Wow, I should have expected that, but it was still a suprise. Obviously no one has to answer, but I had hoped that was what this forum was for, asking questions, getting answers. Your perspective of me couldn't be further from the truth, and I can only assume you scan a post rather than read it in full, other wise I can't figure out where you asume I want only to argue hate and bash..

I am sorry you feel picked on. That was the reason I offerd the questions in smaller packages, so you wouldn't feel overwhelmed.

It's understood that there is no obligation to answer questions, however, it is often a way to keep a conversation constructive and informative. Questions and responces that are well considered and support one's opinion are also the best way to keep a discussion from breaking down. Especially when the subject matter regards an issue that many consider of prime importance to society.

Unfortunately you were the one with the fortitude to keep coming back while others sort of slithered away.

Why do you think that is? Of course, like the U.S. Supreme Court, you don't have to answer that, you can pick and choose the questions that are easiest to answer. It is late and looking up anything new can be so cumbersome. Of course if you know everything you want to know, then not responding to questions you don't have answers to would be a good choice.

Good night, I'm done!

for now!

You know, how do we know what the sex life of Jesus was anymore than we can tell today? Jesus could have been bi or gay or could have married. None of us know for a fact. But it sure would explain some things.

And if one can accept a person for who they are in reality could we not accept that as well?

If you could just prove God said any of it, that would be most helpful, or at least stop the bleeding in this thread.

Anybody want to take a stab at the questions in here. I'm getting kinda bored.

male Eastern Bluebirds are so beautiful... ...

my views on the subject.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exDo2SMdB-0

accedntly posted twice.

He raises some good points.

Ow My God, I can not believe the closed mindedness. Because a few guys from congress passed the law that marriage is between a man and a woman that makes it so. Come on people if they passed a law that the sky was purple would it all of a sudden be purple. How can you say nobodys rights are being infringed. If congress had said marriage was between two people of the same sex would you all of a sudden be in love with someone of the same sex. I dought it.
If someone tells me I have to be a jehovah witness, will that make me one. NO, I will still be a catholic.
If you look back at history you didn't use to be able to marry outside of your religion or your race either. Ow these are all sins. Maybe congress should ban them. Ow wait then some of the people in congress would be breaking the law, what ever would we do?
If the suicide rate is higher amoung the children of gay parents it is not due to the parents being gay it is due the ignorance of sociaty. If people could learn to deal with in differance and teach there children that a person is a person regardless of there race, gender, religion, sexual origan or anything else, then the world would be a much better place and there would not be all the hate there is in the world.
As I told my niece when she was young. She asked why two people were together, as she could not understand cause they were differant. I asked her if she loved me, and she said yeah alot. So then I asked her if I got in a horrible accident tomarrow and my face was all disfigured would you still love me? She said yes. So then I ask why. She said cause I am me. I said that is why that man loves that woman, because he loves who she is on the inside and it doesn't matter if she is differant cause she is still who she is.
Lets let go of the prejudice. Just let people live. If they are not hitting on you no real harm is being done. Learn to appreciate the people inside.

Hey no fare, SeaMonster, I have dial up, I can't watch the youtube.. drats!!

There is nothing in the Christian Scriptures (New Testament) which specifically identifies Jesus' sexual orientation. The Bible does not say clearly whether Jesus had a heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual orientation. It is silent on whether Jesus was celibate or sexually active; single or married, childless or with children. However, a few theologians have asserted that Jesus had, and presumably still has, a homosexual orientation.

Hmm, that interesting, who are these theologians, got any links to such ideas?

I don't think it was much of a suprise that he hung out with guys alot in that time, I think it was strange to ask them all to leave their families to follow him. so much for respect of marriage.

The Gospel references to "the disciple whom Jesus loved" use the word "agape." Whether the authors originally used "eros" and the word was subsequently changed is open to speculation.



"Jagannath" interprets the Gospels differently. He argues that Jesus may have been bisexual. He wrote:

"In the Book of John a word is used eight times that means 'is in love with' with the implication of sexual intimacy. Five times it is used with reference to Jesus' relationship with John. Once it is used to define Jesus' relationship with Lazarus. And it is also used to describe his relationship with Mary and with her sister Martha."

During the crucifixion, in John 19:26-28, Jesus is described as seeing his mother and an unidentified man: "the disciple standing by, whom he loved." Again, Jesus probably loved all of his 12 or 70 disciples in a non-sexual manner (and that's up for debate). But this particular disciple is identified as "the" disciple who Jesus loved. That might indicate a special intimate relationship with one special disciple.

So, the Bible makes frequent mention of polygamy.

Yet, the U.S. government was so offended by it as practiced by Mormons that it passed legislation, raided Mormon communities and forced families to separate.

Polygamy was illegal in the territory of Utah by the following acts of congress:

1862 the Anti-Bigamy Act
1874 Poland Act
1882 Edmunds Act
1887 Edmunds-Tucker Act

Now, if you want to refer to the Bible's descriptions of marriage and model statutes after it why don't you embrace polygamy?

Any widows here?

The Bible prescribes marrying the brother of your deceased husband.

I don't know about you but I find that one sort of stomach churningly (not a word it just fits) bad.

This absurd picking and choosing of scripture to enforce hatred and small mindedness would amuse me if it wasn't so disgusting. People seeking justification for prejudice point to all sorts of reasons like "they aren't like us" but the very worst in my mind is pointing to the Bible to justify their prejudice, hatred, small mindedness and discriminatory behavior.

Want to live by the book?

I dare you!!

You know when I watch these documentaries like on Cnn, they seem to have had quite a few so called scholars talking about the bible and what might have happened in one event or another. I have no doubt why people are so confused about all of it. And especially today when you have no idea who is behind the documentaries.

I love watching the history channel doc's too about religion, but it just makes me even more confused. I can't tell if they are trying to refute it or push it..

UMMM

well i think i know what hes getting at lol but im not gonna say it

The late Morton Smith, of Columbia University reported in 1958 that he had found a fragment of a manuscript which at the Mar Saba monastery near Jerusalem. It contained the full text of Mark, chapter 10. Apparently the version that is in the Christian Scriptures is an edited version of the original. Additional verses allegedly formed part of the full version of Mark, and were inserted after verse 34. It discusses how a young man, naked but for a linen covering, expressed his love for Jesus and stayed with him at his place all night. More details.
"J Richards" suggested that Mark 7:14-16 shows that Jesus approves of homosexual acts. The critical phrase reads: "There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him..." Richards suggests that Jesus gave great emphasis to this teaching, directing it to everyone. Richards suggests that the sentence refers to dietary laws and also extends to "blood transfusions, medication, organ transplants, and artificial insemination" and to homosexual acts as well.