"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole cartloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in Christianity."


John Adams-Second President of the United States of America

Don't know if I believe in the exact dimensions of the ark presented in the bible. To me, it doesn't matter. I don't know if I believe god wiped out every single person on the planet. I do believe there was a great flood. Many cultures have an oral account of this happening, including the Aborigines and native Americans.

Yea but is there a historical account of anything that long ago, that anyone can prove that everything in it is true? Can't throw out everything.

I'm a evolutionist myself. I think that you all are thing about this a little to hard. The stories in the bible are just that, a story. A story that is there to inspire people to do the right thing. Not to be taken serious.

OK but there a great deal of people that do take it literally.

There are (as in any holy book) things that can help you live a decent life but, I guess I'm finding it hard to understand the excepting something as fact with zero evidence to back it up.

I think its in the netherlands.......but it has been built!!!!!
a guy made an exact replica, even stocked with life sized animals!!!!

Here is the link
http://www.arkvannoach.com/language/en/themakingof.htm

Evolutionary biology is irrefutable fact! Get over it. Look at a friggin chimp skeleton next to a human. The similarities are undeniable. You are being silly and delusional.

Alright Im done with my rant for the day.

Don't forget about Lucie

Noah’s Ark: An Engineering Imposibility

Actually the story of Genesis is, even at first glance, absurd.

First let us look at the ark built by Noah. Genesis 6:15 gives its measurements as 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide and 30 cubits high. The length of the cubit is based on the length of the human forearm and varies among the various ancient cultures. For instance, the Babylonian cubit was approximately 0.53 metres, the Roman cubit was about 0.44 metres while the Hebrew cubit was about 0.56 metres. Using the Hebrew cubit the ark would have measured 168 metres long, 28 metres wide and 17 metres high. There are two problems with this ark as described: it is both too big and too small at the same time.

It is too big, because before the invention of steel, the wooden ark of Noah simply could not have been structurally sound and was thus unseaworthy. The longest wooden ship ever built (i.e. historically verified) was the USS Wyoming. This vessel, which was, at 110 meters long, a full 50% shorter than Noah’s ark, was found to be so unstable that it could only be used for short coastal hauls to avoid rough conditions further out in the sea. The huge structural stresses that developed in the USS Wyoming made the ship sag and, well, it leaked. Water thus had to be pumped out continuously to prevent the ship from sinking. Now, here we have Noah’s ark, built with wood, before the invention of steel and hydraulic pumps, undergoing the turbulent conditions of the flood unscathed. It is simply an engineering impossibility.

It is too small, because there is simply not enough room for all the animals. There are extant today over 4,500 species of mammals, 6,000 species of reptiles, 8,600 species of birds and 3,000 species of amphibians. Each of these have many large members: elephants, camels, rhinoceros, hippopotamasus, giraffes, horses, donkeys, zebras, cattle, bison, tapirs, pigs, tigers, lions, jaguars, panthers, sea lions, walruses, crocodiles, alligators, giant turtles, Komodo dragon, snakes, ostriches, emus, falcons and giant salamanders. There are 23,000 species of fishes, many of which will not be able to survive the flood if not taken up into the ark. Each kilogram of fish require about a cubic meter of water to survive-this is simply to provide enough oxygen and provide space for swimming while sleeping and feeding. The volume of water required for the fishes alone would be larger than the ark.[4] And then there are the little creatures; there are about a million species of insects and 60,000 species of arachnids. How were these species stored in the ark?

Other Impossibilities

Gathering all these animals would be a problem. Genesis 7:11-15 makes it clear that the gathering of all the animals took only one twenty-four hour day. Thus each pair of animals have less than 1/10th of a second to get into the the ark. The question of pairs also raises the issue of organisms that simply don’t survive or reproduce in pairs: insects such as bees and flies.

Noah was also supposed to store food for these animals (Genesis 6:21). This presents another problem in terms of storage space and the actual variety required. A pair of elephants would require about 300 kgs of bulky greenery per day. Enough meat must be stored for the various carnivores such as tigers, lions, jaguars and panthers. The 10,000 species of termites would have to be fed to ensure that they do not consume the ship itself! The giant panda would have to be fed only bamboo shoots. The koala must be fed only fresh eucalyptus leaves. Animals such as snakes, penguins and bats need to be fed with living food; so Noah would need additional storage space for rats, fishes and insects for these creatures. Removing the wastes and excrements of the animals in the ark would provide a logistical nightmare. How could pairs of all these be taken up the ark and looked after by only eight people (Noah, his wife, his three sons and their wives.)?

And what about terrestrial plants and vegetation? The immense weight of the flood water would have destroyed them all. What kept the plant alive through the flood? It is naive and pointless to say that God kept these alive by miraculous means; for what is the reason then for Noah building the ark? If God could keep the plants and the fresh water fishes alive without Noah taking them into the ark, He surely could have kept all the rest alive without needing the ark.

There are still more difficulties with the story. It fails to explain the distribution of animals after the flood; How did the animals know how to reach their respective habitat after the flood? What an amazing coincidence that almost all marsupials end up in Australia. Why did the penguins head for the south pole and not the north? Where did all the water go after the flood? What did the carnivores eat before the first pairs of their food have a chance to reproduce? What did the herbivores eat, since all the plants woulsd have died during the flood?

You mean "Lucy"? The 40% complete Australopithecus female? Ya, the Christians dont like her. Shhh! They prefer to think she is merely a deformed chimpanzee.

You mean "Lucy"? The 40% complete Australopithecus female? Ya, the Christians dont like her. Shhh! They prefer to think she is merely a deformed chimpanzee.

There is no way that a planetary flood could have taken place. There is absolutely no archeological record of it. It just didnt occur. It cant rain like 6 inches an hour or whatever it was supposed to be. The precipitation would have had to come from outside the atmosphere. Its absurd. Nothing could have survived such a deluge, except sea animals because they DONT DROWN.

O Lord… uh… what the hell is this? What are you playing at, here? ARE YOU TRYIN’ TO YANK MY FREAKIN’ CHAIN?!

ok but there a great deal of people that do take it literaly.

There are (as in any holy book) things that can help you live a decient life but, I guess I'm finding it hard to understand the excepting something as fact with zero evidence to back it up.