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Topic: If you think intelligent design should be taught in schools.
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Sat 12/13/08 10:51 PM
Forget intelligent design.... how about stupid design?

How do we know the creator is intelligent?



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Sat 12/13/08 11:18 PM



Yep 10 commandments ..

When it was taught the biggest school problem was chewing gum.

Get rid of them.. Chaos


right and the black kids were kept from the whites, so we need to go back to that also?
People seem to have this fantacy of how the 50s were and it just is not so in reality.
drinker The 50s SUCKEDdrinker


Gio keeps wishing he was in the 50's. He thinks that those were the good ole days.surprised

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Sat 12/13/08 11:23 PM





I have $10 on a cut and paste link to the EVIDENCE spider has to support his claims....

courtesy of google..bigsmile


Who'll give me 3 to 1 odds??? huh laugh


Mocking the use of evidence. Willful ignorance at it's best. They weren't called the National Socialists because they wanted to lower taxes. I'm not labeling the Nazis liberals to insult liberals today, let's remember that it was MirrorMirror who posted the fallacious assertion that the Nazis were right wing conservatives.
:smile: I live in the south:smile: I live around Nazis.:smile: They are in my community.:smile: I have lived around them my entire life.:smile: They are right wingers.:smile: They HATE liberals.:smile: They have their own "christian" churches and bibles(The Kloran).:smile:I know this firsthand.:smile: Their definition of "National Socialist" is like their definition of "christian".:smile:Its different than the context in which you are using it.:smile: Go up to one of them and ask if Hitler was a christian man and they will tell you "yes".:smile:Or better yet, tell them that they are liberals and see what happens to you.laugh LOLlaughJust kidding Spider, dont do that.happy I don't want nothing to happen to ya.:tongue:


You need to move, Mirror.flowerforyou

:smile: The guys that planned to assasinate Obama were from the Nazis in my community.:smile:


Paul Schlesselman and Daniel Cowart attempted an assassination attempt of over 100 African Americans and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and they were allegedly affiliated with Supreme White Alliance(a white supremacist organization cited in Muhlenberg County) although the leaders of the SWA have denounced all association with the men by stating that neither of the men were ever full members of the group


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhlenberg_County,_Kentucky



:smile: They have a compound here:smile: Pretty much everybody in my community hates them and wishes they would disapear.:smile: They are an embarressment and a shame on our town, and they lower our property values and keep jobs from coming into our community.:smile: They do not represent most people that live in my area.:smile: We have done everything legally possible to drive these people out of here.:smile:


I read what Wiki said. That's small, Mirror.

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Sat 12/13/08 11:25 PM




He was also a major follower of the occult. Which made him a "New Ager". Though this phrase was not coined until much later - he is the poster child for New Age philosophy.
What a brilliant piece of semantic sleight of hand.

I haven't seen the shell game played that fast and smooth in quite a while.


Okay - what would you call Hitlers interest in astrology, numerology, the "spear of destiny", his search for the holy grail?

Do tell - do you have another label for it?
Seems to me like "New Age" is new age. If it looks like a rose, smalls like a rose...

But you seem to have a better label for it. What would you call it so I can get my semantics right?


sounds like you get your history from Indiana Jones movies.


Documentaries on the History channel, and I read "Spear of Destiny". Have you?


Eljay,

I'm afraid that the facts might get in the way of the argument, besides, they already know what they believe and the truth will just get in the way.

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Sat 12/13/08 11:36 PM
Edited by Cowgirlstomp on Sat 12/13/08 11:40 PM
This truly is the most disrespectful thing I have seen since the governer of my state (whom I DID NOT vote for I might add) allowed Atheists to publically degrade and attack the Christian religion. This "letter" makes a mockery of a belief system that goes back longer than this was a country. I find it offensive and ultamately a poor attempt at being noticed until it landed in this thread. How is it funny or even okay for someone to attack anothers belief. A belief I might add.. That has factual evidence to back it up, just like evolution does... Does anyone even watch the news? They found Noah's Ark for goodness sake!!! Lets really look at ourselves and see that this is wrong and this post should come down.

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Sat 12/13/08 11:42 PM

God bless the Flying Spaghetti Monster


You just asked the Lord and Creator of our land to bless a mockery of He and His followers... Wow, man... Wow...

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Sat 12/13/08 11:43 PM

Forget intelligent design.... how about stupid design?

How do we know the creator is intelligent?





Do you consider YOURSELF intelligent?

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Sun 12/14/08 12:29 AM






I have $10 on a cut and paste link to the EVIDENCE spider has to support his claims....

courtesy of google..bigsmile


Who'll give me 3 to 1 odds??? huh laugh


Mocking the use of evidence. Willful ignorance at it's best. They weren't called the National Socialists because they wanted to lower taxes. I'm not labeling the Nazis liberals to insult liberals today, let's remember that it was MirrorMirror who posted the fallacious assertion that the Nazis were right wing conservatives.
:smile: I live in the south:smile: I live around Nazis.:smile: They are in my community.:smile: I have lived around them my entire life.:smile: They are right wingers.:smile: They HATE liberals.:smile: They have their own "christian" churches and bibles(The Kloran).:smile:I know this firsthand.:smile: Their definition of "National Socialist" is like their definition of "christian".:smile:Its different than the context in which you are using it.:smile: Go up to one of them and ask if Hitler was a christian man and they will tell you "yes".:smile:Or better yet, tell them that they are liberals and see what happens to you.laugh LOLlaughJust kidding Spider, dont do that.happy I don't want nothing to happen to ya.:tongue:


You need to move, Mirror.flowerforyou

:smile: The guys that planned to assasinate Obama were from the Nazis in my community.:smile:


Paul Schlesselman and Daniel Cowart attempted an assassination attempt of over 100 African Americans and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and they were allegedly affiliated with Supreme White Alliance(a white supremacist organization cited in Muhlenberg County) although the leaders of the SWA have denounced all association with the men by stating that neither of the men were ever full members of the group


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhlenberg_County,_Kentucky



:smile: They have a compound here:smile: Pretty much everybody in my community hates them and wishes they would disapear.:smile: They are an embarressment and a shame on our town, and they lower our property values and keep jobs from coming into our community.:smile: They do not represent most people that live in my area.:smile: We have done everything legally possible to drive these people out of here.:smile:


I read what Wiki said. That's small, Mirror.
huh

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Sun 12/14/08 12:42 AM







I have $10 on a cut and paste link to the EVIDENCE spider has to support his claims....

courtesy of google..bigsmile


Who'll give me 3 to 1 odds??? huh laugh


Mocking the use of evidence. Willful ignorance at it's best. They weren't called the National Socialists because they wanted to lower taxes. I'm not labeling the Nazis liberals to insult liberals today, let's remember that it was MirrorMirror who posted the fallacious assertion that the Nazis were right wing conservatives.
:smile: I live in the south:smile: I live around Nazis.:smile: They are in my community.:smile: I have lived around them my entire life.:smile: They are right wingers.:smile: They HATE liberals.:smile: They have their own "christian" churches and bibles(The Kloran).:smile:I know this firsthand.:smile: Their definition of "National Socialist" is like their definition of "christian".:smile:Its different than the context in which you are using it.:smile: Go up to one of them and ask if Hitler was a christian man and they will tell you "yes".:smile:Or better yet, tell them that they are liberals and see what happens to you.laugh LOLlaughJust kidding Spider, dont do that.happy I don't want nothing to happen to ya.:tongue:


You need to move, Mirror.flowerforyou

:smile: The guys that planned to assasinate Obama were from the Nazis in my community.:smile:


Paul Schlesselman and Daniel Cowart attempted an assassination attempt of over 100 African Americans and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and they were allegedly affiliated with Supreme White Alliance(a white supremacist organization cited in Muhlenberg County) although the leaders of the SWA have denounced all association with the men by stating that neither of the men were ever full members of the group


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhlenberg_County,_Kentucky



:smile: They have a compound here:smile: Pretty much everybody in my community hates them and wishes they would disapear.:smile: They are an embarressment and a shame on our town, and they lower our property values and keep jobs from coming into our community.:smile: They do not represent most people that live in my area.:smile: We have done everything legally possible to drive these people out of here.:smile:


I read what Wiki said. That's small, Mirror.
huh


31,839 people in a county is small to me. Yep, those idiots were at the bottom of the page too - where they belonged.

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Sun 12/14/08 12:50 AM
The only thing that needs to be taught in schools is how to find information and understand it with a critical eye.

Any religious or philosophical bias should be tossed out of public education.

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Sun 12/14/08 12:53 AM

The only thing that needs to be taught in schools is how to find information and understand it with a critical eye.

Any religious or philosophical bias should be tossed out of public education.
:banana: Thats right:banana:

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Sun 12/14/08 04:42 AM

The only thing that needs to be taught in schools is how to find information and understand it with a critical eye.

Any religious or philosophical bias should be tossed out of public education.


I agree sir and a ways back, before this conversation spun off into a torrential disagreement concerning Adolph Hitler's religious beliefs, huh I had actually mentioned that.

Even if we did allow for an ID course study as elective, what instructor would teach that exactly?

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Sun 12/14/08 07:42 AM
Edited by Seamonster on Sun 12/14/08 07:43 AM


Yeah I think so and isnt the Holy grail the chalice that Jesus supposedly drank from? We are back to Christianity folks.

Hitler was Catholic.


He was an occultist.


not true.

He was catholic.










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Sun 12/14/08 07:45 AM
The Catholic and the Protestant churches both funded and endorsed Adolph Hitler. This is reality. If it were not for the Christian citizenry of Germany also putting their faith and support in his mission, he would have never reached the level of accumulated power that he did.

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Sun 12/14/08 07:49 AM
It were mostly Christian Democrats moving up in higher positions. The was next to no chance for a Social Democrat, he had to go to war and fight at the foremost front.
Hitler was after Jews, Communists, and Social Democrats, in that order, and thus the left wing was eliminated.

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Sun 12/14/08 08:35 AM
Edited by Spidercmb on Sun 12/14/08 08:35 AM

Why is a shameful, and abhorrent historical slur being debated at all?

And if anyone would have a clear, EXPERIENTIAL understanding of the political persuasions in Germany, it is Invisible, she is possibly the ONLY poster in these threads that can speak of the political parties in modern Germany with any authority.

the rest is prosetylising guff... of the google variety.


Appeal to Authority.

Why should I assume that simply because Invisible is German that she knows more about German history? Why should I assume that Invisible will be truthful about what she knows of German history? Your argument is a fallacy worthy of any elementary school play ground.

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Sun 12/14/08 08:39 AM
Spider stop being so mean to people and let them voice their opinions without a lot of insults alright? :angry: That is that person's opinion of Invisible and so far from what I have read, she seems to know what she is talking about and is very objective. If you feel the need to discredit her, then do so. Locate information that clearly is in conflict with anything she has stated thus far.

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Sun 12/14/08 08:48 AM


Why is a shameful, and abhorrent historical slur being debated at all?

And if anyone would have a clear, EXPERIENTIAL understanding of the political persuasions in Germany, it is Invisible, she is possibly the ONLY poster in these threads that can speak of the political parties in modern Germany with any authority.

the rest is prosetylising guff... of the google variety.


Appeal to Authority.

Why should I assume that simply because Invisible is German that she knows more about German history? Why should I assume that Invisible will be truthful about what she knows of German history? Your argument is a fallacy worthy of any elementary school play ground.


Wanna call me a liar?

Go on, do it.

I won't stoop to your level, there would be a lot of things I could call you if I wished so. As I said before, you believe what you will, I KNOW what I KNOW


END OF STORY

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Sun 12/14/08 08:52 AM



Why is a shameful, and abhorrent historical slur being debated at all?

And if anyone would have a clear, EXPERIENTIAL understanding of the political persuasions in Germany, it is Invisible, she is possibly the ONLY poster in these threads that can speak of the political parties in modern Germany with any authority.

the rest is prosetylising guff... of the google variety.


Appeal to Authority.

Why should I assume that simply because Invisible is German that she knows more about German history? Why should I assume that Invisible will be truthful about what she knows of German history? Your argument is a fallacy worthy of any elementary school play ground.


Wanna call me a liar?

Go on, do it.

I won't stoop to your level, there would be a lot of things I could call you if I wished so. As I said before, you believe what you will, I KNOW what I KNOW


END OF STORY


Invisible,

I wasn't calling you a liar, I was explaining why Jess's post was a logical fallacy. If you want to be offended, the go right ahead. She is saying "Well, Invisible says it and she's a German, so it must be the truth", but that doesn't follow. I'm sure this is incredibly offensive to you, but it wasn't intended to be so.

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Sun 12/14/08 08:59 AM
Invisible,

I wasn't calling you a liar, I was explaining why Jess's post was a logical fallacy. If you want to be offended, the go right ahead. She is saying "Well, Invisible says it and she's a German, so it must be the truth", but that doesn't follow. I'm sure this is incredibly offensive to you, but it wasn't intended to be so.


And how was it then with your statement that people who believe that the Nazis were right winged are uneducated and ill informed, accusing nearly the whole German population of it? I'm not to take that serious either?
If I was you I would start with thinking BEFORE spouting out these things. To know where the Nazis were standing you would have to know the entire political system in Germany at that time, which you clearly do not, otherwise you wouldn't say the things you do with such force.

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