http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkXOwBIRX7Y&feature=rec-HM-rev-rn

Great vid.

For every kill the infidels in the Koran there is a kill the nonbelievers in the bible.

So no specific replies to defend what is claimed to be repulsive?

I would think this post would have lit up with people showing me the miss interpretations and translations and blah blah blah Jesus meant sour cream not cream cheese.

I think they might be sulking.

Answer to the question: No

Well most wont watch the vid they just answer the question.

That was great. Thanks for the link.

I have never read the bible, never planned on it, but I might just do so in order to see more of the repulsive words written in it. Are we sure Stephen King didn't write it?

I wasn’t able to watch the video, but I already know that the bible is repulsive. It makes both mankind and God out to be despicable.

Of course, we know that some men are despicable, but we also know that many are not. The Bible would like us to believe that all men are despicable.

The Bible is an insult to the very idea of a supreme divine mind.

The Bible claims that God is all-wise, and that he is a ‘Fatherly Image’.

Yet it goes on to claim that this God can only think in the very ignorant and unwise terms of punishment and reward. The God never truly mentors anyone. All it ever does is keep repeating the “Threat versus Reward” mentality like a moron.

Christians in particular demand that God is a hateful entity who even rejects intelligent loving people just because they don’t believe that God is a moron.

Christians demand that God is a truly ignorant heartless demon who will back their egotistical bigotry to the hilt whilst casting everyone who refuses to agree with them into the pits of hell.

In fact, that’s precisely the mentality of the authors of the Bible.

Is the Bible repulsive?

Absolutely!

It’s an utter insult to the very concept of divinity. It represents nothing more than the opinions of male-chauvinistic bigots who have blasphemed themselves by claiming that they speak for the creator of this universe.

It’s the most discussing dogma on Planet Earth. And of course that goes for the Torah and the Koran as well since they are really the same pathetic dogma with slightly different twists. It all arose from the same idiotic mythology of a self-confessed jealous egotistical Godhead.

The Bible is an insult to any intelligent human being, and would most certainly be an insult to any divine supreme being as well. If our creator is truly as stupid and ignorant as the Bible claims then there wouldn’t be much sense in worshiping it anyway. It would be perfectly understandable why 33% of this God’s angels supposedly turned and walked away in disgust.

The Biblical God is a God to pity, not to praise. Let’s all pray to the powers that be that no God exists anywhere who is as pathetic as the Bible describes.

Yes, it’s an extremely repulsive mythology.

The people who believe in this wretched mythology want to teach our children a theory of “Intelligent Design”. But that would rule out the biblical picture immediately since there is nothing intelligent about the biblical picture.

Instead of teaching our children a theory of “Intelligent Design” we should simply teach our children to be intelligent and not to buy into unsubstantiated mythologies that claim that our supreme creator is utterly stupid.

Well ain't we found something to Trump around.

Well ain't that special.

It is nice to see prophecy being fullfilled right before our eyes...

1 Peter 3:8-12

Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another; love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous; 9 not returning evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary blessing, knowing that you were called to this, that you may inherit a blessing. 10 For

"He who would love life
And see good days,
Let him refrain his tongue from evil,
And his lips from speaking deceit.
11 Let him turn away from evil and do good;
Let him seek peace and pursue it.
12 For the eyes of Yahweh are on the righteous,
And His ears are open to their prayers;
But the face of Yahweh is against those who do evil."
NKJV

Now obviously all here know i do not agree with Chr-stianity.

I believe all wars have been brought on by the bible.

The bible because men in high places miss use it does not mean the Bible is Repulsive.

This guy admits he is repulsive as the verses above clearly he did not show or does he care about.

he spoke of the Sabbath Day.

That we must be stoned. As if he is some expert on the scriptures.

Mark 2:27-28

27 And He said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. 28 Therefore the Son of Man is also master of the Sabbath."
NKJV

Yahshua is defending ans clearly saying who the Sabbath was made for.

Who came first the chicken or the egg? HUH..

NON Sence.

What this site and many others want to do is dis credit the scriptures to twist them in the exact same manner as they did in the Inquisition where 100,000's of thousands were killed because they did not believe as Rome said.

Now these guys want to get you to believe people who believe in the Bible are UNSTABLE,BLINDED, NOT TO BE LISTENED TO.

Oh yes that is the pure truth of this video and this site.

The bible and Yahweh all through is Spiritual. With worshiping as Blessings from Almighty Yahweh.

We see in the Torah and some past then that this is how wickedness is done with.

Swift justice to let the people know what is acceptable and what is not.

Our courts you all want swift justice we have strayed from that and through the trickery of man let the Rich do as they please.

If only they will appease those who "WANT TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT IN HIS OWN EYES"

What is wrong with our children today?

In 1960 the main problem in our school system was chewing gum in class.

That's what was the biggest problem.

Now nobody was stoning children then and we Prayed in school

Said the pledge of Allegience. Ect. 10 commandments up on walls.

Then came the Athiests point of view.. The Rebellious 60's that Yahweh warded about swift justice,

Well we let in unswift justice as our court system got bogged down and television started an agenda of Showing to Americans what a few wanted not the majority.

So we got thrown out what they could by the mid 70's lets say.

Did the public really know what was happening or was the view of 99% of America being distorted for 1%.

The case involving schools by an athiests fly's in the FACE OF THIS VIDEO AND WEB SITE.



They would not even think about debating anyone who is knowlegable of the Scriptures.

They know they would be exposed for what they are.

back to schools.

Main Problems.....

1960 chewing gum.

2008.. does anyone have a list that can be known. An unknown number almost.

But some of the main ones.

Murder Suicide

rape

terrorism. on and on.

NOW ANY ONE WITH ANY SENCE AT ALL IF THEY WOULD PLOT THE SCRIPTURES IN THE SCHOOLS AND THE COURT CASE THAT THE ATHIESTS WON TO START TO TAKE THEM OUT 1 BY 1 CAN ONLY COME TO ONE CONCLUSION.

That Yahweh needs to be in our schools.

looking at 1960 and how they disciplined our children in schools and taught WOULD BRING US BACK TO HAVING SAFE SCHOOLS.


NOW I ASK YOU "{ WHO REALLY IS REPULSIVE) Shalom...Miles

Can you cite your sources for this misinformation?

I happened to have been in highschool in the 1960's. There were lots of problems. One classmate of mine died from sniffing glue. Kids were always smoking ciggarettes in the boy's restroom. There were fist-fights all the time. Some of the girls got pregnant (I don't think they can get pregnant from chewing gum).

I also don't recall ever being asked to pray in class. The school that I went to was not run by religious fanatics. I guess I was truly far luckier than I realize.

There was nothing 'religious' about the highschool that I attended.

oh you mean back to the time when we discriminated against blacks?
Yeah much safer time, if you where white.
And bring only your god into the schools?
And discriminate against all the other religions?

I ASK YOU, WHO IS REPULSIVE?

I agree with Seamonster.

The teaching of Yahweh is just a cover for teaching bigotry and hatred in the name of God.

It's a horrible thing to do.

yep the easiest of prophecy . . . ohh noes they are going to poopoo my beliefs . . . Thou shalt know them by their poopoo ness. . . .
So is this really your beliefs that all wars have been over the bible? If so how could you possibly not be repulsed and disgusted by the fact that any ultimate creator cold possibly fubar sooo bad to create such a contentious POS work of fiction? The clear conclusion is that its a work of man, that there are lessons there both those to be follow and those to be learned as an understanding of the psychotic nature of mankind.

Yes such a clear word from god is soo easily twisted . . . . .

So for someone not nearly learned in the scriptures as you myself I can come away with a very different view from such a video, so please elaborate on this part for me.

Are you saying that the mentioning of stoning people who work on the sabbath is not for people?

Please explain I am truly interested!

Youtube is not yet a biased place, all video's are rated only by the viewers . . if you do not like a video please rate it poorly and refrain from watching it, or other like videos in the future, however youtube itself is more about free expression then about any given agenda.

So I completely disagree that this site is against the bible, I can find many more pro-christian video's then I can anti christian videos easily.

So I dont think that point is really correct or relevant.

Lets stick to the scripture, I am wanting to get learned on how these atrocious things should be interpreted so that I might not be so repulsed by them.

Jeremy.

I will find the source because it is a nation statistic.

And I did say 1960 not sixties as my source. You are right towards the end of the 60's is when change started happening.. I will see when that court case was for you to..Shalom...Miles

Ok, I believe you.

But this just goes to show how misleading statistics can be.

You say the "biggest problem" in our schools was chewing gum in class.

That can simply mean that more children were sent to the office for that offense than another other single offense.

So it would be misleading to say that this was the 'biggest problem'. It was simply the problem that teachers were complaining about the most.

Often times we need to take statistics with a grain of salt.

Here is an example of how absurd statistics can be:

A police department was measuring the crime rate by the number of people arrested.

They decided to cut down on crime by increasting police "protection". So they put more police on duty and instructed them to enforce the laws more vigorously.

After a trial period they looked at the stats. The stats showed that during the time when more police where on duty enforcing the law more vigiously crime actually when up!

Yes! Guess what? More people were arrested!

So they concluded that putting more police on duty does nothing to reduce crime.

What a bunch of idiots!

Statistics are only as intelligent as the people who design the studies.

The bible talks about being stoned on the sabbath.

Yet what and why did this happen?

What happened where he quoted from we are talking about when Yahweh had direct communication with Moses. He would tell him what to do.

Yahweh says that rebellion is one of the most grevious sins.

It is as today is deliberate to intice a fight. To over throw justice. To mock.

The guy that was stoned was told he was not to pick up sticks for his fire on the sabbath after being told he clearly said so what. I do not care.. After what all he had seen..

Yahweh made an example out of him what happens when rebellion happens.

rebellion spreads and causes more problems.

This example of the Sabbath day was more about Rebellion than the sabbath.

As Yahshua said himself.

Also about adultry.

King david killed and committed Adultry when confronted he did not try to hide it but was sorry and seen he was out of control. He changed.

the woman they brought to yahshua.

Did they bring her to him because they wanted to see justice served?

No it was to trick him and he put it back on them.
Whoever is without sin cast the 1st stone. That is mercy not a crazy Elohim..


On wars.. since Yahshua's time yes. I can think of none that did not have scripture involved as an excuse.

But Yahshua even when he was going to be put to death falsely showed us an example.

He said he is not of this world if he was armies would fight for him.

This is true throughout the NT. The disciples or Apostlles you can not find anything but giving up thier life before they would take one. Did not matter who it was.

That should be. But since the Council of Nicea in 325 ad and Constantines supposed conversion it has been an excuse to kill and murder and they have all the way up to this day.

I do not belief history will bear out the Disciples of Yahshua picking up arms before then. then the true religion was lost in History.

You can read about some of them like the Poor men of Lyons who were slaughtered by Rome 800,000 yet little is said about them by the churches. They refused to pick up arms.

I do not disagree about what you see as religion today. It has been perverted and has been since 325ad.

You can see this in all the movies since then that has the warriors with a cross on thier uniforn, thier Sheild with a a sword even that looked like a cross.

They even went so far with the cross as a battling murderous theme that if you look closesly at the helmets the armies wore in front a little cross comes down over thier eyes. All to convince the soldiers they were doing Yahweh's work.. No they were doing JC's work.. This is one reason I refuse to have anything to do with a cross. It represents Death. Before 325 ad and constantine we do not find people wearing crosses.

This is almost 300 years after the messiah's death. Constantine a heathon used the religion for his own agenda and it has come down to us even today.


Stoning is a reference to Yahshua. He is our rock of Salvation..

This is a reference to Yahshua as the Stone. He also speaks of those who come against him will be dashed to pieces. Kinda like if you took a mirror you was looking in and did not like what you saw taking it and throwing it upon a cornerstone. What would happen to your reflection?

Isa 28:16-19

"Behold, I lay in Zion a stone for a foundation,
A tried stone, a precious cornerstone, a sure foundation;
Whoever believes will not act hastily.
17 Also I will make justice the measuring line,
And righteousness the plummet;
The hail will sweep away the refuge of lies,
And the waters will overflow the hiding place.
18 Your covenant with death will be annulled,
And your agreement with Sheol will not stand;
When the overflowing scourge passes through,
Then you will be trampled down by it.
19 As often as it goes out it will take you;
For morning by morning it will pass over,
And by day and by night;
It will be a terror just to understand the report."
NKJV

These are very important scriptures that are talking about this day we live in. More of it in the same chapter explains how terror is brought about.

Stoning is the people coming against Yahweh's people. They will not stand thier words or thier ways...Shalom...Miles

http://www.probe.org/site/c.fdKEIMNsEoG/b.4223357/k.A71A/Do_You_Have_More_Information_on_School_Discipline_Problems.htm

This seems to me to be a good source..Shalom...Miles

Student Performance

1) American 12th graders rank 19th out of 21 industrialized countries in mathematics achievement and 16th out of 21 nations in science. Our advanced physics students rank dead last.

2) Since 1983, over 10 million Americans have reached the 12th grade without having learned to read at a basic level. Over 20 million have reached their senior year unable to do basic math. Almost 25 million have reached 12th grade not knowing the essentials of U.S. history.

3) In the same period, over six million Americans dropped out of high school altogether. In 1996, 44% of Hispanic immigrants aged 16-24 were not in school and did not hold a diploma.

4) In the fourth grade, 77% of children in urban high-poverty schools are reading “below basic” on the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP).

5) Currently, average black and Hispanic 17-year-old children have NAEP scores in math, science, reading and writing that are equivalent to average white 13-year-old children.

School Spending and Use of Resources

6) Average per-pupil spending in U.S. public schools rose 212% from 1960 to 1995 in real (i.e. inflation-adjusted) dollars.

7) In 1960, for every U.S. public school teacher there were approximately 26 students enrolled in the schools. In 1995, there were 17.

8) In 1994, fewer than 50% of the personnel employed by U.S. public schools were teachers.

9) The average salary of U.S. public school teachers rose 45% in real dollars from 1960 to 1995.

Readiness for College and Work

10) In 1995, nearly 30% of first-time college freshmen enrolled in at least one remedial course and 80% of all public four-year universities offered remedial courses.

11) According to U.S. manufacturers, 40% of all 17-year-olds do not have the math skills and 60% lack the reading skills to hold down a production job at a manufacturing company.

12) 76% of college professors and 63% of employers believe that “a high school diploma is no guarantee that the typical student has learned the basics.”

Teacher Quality

13) Only 38% of U.S. public school teachers majored in an academic subject in college.

14) 40% of public high school science teachers have neither an undergraduate major nor minor in their main teaching field and 34% of public high school math teachers did not major or minor in math or related fields.

15) Only one in five teachers feels well prepared to teach to high academic standards.

Student Behavior

16) In 1996, 64% of high school seniors reported doing less than one hour of homework per night.

17) 57% of public schools reported moderate to serious discipline problems in the 1996-97 school year.

The Federal Role

18) In Florida, it takes six times as many people to administer a federal education dollar as a state dollar: 297 state employees are responsible for $1 billion in federal funds while 374 employees oversee $7 billion in state funds.

19) In Arizona, 45% of the staff of the state education department are responsible for managing federal programs that account for six percent of the state’s education spending.

20) After spending $118 billion since 1965 on Title I, the federal government’s largest K-12 program, evaluations conclude that the “program has been unable to lift [the] academic level of poor students.”

1 - Pursuing Excellence: A Study of U.S. Twelfth-Grade Mathematics and Science Achievement in International Context (Washington, DC: U.S. Department of Education, National Center for Education Statistics, February 1998).

2 - A Nation Still at Risk: An Education Manifesto (Washington, DC: April 30, 1998) (see www.edexcellence.net).

3 - Ibid.

4 - Quality Counts ’98: The Urban Challenge (Washington, DC: Editorial Projects in Education, January 8, 1998).

5 - Larry Stedman, "An Assessment of the Contemporary Debate over U.S. Achievement," in Brookings Papers on Education Policy 1998 (Washington, DC: The Brookings Institution, 1998).

6 - Digest of Education Statistics 1997, table 39.

7 - Digest of Education Statistics 1997, figure 8.

8 - Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), Education at a Glance: OECD Indicators (Paris, OECD, 1995), table p31.

9 - Digest of Education Statistics 1997, table 39.

10 - David W. Breneman, “Remediation in Higher Education: Its Extent and Cost,” in Brookings Papers on Education Policy 1998 (Washington, DC: The Brookings Institution, 1998).

11 - Education and Training for America’s Future (Washington, DC: National Association of Manufacturers, January 1998).

12 - Reality Check (New York: Public Agenda, January 1998).

13 - Teacher Quality: A Report on the Preparation and Qualifications of Public School Teachers (Washington, DC: U.S. Department of Education, National Center for Education Statistics, January 1999).

14 - America’s Teachers: Profile of a Profession, 1993-1994 (Washington, DC: US Department of Education, National Center for Education Statistics, July 1997).

15 - Teacher Quality: A Report on the Preparation and Qualifications of Public School Teachers (Washington, DC: U.S. Department of Education, National Center for Education Statistics, January 1999).

16 - Digest of Education Statistics 1997.

17 - Marci Kanstoroom and Chester E. Finn, Jr., ed., New Directions: Federal Education Policy in the Twenty-First Century (Washington, DC: Thomas B. Fordham Foundation, March 1999).

18 - Prospects for Reform: The State of American Education and the Federal Role (Washington, DC: U.S. Senate Budget Committee Task Force on Education, 1998).

19 - Lisa Graham Keegan, “Back Off, Washington,” in Marci Kanstoroom and Chester E. Finn, Jr., ed., New Directions: Federal Education Policy in the Twenty-First Century (Washington, DC: Thomas B. Fordham Foundation, March 1999).

20 - Ralph Frammolino, “Title I’s $118 Billion Fails to Close Gap,” Los Angeles Times, January 17, 1999.

If anyone gets bored, try Googling "Bible Scatology".

Decorum (and probably Mingle 2s Terms of Use) prohibits listing some of the results obtained in this forum.


-Kerry O.

Here is a good source if anyone cares to read about our schools. Lots of stuff

http://www.edexcellence.net/issues/results.cfm?withall=statistics+schools&search_btn.x=37&search_btn.y=13

Wow, I did google it. Found a very interesting site.

Here is the site I went to.

http://www.mwillett.org/atheism/scat.htm

BTW, nothing graphic or no pictures.