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What appeals to me is the nature religions, those that respect nature and see it as the economy of all there lives, such as the native amreicans, there is much still to gleaned from those who have learned how to use nature to their benefit without destroying nature itself but living in harmony with it and having pure respect for it. after all it is our life source while in these bodies.  How could this not go hand in hand with God....He created it all....I also am part Indian and as such and even just as the kind of human being I am. I have major respect for nature, for the creatures that are on this planet. I save them, I do major conservation work with many animals. There to me is a big difference with saying you respect the natural wonder of this world and then not doing anything to make sure it is there for countless generations after ourselves... So are you assuming that i don't or have not done anything to help try to save natural things my lady? It's not only animals that are in need its the whole Eco system.
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Seems like a raw deal for the people that you f*cked over in your life and then, at the last moment repent, and hey! Everything's ok! Get out of jail free! sometimes yes....but this is why we are not the judge talldub........I will give another example why I am so glad I am not......"God" is the only one with good reason. I was picked for a jury and it was the last time the lawyers were going to talk to us before the final pick. They came to me and said this, "If you are on the jury of a man that was selling drugs to kids in the Los Angeles area, what do you think should happen to him." I thought for a moment and replied, "Shoot him between the eyes with a 45." They replied dismissed. See why we are not the judge.....I would of taken the bastards life in an instant...because I knew of his crimes from our area. But if I would of done that....would I of been any better....and who is to say that he doesn't go to prison where he is truly saved.....see what I mean.  So you are from the OT school and would stone perceived "sinners"? Why dont we just skip trial and proceed directly to stoning? You had to be weeded off by the defense because of these wacko views.  Again lil lady you misunderstand......I said I don't want to be judge and with good reason. I would not stone anyone because I am no ones judge....So you think it's ok to come to America with massive quantities of drugs and sell it to school kids huh? Like I said I was being honest when asked the question......I think it should not be tollerated for a second...but I also said that I am not their judge and with good reason. Yes obviously you are not a judge. You have not attended law school and passed the bar, nor served as a practicing attorney that I am aware of. I am telling you the reason the defense dismissed your ass was because of that crazy statement you made. If you were merely looking to get out of performing your civic duty to the community you live in, mission accomplished. However I dont think that was your goal. You feel that since this man is accused of selling drugs, he is automatically guilty of selling drugs and therefore a sinner in your view. Never mind a trial and all that wasting of time. Forget about any potential evidence the defense might have to the contrary or any pre existing mitigating circumstances. Thats all crap. Just put a bullet in his head so we can all be done with this and home by dinner. I find this position extremely worrisome. What if your child was accused of a crime feral? crazy to you....0 tolerance for me. It was not to get out of anything it was the truth.....I don't like any adult selling that nasty stuff to our children...ever worked with crack addicted babies, ever seen a 12 year old withdrawl from heroin......nuff said...I have and I do....so little lady when I say things regardless of who it is too...I mean it. It's not the point of the trial when I was asked....what I personally think should happen if found guilty.....I said what I felt....And again you were not there to hear the whole thing...and it was not a case of him being in the wrong place at the wrong time...He was found in a warehouse illegally here surrounded by 16 tons of drugs, guns and money......so pull your head out of the sand.....Also have you had anyone you know jump under and car where all four that did were then gunned down in cold blood (drug related) I have and I know what this stuff does to people...So once again I come from a place of living it...How about you? |
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What appeals to me is the nature religions, those that respect nature and see it as the economy of all there lives, such as the native amreicans, there is much still to gleaned from those who have learned how to use nature to their benefit without destroying nature itself but living in harmony with it and having pure respect for it. after all it is our life source while in these bodies. How could this not go hand in hand with God....He created it all....I also am part Indian and as such and even just as the kind of human being I am. I have major respect for nature, for the creatures that are on this planet. I save them, I do major conservation work with many animals. There to me is a big difference with saying you respect the natural wonder of this world and then not doing anything to make sure it is there for countless generations after ourselves... So are you assuming that i don't or have not done anything to help try to save natural things my lady? It's not only animals that are in need its the whole Eco system. nope not at all......and totally agree with you. |
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Some concider god to be just an entity like the cosmic force or as i call it the creative force which does nothing but bring creative material into being, it does not inter-react with whats created, abra call it the quantum feild, JB calls it the prime source, what ever one calls it it is a non emotional entity or force that does not directly intercede with what is created. That is what i meant by a non-caring god. For me any god/goddess that has emotions or is emotionally involved with it's creation is a man made god.That's how "religion" got started in my opinion. Man's recognition that others could be manipulated out of fears or other emotions that would bring people under control with threats of destruction etc.. I wonder if, in the very beginning stages of a new religion, the immediate agenda is to bring people under control... or if that develops over time. What is it with you people and this control thing.....God nor Jesus control me....not man....I am his "willing" servant...big big difference....and I am not scared, nor controlled not anything you people think.....so stop saying it. According to what i read my lady, when you make jesus "LORD" of your life, you give it to him to make yourself over into his image, that's control!! |
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Ferral:
....I also am >>>part<<<: Indian and as such and even just as the kind of human being I am. tribo: Which part? 
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Seems like a raw deal for the people that you f*cked over in your life and then, at the last moment repent, and hey! Everything's ok! Get out of jail free! sometimes yes....but this is why we are not the judge talldub........I will give another example why I am so glad I am not......"God" is the only one with good reason. I was picked for a jury and it was the last time the lawyers were going to talk to us before the final pick. They came to me and said this, "If you are on the jury of a man that was selling drugs to kids in the Los Angeles area, what do you think should happen to him." I thought for a moment and replied, "Shoot him between the eyes with a 45." They replied dismissed. See why we are not the judge.....I would of taken the bastards life in an instant...because I knew of his crimes from our area. But if I would of done that....would I of been any better....and who is to say that he doesn't go to prison where he is truly saved.....see what I mean. So you are from the OT school and would stone perceived "sinners"? Why dont we just skip trial and proceed directly to stoning? You had to be weeded off by the defense because of these wacko views. Again lil lady you misunderstand......I said I don't want to be judge and with good reason. I would not stone anyone because I am no ones judge....So you think it's ok to come to America with massive quantities of drugs and sell it to school kids huh? Like I said I was being honest when asked the question......I think it should not be tollerated for a second...but I also said that I am not their judge and with good reason. Yes obviously you are not a judge. You have not attended law school and passed the bar, nor served as a practicing attorney that I am aware of. I am telling you the reason the defense dismissed your ass was because of that crazy statement you made. If you were merely looking to get out of performing your civic duty to the community you live in, mission accomplished. However I dont think that was your goal. You feel that since this man is accused of selling drugs, he is automatically guilty of selling drugs and therefore a sinner in your view. Never mind a trial and all that wasting of time. Forget about any potential evidence the defense might have to the contrary or any pre existing mitigating circumstances. Thats all crap. Just put a bullet in his head so we can all be done with this and home by dinner. I find this position extremely worrisome. What if your child was accused of a crime feral? crazy to you....0 tolerance for me. It was not to get out of anything it was the truth.....I don't like any adult selling that nasty stuff to our children...ever worked with crack addicted babies, ever seen a 12 year old withdrawl from heroin......nuff said...I have and I do....so little lady when I say things regardless of who it is too...I mean it. It's not the point of the trial when I was asked....what I personally think should happen if found guilty.....I said what I felt....And again you were not there to hear the whole thing...and it was not a case of him being in the wrong place at the wrong time...He was found in a warehouse illegally here surrounded by 16 tons of drugs, guns and money......so pull your head out of the sand.....Also have you had anyone you know jump under and car where all four that did were then gunned down in cold blood (drug related) I have and I know what this stuff does to people...So once again I come from a place of living it...How about you? Feral, you made the statement "you would put a bullet into his head" because that is how you personally would handle the situation. That is the exact same mentality held in the OT when they stoned people at the drop of a hat. The point is, you found this man guilty before the trial had begun. The defense had no choice but to strike you from the jury panel. They could not risk you being there because you had ALREADY made a determination of this man's guilt before the trial had even commenced. If I "was not there to hear the entire thing" as you put it, then TELL US exactly what took place. Otherwise I am forced to limit my understanding of the situation based solely on what you are typing. Your lack of compassion, understanding and willingness to at least hear both sides of the argument from both defense and prosecution speaks volumes about your personality. You never answered my question either. What would you do if your own child was accused of a crime? |
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Some concider god to be just an entity like the cosmic force or as i call it the creative force which does nothing but bring creative material into being, it does not inter-react with whats created, abra call it the quantum feild, JB calls it the prime source, what ever one calls it it is a non emotional entity or force that does not directly intercede with what is created. That is what i meant by a non-caring god. For me any god/goddess that has emotions or is emotionally involved with it's creation is a man made god.That's how "religion" got started in my opinion. Man's recognition that others could be manipulated out of fears or other emotions that would bring people under control with threats of destruction etc.. I wonder if, in the very beginning stages of a new religion, the immediate agenda is to bring people under control... or if that develops over time. What is it with you people and this control thing.....God nor Jesus control me....not man....I am his "willing" servant...big big difference....and I am not scared, nor controlled not anything you people think.....so stop saying it. According to what i read my lady, when you make jesus "LORD" of your life, you give it to him to make yourself over into his image, that's control!! nope sorry I give my life to him with a willing heart there is no control......that is why you have freewill.....free to give it or not......scary never.....control....never |
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Ferral: ....I also am >>>part<<<: Indian and as such and even just as the kind of human being I am. tribo: Which part? Well for me always knowing that I had a kinship for all of God's creatures and the planet. Even before I knew of my hertiage.....I was bringing home injured or sick critters at the age of 3....First one a Brown Pelican.... |
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Seems like a raw deal for the people that you f*cked over in your life and then, at the last moment repent, and hey! Everything's ok! Get out of jail free! sometimes yes....but this is why we are not the judge talldub........I will give another example why I am so glad I am not......"God" is the only one with good reason. I was picked for a jury and it was the last time the lawyers were going to talk to us before the final pick. They came to me and said this, "If you are on the jury of a man that was selling drugs to kids in the Los Angeles area, what do you think should happen to him." I thought for a moment and replied, "Shoot him between the eyes with a 45." They replied dismissed. See why we are not the judge.....I would of taken the bastards life in an instant...because I knew of his crimes from our area. But if I would of done that....would I of been any better....and who is to say that he doesn't go to prison where he is truly saved.....see what I mean. So you are from the OT school and would stone perceived "sinners"? Why dont we just skip trial and proceed directly to stoning? You had to be weeded off by the defense because of these wacko views. Again lil lady you misunderstand......I said I don't want to be judge and with good reason. I would not stone anyone because I am no ones judge....So you think it's ok to come to America with massive quantities of drugs and sell it to school kids huh? Like I said I was being honest when asked the question......I think it should not be tollerated for a second...but I also said that I am not their judge and with good reason. Yes obviously you are not a judge. You have not attended law school and passed the bar, nor served as a practicing attorney that I am aware of. I am telling you the reason the defense dismissed your ass was because of that crazy statement you made. If you were merely looking to get out of performing your civic duty to the community you live in, mission accomplished. However I dont think that was your goal. You feel that since this man is accused of selling drugs, he is automatically guilty of selling drugs and therefore a sinner in your view. Never mind a trial and all that wasting of time. Forget about any potential evidence the defense might have to the contrary or any pre existing mitigating circumstances. Thats all crap. Just put a bullet in his head so we can all be done with this and home by dinner. I find this position extremely worrisome. What if your child was accused of a crime feral? crazy to you....0 tolerance for me. It was not to get out of anything it was the truth.....I don't like any adult selling that nasty stuff to our children...ever worked with crack addicted babies, ever seen a 12 year old withdrawl from heroin......nuff said...I have and I do....so little lady when I say things regardless of who it is too...I mean it. It's not the point of the trial when I was asked....what I personally think should happen if found guilty.....I said what I felt....And again you were not there to hear the whole thing...and it was not a case of him being in the wrong place at the wrong time...He was found in a warehouse illegally here surrounded by 16 tons of drugs, guns and money......so pull your head out of the sand.....Also have you had anyone you know jump under and car where all four that did were then gunned down in cold blood (drug related) I have and I know what this stuff does to people...So once again I come from a place of living it...How about you? Feral, you made the statement "you would put a bullet into his head" because that is how you personally would handle the situation. That is the exact same mentality held in the OT when they stoned people at the drop of a hat. The point is, you found this man guilty before the trial had begun. The defense had no choice but to strike you from the jury panel. They could not risk you being there because you had ALREADY made a determination of this man's guilt before the trial had even commenced. If I "was not there to hear the entire thing" as you put it, then TELL US exactly what took place. Otherwise I am forced to limit my understanding of the situation based solely on what you are typing. Your lack of compassion, understanding and willingness to at least hear both sides of the argument from both defense and prosecution speaks volumes about your personality. You never answered my question either. What would you do if your own child was accused of a crime? again krimsa when they asked me what I would do in this case if found guilty.....I said what I did....now I meant every word of it...because it should never ever be tolerated...but then again this is why I would never go into law...just like I could not defend someone that I knew was guilty...that is just not how I work....I see injustice I deal with a swift hand....and again this is why originally I said that is why I am glad I am not anyone's judge. I have no compassion for drug dealers of any kind....and of course I believe in the system and fair and inpartial trials. and you again know jack about me lil lady.... I would be there for my child....and I would trust in the system which I do support..... |
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nope sorry I give my life to him with a willing heart there is no control......that is why you have freewill.....free to give it or not......scary never.....control....never Women who are abused give their heart wilingly to their abuser also...does that make it any less controlling? |
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Seems like a raw deal for the people that you f*cked over in your life and then, at the last moment repent, and hey! Everything's ok! Get out of jail free! sometimes yes....but this is why we are not the judge talldub........I will give another example why I am so glad I am not......"God" is the only one with good reason. I was picked for a jury and it was the last time the lawyers were going to talk to us before the final pick. They came to me and said this, "If you are on the jury of a man that was selling drugs to kids in the Los Angeles area, what do you think should happen to him." I thought for a moment and replied, "Shoot him between the eyes with a 45." They replied dismissed. See why we are not the judge.....I would of taken the bastards life in an instant...because I knew of his crimes from our area. But if I would of done that....would I of been any better....and who is to say that he doesn't go to prison where he is truly saved.....see what I mean. So you are from the OT school and would stone perceived "sinners"? Why dont we just skip trial and proceed directly to stoning? You had to be weeded off by the defense because of these wacko views. Again lil lady you misunderstand......I said I don't want to be judge and with good reason. I would not stone anyone because I am no ones judge....So you think it's ok to come to America with massive quantities of drugs and sell it to school kids huh? Like I said I was being honest when asked the question......I think it should not be tollerated for a second...but I also said that I am not their judge and with good reason. Yes obviously you are not a judge. You have not attended law school and passed the bar, nor served as a practicing attorney that I am aware of. I am telling you the reason the defense dismissed your ass was because of that crazy statement you made. If you were merely looking to get out of performing your civic duty to the community you live in, mission accomplished. However I dont think that was your goal. You feel that since this man is accused of selling drugs, he is automatically guilty of selling drugs and therefore a sinner in your view. Never mind a trial and all that wasting of time. Forget about any potential evidence the defense might have to the contrary or any pre existing mitigating circumstances. Thats all crap. Just put a bullet in his head so we can all be done with this and home by dinner. I find this position extremely worrisome. What if your child was accused of a crime feral? crazy to you....0 tolerance for me. It was not to get out of anything it was the truth.....I don't like any adult selling that nasty stuff to our children...ever worked with crack addicted babies, ever seen a 12 year old withdrawl from heroin......nuff said...I have and I do....so little lady when I say things regardless of who it is too...I mean it. It's not the point of the trial when I was asked....what I personally think should happen if found guilty.....I said what I felt....And again you were not there to hear the whole thing...and it was not a case of him being in the wrong place at the wrong time...He was found in a warehouse illegally here surrounded by 16 tons of drugs, guns and money......so pull your head out of the sand.....Also have you had anyone you know jump under and car where all four that did were then gunned down in cold blood (drug related) I have and I know what this stuff does to people...So once again I come from a place of living it...How about you? Feral, you made the statement "you would put a bullet into his head" because that is how you personally would handle the situation. That is the exact same mentality held in the OT when they stoned people at the drop of a hat. The point is, you found this man guilty before the trial had begun. The defense had no choice but to strike you from the jury panel. They could not risk you being there because you had ALREADY made a determination of this man's guilt before the trial had even commenced. If I "was not there to hear the entire thing" as you put it, then TELL US exactly what took place. Otherwise I am forced to limit my understanding of the situation based solely on what you are typing. Your lack of compassion, understanding and willingness to at least hear both sides of the argument from both defense and prosecution speaks volumes about your personality. You never answered my question either. What would you do if your own child was accused of a crime? again krimsa when they asked me what I would do in this case if found guilty.....I said what I did....now I meant every word of it...because it should never ever be tolerated...but then again this is why I would never go into law...just like I could not defend someone that I knew was guilty...that is just not how I work....I see injustice I deal with a swift hand....and again this is why originally I said that is why I am glad I am not anyone's judge. I have no compassion for drug dealers of any kind....and of course I believe in the system and fair and inpartial trials. and you again know jack about me lil lady.... I would be there for my child....and I would trust in the system which I do support..... So IF he was found guilty, Feral would put a bullet in his head. This was not a capital case. This man was on trial for selling drugs. Execution would not be an option for the judge to consider when it came time to sentence him. That would be if he was found guilty. There were probably several charges and the prosecution would be REQUIRED by law to establish guilt on all counts for a jury. If they can not accomplish this beyond a reasonable doubt, the judge would have given you the option to come back on a verdict for each charge. That is how it works feral.We do not simply stone people out in the parking lot based on intuition and gut feelings. So you are saying the law works for feral's children if they were ever accused of a crime, but for this stranger facing probably several years behind bars, eh, forget the trial, hes guilty according to feral. Due process is not necessary and he is not entitled to it as feral's child would be. Case closed. That is bullshi- |
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Ferral: ....I also am >>>part<<<: Indian and as such and even just as the kind of human being I am. tribo: Which part? Well for me always knowing that I had a kinship for all of God's creatures and the planet. Even before I knew of my hertiage.....I was bringing home injured or sick critters at the age of 3....First one a Brown Pelican.... I meant whivh "PART" hands. feet, nose, etc.. 
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Some concider god to be just an entity like the cosmic force or as i call it the creative force which does nothing but bring creative material into being, it does not inter-react with whats created, abra call it the quantum feild, JB calls it the prime source, what ever one calls it it is a non emotional entity or force that does not directly intercede with what is created. That is what i meant by a non-caring god. For me any god/goddess that has emotions or is emotionally involved with it's creation is a man made god.That's how "religion" got started in my opinion. Man's recognition that others could be manipulated out of fears or other emotions that would bring people under control with threats of destruction etc.. I wonder if, in the very beginning stages of a new religion, the immediate agenda is to bring people under control... or if that develops over time. What is it with you people and this control thing.....God nor Jesus control me....not man....I am his "willing" servant...big big difference....and I am not scared, nor controlled not anything you people think.....so stop saying it. According to what i read my lady, when you make jesus "LORD" of your life, you give it to him to make yourself over into his image, that's control!! nope sorry I give my life to him with a willing heart there is no control......that is why you have freewill.....free to give it or not......scary never.....control....never Are you saying then that you allow him to control all of your actions in life? |
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May ALL Christians Be the Kind of Christian that When Our Feet Hit the Floor Each and Every Morning The Devil Screams and Flees !! May Our Christian Walk and Our Christian Talk Be a Pure Reflection of Christ... The World Is Watching And For Some We May Be the Only Bible the World Ever "Reads"....  "For thousands of years men have been writing the real Bible, and it is being written from day to day, and it will never be finished while man has life. All the facts that we know, all the truly recorded events, all the discoveries and inventions, all the wonderful machines whose wheels and levers seem to think, all the poems, crystals from the brain, flowers from the heart, all the songs of love and joy, of smiles and tears, the great dramas of Imagination's world, the wondrous paintings, miracles of form and color, of light and shade, the marvelous marbles that seem to live and breathe, the secrets told by rock and star, by dust and flower, by rain and snow, by frost and flame, by winding stream and desert sand, by mountain range and billowed sea. All the wisdom that lengthens and ennobles life, all that avoids or cures disease, or conquers pain -- all just and perfect laws and rules that guide and shape our lives, all thoughts that feed the flames of love the music that transfigures, enraptures and enthralls the victories of heart and brain, the miracles that hands have wrought, the deft and cunning hands of those who worked for wife and child, the histories of noble deeds, of brave and useful men, of faithful loving wives, of quenchless mother-love, of conflicts for the right, of sufferings for the truth, of all the best that all the men and women of the world have said, and thought and done through all the years. These treasures of the heart and brain -- these are the Sacred Scriptures of the human race." --Robert Ingersoll (1894) |
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May ALL Christians Be the Kind of Christian that When Our Feet Hit the Floor Each and Every Morning The Devil Screams and Flees !! May Our Christian Walk and Our Christian Talk Be a Pure Reflection of Christ... The World Is Watching And For Some We May Be the Only Bible the World Ever "Reads".... "For thousands of years men have been writing the real Bible, and it is being written from day to day, and it will never be finished while man has life. All the facts that we know, all the truly recorded events, all the discoveries and inventions, all the wonderful machines whose wheels and levers seem to think, all the poems, crystals from the brain, flowers from the heart, all the songs of love and joy, of smiles and tears, the great dramas of Imagination's world, the wondrous paintings, miracles of form and color, of light and shade, the marvelous marbles that seem to live and breathe, the secrets told by rock and star, by dust and flower, by rain and snow, by frost and flame, by winding stream and desert sand, by mountain range and billowed sea. All the wisdom that lengthens and ennobles life, all that avoids or cures disease, or conquers pain -- all just and perfect laws and rules that guide and shape our lives, all thoughts that feed the flames of love the music that transfigures, enraptures and enthralls the victories of heart and brain, the miracles that hands have wrought, the deft and cunning hands of those who worked for wife and child, the histories of noble deeds, of brave and useful men, of faithful loving wives, of quenchless mother-love, of conflicts for the right, of sufferings for the truth, of all the best that all the men and women of the world have said, and thought and done through all the years. These treasures of the heart and brain -- these are the Sacred Scriptures of the human race." --Robert Ingersoll (1894) BOB?? ahh he's just a liar - don't listen to him -
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May ALL Christians Be the Kind of Christian that When Our Feet Hit the Floor Each and Every Morning The Devil Screams and Flees !! May Our Christian Walk and Our Christian Talk Be a Pure Reflection of Christ... The World Is Watching And For Some We May Be the Only Bible the World Ever "Reads".... "For thousands of years men have been writing the real Bible, and it is being written from day to day, and it will never be finished while man has life. All the facts that we know, all the truly recorded events, all the discoveries and inventions, all the wonderful machines whose wheels and levers seem to think, all the poems, crystals from the brain, flowers from the heart, all the songs of love and joy, of smiles and tears, the great dramas of Imagination's world, the wondrous paintings, miracles of form and color, of light and shade, the marvelous marbles that seem to live and breathe, the secrets told by rock and star, by dust and flower, by rain and snow, by frost and flame, by winding stream and desert sand, by mountain range and billowed sea. All the wisdom that lengthens and ennobles life, all that avoids or cures disease, or conquers pain -- all just and perfect laws and rules that guide and shape our lives, all thoughts that feed the flames of love the music that transfigures, enraptures and enthralls the victories of heart and brain, the miracles that hands have wrought, the deft and cunning hands of those who worked for wife and child, the histories of noble deeds, of brave and useful men, of faithful loving wives, of quenchless mother-love, of conflicts for the right, of sufferings for the truth, of all the best that all the men and women of the world have said, and thought and done through all the years. These treasures of the heart and brain -- these are the Sacred Scriptures of the human race." --Robert Ingersoll (1894) BOB?? ahh he's just a liar - don't listen to him - Aunght Augh... Oh, NO YOU DI-N'T! That's MY MAN you're talkin' about!
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Some concider god to be just an entity like the cosmic force or as i call it the creative force which does nothing but bring creative material into being, it does not inter-react with whats created, abra call it the quantum feild, JB calls it the prime source, what ever one calls it it is a non emotional entity or force that does not directly intercede with what is created. That is what i meant by a non-caring god. For me any god/goddess that has emotions or is emotionally involved with it's creation is a man made god.That's how "religion" got started in my opinion. Man's recognition that others could be manipulated out of fears or other emotions that would bring people under control with threats of destruction etc.. I wonder if, in the very beginning stages of a new religion, the immediate agenda is to bring people under control... or if that develops over time. What is it with you people and this control thing.....God nor Jesus control me....not man....I am his "willing" servant...big big difference....and I am not scared, nor controlled not anything you people think.....so stop saying it. According to what i read my lady, when you make jesus "LORD" of your life, you give it to him to make yourself over into his image, that's control!! nope sorry I give my life to him with a willing heart there is no control......that is why you have freewill.....free to give it or not......scary never.....control....never This is an interesting subject because if you willingly become a slave, the slave master "takes care of" his slaves. There is a mutual give and take in the master-slave relationship. A willing slave does it for the benefits, not because he or she is forced to do it. Christians don't like to think of themselves as "slaves," but maybe "servants" of the Lord. "The Lord" is their master and there are benefits involved in the relationship. For one, they don't have to make decisions of right and wrong all the time because the rules are laid out for them. So they don't have to think about it. The Lord promises to "take care" of them, now and in the after life, and forgive them for their sins. Forced slavery is wrong. Christians seem to think of free will as the will to choose to be a willing servant or not. But that is not really what "Free Will" is. The "will" is always free to direct the self. One can choose to direct ones self and be responsible and take care of ones self or one can find a "master" who will take care of them whom they will serve willingly. I have heard that you can only serve one master. This simply means that you cannot have two belief systems. You cannot follow and obey your spouse if he does not follow the same master as you. This is why it is better to have a spouse who is of the same faith. But you can be free of any master, and you can still rely on your higher self to guide you. Freedom only comes with the acceptance of responsibility for all of your actions and the realization that you do create your own reality with the help and power of the Prime source through the Higher self entity. jb |
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Some concider god to be just an entity like the cosmic force or as i call it the creative force which does nothing but bring creative material into being, it does not inter-react with whats created, abra call it the quantum feild, JB calls it the prime source, what ever one calls it it is a non emotional entity or force that does not directly intercede with what is created. That is what i meant by a non-caring god. For me any god/goddess that has emotions or is emotionally involved with it's creation is a man made god.That's how "religion" got started in my opinion. Man's recognition that others could be manipulated out of fears or other emotions that would bring people under control with threats of destruction etc.. I wonder if, in the very beginning stages of a new religion, the immediate agenda is to bring people under control... or if that develops over time. What is it with you people and this control thing.....God nor Jesus control me....not man....I am his "willing" servant...big big difference....and I am not scared, nor controlled not anything you people think.....so stop saying it. According to what i read my lady, when you make jesus "LORD" of your life, you give it to him to make yourself over into his image, that's control!! nope sorry I give my life to him with a willing heart there is no control......that is why you have freewill.....free to give it or not......scary never.....control....never This is an interesting subject because if you willingly become a slave, the slave master "takes care of" his slaves. There is a mutual give and take in the master-slave relationship. A willing slave does it for the benefits, not because he or she is forced to do it. Christians don't like to think of themselves as "slaves," but maybe "servants" of the Lord. "The Lord" is their master and there are benefits involved in the relationship. For one, they don't have to make decisions of right and wrong all the time because the rules are laid out for them. So they don't have to think about it. The Lord promises to "take care" of them, now and in the after life, and forgive them for their sins. Forced slavery is wrong. Christians seem to think of free will as the will to choose to be a willing servant or not. But that is not really what "Free Will" is. The "will" is always free to direct the self. One can choose to direct ones self and be responsible and take care of ones self or one can find a "master" who will take care of them whom they will serve willingly. I have heard that you can only serve one master. This simply means that you cannot have two belief systems. You cannot follow and obey your spouse if he does not follow the same master as you. This is why it is better to have a spouse who is of the same faith. But you can be free of any master, and you can still rely on your higher self to guide you. Freedom only comes with the acceptance of responsibility for all of your actions and the realization that you do create your own reality with the help and power of the Prime source through the Higher self entity. jb succintly put as usual JB, i would have gotten there eventually but i like to get people to admit to things about themselves before i do -
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Aunght Augh... Oh, NO YOU DI-N'T! That's MY MAN you're talkin' about! TRIBO: BOB SCHMOB, he's no man he can't do it and no one can -
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SL: Aunght Augh... Oh, NO YOU DI-N'T! That's MY MAN you're talkin' about! TRIBO: BOB SCHMOB, he's no man he can't do it and no one can - Whos Bob? Why do I feel like Im on the Tyra Banks show?
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