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Topic: Take Your Flag And Stove It
franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Fri 10/10/08 12:32 PM
as long as anyone mentions a subject it will exist if everyone would shun said subject it would eventually disperse what did you say????

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Fri 10/10/08 12:33 PM Edited by adj4u on Fri 10/10/08 12:33 PM
as long as anyone mentions a subject it will exist if everyone would shun said subject it would eventually disperse what did you say???? nothin but i typed if you keep bringing it up it will stay alive

franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Fri 10/10/08 12:35 PM
as long as anyone mentions a subject it will exist if everyone would shun said subject it would eventually disperse what did you say???? nothin but i typed if you keep bringing it up it will stay alive sounds like a plan

cdanny47 Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 2328	Fri 10/10/08 12:42 PM
Such separatism!!! I agree with fran.....a flag is just a piece of material made by the people who live in said country/state. A united flag of Earth would be nice.......since WE ALL live in it!!! Gypsy that is so true!!!! The world under one flag and an end to war!!!!!! Hug's Sweety

SuzinVA Joined Wed 04/25/07 Posts: 28730	Fri 10/10/08 12:43 PM
You may all be right. It could be what it means to that person. Our own perception. But to those people who it has hurt (their ancestors were hurt) the flag still brings up bad feelings and to some who are still alive, bad memories. You can't change how those people think or feel, but you can do something to not keep that flag displayed. Who cares about history anyway (don't get me wrong I like history and know a great deal about it, I was an history major), we should focus on the now and the future. I don't know anything about my ancestory and where I come from, but I still know who I am. I am with u too Danny! Did you ever stop to think that the American flag is also a symbol of repression, rebellion, and hatred? It could be construed as offensive to someone of British heritage, or even Native American heritage. God knows, we did our best to wipe those particular cultures off the face off the earth. Should we get rid of it because somebody somewhere might be offended? Currently, I'm offended by it. I'm sure our Founding Fathers are rolling in the grave wondering about the mess we've made of what they've created. It's a piece of cloth, people ascribe meaning to it based on their own perceptions, backgrounds and personal experiences. But it really is meaningless.

SuzinVA Joined Wed 04/25/07 Posts: 28730	Fri 10/10/08 12:45 PM
I should have read everyone else's posts about letting it die before I posted above. Sorry all

purposebuilt Joined Mon 06/16/08 Posts: 770	Fri 10/10/08 12:46 PM
At least it's not racist to raise you're fist and declare black power, black pride and power to the people. Try being white and getting away with that.

franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Fri 10/10/08 12:48 PM
peace and love everyone

faithnomoread Joined Tue 03/25/08 Posts: 18	Fri 10/10/08 12:54 PM
You may all be right. It could be what it means to that person. Our own perception. But to those people who it has hurt (their ancestors were hurt) the flag still brings up bad feelings and to some who are still alive, bad memories. You can't change how those people think or feel, but you can do something to not keep that flag displayed. Who cares about history anyway (don't get me wrong I like history and know a great deal about it, I was an history major), we should focus on the now and the future. I don't know anything about my ancestory and where I come from, but I still know who I am. I am with u too Danny! Did you ever stop to think that the American flag is also a symbol of repression, rebellion, and hatred? It could be construed as offensive to someone of British heritage, or even Native American heritage. God knows, we did our best to wipe those particular cultures off the face off the earth. Should we get rid of it because somebody somewhere might be offended? Currently, I'm offended by it. I'm sure our Founding Fathers are rolling in the grave wondering about the mess we've made of what they've created. It's a piece of cloth, people ascribe meaning to it based on their own perceptions, backgrounds and personal experiences. But it really is meaningless. I agree with that, I don't believe our founding fathers would appreciate what we've done with this country. I don't believe they would've approved of 90% of the ignorant laws we have in this country either. and to the guy about talking about black power and black pride: I don't know anyone who agrees or approves of it... even black people and that is mostly who I know...

enderra Joined Tue 04/15/08 Posts: 1719	Fri 10/10/08 01:05 PM
Yes, I would be the first to fly a peace, united human race flag, were one ever to exist. What I am saying is why is it ok for jewish people to be offended by the use of the swastika and for everyone to get why the people who use it are racist? But oh no the confederate flag should be respected.

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Fri 10/10/08 01:08 PM
At least it's not racist to raise you're fist and declare black power, black pride and power to the people. Try being white and getting away with that. you must of seen that carlos mencia episode lmao

Etrain Joined Wed 11/21/07 Posts: 19684	Fri 10/10/08 01:08 PM
How bout we just skip the flag idea totally...flags, to the best of my knowledge were created for war anyhow

enderra Joined Tue 04/15/08 Posts: 1719	Fri 10/10/08 01:10 PM
If a person doesn't know by now that it is offensive it is because they don't care. Or are just so ignorant they were probably related to cave men first.

franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Fri 10/10/08 01:10 PM
Yes, I would be the first to fly a peace, united human race flag, were one ever to exist. What I am saying is why is it ok for jewish people to be offended by the use of the swastika and for everyone to get why the people who use it are racist? But oh no the confederate flag should be respected. It's all an assumption like the one regarding the American Flag, the Gay Pride Flag, the Confederate Flag. We assume therefore it must be All just material - it's how 'we individually' define then and place value on them that makes us stay stagnant and incapable of moving on and upward. jmo

damnitscloudy Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 11293	Fri 10/10/08 01:12 PM
So i'm a racist because i have a rebel flag to honor my great great grandfather who died in battle during the civil war? Thats the biggest piece of crap i've heard for awhile. You may be offended by a flag, but i'm offended by your statement.

enderra Joined Tue 04/15/08 Posts: 1719	Fri 10/10/08 01:15 PM
Yes, I would be the first to fly a peace, united human race flag, were one ever to exist. What I am saying is why is it ok for jewish people to be offended by the use of the swastika and for everyone to get why the people who use it are racist? But oh no the confederate flag should be respected. It's all an assumption like the one regarding the American Flag, the Gay Pride Flag, the Confederate Flag. We assume therefore it must be All just material - it's how 'we individually' define then and place value on them that makes us stay stagnant and incapable of moving on and upward. jmo Good for you that you are so unconcerned with the reality of today, but until the people that worship that symbol give it up I will be there to call them racist. For my ancestors were victimized by them and SHOULD BE RESPECTED not that symbol

franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Fri 10/10/08 01:18 PM
Yes, I would be the first to fly a peace, united human race flag, were one ever to exist. What I am saying is why is it ok for jewish people to be offended by the use of the swastika and for everyone to get why the people who use it are racist? But oh no the confederate flag should be respected. It's all an assumption like the one regarding the American Flag, the Gay Pride Flag, the Confederate Flag. We assume therefore it must be All just material - it's how 'we individually' define then and place value on them that makes us stay stagnant and incapable of moving on and upward. jmo Good for you that you are so unconcerned with the reality of today, but until the people that worship that symbol give it up I will be there to call them racist. For my ancestors were victimized by them and SHOULD BE RESPECTED not that symbol How are you respecting their memories, by instigating and continually perpetrating negativity? Dont misunderstand I live and am an active member of the real world. I worship no one, and certainly not a piece of fabric.

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Fri 10/10/08 01:18 PM
So i'm a racist because i have a rebel flag to honor my great great grandfather who died in battle during the civil war? Thats the biggest piece of crap i've heard for awhile. You may be offended by a flag, but i'm offended by your statement. Fly the flag if you want. But, you can't honestly be surprised that some people might be offended by it.

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Fri 10/10/08 01:20 PM Edited by adj4u on Fri 10/10/08 01:21 PM
so if you have a black fist poster on the wall you are also a racist or a picture of the chicago seven and that means you worship them interesting concept

damnitscloudy Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 11293	Fri 10/10/08 01:21 PM
So i'm a racist because i have a rebel flag to honor my great great grandfather who died in battle during the civil war? Thats the biggest piece of crap i've heard for awhile. You may be offended by a flag, but i'm offended by your statement. Fly the flag if you want. But, you can't honestly be surprised that some people might be offended by it. Its not flying anywhere, its nailed to the wall above my grandfather's civil war diary. BTW nowhere in that diary does it mention slaves, or black people (that i'm aware of because he just named people he talked too, never mentioned color). He fought because he thought Lincoln was trying to take away state's rights.