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Topic: Witchcraft and Shamanism
AndyBgood's photo
Sun 12/28/08 01:38 PM
Hey, don't overlook the Spartans! Granted they were a warrior culture but the women trained to fight as well. Also in Samurai culture women likewise studied and trained to fight. The women may have looked sedate and timid but they were competent fighters and also excellent marksmen with bows. Geisha were the helpless ones. Also women warriors were (and still are) common in the wildest parts of the Amazon jungle. Likewise I have known women who are warriors in every regard and underestimating them would result in a lot more than a bruised male ego.
Women bashing and putting women in their place began to occur thanks to the Catholic Church. There are forgotten African societies that were matriarchal as well.
I personally feel all of us have a long way to go before we truly understand the concept of treating each other equally. Men tend to fear loosing control. But from a male perspective we are geared differently from women. It is a foolish man who disrespects the Goddess for as we come from our mothers we are as much a part of women are as women are a part of us. We are two parts of the whole and once in a while we manage to come together and form the perfect union for what time we have on this earth and we know joy. Conversely because we are different we also have moments of personal adversity we either have to overcome, cope with, or part ways.
Then comes the ultimate insult, we can spend our life times not understanding true happiness only to realize too late what we had and then we die! We live in an imperfect world though. Strength tends to win out. That is where the Goddess's strength is, she is subtle. She is a gentle breeze that sneaks up on us unseen and unheard and yet she is also all around us. She cannot be controlled or commanded. She also gets her way no matter what.
Count on that...:wink:

Abracadabra's photo
Sun 12/28/08 01:52 PM


Well, this certainly doesn't appear to be depicting a real battle.

The woman appears to be wearing chainmail lingerie, whilst the male stands there completely naked holding his sheild behind his back.

The woman is about to poke his pee pee with her javelin.

I think it's some kind of sexual fantasy. An early form of BDSM. laugh

Krimsa's photo
Sun 12/28/08 02:07 PM
Well maybe yet that would be taking it pretty far. I noticed also that the female had the lance right at pee pee level. Im starting to see why these men refused battle with these tribes specifically. If they were predominantly female warriors, you know dam well they were pee pee hunting. The men probably went after their boobies also. Im sure it went to both extremes. Well the Greeks claimed that some of these women cut off a boob in order to use the bow and arrow correctly so their archers probably had one breast.

Either way, this appears to be bad news for men on many levels. It appeals to their sexual weakness while they were being cut to pieces.

Krimsa's photo
Sun 12/28/08 02:39 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Sun 12/28/08 02:41 PM
Another thing here.

Boudicca, Queen of the Iceni, led a revolt against the Roman military in AD 60-61. She was a Celtic Queen and led an army of untrained Celtics against Roman Centurions. These battles are thought to be some of the bloodiest in history and led by a woman.

The Iceni were a Celtic tribe living in Norfolk and Suffolk in eastern Britain. Near the end of this period, following the Roman invasion of Britain under Claudius in AD 43, king Prasutagus (AD 50-60) became a rich and powerful client of the Romans. After his death, however, the Roman administrators in Britain made the Iceni a subject population.

Boudicca, widow of Prasutagus, now became queen of the Iceni. After she and her two daughters were subjected to grave humiliations by the Romans, she led a revolt of the Iceni and several other tribes which lasted for several months in 60-61. The Boudiccan forces burned and destoyed the three major towns of Londinium (London), Verulamium (St. Albans), and Camulodunum (Colchester), killing many thousands of citizens.




AndyBgood's photo
Sun 12/28/08 03:51 PM
There was an African Queen with one eye that also defeated the Romans constantly. She was why the Romans never got any further south than they did.

Also Ghengis Kahn was a serious mamma's boy. It is a historical joke that she actually ruled the Mongolian Empire. For as mighty of a ruler as he was it was recorded that if she glared at him in disapproval he would cower but in the face of other men he was different.

Likewise Egypt has had its share of Matriarchal leadership as well. At least three times in their history rule fell exclusively to women.

Queen Elizabeth never married. I am baffled why people do not think women to be competent leaders.

AndyBgood's photo
Sun 12/28/08 04:01 PM



Well, this certainly doesn't appear to be depicting a real battle.

The woman appears to be wearing chainmail lingerie, whilst the male stands there completely naked holding his sheild behind his back.

The woman is about to poke his pee pee with her javelin.

I think it's some kind of sexual fantasy. An early form of BDSM. laugh


Actually the Greeks did fight without clothing on as a way to intimidate their opponents. Combat wise where she is aiming for with her javelin would not only be a sure death but a slow and painful one as well.
Please keep in mind when talking about the Classical Greek Culture that women were for breeding, boys were for pleasure. The Spartans encouraged homosexuality among their ranks because men fight harder for the ones they love. Conversely homosexual sex was not acceptable openly unless it was for educational purposes. The Greeks were also very bestial in aspect as well in their sex lives. There is Greek art involving that subject in all of its splendor of Greek art. Trust me. The classical Greek culture makes us look sexually repressed.
It is also possible that the idea of a Manly woman may have been very appealing to a Classic Greek.
Also there could be a hidden metaphor in the art as well. The men are naked and more savage in aspect while the women are wearing armor and riding horses. It could be also that the Amazon attribute is being honored in that they are shown as more refined than the men. I love all teh possibilities with art.

Abracadabra's photo
Sun 12/28/08 04:53 PM
The Power of Vibrational Frequencies

I just realized something quite interesting tonight. I'm praticing shamanic drumming techniques and I've been recording myself playing the drums.

I'm using a set of bongos that has a 6" drum and a 7" drum. The beat I've been practicing alternates back and forth between these bass and treble drums.

Now the interesting thing is that after recording the drumming I played it back, but I still had the drums tucked between my legs. I suddenly realized that each drum would vibrate with it's own resonant frequency when it was being played on the recording.

I studied this further by placing my fingertips lightly against the drum heads and sure enough I could feel the skins vibrating back and forth first the bass then the treble drum as I was playing these drums back and forth on the recording.

I think that's kind of interesting and does indeed speak to the truth of the power of vibrations. When vibrations are in sync with an object that object clearly resonates with the energy of it's frequency.

This is certainly nothing knew to science. As a physicist I have long since been aware of this phenomenon as it is the very principle of radio as well as many other physical processes.

But for some reason sitting here tonight with these drums just really brought up the significance of this. Everything does indeed have its own frequency or frequencies that it vibrates at, and when it encounters that frequency energy is indeed exchanged.

I'm still trying to tune into the frequencies of my selenite crystals.

No luck yet, but someday,...

Krimsa's photo
Sun 12/28/08 05:26 PM

There was an African Queen with one eye that also defeated the Romans constantly. She was why the Romans never got any further south than they did.


Who? Can you offer us an account?

Also Ghengis Kahn was a serious mamma's boy.


And that means?

It is a historical joke that she actually ruled the Mongolian Empire.


Who actually ruled the Mongolian Empire?

For as mighty of a ruler as he was it was recorded that if she glared at him in disapproval he would cower but in the face of other men he was different.


Who? What?

Likewise Egypt has had its share of Matriarchal leadership as well. At least three times in their history rule fell exclusively to women.


Yes this is true, especially Pre-Dynastic Egypt.

Queen Elizabeth never married.


Queen Elizabeth never married because if she had so, it would have been one of those other European princes like of Spain or France or another nation. Whos giving over the goddamn thrown of England to some idiot? What if she had died in childbirth? That is what she was afraid of. A prince (if she had born a son) would have taken over the thrown. Thats crap.

I am baffled why people do not think women to be competent leaders.


Women are perfectly fine as military leaders, when they are put into a position of no other recourse.

Ruth34611's photo
Sun 12/28/08 05:40 PM

Ruth some more of those Amazon images. Of course male historians argued that these were nothing more than the "playboy sexual fantasies" of the day and women like this did not exist outside of the realm of sexual fantasy.

I dont know about that They look pretty rough and obviously in combat with these men. That sounds like a load of crap.



Yes, that sounds like a load of crap to me too because if it was a sexual fantasy the girls wouldn't look so strong.

Ruth34611's photo
Sun 12/28/08 06:17 PM

The Power of Vibrational Frequencies

I just realized something quite interesting tonight. I'm praticing shamanic drumming techniques and I've been recording myself playing the drums.

I'm using a set of bongos that has a 6" drum and a 7" drum. The beat I've been practicing alternates back and forth between these bass and treble drums.

Now the interesting thing is that after recording the drumming I played it back, but I still had the drums tucked between my legs. I suddenly realized that each drum would vibrate with it's own resonant frequency when it was being played on the recording.

I studied this further by placing my fingertips lightly against the drum heads and sure enough I could feel the skins vibrating back and forth first the bass then the treble drum as I was playing these drums back and forth on the recording.

I think that's kind of interesting and does indeed speak to the truth of the power of vibrations. When vibrations are in sync with an object that object clearly resonates with the energy of it's frequency.

This is certainly nothing knew to science. As a physicist I have long since been aware of this phenomenon as it is the very principle of radio as well as many other physical processes.

But for some reason sitting here tonight with these drums just really brought up the significance of this. Everything does indeed have its own frequency or frequencies that it vibrates at, and when it encounters that frequency energy is indeed exchanged.

I'm still trying to tune into the frequencies of my selenite crystals.

No luck yet, but someday,...


Interesting, James.

AndyBgood's photo
Sun 12/28/08 07:04 PM
OK...
Women of note around 300 AD
Zenobia
Dehiyya al-Kahina malkat Afriqah
Majaji, about 350 AD
But the woman I am thinking about is
Candace (pronounced can-DAH-say) Roman nickname “one-eyed virago”. She was the one that really whipped on the Romans badly in Africa. Both she and Majaji were BAD BAD BAD news to face on the battle field.
Rome found out the hard way...

Now as far as the English court went... The power struggles that went on were family killing family over who got to rule.
England's royal family had no honor other than through might and putting a knife in the back of the other first. King Henry the VIII was a syphilitic murderer. Queen Mary was a NOTORIOUS thief and liar stealing a lot of art treasures from people both in her country and abroad. I could go on like what happened to those poor highlanders and how early on England pissed off the wrong people taking the Pope's war to the Vikings and England almost got its back side handed to it if it were not for them paying a huge tax to exist to them. Not having children out of fear of them "Taking" the throne shows how "evolved" they were. Smacks way too much of the same paranoia that king Herod suffered from...

Rule affects men and women the same. AS a king I would expect my kids to learn to pass on my throne to them when it is time and not worry about them getting ambitious. A house built on respect lasts far longer than one where the family line dies with a woman who carries the line. This is irrespective of who carries the family name. The fact is that children are part of the greater whole of what we are part of and people who try to disrupt nature really bug me to no end. People try to believe they are Gods and a little power goes right to their heads.

I hope I am not coming off offensively. It is not my intention. I see a lot of "men this and women that" and I really would like to see a little more "us" once in a while from the respect of us all riding in the same boat in life and "us verses them" thinking gets nobody anywhere.

I almost think that your comments about Ghengis Kahn are cynical. I do not blow smoke up anybody's skirts. I actually appreciate history because we keep repeating it! I appreciate knowledge because it frees me. I embrace diversity because it strengthens us. And most of all I value love most of all. It is the one thing that gets us through the most trying of obstacles we face in life. It is one of the most beautiful and dangerous of emotions. Love can make us do the impossible and also the horrible. That and it is what really sets us apart from lesser animals. Part of the problem is as a species we sure don't act any better...

Krimsa's photo
Sun 12/28/08 07:29 PM


Ruth some more of those Amazon images. Of course male historians argued that these were nothing more than the "playboy sexual fantasies" of the day and women like this did not exist outside of the realm of sexual fantasy.

I dont know about that They look pretty rough and obviously in combat with these men. That sounds like a load of crap.



Yes, that sounds like a load of crap to me too because if it was a sexual fantasy the girls wouldn't look so strong.


Thats what I was thinking also. Those women dont resemble anything like "porn" of the day which Im sure they had, both male and female (Since it was Greeks.)

AndyBgood's photo
Sun 12/28/08 07:42 PM


Now as far as the English court went... The power struggles that went on were family killing family over who got to rule.
England's royal family had no honor other than through might and putting a knife in the back of the other first. King Henry the VIII was a syphilitic murderer. Queen Mary was a NOTORIOUS thief and liar stealing a lot of art treasures from people both in her country and abroad. I could go on like what happened to those poor highlanders and how early on England pissed off the wrong people taking the Pope's war to the Vikings and England almost got its back side handed to it if it were not for them paying a huge tax to exist to them. Not having children out of fear of them "Taking" the throne shows how "evolved" they were. Smacks way too much of the same paranoia that king Herod suffered from...

I am amending this partially. I did read that part of Queen Elizabeth's problem was she feared death from Child Birth thanks to the earlier inbreeding of the English noble line. I also have read she was suspected to have had a family disease also preventing her from having child birth. Syphilis ran RAMPANT in the English court along with homosexuality galore. If she was born with Siph then she most certainly could not have children at all. I am certain there were other motivations. Heck, even the ice queen Victoria who brought us "Proper" virtues and clothing reminiscent of a Burkka short of the actual mask had a child. Victoria was the one that wanted us to completely cover our bodies. I happen to not see myself as perfect but so what? I don't see eye to eye with Victorian ideals but at least Queen Victoria was not so prudish to fear living in any way and she was a mother. Could you trust another woman's judgement and advice in Family values if she is not herself a mother? There are realities in life a mother has to face raising kids that a woman who has not had kids can only half heartedly relate to. Then again maybe I still think a little too "Tribally." It is one thing to be a leader but to be one who understands the fundamentals is more trustworthy and it all comes down to us all being a big family.
Early England was just a messed up place. What they did to the Druids in the name of Christianity and Christ was easy to do to peace loving people. I find it strange how some people are such total anglofiles. The common thought is how civilized they are and how cultured but what of the English history do they really know? What about the War of the Roses? Was that family love or what. Nothing like beheading naughty relatives...

I know! I know! I don't fart sunshine.

I just try hard to be straight with people.

Living is my religion!

Krimsa's photo
Sun 12/28/08 07:46 PM
My understanding is that Queen Elizabeth did not want to give up the throne to any prince from another European nation. If she had married, a King would have taken the thrown of England from her. That is why she remained a virgin (though she had suitors) She did not want to give birth to a son (she might have died) and if she had a boy, that son would take the thrown.

Serenity1971's photo
Sun 12/28/08 09:12 PM

The Power of Vibrational Frequencies

I'm still trying to tune into the frequencies of my selenite crystals.

No luck yet, but someday,...


Sorry James I couldn't quote the whole thing since I can only give you input on crystals (one of my specialties) I work with them all the time. The only thing I do know is that bongo drums are on a low to mid range frequency, and they are great for doing circles.

The frequencies of selenite crystals is very high. They are a protective as well as cleansing stones. If you look back to the way things were around you before you acquired it and look at things since you've acquired it, you'll probably notice many changes that you may not have realized.

I'm ot sure how much you know about this particular crystal or crystals in general, so in case you don't....

Whatever you do, don't wash the crystal. It loses it's pure energy if you do. To cleanse it put it outside in the moonlight at the full moon. Put it out at sunrise the morning of and then bring it in at sunrise the morning after to charge it as well as cleanse it. Set it where it can receive the most moonlight yet not where it will be disturbed by anything.


Ruth34611's photo
Sun 12/28/08 09:28 PM

Whatever you do, don't wash the crystal. It loses it's pure energy if you do.


I didn't know this.

Serenity1971's photo
Sun 12/28/08 09:39 PM
Edited by Serenity1971 on Sun 12/28/08 09:46 PM


Whatever you do, don't wash the crystal. It loses it's pure energy if you do.


I didn't know this.


Yes...You have to be very careful with which ones you wash due to the properties of the crystals. Some can actually disintegrate into sand if you wash them.

All crystals can be cleansed using moonlight, it just depends on the time of year and where you are due to leaving it out during the daylight. For instance...You don't want to cleanse a quartz crystal in the middle of the summer near something that catches fire. The sun will make it hot enough to start a fire where it is or where the sun reflects through it. Though quartz crystal can be washed in sea salt and water, it still needs to be recharged through moonlight and earth. Which goes for many of them.


AndyBgood's photo
Sun 12/28/08 10:32 PM


The Power of Vibrational Frequencies

I'm still trying to tune into the frequencies of my selenite crystals.

No luck yet, but someday,...



Selenite is the same material that makes up wall board and is a salt crystal of sorts. It is soluble in water. I have a piece of it I found on the coast of Palos Verdes CA. Would not quartz be a better choice or is Seklenite needed specifically for a particular ritual?
Tourmaline happens to be very powerful. When heated it gives of an mild electric charge.
If you are trying to tune something as soft as Selenite you have to be VERY careful. It is very soft and damages easily. I would think setting it in the sun from morning to sunset in a place where it can get uninterrupted sunlight would help. Placing a load stone tactically near it might do the trick as well. Like any crystal they do have an orientation. Depending on the Selenite sample you may not have it oriented the right way in relation to the application of force when purifying and tuning it. Water for any reason around Selenite is BAD and a big NO NO!

Abracadabra's photo
Sun 12/28/08 10:46 PM
Whatever you do, don't wash the crystal. It loses it's pure energy if you do. To cleanse it put it outside in the moonlight at the full moon. Put it out at sunrise the morning of and then bring it in at sunrise the morning after to charge it as well as cleanse it. Set it where it can receive the most moonlight yet not where it will be disturbed by anything.


Oh goodie, a crystal expert. :smile:

I bought two very large selenite crystals. I wasn't paying attention when I purchased them. I was going to use them for wand tips. But when I got them they were huge. They are at least 2 inches in diameter and about 4 inches tall. They are heavy! They feel like a 5-lb. bag of sugar. I never weighed them but it's going to be close to that.

This is what they look like:


Anyway, I read up on they and discovered quite by accident that selenite crystals are supposed to be good for inducing lucid dreams. So I've placed them on the headboard of my bed. One to the right and one to the left.

My place does have a habit of getting quite dusty. And I would normally wash something like these crystals off. So if that grounds them then maybe that's not a good idea. Although if I can recharge them it seems to me that grounding them wouldn't hurt.

In any case, should I maybe put covers over them during the day to keep the dust off and just uncover them at night when I go to sleep?

The other thing I was thinking about was building light boxes for them and illuminate them at night. At first I was thinking of doing this just for the visual appeal. But then I read where putting crystals on light boxes is supposed to excite them and give them energy to transform into their own wavelength.

I have been going through some changes since I've bought. But then again, when I am not going through changes? laugh

I feel a deep-seated urge to become more organized and more productive. But then again, I think I actually felt that way about becoming involved with witchcraft which is one of the reasons I bought the crystals in the first place.

I also have a very nice quartz crystal that I want to use as a wand tip. I've been keeping it in the cloth bag it came in for now.



Finally, I bought some polished amethyst stones.



I have no clue why. laugh

The just called to me.

I have an intuitive desire to incorporate them into the handle of magic wand. I haven't even picked out a branch to use as a handle yet, although I have my eye on a knurly one. I just need to cut it off the tree and get to work making the magic wand. I'm not sure precisely how to attach the quartz tip. I don't like the idea of gluing it on. I was thinking about making a wire frame (or a leather lace) to strap it onto the handle.

I would like to learn how to make decent crystal wands. I'm hoping to make several wands to give to other witches, but I ordered the wrong crystals. laugh

Not to fear, I'm ordering some quartz tips as we speak.

Abracadabra's photo
Mon 12/29/08 02:10 AM
I'm starting to draw on the right side of my brain. bigsmile

I did four drawings of stuff I had laying around the house. They parot and the fish were drawn from ceramic statues.

http://www.csonline.net/designer/abra/draw001.htm


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