Topic: 60 Absolutely Infallible Indesputable Proofs That God Exist
Abracadabra's photo
Thu 12/04/08 03:14 PM
It's just so true.

I believe that we are all eternal spirit.

I'll be more than glad to share my beliefs with anyone who is interested in hearing about them.

But hey, if you aren't interested no problem!

It's this horrible proselytizers who are trying to ram their personal faith-based beliefs down everyone else's throats that make religion such a horrible thing.

Let's face it, all that religion amounts to is arguing with the Christians over their insistence that their beliefs RULE.

It's disgusting.

And its such a never-ending hassle.

I couldn't care less if they want to worship a religion that says that all men are disgusting failures of their creator. Fine, go ahead and believe such a dismal picture. But don't try to push it on me or my children. It's a pathetic picture! ohwell

martymark's photo
Thu 12/04/08 03:21 PM
You all be nice now, God is watching you!

Mayhem_J's photo
Thu 12/04/08 03:31 PM

You all be nice now, God is watching you!


Who?

Krimsa's photo
Thu 12/04/08 03:33 PM

You all be nice now, God is watching you!


Clearly thats proof that god exists.

laugh

Mayhem_J's photo
Thu 12/04/08 03:39 PM


You all be nice now, God is watching you!


Clearly thats proof that god exists.

laugh


Holy cow man...I can see clearly now.

Seamonster's photo
Thu 12/04/08 04:11 PM
Very true.

That is great.:smile:

no photo
Thu 12/04/08 07:02 PM


I didn't bother to read it.


Your missing a good laugh...lol.


Brevity is the soul of wit.

Krimsa's photo
Thu 12/04/08 07:06 PM



I didn't bother to read it.


Your missing a good laugh...lol.


Brevity is the soul of wit.


Im normally that way also when someone copies and pastes something that is too long but I started to read the first couple and they are funny and dead on balls accurate. Ive heard these arguments in the GR forum. happy

GuitarManager's photo
Thu 12/04/08 07:07 PM
If it does turn out that a "God" exists, a supreme being created us then wouldn't this being just be a space alien? And if we're too complicated to have come about by evolution that we must have been created then doesn't the same argument apply to your God? The Sumerians could have been right.

Krimsa's photo
Thu 12/04/08 07:08 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Thu 12/04/08 07:09 PM
The bible is just a rip off from the Sumerians anyway.

GuitarManager's photo
Thu 12/04/08 07:24 PM
I've heard a lot of arguments 30 and 39 around here. My ex girlfriend used arguments 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 14, 21, 24, 49 and 58 on me. We only discussed it the once. We agreed not to argue about it and respect each other's views.

Krimsa's photo
Thu 12/04/08 07:25 PM
Whats your view?

JasmineInglewood's photo
Thu 12/04/08 07:48 PM
61
ARGUMENT FROM OTHERWISE UNACHIEVABLE DENIAL
(1) I have faith in the Bible despite the fact that it endlessly contradicts common sense, the laws of nature, the sciences, a Himalayan Mountain of facts, and of course itself.
(2) Such titanic denial could never be achieved by mere mortals alone.
(3) Therefore, God exists

62
ARGUMENT FROM BOXING DEFEAT, a.k.a. EVANDER HOLYFIELD ARGUMENT I
(1) I prayed to Jesus for help in knocking out my opponent.
(2) I lost.
(3) Therefore God wanted me to learn something / build character and / or God works in mysterious ways.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

63
ARGUMENT FROM BOXING VICTORY, a.k.a. EVANDER HOLYFIELD ARGUMENT II
(1) I prayed to Jesus for help in knocking out my opponent.
(2) Having worked for years and years with the best trainers in the business, I beat my opponent, whom I was heavily favored to beat anyhow.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

64
ARGUMENT FROM CLOTHING
(1) Fundie: "Why do you wear clothes?"
(2) Atheist: "It is cold, I like having pockets for stuff, my body isn't too neat to look at, and most of all, I would be arrested and forced to clothe myself anyway."
(3) Fundie: "No. You wear clothes because Adam and Eve sinned and were kicked out of the Garden of Eden and made ashamed of their nakedness."
(4) Atheist: "What about primitive societies where the natives go bare-assed without embarrassment?"
(5) Fundie: "The word of God hasn't reached them."
(6) Therefore, God exists.

65
ARGUMENT FROM POSITIVE DIVINE JUSTICE, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM NECESSARY FAIRNESS
(1) If there is no God, then the death of a little girl would be unfair.
(2) It's also just not fair that so many millions of people suffer every day of their lives.
(3) There's got to be more to life than the veil of tears we experience.
(4) Our sense of justice demands that these wrongs be righted.
(5) Only God could do that.
(6) Therefore, God exists.

65
ARGUMENT FROM NECESSARY FAITH
(1) It is impossible to prove the existence of God.
(2) Proof denies faith.
(3) Faith is necessary.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

66
ARGUMENT FROM PLAYGROUND SOCIAL DYNAMICS
(1) The public school system is overwhelmingly populated by Christian kids.
(2) If you raise your kid as an atheist, he will get beaten up a lot.
(3) No, this is NOT a reason to be angry at Christians. It is a reason to become one.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

67
ARGUMENT FROM INDIA (ASYMMETRIC)
(1) Mother Theresa's compassion and voluntary poverty prove that her Christianity is the true religion.
(2) No, Gandhi's compassion and voluntary poverty do NOT prove that his Hinduism is the true religion.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

68
ARGUMENT FROM LIGHT SWITCH
(1) My husband slowly died of cancer.
(2) But the light switch in the cellar somehow started working properly again, and to my knowledge my husband hadn't fixed it before he died.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

69
ARGUMENT FROM ENTHUSIASTIC GOSPEL MUSIC a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM BLUES BROTHERS
(1) When I go to church, people dance, sing, and clap.
(2) It's fun. I like dancing, singing and clapping.
(3) Also, the youth group gets ice cream and cookies from the collection money!
(4) I like ice cream and cookies.
(5) Therefore, God exists.

70
ARGUMENT FROM SALEM WITCH TRIALS
(1) The Bible says, "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."
(2) So we killed them.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

71
ARGUMENT FROM OVERSTRESSED TEACHING ASSISTANT
(1) I have to write two papers and grade a hundred.
(2) There's no possible way I can get all of this work done!
(3) [16-hour working frenzy]
(4) I got it all done! God must have helped me!
(5) Therefore, God exists.

72
ARGUMENT FROM ANGER
(1) Jesus came to bring peace, and there's not a word in the Bible that says otherwise.
(2) [Atheist quotes the "I came not to bring peace but a sword" part]
(3) You sound angry when you say that. Why are you so angry?
(4) You're angry at God, aren't you?
(5) Therefore, God exists.

73
ARGUMENT FROM SKEWED ASSUMPTIONS
(1) You're an atheist? But you're so nice!
(2) I just assumed you were a Christian.
(3) The niceness must be the light of God shining in you, whether you know it or not.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

74
ARGUMENT FROM SALAD BAR
(1) I only believe in the parts of the Bible that I want to believe.
(2) The parts I believe are logical and make sense.
(3) Therefore, the Bible is logical and makes sense.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

75
VANDERZYDEN'S ARGUMENT FROM SECRET KNOWLEDGE
(1) There is overwhelming evidence for the existence of God.
(2) No, I'm not going to tell you what it is.
(3) The only possible explanation for your lack of knowledge is that you haven't studied enough.
(4) Or maybe your atheistic presupposition is blinding you to the truth.
(5) But trust me — it's overwhelming.
(6) It's so overwhelming that no reasonable person can honestly reach the conclusion that God does not exist.
(7) Therefore, God exists.

76
ARGUMENT FROM POT
(1) Everything on Earth is here for people to use according to the Bible.
(2) Weed makes you feel really good.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

77
ARGUMENT FROM CONTRADICTION
(1) Assume that God exists.
(2) The atheist claims that God doesn't exist.
(3) But since this contradicts the original assumption, the atheist must be wrong.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

78
ARGUMENT FROM JESUS LOVES ME
(1) Jesus loves me because the Bible says so.
(2) If radiometric dating is valid, then Jesus might not love me after all because the Bible might not be literal truth.
(3) That's unacceptable.
(4) Therefore, radiometric dating is bogus, the Bible is literally true, Jesus loves me, and God exists.

79
ARGUMENT FROM SPAGHETTI MONSTER
(1) Everyone knows that the spaghetti monster doesn't exist.
(2) Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
(3) Oh, but the my religion's God is different!
(4) Therefore, God exists.

80
ARGUMENT FROM LONG SILENCE
(1) God exists.
(2) [Atheist explains why he doesn't.]
(3) [long silence]
(4) [Atheist forgets about the argument and goes home.]
(5) Therefore, God exists.

JasmineInglewood's photo
Thu 12/04/08 07:50 PM
Ok i'm done now :angel:

JasmineInglewood's photo
Thu 12/04/08 07:54 PM



I didn't bother to read it.


Your missing a good laugh...lol.


Brevity is the soul of wit.


i'm sorry, i didnt know how to make 60 less than 60 ohwell

The "wit" was in the sheer volume of argument that is used against atheism... all of which makes no logical sense, as one catholic himself admitted to earlier in this thread. Perhaps that escaped you.

Anyhoo, if you can't be bothered to read it then say so hon' ohwell its not a shameful thing

GuitarManager's photo
Thu 12/04/08 07:55 PM
Edited by GuitarManager on Thu 12/04/08 07:57 PM

Whats your view?


We're all monkeys and there is no God. Science hasn't explained the origins of life yet but science is a relatively new invention in the grand scheme of things. It's possible that we were a slave race created by aliens. I rather like the panspermia theory that life grows from seeds spread across the universe in the same way a flower here spreads its seed across a field. Evolution could be genetically programmed into the seeds of life which explains why aliens look like us. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia
Then again aliens might just be in our imagination even though there is more proof of their existence than God's existence. It could have just been lightning in a pool of amino acids creating the life we evolved from. We don't know our origins but we do know that evolution is true. Some people will argue the point about evolution being true.
When I look at things more objectively I have no idea if anything outside of my mind exists. All I know is that my mind interprets signals sent to it by nerves. I don't see or touch objects, I have an interpretation of a signal in my brain which then creates a representation of what I think is there. My brain could be making it up for all I know. I have to have faith that the real world exists. I think that having blind faith in a God is a cop out for not being able to comprehend anything's existence. God is a crutch created to explain what science cannot yet. As science advances religious views change; stars are no longer Gods in the sky, the sun is no longer a God but a ball of mostly hydrogen burning in a fusion reaction, the world is round not flat. It's only in recent history that science has been able to explain these things. In the next few hundred years science will answer more questions and religious views will change again. In a few thousand years religion as we know it will be dead.

GuitarManager's photo
Thu 12/04/08 07:58 PM

Whats your view?


Or I could have just said that I'm an atheist.

Abracadabra's photo
Thu 12/04/08 08:04 PM
74
ARGUMENT FROM SALAD BAR
(1) I only believe in the parts of the Bible that I want to believe.
(2) The parts I believe are logical and make sense.
(3) Therefore, the Bible is logical and makes sense.
(4) Therefore, God exists.


This where about 99.9% of modern Christians are coming from.

The organized religion has long since been dead. All that's left is what I've been calling "Designer Christians"

But maybe "Salad Bar Christians" it truly a better term. flowerforyou

I don't see how anyone can romanticize the idea that some guy had to be nailed to a pole to save their butt.

Where's the romance in that? If that were really the truth, it would be the most disgraceful shameful thing I can possibly think of. Yet people romanticize this notion ever day. ohwell

no photo
Thu 12/04/08 08:10 PM
1. Every finite and contingent being has a cause.
2. Nothing finite and contingent can cause itself.
3. A causal chain cannot be of infinite length.
4. Therefore, a First Cause (or something that is not an effect) must exist.


Abracadabra's photo
Thu 12/04/08 08:15 PM


Whats your view?


Or I could have just said that I'm an atheist.


I'm not an atheist. I'm more of a pantheist or animist.

The only thing I know for sure is that the Bible is not a pretty picture of either God or man.

If it is true then I'm sorely disappointed to discover that our creator is so inept and egotistically arrogant on top of that.

I seriously rather atheism be true that to discover that the Bible is true. We'd be better off dead than discovering that God is like the Bible claims.

Fortunately the biblical picture of God only represents a very small very unimaginative idea of what God might be like. History shows us that all of the manmade mythologies that arose in the Mediterranean area were indeed extremely similar to the biblical picture. They all had gods that lusted for blood sacrifices, for example.

But like I say, there are much better pictures of spirituality to be found. Much wiser and more intelligent, not to mention that they don't contradict themsleves.

So if there really is a creator doesn't it make sense that it would be more like the wiser pictures?

I certainly think so. flowerforyou

I think it's truly sad that a lot of people have come to believe that either Mediterranean mythology (the Bible) is true, or there is no spiritual element to life.

That's truly sad. :cry:

There are better pictures of God out there. flowerforyou