Topic: Pro Life?....
Krimsa's photo
Wed 10/22/08 01:43 PM


rape is unfortunate, that doesnt give you the right to further go on after that unfortunate incident and commit another unfortunate act. deal with the rape itself, whatever u need to do to heal from it, but dont decide to kill an innocent baby who did nothing wrong


Rape is not "unfortunate."

Rape is cruel, rape is hellish, rape is brutal, rape is unspeakable... it is horrific, disgusting, ruthless, inhuman, and heartless.

After having lived through a rape, do you really think an 11-year-old girl should have to carry a fetus to term, a constant reminder of the violation she endured?

Also, A FETUS IS NOT A BABY.frustrated


This deserved repeating.

Etrain's photo
Wed 10/22/08 02:47 PM

have you ever heard of adoption?

So...your willing to adopt all these kids??? Or maybe someone else??? Our system is over run with children waiting to be adopted...huh huh huh

Etrain's photo
Wed 10/22/08 02:52 PM

rape is unfortunate, that doesnt give you the right to further go on after that unfortunate incident and commit another unfortunate act. deal with the rape itself, whatever u need to do to heal from it, but dont decide to kill an innocent baby who did nothing wrong

Hope it never happens to you...might change your thinking a bitsmokin

bergeia's photo
Wed 10/22/08 02:53 PM
she ran off anyhow, too many good points will drive an OP off usually,lol.

Lily0923's photo
Wed 10/22/08 02:57 PM

rape is unfortunate, that doesnt give you the right to further go on after that unfortunate incident and commit another unfortunate act. deal with the rape itself, whatever u need to do to heal from it, but dont decide to kill an innocent baby who did nothing wrong


If Goddess forbid you are ever in a situation where you are raped, I'd be interested in seeing if you have the same ideals...

I'll bet a million that no you won't think the same way.

Krimsa's photo
Wed 10/22/08 02:57 PM

she ran off anyhow, too many good points will drive an OP off usually,lol.


Well stop making so much sense! laugh

izzie's photo
Wed 10/22/08 03:02 PM

rape is unfortunate, that doesnt give you the right to further go on after that unfortunate incident and commit another unfortunate act. deal with the rape itself, whatever u need to do to heal from it, but dont decide to kill an innocent baby who did nothing wrong
wow.. how incredibly narrowminded of you..
must be nice to live in your oh so wonderful little crystal castle where everything is beautiful and wonderful!


enjoy your beautiful life where its all roses and daisys..

bergeia's photo
Wed 10/22/08 03:05 PM


rape is unfortunate, that doesnt give you the right to further go on after that unfortunate incident and commit another unfortunate act. deal with the rape itself, whatever u need to do to heal from it, but dont decide to kill an innocent baby who did nothing wrong


If Goddess forbid you are ever in a situation where you are raped, I'd be interested in seeing if you have the same ideals...

I'll bet a million that no you won't think the same way.


of course not, people with silver spoons never have to deal with bad thigns and when they do the world is ending.

izzie's photo
Wed 10/22/08 03:08 PM

you guys are always going to the negative extreme...

there are adopted children out there who are thankful to be alive, who have good homes and loving adoptive parents and who are thriving, if everyone decided that their fate was fixed that they had to die becuz they wud be a strain on resources or because they "probably" wud be raped or beaten... everyone would suffer that fate of death before even given a chance or choice to live a decent life.
the negative extreme.. here.. let me put this into prospective for you.

izzie's photo
Wed 10/22/08 03:09 PM

i realize im quoting myself.. but i thought id re enter my prospective....

this topic is extremely personal to me..
i have had an abortion.
say what you will... i had "enough" children already that i was raising on my own (their father walked out after 7 years and has not taken responsibility since), i was raped.. there was no way that i could aford the time off of work that it would have taken me to have the baby with my income being the only thing supporting my family... and there was no way that i thought i could support another mouth at that point, and adoption would have been a choice, but again the time off of work would have been to much at that point..
i think about that decision nearly every day...
the guilt eats me up inside.. and though i do not beleve i made the "wrong" decision.. i do beleve that some times there is no "right choice".

and i hope that anyone who would judge others for the decisions that they make, would never have to spend the time to walk a mile in their shoes.

belssings flowerforyou brokenheart :cry: :heart:


Etrain's photo
Wed 10/22/08 03:27 PM
According to the AFCARS Report (Adoption and Foster Care Analysis and Reporting System Report), there were 513,000 in the foster care system waiting for adoption as of September 30, 2005 in the United Statessmokin

Krimsa's photo
Wed 10/22/08 03:32 PM

According to the AFCARS Report (Adoption and Foster Care Analysis and Reporting System Report), there were 513,000 in the foster care system waiting for adoption as of September 30, 2005 in the United Statessmokin


Yeah thats not a realistic option, sorry right wingers. I guess its back on you to take care of these humans you have now forced to term. rant noway

Etrain's photo
Wed 10/22/08 03:34 PM


According to the AFCARS Report (Adoption and Foster Care Analysis and Reporting System Report), there were 513,000 in the foster care system waiting for adoption as of September 30, 2005 in the United Statessmokin


Yeah thats not a realistic option, sorry right wingers. I guess its back on you to take care of these humans you have now forced to term. rant noway

Thats right!!!!...whos first nowsmokin smokin smokin

Krimsa's photo
Wed 10/22/08 03:39 PM



According to the AFCARS Report (Adoption and Foster Care Analysis and Reporting System Report), there were 513,000 in the foster care system waiting for adoption as of September 30, 2005 in the United Statessmokin


Yeah thats not a realistic option, sorry right wingers. I guess its back on you to take care of these humans you have now forced to term. rant noway

Thats right!!!!...whos first nowsmokin smokin smokin


Well obviously only the babies and they probably wont want any mentally or physically disabled. Its so hypocritical. I dont know if those stats gave the age breakdown but non-white children generally are not adopted as quickly and the older they become, they are also less likely to be placed. Then they simply become wards of the foster care system until the state penitentiaries can take over their "care".

no photo
Wed 10/22/08 03:58 PM

I'm Pro-Government Should Butt Out!shades

QFT

Jim519's photo
Thu 10/23/08 02:58 AM
I like Peanut Butter :banana:

bad_girl's photo
Thu 10/23/08 03:01 AM
Pro-choice

bad_girl's photo
Thu 10/23/08 03:01 AM
Morning Handsomeblushing

I like Peanut Butter :banana:

Jim519's photo
Thu 10/23/08 03:15 AM
Here is a true life scenario....

(For the man)

Your in a relationship with someone you deeply love for 8 years.

SHe gets pregnant and its exciting for both of you. You go through the whole 9 month term, baby showers from the family, thousands of dollars spent on you for gifts, prepare and decorate the room, etc. The night she goes into labor and on the way to the hospital,...she tells you there is a chance it may not be yours now. She was with a different ethnic man and thats how you will know. Obviously your shocked and dont know what to do now. You stay in the delivery room still with hopes, baby comes out and its obvious it is not yours....

Obviously abortion is out of the question, but the Mother/Wife expects you to still Father this child......

This did happen to me, the context of it COULD NEVER be understood through typing.

In sense I did lose a child, the child I prepared for, for over 9 months. Then taken away from me in a matter of hours.

But guess what, I got over it and moved on in life. And then I was blessed with a child that adores me and I adore her, no one will ever be able to take that away now :smile:

Fade2Black's photo
Thu 10/23/08 03:40 AM
Edited by Fade2Black on Thu 10/23/08 03:48 AM


According to the AFCARS Report (Adoption and Foster Care Analysis and Reporting System Report), there were 513,000 in the foster care system waiting for adoption as of September 30, 2005 in the United Statessmokin


Yeah thats not a realistic option, sorry right wingers. I guess its back on you to take care of these humans you have now forced to term. rant noway


I wouldn't consider myself a 'right-winger' but adoption IS a VERY viable option, and actually there is a move in Colorado alone, for churches to partner together and adopt the children in the foster care program.

I agree there hasn't been enough support for those already here, but I think that's changing in the minds of many.

And btw, the only difference between a fetus and a baby is it's ability to survive without support of the mother, which given today's medical technology has been brought down by months. And in fact when mothers are given the OPTION to SEE their growing baby via ultrasound, almost always choose life.

God provided the womb as a safe place for the baby to develop, not as a death chamber. "Having an abortion doesn't make you 'unpregnant.' It makes you the mother of a dead baby.":cry:

Let's face it. We go about pro-life pro-choice upside down.

frustrated I'll repeat it again .. the choice begins BEFORE conception. Teach abstinence, not abortion. frustrated flowers Instead of just giving girls one more instant gratification by aborting a baby that never needed to be conceived, teach them to stay pure or use protection and not create a problem they go to extremes to delete.

And please whoa .. if anyone spouts one more 'rape' excuse frustrated Less than 1% .. ONE PERCENT huh of abortions are due to rape/incest/threat to mom's life. PUHLEEZE. I don't think anyone can argue that necessity.



Oh ya .. and I DO speak from experience, having carried a baby to full-term @ 16 AND then making a very poor choice of ending a different pregnancy.