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| Topic: 60 Absolutely Infallible Indesputable Proofs That God Exist | |
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fine. didn't we all come from a womb? |
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I mean if we all were born of our mom's... |
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...then she created us, right? (with a little drop of help from dad, hee hee) soo........ |
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arn't our parents gods ...? |
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(...ducking behind the couch...) |
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but really now.... |
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...indeed, my parents are all totally SCREWED up... |
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...they're pretty messed up 'gods' |
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does this mean I'm a messed up godling? |
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I really don't care if you're Hindu or Buddist or Catholic or Jehovas Witness Or mormon or Muslim Isn't god........... |
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loving every one of you ??????? isn't god..... |
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everywhere? (rather tough job in today's economy) |
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isn't god...... |
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in all of us |
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Only the ones who invite him in!
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Yes, I am a child of God, and something very weird, if I figure it out soon, I will let you know. I think godlings are cooooool!
 
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but dude, I didn't invite god in. that was there way way way way way before me................ I was invited in. |
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Edited by
Krimsa
on
Fri 12/05/08 04:45 AM
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Thats not the point spider. You just dont have to be rude to people is all I meant. There's no 'proof of God' in all this stuff. I have to agree with that assessment spider. You have proven nothing. You have not shown that something had to "create a cause" That implies an intelligent designer. Im not saying that it is an impossible concept but you also refuse to accept the concept of evolutionary biology which makes me question some of your basic understandings overall. There is nothing that says that an intelligent designer did not utilize evolution in order to bring biological organisms into existence and begin that process over millions of years. Why take one and not the other? If a house burned down, does that mean that the fire was intelligent? The house fire was caused by something, does it necessitate an intelligent cause? No. No. No. The cosmological argument proves that the universe had a cause. That's it. It doesn't prove or imply an intelligent creator. It proves that something caused the universe to exist. There are other arguments that will take us past this point into the realms of "Is the cause intelligent" and "which religion, if any, most accurately describes this cause"? Is that it? Is that all you have. Then that is nothing more than what you state. Something might have "caused" the Big Bang to occur but that does not imply ID. It could have been any number of naturally occurring events. You keep speaking of these "other arguments" that supposedly elude to substantiating the idea that a ID must have existed in order for this to occur. If you have something more, you probably need to show it because this is unconvincing. In fact, it's downright silly. You are essentially bastardizing a cosmological argument and attempting to slant it towards a biased an unfounded assumption that there is a god. Your next step will be to attempt to prove that it is the god of he bible. Pfft. I dont understand why the first cause is unique? Why should I believe that? Are you saying that it is somehow exempt from having a cause? What caused the first cause? You are creating a "special situation" there and it is simply not true.The problem with arguing for the first cause's exemption is that it raises the question of why the first cause is indeed exempt? How come you are giving this First Cause such special treatment? You cant just make things up and create your own rules. |
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this whole idea of "multiplying entities without reason" you are saying that because the universe is not infinite it must have a cause. you cannot make the assumption out of the blue that the cause of the universe does not require a cause. you are assuming without reason that the cause of the universe is infinite... and why are you assuming that? you know nothing about the cause of the universe.no one does. There has to be an original cause. The first cause. Unless you believe that there is an infinite chain of cause / effect universe, but that would just be the oscillating universe model, which was disproven in the 1970's. Well, not disproven, but they have been unable to come up with a model that allows for infinite age. same goes for your assumption that a personal force created intelligently the impersonal force. pure guesswork.  It's not guesswork, it's logic. It's an argument from logic. You can't say "well, it's guesswork". You really need to think about it and try to refute the argument. The more you try to refute it, the stronger you will find the logic to be. Logical arguments strongly favor Christianity and your original post was made to mock such arguments. If you want to mock them, shouldn't you understand them? Shouldn't you be able to refute them on a point by point basis? |
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someone pass the mashed potatoes please
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