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Topic: Witchcraft and Shamanism
Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 12:24 PM



Is here a sign post anywhere?
I lost my way and nearly landed in the wrong thread embarassed


Does really matter?

No matter where you go you will always in invisible to us. tongue2





well, that's definitely not invisible. laugh

Abracadabra's photo
Fri 12/26/08 12:36 PM



Anyone who thinks the Mooning Goddess isn't real, hasn't been to the Witchcraft and Shamanism thread.

bigsmile

Krimsa's photo
Fri 12/26/08 12:37 PM
The moons out tonight I see. laugh

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Fri 12/26/08 02:17 PM

Krimsa's photo
Fri 12/26/08 02:22 PM
That was my mental imagery of the word "Paganism" That photo exactly. happy

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Fri 12/26/08 02:27 PM
I'm glad you like it.smile2

causality's photo
Fri 12/26/08 02:55 PM
so does anyone else here actively try to alter reality?

Abracadabra's photo
Fri 12/26/08 03:15 PM
Alter reality?

You'd need to be more specific.

I personally think in terms of transformations.

I'm always transforming things, but I've been doing this all my life. Long before I learned that some people call it 'magick'. bigsmile

To me, the word magick and the word alchemy mean precisely the same thing. I've been an alchemist all my life. Although I must confess that recently I've discovered a few neat tricks that enable me to perform alchemy more efficiently. :wink:

The very term "alter reality" sounds strange to me. I have never 'altered reality' and wouldn't think that would even be possible.

So before I could answer your question I'd need to know how you define 'reality'. Then I can tell you whether or not I've been successful in altering that.

Krimsa's photo
Fri 12/26/08 03:16 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Fri 12/26/08 03:41 PM
so does anyone else here actively try to alter reality?


I dont. I try to focus my energy on achieving my goals but I would hardly refer to that as "altering reality." I am more involved with herbal medicines. Im more of a naturalist, left brain dominant type. happy Altering reality sounds ridiculously dangerous and not really a good idea.

Abracadabra's photo
Fri 12/26/08 03:39 PM
By the way, that is a pretty picture of the witches Invisible.

I can't wait to learn how to paint! I want to do my own fantasy pictures. I'm working on this Right-Brain drawing book. bigsmile

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 03:46 PM
Invisible, I LOVE that picture. Very beautiful. :heart:

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 03:47 PM

so does anyone else here actively try to alter reality?


Do you mean spells?

Abracadabra's photo
Fri 12/26/08 04:20 PM


so does anyone else here actively try to alter reality?


Do you mean spells?


That's what I mean by not understanding what he means by 'altering reality'.

I've learned how to obtain energy from objects, both living and seemingly inanimate. Would that be considered 'altering reality'?

I don't think of it that way myself. Reality hasn't been 'altered'. It's just a transference of energy that is quite natural actually. It's just that most people aren't aware of how to do it, so they might view it as being 'unnatural'.

If they view it as being 'unnatural' then they might see what I do as 'altering reality' simply because they don't understand reality.

It's just an 'alteration' of what they consider 'reality' to be.

This is why a specific example is almost required before I can say whether or not I can (or have tried) to do that specific thing.

I haven't flown on a broom physically yet. But I have flown on one astrally. :smile:

Although I think a lot of people may actually have difficulty doing the latter.

I've also summoned spirits. Although up to this point they have all been alive. If I summon a dead one I'm not sure what owl do with it. Probably bury it or cremate it. bigsmile

I also create my own reality every day, so in that sense I've been 'altering reality' since birth.

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 04:24 PM

I've also summoned spirits. Although up to this point they have all been alive. If I summon a dead one I'm not sure what owl do with it. Probably bury it or cremate it. bigsmile



What do you mean by dead and alive spirits?

causality's photo
Fri 12/26/08 04:25 PM
Edited by causality on Fri 12/26/08 04:25 PM
i just meant changing things in the real world that everyone else is also experiencing. like using the law of attraction, or predetermining games of chance. I have also channeled spirits extensively. I've become quite the source for demonology.

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 04:26 PM
Spell casting isn't so much about altering reality as it is about changing the direction of the reality you are currently living.

causality's photo
Fri 12/26/08 04:33 PM
wisely put Ruth.

Krimsa's photo
Fri 12/26/08 04:47 PM

i just meant changing things in the real world that everyone else is also experiencing. like using the law of attraction, or predetermining games of chance. I have also channeled spirits extensively. I've become quite the source for demonology.


No, I have never attempted to summon a spirit or anything of that nature. As far as games of chance are concerned and predicting the outcomes. for several years I was attempting to master card counting in Blackjack 21. I was trying to determine when I had a likely advantage. I would track the ratio of low to high cards. I got pretty good at it and even played in Harrah's in Reno. Thats not really using any kind of spell craft though and is simply calculating a probable advantage in your head. I did want to make a gri gri bag to help but Im thinking I should not try to do this again. :wink: happy

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 04:48 PM

wisely put Ruth.


Well, it sounds like we are all talking about the same thing with different terminology. JB uses the Law of Attraction, I use spells, James does what he does (don't ask him, he'll fill up 10 pages explaining it :wink:) and Krimsa does what she does which I suspect is similar to what I do.

How's that for a summary? laugh

Abracadabra's photo
Fri 12/26/08 05:11 PM
Edited by Abracadabra on Fri 12/26/08 05:22 PM

What do you mean by dead and alive spirits?


An alive spirit would be a spirit of someone who is currently alive.

A dead spirit would be the spirit of a person who has died.

Although, it's a bit of a misnomer to refer to a spirit as being dead since spirit cannot die.

I guess I'll have to work on my terminology. :wink:

I'm working on the beginning of my Book of Shadows and I'm finding it extremely enlightening just to write it.

But it's also extremely difficult to write. I knew it would be this way, and this is why I plan on writing a brand new Book of Shadows every year.

I wonder how many other people have done that? I think a lot of people write a Book of Shadows almost as if it's supposed to be an ever-lasting dogma.

James does what he does (don't ask him, he'll fill up 10 pages explaining it)


Yep, I'm writing a book on it. :wink:

In fact, two books, because I truly see Witchcraft and Shamanism as two entirely different concepts, related, yet distinctly different.

I need to write a Book of Shadows for each concept seperately to avoid the massive confusion that would be created if I attempted to combine them into one.

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