Topic: Take Your Flag And Stove It
adj4u's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:37 PM







Yes, I would be the first to fly a peace, united human race flag, were one ever to exist.

What I am saying is why is it ok for jewish people to be offended by the use of the swastika and for everyone to get why the people who use it are racist? But oh no the confederate flag should be respected.


It's all an assumption like the one regarding the American Flag, the Gay Pride Flag, the Confederate Flag. We assume therefore it must be

All just material - it's how 'we individually' define then and place value on them that makes us stay stagnant and incapable of moving on and upward.

jmo
Good for you that you are so unconcerned with the reality of today, but until the people that worship that symbol give it up I will be there to call them racist. For my ancestors were victimized by them and SHOULD BE RESPECTED not that symbol


How are you respecting their memories, by instigating and continually perpetrating negativity?

Dont misunderstand I live and am an active member of the real world. I worship no one, and certainly not a piece of fabric.


Because I refuse to let them created a fiction of what their ancestors did and so make it alright! How can you justify you family as being noble to fight for "states rights" while they were with- holding basic human rights of others. How can you not get how disgusting and loathesome that is?



how do you know they held slaves

very few southerners held slaves and even lower percentage of confederate soldiers had slaves
you are right, they were and still are po white trash and that is why they are so hateful, they have nothing to show for themselves despite the fact they are white Oh yeah, 95% of the population in Mississippi was Black at the end of the civil war wonder what it is now Y'all can have your south.


your line ---- they were and still are po white trash and that is why they are so hateful---

now who is the one being racist and hateful

interesting

very interesting

Drivinmenutz's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:38 PM








Yes, I would be the first to fly a peace, united human race flag, were one ever to exist.

What I am saying is why is it ok for jewish people to be offended by the use of the swastika and for everyone to get why the people who use it are racist? But oh no the confederate flag should be respected.


It's all an assumption like the one regarding the American Flag, the Gay Pride Flag, the Confederate Flag. We assume therefore it must be

All just material - it's how 'we individually' define then and place value on them that makes us stay stagnant and incapable of moving on and upward.

jmo
Good for you that you are so unconcerned with the reality of today, but until the people that worship that symbol give it up I will be there to call them racist. For my ancestors were victimized by them and SHOULD BE RESPECTED not that symbol


How are you respecting their memories, by instigating and continually perpetrating negativity?

Dont misunderstand I live and am an active member of the real world. I worship no one, and certainly not a piece of fabric.


Because I refuse to let them created a fiction of what their ancestors did and so make it alright! How can you justify you family as being noble to fight for "states rights" while they were with- holding basic human rights of others. How can you not get how disgusting and loathesome that is?



how do you know they held slaves

very few southerners held slaves and even lower percentage of confederate soldiers had slaves
you are right, they were and still are po white trash and that is why they are so hateful, they have nothing to show for themselves despite the fact they are white Oh yeah, 95% of the population in Mississippi was Black at the end of the civil war wonder what it is now Y'all can have your south.


your line ---- they were and still are po white trash and that is why they are so hateful---

now who is the one being racist and hateful

interesting

very interesting


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franshade's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:39 PM



Because I refuse to let them created a fiction of what their ancestors did and so make it alright! How can you justify you family as being noble to fight for "states rights" while they were with- holding basic human rights of others. How can you not get how disgusting and loathesome that is?



misread your post the first time - had to reread -your definition of honoring your ancestors and mine are quite different (no surprise there waving)

I honor my ancestors by making sure to keep their memories alive and fresh. Not by sharing, instilling or teaching hatred or dislike.

But I am open to the stories of others, I am willing to learn, research, find out, I respect the stories of others, however, I am not swayed by most stories.

The only things that can affect us are those we allow :thumbsup:

I an not the one teaching hatred, they are by insisting on glorifying a past that they should be, hell all americans should be ashamed of.



read my last sentence - The only things that can affect you/us are those we allow.

If you/we do not allow others to dictate how we feel, they have no power

no power = no control

no control = no hatred (I hope) should equal = peace, love and unity


united as one people -- hell never know maybe in my lifetime flowerforyou

enderra's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:39 PM
i said if you can't understand why you should not fly that flag then you are ignorant or a racist period. I di not say that all white southerns are racist.

adj4u's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:41 PM

i said if you can't understand why you should not fly that flag then you are ignorant or a racist period. I di not say that all white southerns are racist.


your line ---- they were and still are po white trash and that is why they are so hateful---

that line is a blanket line and is very racist

faithnomoread's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:41 PM
No, not all white southerners are not racist, I lived in Russellville, Ar. and only about 50% of them were.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:41 PM

i said if you can't understand why you should not fly that flag then you are ignorant or a racist period. I di not say that all white southerns are racist.


ad hominem

franshade's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:43 PM


i said if you can't understand why you should not fly that flag then you are ignorant or a racist period. I di not say that all white southerns are racist.


ad hominem


:thumbsup:

Enjoy your weekend all flowerforyou

Drivinmenutz's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:44 PM

No, not all white southerners are not racist, I lived in Russellville, Ar. and only about 50% of them were.


I lived in Lousianna for a few years, spent some time in tennesee as well. I may have met one or two racist people, and i met A LOT of people.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:44 PM



i said if you can't understand why you should not fly that flag then you are ignorant or a racist period. I di not say that all white southerns are racist.


ad hominem


:thumbsup:

Enjoy your weekend all flowerforyou


You too!!flowers flowers flowers

enderra's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:45 PM
No one dictates how I feel, because I am right, I do not turn the other cheek on people like that because it is time for them to be brought down. It is time for a spade to be called a spade, no pun intended. You can lead the peace parties all you want.flowers

I want the symbol that my grandchildren only see in a history book.

adj4u's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:47 PM
it is hard to overcome anything from the past as long as there are those that keep bringing it up


and by the way virgina was a southern state

and held the capitol of the confederacy

franshade's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:49 PM
Edited by franshade on Fri 10/10/08 01:49 PM

No one dictates how I feel, because I am right, I do not turn the other cheek on people like that because it is time for them to be brought down. It is time for a spade to be called a spade, no pun intended. You can lead the peace parties all you want.flowers

I want the symbol that my grandchildren only see in a history book.


the wheels of this bus go
round and round
round and round
round and round

such extreme to be a martyr - good luck

wanna take people down, take down George Bush - take down the government, take down people who will have an influence and affect the next generation not the past generation.



peace and love

adj4u's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:49 PM

No one dictates how I feel, because I am right, I do not turn the other cheek on people like that because it is time for them to be brought down. It is time for a spade to be called a spade, no pun intended. You can lead the peace parties all you want.flowers

I want the symbol that my grandchildren only see in a history book.



well you can go to africa and kill the descendants of those that captured others and sold them into slavery

might as well go to the source first

no photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:50 PM


No one dictates how I feel, because I am right, I do not turn the other cheek on people like that because it is time for them to be brought down. It is time for a spade to be called a spade, no pun intended. You can lead the peace parties all you want.flowers

I want the symbol that my grandchildren only see in a history book.


the wheels of this bus go
round and round
round and round
round and round

such extreme to be a martyr - good luck

wanna take people down, take down George Bush - take down the government, take down people who will have an influence and affect the next generation not the past generation.



peace and love


flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou

faithnomoread's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:50 PM
Well I'm a mutt and don't care, I probably have 6 races in me, some including, German, Cherokee, and Irish to name a few, whos gonna hate me? And who am I gonna hate. Everybody I guess. LOL, I'm just kidding. That's why I am an Amercian. Let's love everybody (except sex offenders, they shouldn't be considered human and therefore they shouldn't have human rights.).

enderra's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:51 PM

it is hard to overcome anything from the past as long as there are those that keep bringing it up


and by the way virgina was a southern state

and held the capitol of the confederacy
Duh, I would happy to let sleeping dogs lie, tell them to put the flags down.

Btw, what I meant by leaving the south to you whites is that in fact blacks did flee the south. people know when they are not welcome.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:51 PM
Since slavery was still around in the late 18th century would it be racist if i flew the Old flag that stood for the original thirteen colonies? Cuz i really think im gonna start flying that flag...

Drivinmenutz's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:53 PM


it is hard to overcome anything from the past as long as there are those that keep bringing it up


and by the way virgina was a southern state

and held the capitol of the confederacy
Duh, I would happy to let sleeping dogs lie, tell them to put the flags down.

Btw, what I meant by leaving the south to you whites is that in fact blacks did flee the south. people know when they are not welcome.


Why not let it stand for something just, like the fighting of corruption? Why translate the symbol into something racist and breed hate from it? Don't they call that "hatemongering"?

adj4u's photo
Fri 10/10/08 01:53 PM


it is hard to overcome anything from the past as long as there are those that keep bringing it up


and by the way virgina was a southern state

and held the capitol of the confederacy
Duh, I would happy to let sleeping dogs lie, tell them to put the flags down.

Btw, what I meant by leaving the south to you whites is that in fact blacks did flee the south. people know when they are not welcome.



well read your history books the north did not welcome them neither