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"Thomas Jefferson, as we all know, was a skeptic, a man so hostile to Christianity that he scissored from his Bible all references to miracles. He was, as the Freedom From Religion Foundation tells us, "a Deist, opposed to orthodox Christianity and the supernatural."
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nah Krim, just give him a big can of crisco and a warm beer - that's a funch heaven.
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I never argued that point funches, just letting you know that these holidays (actually there are others as well) were assimilated and absorbed by the Christians. Halloween however is based in an ancient Celtic Pagan ritual and actually remains as such. but the immediate relatives of the founding fathers wasn't dancing around nude in the forest worshipping a pagan God ..they were worshipping the biblical God of christianity No they were Deists. Prove to me that a Deist is synonymous with a Christian and I will give you a cigar.  "Krimsa" not all deists are christian ..deists are those that dump the religion but kept the god...the god could be Rah, Allah, Yahweh or the teletubbies ... |
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I never argued that point funches, just letting you know that these holidays (actually there are others as well) were assimilated and absorbed by the Christians. Halloween however is based in an ancient Celtic Pagan ritual and actually remains as such. but the immediate relatives of the founding fathers wasn't dancing around nude in the forest worshipping a pagan God ..they were worshipping the biblical God of christianity No they were Deists. Prove to me that a Deist is synonymous with a Christian and I will give you a cigar. "Krimsa" not all deists are christian ..deists are those that dump the religion but kept the god...the god could be Rah, Allah, Yahweh or the teletubbies ... In fact no Deist is a Christian. If they choose to accept the bible and its mysticism and revelations and embrace Jesus as their lord and savior, then they are not Deists. Jefferson and those 6 were Deists. Maybe some others, but I dont know. No cigar for you! |
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"Thomas Jefferson, as we all know, was a skeptic, a man so hostile to Christianity that he scissored from his Bible all references to miracles. He was, as the Freedom From Religion Foundation tells us, "a Deist, opposed to orthodox Christianity and the supernatural." "Krimsa" Jefferson was so hostile to christianity that he celebrated christmas every year ... also why are you now resorting to "google cut and paste" stuff about Jefferson ...it's obvious those are not your words...atleast alter them some so they appear to be |
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I never argued that point funches, just letting you know that these holidays (actually there are others as well) were assimilated and absorbed by the Christians. Halloween however is based in an ancient Celtic Pagan ritual and actually remains as such. but the immediate relatives of the founding fathers wasn't dancing around nude in the forest worshipping a pagan God ..they were worshipping the biblical God of christianity No they were Deists. Prove to me that a Deist is synonymous with a Christian and I will give you a cigar. "Krimsa" not all deists are christian ..deists are those that dump the religion but kept the god...the god could be Rah, Allah, Yahweh or the teletubbies ... In fact no Deist is a Christian. If they choose to accept the bible and its mysticism and revelations and embrace Jesus as their lord and savior, then they are not Deists. Jefferson and those 6 were Deists. Maybe some others, but I dont know. No cigar for you! "Krimsa" didn't I say that some are ex-christians that dumped the religion but kept the christian god ...beside I don't smoke |
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"Thomas Jefferson, as we all know, was a skeptic, a man so hostile to Christianity that he scissored from his Bible all references to miracles. He was, as the Freedom From Religion Foundation tells us, "a Deist, opposed to orthodox Christianity and the supernatural." "Krimsa" Jefferson was so hostile to christianity that he celebrated christmas every year ... also why are you now resorting to "google cut and paste" stuff about Jefferson ...it's obvious those are not your words...atleast alter them some so they appear to be It has quotations on it! I never said it was my words. Im showing you there are EXTERNAL sources that back my claims. Duh. Scroll back for the origination of Christmas. |
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"Thomas Jefferson, as we all know, was a skeptic, a man so hostile to Christianity that he scissored from his Bible all references to miracles. He was, as the Freedom From Religion Foundation tells us, "a Deist, opposed to orthodox Christianity and the supernatural." "Krimsa" Jefferson was so hostile to christianity that he celebrated christmas every year ... also why are you now resorting to "google cut and paste" stuff about Jefferson ...it's obvious those are not your words...atleast alter them some so they appear to be It has quotations on it! I never said it was my words. Im showing you there are EXTERNAL sources that back my claims. Duh. Scroll back for the origination of Christmas. "Krimsa"...and you scroll back to the old testament...christians took and alter that too like they did christmas ...christmas now represent the birth of christ ...why is it so hard for you to comprehend that |
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Krimsa
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"Thomas Jefferson, as we all know, was a skeptic, a man so hostile to Christianity that he scissored from his Bible all references to miracles. He was, as the Freedom From Religion Foundation tells us, "a Deist, opposed to orthodox Christianity and the supernatural." "Krimsa" Jefferson was so hostile to christianity that he celebrated christmas every year ... also why are you now resorting to "google cut and paste" stuff about Jefferson ...it's obvious those are not your words...atleast alter them some so they appear to be It has quotations on it! I never said it was my words. Im showing you there are EXTERNAL sources that back my claims. Duh. Scroll back for the origination of Christmas. "Krimsa"...and you scroll back to the old testament...christians took and alter that too like they did christmas ...christmas now represent the birth of christ ...why is it so hard for you to comprehend that I dont understand the first part of that statement. The second part I would continually tell you that 1. Christmas was a Pagan holiday in origin which doesnt sound like you are arguing anymore. 2. Anyone can celebrate Christmas or Yule and not designate themselves as either a Christian or a Pagan. There are also external traditional and societal conventions that might compel a person to take part in holiday festivities. Therefore that proves nothing. I am still relying on what the actual Constitution of the US says. |
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Therefore that proves nothing. I am still relying on what the actual Constitution of the US says. right "Krimsa" and that the point of the thread ..the religious rely on what's written in the bible and you rely on what written in the big bang theory without reasoning beyond it your reasoning is ..if it's written therefore it's truth |
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Therefore that proves nothing. I am still relying on what the actual Constitution of the US says. right "Krimsa" and that the point of the thread ..the religious rely on what's written in the bible and you rely on what written in the big bang theory without reasoning beyond it your reasoning is ..if it's written therefore it's truth and your reasoning is what? It's only truth if it's not written? |
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Therefore that proves nothing. I am still relying on what the actual Constitution of the US says. right "Krimsa" and that the point of the thread ..the religious rely on what's written in the bible and you rely on what written in the big bang theory without reasoning beyond it your reasoning is ..if it's written therefore it's truth and your reasoning is what? It's only truth if it's not written? "Tribo" ..my reasoning is think beyond what is written simply because people lie or what was written may been written in a way to delude you ...didn't you realize that when you decided to leave christianity and become a truist deist |
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"Thomas Jefferson, as we all know, was a skeptic, a man so hostile to Christianity that he scissored from his Bible all references to miracles. He was, as the Freedom From Religion Foundation tells us, "a Deist, opposed to orthodox Christianity and the supernatural." "Krimsa" Jefferson was so hostile to christianity that he celebrated christmas every year ... also why are you now resorting to "google cut and paste" stuff about Jefferson ...it's obvious those are not your words...atleast alter them some so they appear to be It has quotations on it! I never said it was my words. Im showing you there are EXTERNAL sources that back my claims. Duh. Scroll back for the origination of Christmas. see "Krimas" you "google cut and paste" from articles like the religious "google cut and paste" from the bible ...don't worry my child I will help you to break your "google cut and paste" addiction ...geez i should start charging for these services I could rake in a small fortune in this forum |
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Therefore that proves nothing. I am still relying on what the actual Constitution of the US says. right "Krimsa" and that the point of the thread ..the religious rely on what's written in the bible and you rely on what written in the big bang theory without reasoning beyond it your reasoning is ..if it's written therefore it's truth and your reasoning is what? It's only truth if it's not written? "Tribo" ..my reasoning is think beyond what is written simply because people lie or what was written may been written in a way to delude you ...didn't you realize that when you decided to leave christianity and become a truist deist you think your mind is less delusional? funch without having first read and learned anything you could not form what you say your forming without reading, nor could you present it here. reading or hearing what is written by others or told by words is what all here base things on - if your looking for a pure non agenda means of finding truth - your not going to find it within your mind alone without having first based it on your knowledge that was first taught you by reading. and without reading in-depth on any subject - your not going to know if something has a right to be called truth or not, you can not think logically about a subject if all you have is a little info you've gleaned and then mix it with your own thoughts to come to a conclusion that you think will stand up in debate as being "the truth" it's only at that point your truth, you know that, so entering into debate here and even if you think your winning means nothing till you put it to the real test with those of acedamia who are able to bring forth objections to your truth that you may never think of while eating your greasy food and beer. |
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Therefore that proves nothing. I am still relying on what the actual Constitution of the US says. right "Krimsa" and that the point of the thread ..the religious rely on what's written in the bible and you rely on what written in the big bang theory without reasoning beyond it your reasoning is ..if it's written therefore it's truth and your reasoning is what? It's only truth if it's not written? "Tribo" ..my reasoning is think beyond what is written simply because people lie or what was written may been written in a way to delude you ...didn't you realize that when you decided to leave christianity and become a truist deist you think your mind is less delusional? funch without having first read and learned anything you could not form what you say your forming without reading, nor could you present it here. reading or hearing what is written by others or told by words is what all here base things on - if your looking for a pure non agenda means of finding truth - your not going to find it within your mind alone without having first based it on your knowledge that was first taught you by reading. and without reading in-depth on any subject - your not going to know if something has a right to be called truth or not, you can not think logically about a subject if all you have is a little info you've gleaned and then mix it with your own thoughts to come to a conclusion that you think will stand up in debate as being "the truth" it's only at that point your truth, you know that, so entering into debate here and even if you think your winning means nothing till you put it to the real test with those of acedamia who are able to bring forth objections to your truth that you may never think of while eating your greasy food and beer. "Tribo" it would have been a time you would have said the bible was truth...all I was referring to is you can't believe what may be written down somewhere as being truth or just because someone tells you it's truth ..it comes a time when you have to either think beyond or stagnate in the same realm of lies |
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Therefore that proves nothing. I am still relying on what the actual Constitution of the US says. right "Krimsa" and that the point of the thread ..the religious rely on what's written in the bible and you rely on what written in the big bang theory without reasoning beyond it your reasoning is ..if it's written therefore it's truth No. I am waiting for you to show me proof to somehow substantiate your position. Big difference. Not only that, you have yet to read or acknowledge ANY of my supportive evidence, or Sam's, or Jeremy's or anyone else who has participated on the thread. |
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Therefore that proves nothing. I am still relying on what the actual Constitution of the US says. right "Krimsa" and that the point of the thread ..the religious rely on what's written in the bible and you rely on what written in the big bang theory without reasoning beyond it your reasoning is ..if it's written therefore it's truth and your reasoning is what? It's only truth if it's not written? His reasoning is that whatever he says is truth and there is no reason to listen to anyone else.  Its like speaking with a really immature 8 year old who has to always "win":
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Therefore that proves nothing. I am still relying on what the actual Constitution of the US says. right "Krimsa" and that the point of the thread ..the religious rely on what's written in the bible and you rely on what written in the big bang theory without reasoning beyond it your reasoning is ..if it's written therefore it's truth No. I am waiting for you to show me proof to somehow substantiate your position. Big difference. Not only that, you have yet to read or acknowledge ANY of my supportive evidence, or Sam's, or Jeremy's or anyone else who has participated on the thread. well "Krimsa" the proof about what the founding fathers actually frame ..you fail to realize that you and in the future and get to see the results of what they frame...it paved the way for the country to be under the jurisdiction of christianity..it made christmas the birth of christ a federal holiday and place in "God We Trust" on all the usa currency which is linked to the bilical God as for you treating the big bang as a religious belief ...then explain where did the materials that form "The One Singularity" come from ..since the theory does not address this ... |
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Therefore that proves nothing. I am still relying on what the actual Constitution of the US says. right "Krimsa" and that the point of the thread ..the religious rely on what's written in the bible and you rely on what written in the big bang theory without reasoning beyond it your reasoning is ..if it's written therefore it's truth No. I am waiting for you to show me proof to somehow substantiate your position. Big difference. Not only that, you have yet to read or acknowledge ANY of my supportive evidence, or Sam's, or Jeremy's or anyone else who has participated on the thread. well "Krimsa" the proof about what the founding fathers actually frame ..you fail to realize that you and in the future and get to see the results of what they frame...it paved the way for the country to be under the jurisdiction of christianity..it made christmas the birth of christ a federal holiday and place in "God We Trust" on all the usa currency which is linked to the bilical God as for you treating the big bang as a religious belief ...then explain where did the materials that form "The One Singularity" come from ..since the theory does not address this ... No. As I have explained probably 20 times now. Its quite apparent that every time I provide answers to your questions, instead of then responding to mine in kind, you simply reply by asking more of your own and generally they are non related. This is in part how you keep the thread going.I fell for it a couple times but Im not going to allow you to continually fulfill that agenda. In other words, start answering some of my questions and actually refute my supportive evidence, or you will need to take these matters up with Sam or anyone else but it wont be me. These are some of the questions I have posed thus far that have gone unanswered by you. Or even addressed for that matter. 1. Why is the wording and the actual desired outcome of these historical documents to support a Deist and non-Christian agenda? 2. Prove that the Deists in ANY way shape or form associate themselves with Christianity. 3. Tackle the Treaty of Tripoli and article 11 specifically. 4. Prove that "In God we Trust" necessarily refers to the conceptualization of a biblical god specifically. We can start with those. |
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Therefore that proves nothing. I am still relying on what the actual Constitution of the US says. right "Krimsa" and that the point of the thread ..the religious rely on what's written in the bible and you rely on what written in the big bang theory without reasoning beyond it your reasoning is ..if it's written therefore it's truth No. I am waiting for you to show me proof to somehow substantiate your position. Big difference. Not only that, you have yet to read or acknowledge ANY of my supportive evidence, or Sam's, or Jeremy's or anyone else who has participated on the thread. well "Krimsa" the proof about what the founding fathers actually frame ..you fail to realize that you and in the future and get to see the results of what they frame...it paved the way for the country to be under the jurisdiction of christianity..it made christmas the birth of christ a federal holiday and place in "God We Trust" on all the usa currency which is linked to the bilical God as for you treating the big bang as a religious belief ...then explain where did the materials that form "The One Singularity" come from ..since the theory does not address this ... No. As I have explained probably 20 times now. Its quite apparent that every time I provide answers to your questions, instead of then responding to mine in kind, you simply reply by asking more of your own and generally they are non related. This is in part how you keep the thread going.I fell for it a couple times but Im not going to allow you to continually fulfill that agenda. In other words, start answering some of my questions and actually refute my supportive evidence, or you will need to take these matters up with Sam or anyone else but it wont be me. These are some of the questions I have posed thus far that have gone unanswered by you. Or even addressed for that matter. 1. Why is the wording and the actual desired outcome of these historical documents to support a Deist and non-Christian agenda? 2. Prove that the Deists in ANY way shape or form associate themselves with Christianity. 3. Tackle the Treaty of Tripoli and article 11 specifically. 4. Prove that "In God we Trust" necessarily refers to the conceptualization of a biblical god specifically. We can start with those. "Krimsa" you keep trying to read the mind of the founding fathers and the words written instead of looking at the results that their action lead to today ....the country is christian and they paved the way for it ....if all the founding fathers had roots in islam then the country would be muslim you would be naive to think that "in God we trust" does not refer to the bibical god and Jesus as god if the country was muslim the money would have "in allah we trust" and you would be wearing a burka |
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