This deluge had it really happened would have left behind unmistakable evidence of its occurrence. While geological records show that there had been epochs when some of the earth’s surface now covered by land was covered by water and vice versa. This flooding and drying happened repeatedly in many places at different times. However there is no evidence whatsoever of a worldwide flood as recorded in the book of Genesis.

In fact some of the evidence against the actual occurrence of a worldwide flood was already known more than a hundred years ago. The man who bought forward one such evidence was the one considered to be the father of modern geology, Charles Lyell (1797-1897). In his 1863 book, The Geological Evidences for the Antiquity of Man, he noted that the extinct volcanoes of France in the Auvergne district were composed of loose ashes. The volcanoes had been extinct for a long time, certainly longer than the purported time of the biblical flood. Thus he continued:


"Had the waters once risen, even for a day, so high as to reach the level of the base of one of these cones-had there been a single flood fifty or sixty feet in height since the last eruption occurred- a great part of the volcanoes must have inevitably been swept away"


Today the geological (and historical) evidence for the non-occurrence of a worldwide flood is simply overwhelming. Ian Plimer, Professor of Geology at the University of Melbourne, gave a thorough listing of these in his book Telling Lies for God: Reason versus Creationism. I will give two of the evidence cited by Professor Plimer:

The first concerns the sequence of the sedimentary deposits. There are two kinds of sediments: high energy and low energy sediment. Based on simple laboratory tests and field observations of actual floods, it can be shown that high energy sediments, such as gravel, are deposited during the height of floods. Low energy sediments, such as siltstone, mudstone and claystone, are deposited during the waning of the floods. Thus if there is a worldwide flood we would expect that there would be a uniform worldwide sedimentary formation with the high energy sediments (ancient gravel, sands) at the bottom and the low energy sediments at the top. Yet this is not seen on anything close to a global scale. As Professor Plimer pointed out, if this is to be seen on a global scale, oilfield geologists would have an easy job since all sedimentary formation would invariably have sandstone at the bottom and siltstones, mudstones and claystones at the top!


The second concerns the evidence of the environment of the sediments during its time of deposition. Chemical and fossil evidence shows that some sedimentary rocks were formed in freshwater environments while others were formed in a saline (salty-seawater) environment. Clearly the waters that was sent by God during the deluge was either fresh or saline; it couldn’t be both!

It just did not happen. Of course there have been floods throughout the ages at different times and in different locations on the face of the planet but never something that covered the surface all at once. Besides, if god wanted to get rid of all humans and everything else, couldn't he have simply snapped his fingers and the earth would have spontaneously ignited or melted or imploded or something? Why the need for all these theatrics?

Besides the bible simply stole the concept behind the flood from the Sumerians. Yet another story "adapted". Exact same premise also where the gods set aside one righteous man to spare. The bible is not even origional. The Sumerians were much more creative and clever in their tales and that is why they survived the ages. They also were exposed to floods constantly as they relied upon the life giving yearly floods of the Tigris and Euphrates riverbanks. Mesopotamia (from the Greek meaning "land between the rivers"

. Written flood legends from all over the world.
The fact that there are written records of the great Flood found in hundreds of nations and tribes from all parts of the world is firm evidence that these people groups all originated from the one family preserved through the cataclysm. All of these accounts are similar in one way or another to the Genesis record. The widespread nature of flood accounts throughout the entire human race is excellent evidence for the fact of a worldwide flood from a legal/historical point of view. See the following web site for a detail listing: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html It is important to note that 95% say the flood was universal; 70% say survival depended upon a boat; 66% say the wickedness of man was the cause; 88% say there was a favored family; 66% say the remnant was warned; 67% say animals were also saved; 57% say the survivors ended up on a mountain; 35% say birds were sent out; 9% say eight people were saved; and 7% mention a rainbow.

B. Archeological and Scientific Evidence.

1. Most of the earth's crust consists of sedimentary rocks. Over 70% of the earth's surface rock is sedimentary rock (the rest of earth's surface rock is volcanic igneous and metamorphic rock). Sedimentary rock was originally formed in almost all cases under water, usually by deposition after transportation by water from various sources. Sedimentary rocks are made up of pieces of rock or other material which existed somewhere else, and were eroded or dissolved and redeposited in their present location. Sedimentary rock results from moving water which lays down layer upon layer by what’s called hydrologic sorting (sandstone, siltstone, shale, limestone, etc). This means that over 70% of the earth’s crust has been moved by a great movement of water giving strong evidence for the flood.

2. Sedimentary rock is clearly visible near the top of Mt. Everest.
How could sedimentary rock deposits come to rest near the top of Mt. Everest? This could only occur if at some time in the past this mountain was under water. See this web site for pictures. http://library.thinkquest.org/10131/geology_visual.html

3. Mount Ararat was once submerged.
On Mount Ararat, a volcanic mountain complex, pillow lava is found at the 14,000 foot level. The United States Geological Society states: “Pillow lava is formed when basalts erupt underwater. Pillow lava’s are mounds of lava formed by repeated oozing and quenching of the hot basalt.”

Pillow lava must be extruded under water and is recognized by its high glass content caused by very rapid cooling. All of the igneous rocks examined on Ararat by geologist Clifford Bur**** were highly glassy. Ararat apparently was submerged in water to above the present 14,000-foot level. This evidence gives further weight to the Biblical account of the flood. These evidences from geology and many more point to a violent, catastrophic past history of the earth. They imply a global flood with associated volcanic and mountain building activity which changed the face of the earth.

4. The enormous numbers of fossils found around the world.
a. How are fossils formed? Fossilization requires rapid burial of a plant or animal. However, such burial is exceedingly rare today which makes fossilization almost non-existent in modern times. The existence of massive numbers of fossils worldwide is clear evidence of quick, mass burial. A global flood catastrophe would offer conditions most ideal to the location of these great numbers of fossils. The fossils give evidence that these animals were killed suddenly. Millions of fish fossils retained all the body parts indicating very rapid burial. Under normal conditions, fish do not fossilize. Dead fish are torn apart by scavengers and disintegrate on the ocean bottom. Fossils also exist with soft tissue like jellyfish and sponges. There are fossils that have preserved animal tracts in mud, fish odors, amino acids, proteins, epidermal bark in plants, cell details, chlorophyll, etc.

b. Fossils are found in the Himalayan Mountains. If you will go to the following web site http://library.thinkquest.org/10131/geology_visual.html you can see pictures of a marine animal called Ammonite which are found in large numbers in the Kali Gandaki river in Nepal. Ammonites were sea animals having shells - either straight or coiled. Some of the fossils are large with a diameter up to 2 meters. These animals are proof that the ocean once covered this area.

c. There are abundant fossil remains of marine life found atop every mountain range in the world. This evidence makes it clear that all the mountains of the world have been under water at some time in the past, as indicated by sedimentary rocks and marine fossils near their summits. For example, clusters of hundreds of gigantic (300kg/650lbs) fossilized oysters found atop the Andes Mountains in South America. See web site: http://library.thinkquest.org/10131/geology_visual.html

d. Fossils have been found in the coal deposits of Montceau-les-Mines near Autun in France. What could explain the sea, land, and lake creatures that have been found buried together in one massive fossil deposit. One of the richest fossil discoveries was found in the huge coal deposit of Montceau-les-Mines near Autun, France. Racing to beat the strip-mining machines, amateur fossil-hunters collected 7,000 slabs and more than 100,000 nodules before the mine was filled in.

Two paleontologists from the Museum of Natural History in Paris reported in Scientific American (September, 1988, p.70) that the evidence 'tells a contradictory story. They say this because some of the fossils are of marine (saltwater) creatures, some are definitely freshwater dwellers (e.g. amphibious), and some are definitely land creatures (e.g. spiders, scorpions, millipedes and certain insects and reptiles).

e. The massive worldwide coal deposits also lend further proof to sudden destruction of immense primordial forests. Coal is formed when trees, plants, roots, bark, or any vegetation (peat) are buried by water and sediment. The burial of this vegetation by sediment causes compaction, which squeezes out the water and over time through the chemical processes of decay coal is formed. Coal is actually fossilized decayed vegetation or peat.

f. The random order of the fossils. The fossils within the sediments do not exhibit strong evidence of a record of evolution with simple animals at the bottom, progressing type by type up to more and more complex animals. The order is often random or completely upside down or out of order for evolution. But this would be expected in a global flood catastrophe. Fossils from the supposed different 'ages' are often found mixed together. This indicates a huge mixing of animal bones that is not consistent with a local flood.

g. Example of random mixing of fossils. In excess of 3,000,000 fossils, representing more than 565 different species have been discovered in the La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles, California.

h. Difficult evidence to explain. In addition, in many sedimentary rock layers geologists find some very odd features. For example, fossilized trees buried at all angles, upside-down and right-side-up, often passing through multiple rock layers, obviously the result of a marine cataclysm. These "polystrate" fossils (poly, meaning more than one; strate, meaning rock layer) are a worldwide phenomenon.

5. How long does is take to form a fossil?
One proof that animals can be fossilized very quickly was found at the Green River Formation (Wyoming, USA). A fish was apparently trapped in sediment and buried while part–way through swallowing another fish. Another fossil shows a fish, which has already eaten its meal, but has not yet had a chance to digest it. This evidence proves that fossils do not take thousands or millions of years to form.

The best evidence against the idea of slow burial of fossils has always been in the many millions of well–preserved fossil fish, often showing such things as scales and fins in exquisite detail. This would prove that these fish were buried quickly before scavengers got to them. We do not observe carpets of dead fish, or even their skeletons, on the sea floor today waiting to become fossils. Also, if the sediment did not harden fairly soon after entombing the fish, oxygen and bacteria could still get at the specimens, causing decay and ruining the features.

In another example, there is an exquisitely preserved fossil of an extinct marine reptile called an ichthyosaur. The mother ichthyosaur is shown having almost completed giving birth to a live infant—the beak of the young reptile is still inside mother's birth canal. In this spectacular case, not only is the fossil exquisitely preserved, but the fact that mother and infant are 'trapped' in a not-yet-completed birth process makes it profoundly clear that both were rapidly overwhelmed by catastrophic burial, consistent with the world flood of Noah's day. It is, of course, not feasible that mother just lay on the bottom of the ocean floor giving birth for thousands of years while being slowly covered up by accumulating sediments!

6. Could the water have covered above all the mountains?
Is there enough water to cover all the earth’s pre-flood mountains in a global flood? Most people do not realize that the volume of water on earth is ten times greater than the volume of all land above sea level. If the solid earth were perfectly smooth, water depth would be 9,000 feet everywhere. For example, the Marianas Trench in the Pacific Ocean is 11,033 meters (36,201 feet) below sea level. If Mount Everest were placed inside of this trench, it would disappear.

At this present time 70% of the earth is covered by water. If this water could be brought to an average water level and smoothed out over the face of the Earth it would cover the earth approximately 2 miles deep. In Psalm 104:5-9, we see that after the universal flood, God caused the water to dissipate and recede by raising the mountains higher and sinking the valleys lower. God arranged the earth's topography to create deep ocean basins to displace the water.

A precise date for Noah's Deluge is indicated by sacred astronomical calendars and confirmed by witnesses of Enoch, his father Jared, and even the Savior.

In last month's article, "Venus and the Beginning of Mortality," we saw that a precise date for the expulsion of Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden was indicated by a holy day alignment between the Venus calendar and the Hebrew calendar, which was verified by several other witnesses.[1] The day Sun 9 Apr 4001 BC on our calendar was Passover on the Hebrew calendar and 1 Creation on the Venus calendar. That establishes the beginning date from which we can measure all of the chronology provided by the Lord for us in the Book of Genesis. Using that same method to calculate dates for the birth and translation of the prophet Enoch, and for the Great Deluge of Noah. The Lord's method of using multiple witnesses will again be recognized in synchronisms with events from the life of Enoch's father Jared, as well as with the date of the baptism of Jesus Christ. These multiple testimonies should leave no doubt about the correctness of the dates proposed.

1. Enoch

Enoch prophesied of the Great Flood. The part of Genesis which most of us skip over are those long lists of "begats." Those records do, however, provide the key to the chronology of the history of the human race. The usual method for calculating dates based on those genealogies is simply to add up the ages of fathers at the births of their sons.[2] That approach is fine for an approximation. The exact dates of the births of some of those patriarchs are indicated on sacred astronomical calendars. Those dates may differ by a year or so from the approximation because of how the fractional parts of the years add up.

An important point to consider is that only a few of the patriarchs were born on a holy day on the Venus calendar, even though it appears at this time that all of them were born on Hebrew calendar holy days. There are indications of calendars for each of the planets (except Pluto), and many of those patriarchs may have been born on yet undiscovered holy days on other planetary calendars. Because it is only the Venus and Mercury calendars which are understood at the present time, clues will be sought to discover which patriarchs may have been born on holy days on the Venus calendar.


1.2 Enoch's Translation
Having a proposed date for Enoch's birth and the clue that the 430-year length of his life might have been a Venus cycle, we can immediately find the day indicated for his translation. It is either Wed 12 Oct 2948 BC or the day following, being the days 0 Lord and 1 Lord on the Venus calendar. The first choice would mark the exact completion of 269 Venus cycles. We saw a similar symbolism with Adam, whose first day in the mortal world was on the first day of the Venus cycle (1 Creation), and who died on the last day (0 Creation). But in the case of Enoch, the following day 1 Lord would also seem appropriate, being the day on which to become one with God.

Do we have other witnesses that either of these days is correct? In particular, was either of those two days also holy on other sacred calendars? The proposed birthday was sacred on four calendars and one would expect that Enoch's translation date would be no less important. Here we are not disappointed because Wed 12 Oct 2948 BC was also a holy day on four sacred calendars. First, it was 13 Reed on the Sacred Round. As currently understood, Reed symbolizes the perfection of body achieved after resurrection,[8] and 13 also symbolizes completeness. The day was 0 Resurrection on the Mercury calendar, a second witness of that symbolism. And finally, on the Hebrew calendar, the day was 17 Heshvan, a minor holy day, which will now be discussed. Thus both the birth and translation dates of Enoch form a matched set of sacred dates, which is so improbable to have occurred by chance that it constitutes a strong witness that we have these two dates correct. Now let us turn to the date of the Great Deluge.

The day the dove returned with the olive branch was recorded.
The Flood It is easy to look for a date for the Great Deluge because not only is an approximate year given in the Bible, but also the very day on which the Flood began. In fact, one of the most surprising aspects of the account of the Flood is that so many precise dates are included. Until that point in Genesis, not one date is given to the very day, but only the ages of the patriarchs. Then suddenly we are told the day on which the ark was loaded, the day the flood began when the fountains of the deep erupted, the day the rain stopped, the day the water crested, the day the ark rested, the day the first mountain top was visible, the days on which Noah sent various birds out to retrieve evidence of the water abating, the day he removed the covering from the ark, and the day the earth was dry (Gen. 7:7-8:14). Now what is all that about? The day the earth was dry? What does that even mean? No puddles? Why would the Lord reveal this incredibly detailed list of dates? It must be a very important pattern.

For now, let us content ourselves with the question of simply determining at least one of these dates: the day on which the Flood began. That day is so important we shall refer to it simply as the "Flood."

The year given for the Flood is the 600th year of Noah's life (Gen. 7:11), which, according to adding up the ages of the patriarchs should be about 1,656 years after the Beginning of Mortality, or about 2345 BC. The day indicated is 17 Heshvan, at that time the second month, and the traditional Hebrew understanding of when the Flood began. Checking the various sacred calendars near that year leads to a date which will be shown to have overwhelmingly strong support: Sat 16 Nov 2343 BC. Counting 17 Heshvan as a minor holy day, the day was also a holy day on only one other known sacred calendar, being the Last Day of Tabernacles on the Enoch Fixed calendar (21 Autumn). But the important alignment date on the Venus calendar was the day on which the ark was loaded, one week earlier.

The day the ark was loaded was the Venus alignment date.

Noah's Ark
The scripture states that the ark was loaded one week prior to the Flood (Gen. 7:7-10). Why should the detail of that date be included? It appears to be because that was the date of the Venus alignment for the Flood, which was a holy day on four calendars. The day Sat 9 Nov 2343 BC was 13 Reed (Sacred Round), 14 Autumn (Feast of Tabernacles, Enoch Fixed), 0 Prime (Venus), and 0 Creation (Mercury). That alignment alone, although rare, is not compelling that we have the dates correct yet. What is compelling, however, is the array of other witnesses which testify of this date. It is so important that it needs a name, so let us refer to that day as "Noah's Ark." Now let us consider its relation to the baptism date of the Savior.

Baptism of Jesus Christ
The date of the baptism of Jesus Christ was most likely Sat 6 Oct AD 29.[10] That date was indicated because it was the Day of Atonement on the Hebrew calendar, the proper day to reconcile oneself with God. It is the most sacred day of the Hebrew year, and the fact that John the Baptist was preaching repentance to a large congregation who came forth to be baptized fits most perfectly with it having been on that day. Moreover, the very voice of God was heard on that day testifying, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased" (Mat. 3:17). The Savior made a point of fulfilling the law of Moses to the very letter and would have been baptized on the proper day for it. Confirmation in astronomical cycles was found in both the Enoch Fixed calendar and also the Mercury calendar.[11]

The day Jesus was baptized was a holy day on all seven sacred calendars. At the time that date was first proposed, not all of the seven sacred calendars being referenced were even recognized. Now a further witness to the correctness of that date is found in the fact that it was a holy day on all seven of the sacred calendars. It was 10 Tishri (Atonement on Hebrew), 13 Water (Sacred Round), 14 Autumn (Tabernacles on both the Enoch and Enoch Fixed), 0 Prime (Venus), 0 Creation (Mercury) and 1 Hakkoz (Priest, provided that the baptism was in the afternoon). Such a date only occurs about once per century, so it is remarkable that the date of the Savior's Resurrection was also holy on all 7 calendars and it occurred only three and a half years later. But what does the baptism of Jesus Christ have to do with Great Flood?

Baptism of the Earth
The Great Flood was the baptism of the earth by water. For example: FLOOD WAS BAPTISM OF EARTH. Now a word as to the reason for the flood. It was the baptism of the earth, and that had to be by immersion. If the water did not cover the entire earth, then it was not baptized, for the baptism of the Lord is not pouring or sprinkling.[12] (capitalization and emphasis his)

"All the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered." (Gen. 7:19) He was well aware of the line of reasoning against a universal Flood based on arguments about the current heights of mountains and current amounts of water, but he strongly testified that, notwithstanding the wisdom of man, the Flood did indeed cover every mountain top at least briefly.[13] Now consider the following which supports this teaching.

The proposed date for Noah's Ark is on a day 14 Autumn (Enoch Fixed), 0 Prime (Venus) and 0 Creation (Mercury). The proposed date for the Savior's Baptism is also on a day 14 Autumn (Enoch Fixed), 0 Prime (Venus) and 0 Creation (Mercury). How rare is such an alignment? Using my current models for the calendars, there are only 22 dates during the 7,000 years of the earth's history which meet those criteria. That means there is only about one day every 350 years so similar to the day of the Savior's baptism. The fact that Noah's Ark day, which was determined to the very day from the Biblical account, happens to be one of those rare days should establish that the alignment is not due to blind chance.

Figure 1. The interval from Noah's Ark to Christ's Baptism was the best alignment of Venus with the Enoch Fixed calendar in 7,000 years. But the alignment of Venus with the 364-day year of the Enoch Fixed calendar is even better than that. The two dates are separated by exactly 2,379 Enoch Fixed years of 364 days, or 865,956 days.[14] Amazingly, that is a "realignment cycle" for Venus with the Enoch Fixed Calendar. That means that there is no shorter period which is so nearly an exact number of Venus cycles. Stated differently, 1,483 Venus cycles of 583.92166 days each = 865,955.82 days. Thus, the average position of Venus only differs by 0.18 days between the two dates. No smaller multiple of 364 days is so accurate.[15] Of the 20 other aligning dates, there is no better match in 7,000 years to the proposed date of the Flood than is the date of the Savior's baptism. Thus, this one alignment alone is compelling evidence to establish both of the proposed dates, as well as the concept that the Flood was the baptism of the earth.

Let us now consider the next witness: the alignment with Enoch's translation date.

Enoch's Witness
As we saw above, Enoch's proposed translation date is on 17 Heshvan (Hebrew) and also 13 Reed (Sacred Round). Now we see that the proposed flood dates are 13 Reed for Noah's Ark, and 17 Heshvan for the Flood. Either one of these coincidences alone could be by chance, but to have Enoch's translation link to two Flood dates seems worthy of more investigation.

Why should Enoch's translation date align with the Flood? It is most likely a secondary effect. There is a pattern the Lord seems to use that parents' vital dates are linked to those of their children.[16] Enoch's father was Jared. As we shall now see, it is really Jared who is the grand witness of the date of the Flood, and his death date is linked to his son Enoch, and so Enoch's dates are indirectly tied to the Flood. Let us now turn to our star witness.

Jared's birth, ordination, and death dates testify of the Flood.

Jared's Dates
The ancient patriarchs had meaningful names. The current time it appears that the vital dates of the antediluvian patriarchs all relate to Jesus Christ. In Hebrew the name "Jared" means "to descend." It is the same root (has same consonants) as "Jordan," which is said to be the lowest river on earth. When the Savior was baptized in the River Jordan, in a sense he was descending into the deepest depths. Thus, it is proposed that the name Jared signals us that he is related to the baptism of Jesus Christ, and hence indirectly to the baptism of the earth.

Jared's Birth Date
Searching through the year 3540 BC, an ideal date for Jared's birth is found: Mon 30 May 3540 BC pm. That was 1 Sivan (Hebrew, on which the first day of every month is a minor holy day), 1 Eagle (Sacred Round), and 1 Prime (Venus). Thus we have a Venus holy day coinciding with a Hebrew holy day, and the Venus day happens to be the one corresponding to the Savior's baptism. Another witness that this date is correct is that there is a link to his son Enoch, who was also born on 1 Eagle.

Jared's Death Date
Jared lived 962 years, the second longest life listed in the Bible. Looking for his death date is also fruitful: Mon 3 Nov 2578 BC, which was 17 Heshvan (Hebrew), 13 Jaguar (the holy day preceding 1 Eagle on the Sacred Round), and 0 Prime (Venus). Here we see another link to his son who also left earth on 17 Heshvan, two links to the Flood (17 Heshvan and 0 Prime), and one link to the Savior's baptism (0 Prime). These are all witnesses that we have found the right date and that both his birth and death dates are related to the two great baptisms of the earth and Savior. It is astounding that by simply believing the Bible enough to search the indicated year that these rare dates can be found which interlock with each other like gears in a perfectly designed timepiece.

Figure 2. The many interlocking father-son relationships between Jared and Enoch. One startling result for the length of Jared's life is that it an exact number of Sacred Rounds (starting on 1 Eagle and ending on 13 Jaguar), and also of Venus cycles (beginning on 1 Prime and ending on 0 Prime). That is very difficult to do. Don't try this at home unless you plan on living 97.52 years. That is the first interval in which the Venus cycle comes out even in Sacred Rounds (61 x 583.92166 = 137 x 260 days). An even better realignment interval of Venus with the Sacred Round occurs at 301 x 583.92166 = 676 x 260 = 175,760 days, which is about 481 years. Arguments for creation arise spontaneously just from how organized these numbers are. For example, that interval equals 4 x 13 x 13 Sacred Rounds of 13 x 20 days each, rather than simply being some random number. Both of these intervals were known to the Mayans who used them to reset their Venus calendar.[17] Jared lived for exactly two of those realignment intervals to the very day.[18] Most of these amazingly rare alignments required patriarchs who lived many hundred years. Figure 2 illustrates the intricate father-son alignments between Jared and Enoch, as well as how Jared's life aligned with both the Venus calendar and the Sacred Round. It is amazing to me that so many rare father-son alignments are even possible. It is not just that we have found rare dates in the very years indicated. The interaction between the birth-death date pairs, coupled with the interaction between father-son pairs is overwhelming evidence that these dates are correct, and that an omniscient God scheduled these lives to perfectly fit his solar system timepiece.

Jared's Witnesses of Two Baptisms
Now let us consider how these three dates in the life of Jared testify both of the date of the Great Deluge and of the Savior's Baptism.

Jared's Venus alignments with both Noah's Ark and Christ's baptism testify of those dates. Five Venus Calendar Alignments Jared's proposed birth date is on the day 1 Prime of the Venus cycle, and the dates of his ordination and death, of Noah's Ark, and of the baptism of Christ all occur on 0 Prime, the last day of a Venus cycle which began on 1 Prime. Thus, all of the known dates for Jared align on the Venus Calendar with both baptisms, as shown in Figure 3, which is totally beyond chance.

Jared's ordination testifies of loading the ark.
2.6.2 From Jared's Ordination to Noah's Ark
The interval from the ordination of Jared to Noah's Ark was 364,364 days. The principal realignment interval of the Venus cycle with the day is 7,007 days (12 Venus cycles of 583.92 days = 7,007.04 days). That number 7,007 is equal 7 x 7 x 11 x 13 days. The fact that it is such an accurate interval, and that it is divisible by 13, is what enables it to be the basis of the Venus calendar. It is also a miniature of all of history because it can be thought of as 7 periods of 1,001 days each, similar to seven millennial days of 1,000 years each. The interval of 1,001 days is very useful as a long "day" because it comes out even in both weeks and 13-day intervals and also increments by one on the 20-cycle. For example, beginning from the day Sun 1 Light, a 1,001 day interval later falls on Sun 1 Wind (Wind is the glyph following Light).

With that in mind, the interval from Jared's ordination to Noah's ark can therefore be thought of in at least three different ways. It was a) 52 Venus realignment cycles of 7,007 days each, or b) 1,001 Enoch Fixed years of 364 days each, or c) one "Grand Enoch Year" of 364 "long days" of 1,001 days each.

Jared's Ordination, Noah's Ark, and Christ's Baptism are separated by multiples of 13 Enoch years of 364 days, with the outer interval also even in Sacred Rounds of 260 days.
2.6.3 Jared's Ordination to the Baptism of Christ
Even more impressive is the relationship of Enoch's ordination date to the date of the baptism of Jesus Christ. He was baptized on a day 13 Water (Sacred Round), 14 Autumn (Enoch Fixed), and 0 Prime (Venus), all of which match the ordination date. The fact that it was the same Venus day on both the Sacred Round of 260 days and also the Enoch Fixed calendar of 364 days is rare indeed. The exact number of days between the two dates is impressive in itself. The dates of Jared's ordination and the Baptism of Christ are separated by exactly 13 x 260 x 364 days.[19] The number 13 is foundational to both the Sacred Round (260 = 20 x 13) and the Enoch Calendar (364 = 28 x 13), so the fact that 13 times their product just happens to be an exact number of Venus cycles is yet another argument for the design of the orbit of Venus to fit these calendars, which is just what the Mayans believed. These numeric relationships of Jared's ordination date both to Noah's Ark and also to the Savior's baptism. Note that both of the intervals to Noah's Ark are multiples of 13 Enoch Fixed years of 364 days, but that the overall interval is also a multiple of 260 days.

Picture drawn from eye-witness accounts of the ark on Mt. Ararat. Jared's Death and the Flood Jared died exactly 235 years before the Flood according to the Hebrew calendar, both dates being on 17 Heshvan. That interval is not fully understood at this time, but it appears to be the best interval to align not only the sun and moon (Hebrew calenar), but also the planets Mercury, Venus, Mars, and Saturn with the Priest cycle of 168 days. The relationships with Mars and Saturn are beyond my understanding at this point, as well as the apparent tie to the Priest cycle, but this information is included here to show the richness of the planetary interactions, and of yet undiscovered witnesses and symbolism.[21]

We have found an interlocking set of eight dates for Jared, his son Enoch, the Flood, and the Baptism of Jesus Christ. Each by itself is only one thread which may not be convincing. But the many interrelations between those threads create a tapestry, forming a vivid picture that testifies of the all of those events together. The probability of those interlocking alignments occurring by blind chance in the very years indicated by the Bible is so small that one is compelled to conclude that the proposed dates are correct. Moreover, it implies that the Creator scheduled the lives of those patriarchs according to an incredibly complex design, to leave a record of the great events of history, according to his foreknowledge. These results vindicate the Book of Genesis as a true historical and inspired document. There should be no doubt that there indeed was a Great Flood and that it began on Sat 16 Nov 2343 BC.

Moreover, what began as simply a chronological exercise to determine the date of the Great Deluge resulted in much more. At first there was no thought of extending the discussion into the realm of asking whether or not the Flood was truly worldwide. The surprising result was that the Flood is so closely tied to the baptism of Jesus Christ that there seems to be no escaping the comparison of the Flood to the baptism of the earth. Thus, it may be time for us to rethink any arguments we may have entertained about a localized Flood, and also of civilizations which we assume existed without interruption in the year 2343 BC, when the fountains of the great deep erupted, and "the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" (2 Peter 3:6).

Think Again

wait, so are you saying that a flood killed everyone on the planet, but some before they died took the time to write down the experience?

There are many flood stories of many diffrent floods.
But A worldwide flood did not happen.
We have evidence that it did not.

If there were writing of a worldwide flood that killed everyone it would be like, "on the first day of the floo...glug glug glug".

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You can not use the bible to prove the bible.

It's like saying that I have proof that an elephant saved an entire town of people living in a flower becouse I read it in Horton hears a hoo.

No. That 8 people survived the flood. From those 8 people the earth was repopulated. The story of the great flood from thier descentants wrote them down all around the earth

oh so they just retold a story that was told to them. Thats not proof of anything but a good story.

The greeks handed down stories of how poseidon stoped the rageing seas when they prayed to him.

Does that make those stories true?

There is also much evidence that it did...and the remember Noah and his family lived.....to tell the stories of the Baptism of the earth.

says who....it's all there every bit of evidence I need....Have you ever studied I mean really studied the Bible.....It's amazing stuff.....and the numbers, the puzzles the things that happened in order of how they were...Even up to present prophecy before Christ comes back...It's all there.....don't take my word read it...study it...and hopefully get some amazing teachers like I have had....no doubts here love.

Yes I have.

And no Prophecy from the bible has ever come true.

Jams Randi has offered 1 million dollars if someone can prove just 1 of the bible's prophecys. And no-one has even come forward.
The bible says the world is flat and that the earth is unmovable. We know both of these things are false.
That is how they saw the world back then, but you would think that a god that created everything would know better.
Why were the chinese never mentiond in the bible, we have artifacts that date to around the time of this flood was supposed to happen. Becouse they did not know about them.

Isa 40:22
22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.
NKJV

The Bible does not say the earth is flat. It also give a good discription of its atmosphere and what the earth looks like from space.

This guy has to be kidding about a million dollars.

Even as simple that at the time of the end knowlege would be greatly increased. Daniel said 3000 + years ago. Yahshua said at this time men would go to and fro.

Jeremiah said at this time we would shoot fiery arrows at our enemies.

That has no basis at all. It has been proven everyone so far of Daniels Prophecies have come true and he ain't done yet.


Isiaih talks about at the end thier would be great terror everywhere to where people will want to hide in a box.

Sounds like today to me.. shalom...Miles

First of all the earth is a sphere not a circle they new the diffrence even back then, and you would think that god would.
And those prophesies are very general and vague.
And the earth moves all the time, and yet...

Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”

Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...”

Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ...”

Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.”

Isaiah 45:18: “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...”


Further, the Bible frequently presents celestial bodies as exotic living beings. For example, “In them [the heavens], a tent is fixed for the sun, who comes out like a bridegroom from his wedding canopy, rejoicing like a strong man to run his race. His rising is at one end of the heavens, his circuit touches their farthest ends; and nothing is hidden from his heat (Psalm 19:4-6).” The stars are anthropomorphic demigods. When the earth's cornerstone was laid “the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted aloud (Job 38:7).” The morning star is censured for trying to set his throne above that of other stars:


You thought in your own mind, I will scale the heavens; I will set my throne high above the stars of God, I will sit on the mountain where the gods meet in the far recesses of the north. I will rise high above the cloud-banks and make myself like the most high (Isaiah 14:13-14).
Deuteronomy 4:15-19 recognizes the god-like status of stars, noting that they were created for other peoples to worship.

Stars can fall from the skies according to Daniel 8:10 and Matthew 24:29. The same idea is found in the following extracts from Revelation 6:13-16:


...the stars in the sky fell to the earth, like figs shaken down by a gale; the sky vanished, as a scroll is rolled up...they called out to the mountains and the crags, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of the One who sits on the throne...”

Especially since it is a made up story

if the bible is so true, then why are there no stories about dinosaurs. you cant say they dont exist. theres fossils to prove it. but no fossils to prove that humans existed at the forming of the earth.

Now lets remember the 1st Iraq war when we read this and remember He is trying to describe this scene the best he knew how.

Isa 5:26-30

26 And he will lift up an ensign to the nations from far, and will hiss unto them from the end of the earth: and, behold, they shall come with speed swiftly:

27 None shall be weary nor stumble among them; none shall slumber nor sleep; neither shall the girdle of their loins be loosed, nor the latchet of their shoes be broken:

28 Whose arrows are sharp, and all their bows bent, their horses' hoofs shall be counted like flint, and their wheels like a whirlwind:

29 Their roaring shall be like a lion, they shall roar like young lions: yea, they shall roar, and lay hold of the prey, and shall carry it away safe, and none shall deliver it.

30 And in that day they shall roar against them like the roaring of the sea: and if one look unto the land, behold darkness and sorrow, and the light is darkened in the heavens thereof.
KJV


Now if that is not a good description of Apache helicopters going across the desert I do not know what is. Then look what happens in verse 30. The oil wells Hussien set on fire darkened the sky .

I will leave it at that for now as i look into what you posted . Shalom...Miles

1st.. that is really stretching it saying the earth is immoverable. where has it gone to Pluto and back?



Your Ps. comment..

Ps 19:1-10

The heavens declare the glory of God;
And the firmament shows His handiwork.
2 Day unto day utters speech,
And night unto night reveals knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language
Where their voice is not heard.
4 Their line has gone out through all the earth,
And their words to the end of the world.

In them He has set a tabernacle for the sun,
5 Which is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber,
And rejoices like a strong man to run its race.
6 Its rising is from one end of heaven,
And its circuit to the other end;
And there is nothing hidden from its heat.

7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul;
The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple;
8 The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart;
The commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes;
9 The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever;
The judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
10 More to be desired are they than gold,
Yea, than much fine gold;
NKJV


This is speaking of Israel when he says in them.

He has set a tabernacle for the sun. The 100 year Reign of the Messiah is related to the Feasts of Yahweh you can find in Lev. 23.

The feast of Tabernacles is a portrait of Yahshua coming back for a 1000 years. As a Bridegroom.

During this 1000 years the Law of Yahweh will rule not mans law.This is Prophecy.

The sun you see is the coming of the Messiah who's brightness none can behold as it kills his enemies. Zech 14:9

Isa 14 is speaking of Satan and why he has fallen. He said he would rise above Yahweh.

Stars can represent a multitude of things. Rev calls stars the Angels. Which is probally what led the Magi.

Job. The Morning star here is Satan who is censered he can only do what Yahweh will allow him to. Hence Job 1 satan asks Yahweh to take the Hedge away from around Job and he would make him cuss Yahweh to his face.. Did not happen. Job held his ground.

Duet. what version are you using. This is warning the Israelites not to worship a graven image or idol..


Deut 4:15-19

"Take careful heed to yourselves, for you saw no form when Yahweh spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire, 16 lest you act corruptly and make for yourselves a carved image in the form of any figure: the likeness of male or female, 17 the likeness of any animal that is on the earth or the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the air, 18 the likeness of anything that creeps on the ground or the likeness of any fish that is in the water beneath the earth. 19 And take heed, lest you lift your eyes to heaven, and when you see the sun, the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, you feel driven to worship them and serve them, which Yahweh your Elohim has given to all the peoples under the whole heaven as a heritage
NKJV


I believe that is enough. You are getting Heretical contexts.

Are you looking these scriptures up or copying and pasting from a sight trying to prove the scriptures wrong?

Deuteronomy 4:15-19 recognizes the god-like status of stars, noting that they were created for other peoples to worship.

How do you get that from the scriptures quoted above.. That is a gross interpretation what is happening thier. Shalom..Miles

The early life of Jesus

About 2000 years ago a man named Jesus was born in the town of Bethlehem in the land of Israel. He was unique. He was fully God and yet fully human. God had allowed himself to be born as a man so that he could live and suffer among us, to serve as the perfect atonement for our sin, and to offer forgiveness and salvation to anyone who believes.
Manger illustration - Copyright Anne Kitzman
His birth, mission, death and resurrection were foretold by the prophets of the Old Testament of the Bible and revealed to us by the writers of the New Testament.

Jesus lived among his fellow Jews during a time when the boundaries of the Roman Empire included the land of Israel. He preached and performed miracles for three-and-a-half years until he was crucified by the Romans. He died on a wooden cross and was buried in a tomb.

But his life did not end in death. Jesus Christ was resurrected. And because he was perfect, he is able to open the doors to the Kingdom of God. And because he was sinless, he is able to forgive us our sins so that we too can be accepted into the Kingdom of God.

Jesus explains this in a passage of the Bible called John 3:16, when he said: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

The following is an overview of the life and teachings of Jesus Christ.

The virgin Mary is told she'll give birth to Jesus

(see Luke 1:26-38; Matthew 1:18-25) Read online
The New Testament books of Matthew and Luke explain the virgin birth of Jesus. Mary was engaged to a man named Joseph but not yet married. The angel Gabriel appeared to Mary and announced that she would have a son who would be named Jesus and who would be called the Son of God. Here is the NIV translation of Luke 1:27-35:

In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin's name was Mary. The angel went to her and said, "Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you."

Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. But the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God. You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever; his kingdom will never end."

"How will this be," Mary asked the angel, "since I am a virgin?"

The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God. - Luke 1:27-35 (NIV).

This event was foreshadowed centuries earlier when the prophet Isaiah (see Isaiah 7:14) spoke of a sign from God in which an "almah," meaning a young maiden, would give birth to a son who would be called "Immanuel," which is a Hebrew phrase that means "God with us." Because Jesus was God incarnate as a man, who lived among us, he literally was "God with us."

An interesting feature of the prophecy is that it speaks of a birth by a young maiden as a sign from God. Young maidens were culturally and religiously expected to be chaste prior to marriage. Given the expectation, and the fact that Isaiah speaks of the birth in the context of a sign from God, this prophecy is viewed by Christians as referring to a virgin birth.

Jesus is born in the town of Bethlehem

(see Luke 2:1-7) Read online
Shortly before Jesus was born, the Roman emperor Caesar Augustus decided that a census be taken throughout the Roman Empire, including the land of Israel. People were required to return to their ancestral homes for registration. For Joseph and Mary, that meant leaving Nazareth, which is a town in the northern district of Galilee, and traveling to Bethlehem, which is in the southern region called Judah or Judea.

After they arrived in Bethlehem, Mary was ready to give birth to Jesus. So Joseph and Mary went to a manger because they could not find other lodging. It was a manger, where animals are kept, that served as the humble place of birth for Jesus.

Bethlehem is an important city for Messianic prophecy. King David, who ruled over Israel about 1,000 years before the time of Jesus, was born in Bethlehem. And the prophet Micah, who lived about 700 years before Jesus, announced that Bethlehem would be the birthplace for the Messiah:

"But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times." - Micah 5:2 (NIV translation).

Ephrathah is the ancient name for the town of Bethlehem in Judah.

Star of Bethlehem appears

(see Matthew 2:1-2) Read online
When Jesus was born, a star appeared over Bethlehem. Scholars today speculate whether the star was a meteor, a supernatural phenomenon, an alignment of celestial bodies, or a literal star. Many scholars believe that Jesus was born sometime around 4 BC to 8 BC. It is interesting to note that ancient Chinese astronomy records indicate that there was a star-like object hovering somewhere over the Middle East for several days in the year 5 BC, about 2000 years ago.

King Herod tries to kill the new-born King (Jesus)

(see Matthew 2:3-12) Read online
The Star of Bethlehem attracted visitors from the East. These visitors believed that the star marked the birth of a new king. Perhaps the visitors were familiar with the Bible's prophecies and understood that a Messiah King would be born in Israel and that he would have an impact on the entire world.

But, Israel already had a ruler, King Herod the Great. He was not a true king but had been appointed by the Romans to govern the Jews in the land of Israel. Herod was described by Josephus, a Jewish historian who ived during the first century, as a murderous man who ordered the deaths of many of his own family members. When Herod found out that the visitors were hoping to find and worship the newborn king, Herod ordered the deaths of every infant in Bethlehem, in the hopes of killing the king that the visitors spoke of.

The infant Jesus and his parents escape to Egypt

(see Matthew 2:13-15) Read online
An angel warned Joseph of Herod's plans to murder the young children of Bethlehem. So Joseph and Mary took the baby Jesus to Egypt and they lived there until Herod died.
Photo of Cheops, Egypt - Copyright Andre Klaassen
In ancient times the people of Israel sometimes sought refuge in Egypt, including Jacob and his sons, who left the land of Israel during a time of famine. The Gospel of Matthew shows that many events in Jewish history are similar to events in the life of Jesus, reinforcing his role as the Messiah.

Jesus is taken back to Israel, to the town of Nazareth

(see Matthew 2:19-23) Read online
After the death of King Herod, Joseph, Mary and Jesus returned to the land of Israel. Joseph was afraid to return to Bethlehem because the town is near Jerusalem, where Herod Archelaus, the son of Herod, now reigned as king. So Joseph took his family to the northern district of Galilee, to a small town called Nazareth. This obscure town became the hometown of Jesus, where he grew up and became an adult.

Jesus as a young child visits the Lord's Temple

(see Luke 2:41-52) Read online
When Jesus was 12 years of age, he and his mother Mary and stepfather Joseph traveled to Jerusalem to celebrate the annual Feast of the Passover. When the feast had ended, Mary and Joseph became separated from Jesus and they searched for him. Jesus had gone to the Lord's Temple and conversed with the people there. The people were amazed by his depth of understanding and by his knowledge. When Mary found Jesus at the Temple, Jesus said to her: "Why were you searching for me?" he asked. "Didn't you know I had to be in my Father's house?" (Luke 2:49).


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