belief
but i say NO i'd also like add hope your wrong HELL IS HOT: 
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everyone has their own belief but i say NO i'd also like add hope your wrong HELL IS HOT: And how do you know hell is hot? How do you know there is a hell? |
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So no point by point refutations? I see so much scripture posted on these forums, there was only a handful of quotes taken from the bible in that video.
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They know there is a hell because it is in the center of the earth. Thats where all the "bad people" go that work on the sabbath.
It goes Crust Mantle Outer Core Inner Core Hell |
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Edited by
Milesoftheusa
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Mon 12/29/08 06:52 PM
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So no point by point refutations? I see so much scripture posted on these forums, there was only a handful of quotes taken from the bible in that video. I believe I point to the main theme of the video. Taking thing as a fact and pretending to know what the bible says and making claims that have no merit. How much of a response do you expect. These guys have not a clue. So i went to the Killing point of view and explained how they like to twist what it says. I am not a scientist so would you give me a detailed responce if i explained to an audience the heresy and craziness of random chance? or (MC squared) is make believe? And a threat to our children those who work with such things and make out landish claims? Would you just say oh MILES is right.. What a great video? aHHH HummBuggg shalom..Miles 
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They were using actual verbatim passages from the bible. They were using both the NT and the OT.
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They know there is a hell because it is in the center of the earth. Thats where all the "bad people" go that work on the sabbath. It goes Crust Mantle Outer Core Inner Core Hell Wasn't there a movie about that, that came out not too long ago? Journey to the center of the earth. DOH. |
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Repulsive - NO
Life - Yes Love - Yes |
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