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Topic: What is the "mark of the beast"?
feralcatlady's photo
Sat 10/04/08 07:35 PM





I absolutely love how with some Christians it's "either or" thast is such a child like mentality.

If you're not my friend you are my enemy.

REALLY?

If you don't sit with me at lunch you're not my friend anymore.

REALLY?

Is your God so pias and arrogant that's how he sees it?

You don't have to believe in my Goddess she believes in you. She likes me more but she believes in you, no matter how much of a stick in the mud you are.rofl rofl :banana:




Don't see any difference with you and yours my sweet.....


Really, so if I die and have been wrong all of this time, your God will allow me into heaven?




And what pretail does the above have to do with anything I said. You know the answer to your question Lily.....I am sure of it.


You said you didn't see any difference and that my dear is a huge difference.

Your God won't accept me unless I worship him, my Goddess excepts you for whomever you chose to worship.



My God accepts and loves all.....but you must live with the consequences of your choices sweets....choose to worship a Goddess....your choice......God is Love but he is also a jealous God......Worship "NO" other gods......so don't blame God for what is clearly your choice.

feralcatlady's photo
Sat 10/04/08 07:40 PM






I absolutely love how with some Christians it's "either or" thast is such a child like mentality.

If you're not my friend you are my enemy.

REALLY?

If you don't sit with me at lunch you're not my friend anymore.

REALLY?

Is your God so pias and arrogant that's how he sees it?

You don't have to believe in my Goddess she believes in you. She likes me more but she believes in you, no matter how much of a stick in the mud you are.rofl rofl :banana:




Don't see any difference with you and yours my sweet.....


Really, so if I die and have been wrong all of this time, your God will allow me into heaven?




And what pretail does the above have to do with anything I said. You know the answer to your question Lily.....I am sure of it.


You said you didn't see any difference and that my dear is a huge difference.

Your God won't accept me unless I worship him, my Goddess excepts you for whomever you chose to worship.


This is a key point and distinction that should be made between the faiths. Wicca and Christianity. The presumption that can be made is that god will reject us as "sinners" if we choose not to accept Jesus as our savior. The Goddess really has no vested interest in who or what you choose to place your faith in. She takes in all. No hard feelings or anger. I think that might be another reason why I like Wicca. No threats and coercive tactics are utilized or needed.


This is what I see as the distinction......When you don't want to be held accountable for your actions and want to do things "your way" a goddess fills that void...because you can live as you choose and be accountable to no one....pretty easy.....Is it easy to walk the narrow path that I have chosen....not at all..but I walk in gladly because I know and want to be held accountable and to know that my Lord loves me no matter what....which He does.....but also that I can't just live as "I" wish to.....Who want a god that has no vested interest...And what is so rich about all of it for me....Is you look at the Lord as wicked and mean for holding us accountable...I don't because I work hard to do what is required and fear is never in the equation.

feralcatlady's photo
Sat 10/04/08 07:42 PM


Like any good mother, you love all of your children, even when they do things to betray your love. The Goddess is our mother, if you deny her or not.

* Applauds*
Very nice point!



And the same can be said....Like any good FATHER he loves us all, even when we betray, sin, or rebel....The Father is always the Father.....But like a good father he will hold all of his children accountable for their actions and show them the right way...


feralcatlady's photo
Sat 10/04/08 07:45 PM

Mark 4

4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

4:12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

"Lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them."


Jesus explains why he speaks in parables: to confuse people so they will go to hell.

laugh happy :tongue:







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feralcatlady's photo
Sat 10/04/08 07:47 PM

22. It is sometimes objected that, by using various systems of computation, it is possible to give practically anyone’s name the value of 666; thus, interpreters have identified the Beast with the Pope, Martin Luther, Napoleon, Adolf Hitler, and Henry Kissinger (among a host of others). The point should be understood, however, that not "any" possible solution of the name, but rather a ""relevant solution,"" is required. Having already shown that the Roman Empire is the Beast described in verses 1-8 of this chapter, we naturally look for some name that gives specific designation of that "power.”

Since the time for this to take place was "that generation" That is where the relevance has to be found - no where does Jesus or John or the prophets state that this was to take place thousands of years after the fact - john states at the beginning that Jesus says to him:

"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must >>>>>shortly<<<<< - >[soon]< come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:"


the only person or empire that fits the time and the place as to revelence that the first readers of the book would be able to undrstand was Rome and its ruler at that time - Nero - who's name does work out to 666 - He is the only one "RELEVENT" to what is spoken of by john/christ.

You will find no other unless you are a evanglical futurist fundie that has brought into the false teachings of darby,scofield, moody, and new writers such as Lindsey and LeHaye and dozens more, they write to uphold their >>sectarian beliefs<< - not to discern what is truth or lies. this doctrine they teach is a lie - period.





You mean the antichrist isn't Oprah...


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talldub's photo
Sat 10/04/08 07:48 PM






I absolutely love how with some Christians it's "either or" thast is such a child like mentality.

If you're not my friend you are my enemy.

REALLY?

If you don't sit with me at lunch you're not my friend anymore.

REALLY?

Is your God so pias and arrogant that's how he sees it?

You don't have to believe in my Goddess she believes in you. She likes me more but she believes in you, no matter how much of a stick in the mud you are.rofl rofl :banana:




Don't see any difference with you and yours my sweet.....


Really, so if I die and have been wrong all of this time, your God will allow me into heaven?




And what pretail does the above have to do with anything I said. You know the answer to your question Lily.....I am sure of it.


You said you didn't see any difference and that my dear is a huge difference.

Your God won't accept me unless I worship him, my Goddess excepts you for whomever you chose to worship.



My God accepts and loves all.....but you must live with the consequences of your choices sweets....choose to worship a Goddess....your choice......God is Love but he is also a jealous God......Worship "NO" other gods......so don't blame God for what is clearly your choice.

So if God is all loving then why is there such a place as hell?

feralcatlady's photo
Sat 10/04/08 07:49 PM
ok I think I answered all I wanted to....










((((((((((JB)))))))))) I think you should come to calif and hang out with the feral, and let her teach you to surf....that is a spiritual gig in itself.....lol

tribo's photo
Sat 10/04/08 08:01 PM


22. It is sometimes objected that, by using various systems of computation, it is possible to give practically anyone’s name the value of 666; thus, interpreters have identified the Beast with the Pope, Martin Luther, Napoleon, Adolf Hitler, and Henry Kissinger (among a host of others). The point should be understood, however, that not "any" possible solution of the name, but rather a ""relevant solution,"" is required. Having already shown that the Roman Empire is the Beast described in verses 1-8 of this chapter, we naturally look for some name that gives specific designation of that "power.”

Since the time for this to take place was "that generation" That is where the relevance has to be found - no where does Jesus or John or the prophets state that this was to take place thousands of years after the fact - john states at the beginning that Jesus says to him:

"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must >>>>>shortly<<<<< - >[soon]< come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:"


the only person or empire that fits the time and the place as to revelence that the first readers of the book would be able to undrstand was Rome and its ruler at that time - Nero - who's name does work out to 666 - He is the only one "RELEVENT" to what is spoken of by john/christ.

You will find no other unless you are a evanglical futurist fundie that has brought into the false teachings of darby,scofield, moody, and new writers such as Lindsey and LeHaye and dozens more, they write to uphold their >>sectarian beliefs<< - not to discern what is truth or lies. this doctrine they teach is a lie - period.





You mean the antichrist isn't Oprah...


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl


NO! She's anti-indegestion - bigsmile

tribo's photo
Sat 10/04/08 08:09 PM







I absolutely love how with some Christians it's "either or" thast is such a child like mentality.

If you're not my friend you are my enemy.

REALLY?

If you don't sit with me at lunch you're not my friend anymore.

REALLY?

Is your God so pias and arrogant that's how he sees it?

You don't have to believe in my Goddess she believes in you. She likes me more but she believes in you, no matter how much of a stick in the mud you are.rofl rofl :banana:




Don't see any difference with you and yours my sweet.....


Really, so if I die and have been wrong all of this time, your God will allow me into heaven?




And what pretail does the above have to do with anything I said. You know the answer to your question Lily.....I am sure of it.


You said you didn't see any difference and that my dear is a huge difference.

Your God won't accept me unless I worship him, my Goddess excepts you for whomever you chose to worship.



My God accepts and loves all.....but you must live with the consequences of your choices sweets....choose to worship a Goddess....your choice......God is Love but he is also a jealous God......Worship "NO" other gods......so don't blame God for what is clearly your choice.

So if God is all loving then why is there such a place as hell?


AHH!! But nowhere does it state that god is "ALL" loving, no more than it states that he is all hateful, those are misconceptions by us. He is love - and that is what rules his actions BUT!! - he is also capable of all other emotions just as we are, hate, jealousy, contempt, etc., Though love may rule, he acts according to all his emotions - just as we do. If you want a non-emotional god then you'd better look elsewhere my friend - you wont find that in this one. Like a strict father he will punish as he see's fit, not as you may think he should. Your better off with the goddess if you want a god that does not care about what you do.

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Sat 10/04/08 08:14 PM




I studied this subject for four years. The way I did my study was much like an investigator would solve a crime. I started at the end of the book of Revelation, and worked my way back to the Begining of Genisis. My conclusion was that the "mark of the beast" is lying or any form of deceit!


I believe it's a spiritual mark, you receive when you deny the Lord.



Why would you believe that?


Because I don't believe it would be a physical mark, although a physical mark could symbolize the spiritual mark.



To whom are you referring when you say "The Lord?"
How would you describe the nature of a "spiritual mark?"

How do you deny this "The Lord" person?

jb


talldub's photo
Sat 10/04/08 08:17 PM








I absolutely love how with some Christians it's "either or" thast is such a child like mentality.

If you're not my friend you are my enemy.

REALLY?

If you don't sit with me at lunch you're not my friend anymore.

REALLY?

Is your God so pias and arrogant that's how he sees it?

You don't have to believe in my Goddess she believes in you. She likes me more but she believes in you, no matter how much of a stick in the mud you are.rofl rofl :banana:




Don't see any difference with you and yours my sweet.....


Really, so if I die and have been wrong all of this time, your God will allow me into heaven?




And what pretail does the above have to do with anything I said. You know the answer to your question Lily.....I am sure of it.


You said you didn't see any difference and that my dear is a huge difference.

Your God won't accept me unless I worship him, my Goddess excepts you for whomever you chose to worship.



My God accepts and loves all.....but you must live with the consequences of your choices sweets....choose to worship a Goddess....your choice......God is Love but he is also a jealous God......Worship "NO" other gods......so don't blame God for what is clearly your choice.

So if God is all loving then why is there such a place as hell?


AHH!! But nowhere does it state that god is "ALL" loving, no more than it states that he is all hateful, those are misconceptions by us. He is love - and that is what rules his actions BUT!! - he is also capable of all other emotions just as we are, hate, jealousy, contempt, etc., Though love may rule, he acts according to all his emotions - just as we do. If you want a non-emotional god then you'd better look elsewhere my friend - you wont find that in this one. Like a strict father he will punish as he see's fit, not as you may think he should. Your better off with the goddess if you want a god that does not care about what you do.

Frankly I don't believe in any God and religion makes me laugh, everyone thinks they have the answer and yet there are so many differences between religions, so many that in some cases it brings people to killing each other! Just kinda seems to me that if God existed and he really loved us (and all the other emotions) then maybe like a strict father he'd have a word with us from time to time, set us straight, you know?

no photo
Sat 10/04/08 08:18 PM

Krimsa wrote:
Why was it 666?
Robert Heinlein wrote a SciFi novel called "The Number of the Beast". It was based on a time/space travel device that was invented by one of the protagonists. The scientific foundation for the device was that of "a cubed cube". Basically, there are six directions - forward, backward, left, right, up, down - on three axis. (This isn't a very good description. Heinlein did it much better and more logically - and used a couple pages to do so.)

But the upshot was that the total number of "places" to which you could travel using this device was: six to the sixth power, raised to the sixth power. Or 6^6^6.

The way Heinlein wrote it made a lot of sense. :smile:



The "cube" is real. Not science fiction. bigsmile

(I didn't say that.huh )

tongue2 waving

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Sat 10/04/08 08:21 PM
Frankly I don't believe in any God and religion makes me laugh, everyone thinks they have the answer and yet there are so many differences between religions, so many that in some cases it brings people to killing each other! Just kinda seems to me that if God existed and he really loved us (and all the other emotions) then maybe like a strict father he'd have a word with us from time to time, set us straight, you know?


Be careful what you wish for. laugh laugh :tongue:

Its called the Law of attraction, the Law of Karma, the Law of cause and effect.

Not exactly a sit down chat with God, but it works.

jb

tribo's photo
Sat 10/04/08 08:21 PM









I absolutely love how with some Christians it's "either or" thast is such a child like mentality.

If you're not my friend you are my enemy.

REALLY?

If you don't sit with me at lunch you're not my friend anymore.

REALLY?

Is your God so pias and arrogant that's how he sees it?

You don't have to believe in my Goddess she believes in you. She likes me more but she believes in you, no matter how much of a stick in the mud you are.rofl rofl :banana:




Don't see any difference with you and yours my sweet.....


Really, so if I die and have been wrong all of this time, your God will allow me into heaven?




And what pretail does the above have to do with anything I said. You know the answer to your question Lily.....I am sure of it.


You said you didn't see any difference and that my dear is a huge difference.

Your God won't accept me unless I worship him, my Goddess excepts you for whomever you chose to worship.



My God accepts and loves all.....but you must live with the consequences of your choices sweets....choose to worship a Goddess....your choice......God is Love but he is also a jealous God......Worship "NO" other gods......so don't blame God for what is clearly your choice.

So if God is all loving then why is there such a place as hell?


AHH!! But nowhere does it state that god is "ALL" loving, no more than it states that he is all hateful, those are misconceptions by us. He is love - and that is what rules his actions BUT!! - he is also capable of all other emotions just as we are, hate, jealousy, contempt, etc., Though love may rule, he acts according to all his emotions - just as we do. If you want a non-emotional god then you'd better look elsewhere my friend - you wont find that in this one. Like a strict father he will punish as he see's fit, not as you may think he should. Your better off with the goddess if you want a god that does not care about what you do.

Frankly I don't believe in any God and religion makes me laugh, everyone thinks they have the answer and yet there are so many differences between religions, so many that in some cases it brings people to killing each other! Just kinda seems to me that if God existed and he really loved us (and all the other emotions) then maybe like a strict father he'd have a word with us from time to time, set us straight, you know?


Yeah, i know.

talldub's photo
Sat 10/04/08 08:35 PM

Frankly I don't believe in any God and religion makes me laugh, everyone thinks they have the answer and yet there are so many differences between religions, so many that in some cases it brings people to killing each other! Just kinda seems to me that if God existed and he really loved us (and all the other emotions) then maybe like a strict father he'd have a word with us from time to time, set us straight, you know?


Be careful what you wish for. laugh laugh :tongue:

Its called the Law of attraction, the Law of Karma, the Law of cause and effect.

Not exactly a sit down chat with God, but it works.

jb

I don't follow your reasoning, can you explain it to me (it's 4:30am here so it's probably really obvious what you mean but my tired brain isn't processing properly!)

feralcatlady's photo
Sat 10/04/08 08:39 PM
Edited by feralcatlady on Sat 10/04/08 08:41 PM







I absolutely love how with some Christians it's "either or" thast is such a child like mentality.

If you're not my friend you are my enemy.

REALLY?

If you don't sit with me at lunch you're not my friend anymore.

REALLY?

Is your God so pias and arrogant that's how he sees it?

You don't have to believe in my Goddess she believes in you. She likes me more but she believes in you, no matter how much of a stick in the mud you are.rofl rofl :banana:




Don't see any difference with you and yours my sweet.....


Really, so if I die and have been wrong all of this time, your God will allow me into heaven?




And what pretail does the above have to do with anything I said. You know the answer to your question Lily.....I am sure of it.


You said you didn't see any difference and that my dear is a huge difference.

Your God won't accept me unless I worship him, my Goddess excepts you for whomever you chose to worship.



My God accepts and loves all.....but you must live with the consequences of your choices sweets....choose to worship a Goddess....your choice......God is Love but he is also a jealous God......Worship "NO" other gods......so don't blame God for what is clearly your choice.

So if God is all loving then why is there such a place as hell?


The Bible plainly teaches that hell is in this earth:

"So far as we can tell from Scripture, the present hell, is somewhere in the heart of the earth itself. It is also called 'the pit' (Isa. 14:9, 15: Ezek. 32:18-21) and 'the abyss' (Rev. 9:2). . .

The writers certainly themselves believed hell to be real and geographically 'beneath' the earth's surface. . .

To say this is not scientific is to assume science knows much more about the earth's interior than is actually the case. The great 'pit' [hell] would only need to be about 100 miles or less in diameter to contain, with much room to spare, all the forty billion or so people who have ever lived, assuming their 'spiritual' bodies are the same size as their physical bodies."THE EARTH'S INNER CORE HAS A TEMPERATURE OF OVER 12,000 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT!"

Thousands of years ago, the Bible described a place called hell in the heart of the earth that matches exactly what science is discovering.

YES! THERE IS A PLACE CALLED HELL!

In Numbers 16, the Bible gives the account of people falling into hell alive!

"And THE EARTH OPENED HER MOUTH, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods. They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive INTO THE PIT, and the EARTH CLOSED UPON THEM:" Numbers 16:32-33

In Mark 9:46, Jesus Christ says about hell: "Where THEIR WORM dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

The earth’s crust on land is normally 50 miles thick. You’d have to go down 50 miles before the edge of the fire. But in parts of the ocean floor, the earth’s crust is less than a mile thick.

Scientists recently discovered cracks on the ocean floor where fire was leaking out. Do you know what they found around these fire-breathing vents in the crust? Eight-foot long worms, found no other place in the world! The book, The Deep Sea, by Joseph Wallace (p.39), reads, "Perhaps the strangest of ocean creatures recently discovered are Riftia, the giant tube WORMS. Measuring up to 8 feet in length, the worms are ONLY FOUND NEAR DEEP SEA VENTS."

And Jesus Christ said, "Where THEIR WORM dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Have you read Isaiah 66 where the Lord Jesus Christ is quoting Mark 9:46?

Look at the context and time period of Isaiah 66:22-24:

Isaiah 66:22-24:
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

The "new heavens and new earth" of Isaiah 66:22 matches Revelation 21:1. This occurs AFTER the Great White Throne Judgement of Revelation 20:10-15! The references to "carcases"; "their worm"; "their fire" (vs 24) — is AFTER the Great White Throne Judgement of the LOST people! The reference to ". . the men that have transgressed. . ." are the LOST people AFTER the Great White Throne Judgement.

Even though the world tries to extinguish the cries and reality of hell — the truth of hell echoes throughout our world. We desperately pretend to cover our ears and igonore the "screams, the weeping, the wailing, the gnashing of teeth" but it is there. . . And we know it. We refuse to accept such a place exist. But it is there. And we know it. Nothing we can do, nothing we can say, can erase the horror of hell from our minds.

It is there. And we know it.

National Geographic magazine truthfully titled their story on Volcanoes "Going To Hell". When PBS did a series on The Savage Earth, one episode was titled "Hell's Crust: Our Everchanging Planet". Everything we know. Everything we observe. Echoes the truth of a place called hell.


It is there. And we know it.

Revelation 14:10 says, " . . . and he shall be tormented with fire and BRIMSTONE . . ." And Job 18 describes the " . . . PLACE of him that knoweth not God" (vs 21), in verse 15 as, " . . . BRIMSTONE shall be scattered upon his habitation." Do you know what brimstone is? It's sulfur. And do you know where sulfur or brimstone is found? INSIDE THIS EARTH! According to the book Volcanoes by Pierre Kohler (p. 43), when Mt. St Helens erupted in 1980 — 150,000 tons of sulfurous gas was ejected! Job is the oldest book in the Bible, written over 3,000 years ago, and yet Job knew what science wouldn't know for years — inside this earth is BRIMSTONE!

Nature magazine recently discovered (July 2002) what the Bible knew over 3,000 years ago. Inside this earth is "fire and brimstone":

The cover of Discover magazine, August 2002, asks the question — "What's Really at the Center of the Earth?".

I know what's REALLY in "the center of this earth". Jesus Christ told us. Over and over. There is a lake of fire — with millions of people burning, weeping, screaming, wailing, gnashing of teeth".

YOU will see HELL. . .
YOU will smell HELL. . .
YOU will breathe HELL. . .
YOU will hear HELL. . .
YOU will feel HELL. . .
YOU WILL BE HELL. . .

The Bible describes it as weeping (Matt 8:12), wailing (Matt 13:42), gnashing of teeth (Matt 13:50), darkness (Matt 25:30), flames (Luke 16:24), burning (Isa 33:14), torments (Luke 16:23), everlasting punishment! Jesus Christ says in Matthew 25:41, "Depart from me, ye cursed, into EVERLASTING FIRE, prepared for the devil and his angels."

HELL IS FOREVER!

All who enter hell — abandon all hope!

The horror of hell — for even one second is unbearable — but FOREVER!

Jesus Christ took hell so serious — He could say without the slightest hesitation — to remove your eye, cut off your hand or foot, if that would keep you out of hell!

I’ll challenge anyone to read the words of Jesus Christ and tell me they are the words of a deceived man!

Jesus Christ knew exactly what He was talking about!

How did Jesus describe hell?

Jesus Christ spoke more on hell than any other subject.
Just look at how Jesus described hell:

WHAT JESUS CHRIST SAYS ABOUT HELL!
"fire" Matt 7:19, 13:40, 25:41
"everlasting fire" Matt 18:8, 25:41
"eternal damnation" Mark 3:29
"hell fire" Matt 5:22, 18:9, Mark 9:47
"damnation" Matt 23:14, Mark 12:40, Luke 20:47
"damnation of hell" Matt 23:33
"resurrection of damnation" John 5:29
"furnace of fire" Matt 13:42, 50
"the fire that never shall be quenched" Mark 9:43, 45
"the fire is not quenched" Mark 9:44, 46, 48
"Where their worm dieth not" Mark 9:44, 46, 48
"wailing and gnashing of teeth" Matt 13:42, 50
"weeping and gnashing of teeth" Matt 8:12, 22:13, 25:30
"torments" Luke 16:23
"tormented in this flame" Luke 16:24
"place of torment" Luke 16:28
"outer darkness" Matt 8:12, 22:13
"everlasting punishment" Matt 25:46

WHAT IF JESUS IS RIGHT?

Hebrews 9:27 says, "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this THE JUDGEMENT:"

it is appointed unto man once to die . . .
and one day — YOU will die . . .


But God is a God of LOVE. . . Why would a GOD OF LOVE send me to hell? Yes, God is a GOD OF LOVE — but God is also a HOLY GOD. A HOLY GOD demands payment for sin. Otherwise God would NOT and could NOT be HOLY.

Because God is holy — sin MUST be condemned. Joshua 24:19 says, ". . he is an HOLY GOD;. . . he will NOT forgive your transgressions nor your sins."

BUT FRIEND I HAVE GOOD NEWS!

God does NOT want you in hell

Hell was not made for man. Matthew 25:41 says, hell was, ". . . prepared for the devil and his angels:"

Because God is a GOD OF LOVE, and He LOVED YOU so much, He sent His Son, Jesus Christ, to this earth to die a cruel death on a cross to pay the price a HOLY GOD demands for your sins.

Romans 5:8 says, "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

God does not send someone to hell. You choose hell when you reject Jesus Christ. When you refuse God's love gift of eternal life in Jesus Christ. . .

YOU CHOOSE HELL!

Jesus Christ gave a solemn warning in Matthew 7:21-23

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. . . MANY will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

If it was for a few days, a few months, a few years or even a million years, but to be tormented — FOREVER! You will despair of ever having any deliverance! You will beg for death itself to come and take you away! You will curse the day you were born! Revelation 14:11 says, "The smoke of their TORMENT ascendeth up for EVER AND EVER: and they have NO REST DAY NOR NIGHT."
What could possibly be worth eternity in hell?

No wonder Jesus Christ said in Mark 8:36:

"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?"Mark 8:36:

God has something far better than words can describe for those who love Him. I Corinthians 2:9 says:

". . . Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love Him."I Corinthians 2:9

Friend, there is a place called hell! And, if you continually refuse God's gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ — just as sure as you live and breathe — ONE DAY YOU WILL WAKE UP IN HELL!

Don't wait until you die to find out the truth about Hell! Tomorrow may be too late! Proverbs 27:1 says, "Boast not thyself of tomorrow: for thou KNOWEST NOT what a day may bring forth."

Three people die every second, 180 every minute, since you started reading this — 2000 more people have gone into eternity! An automobile accident. . . A heart attack. . , A stroke. . .One thing is CERTAIN — you will DIE — today. . . tomorrow . . . a week. . . a month . . . a year. . . 5 years. . . 10 years. . . 20 years. . . 50 years — ONE THING IS CERTAIN —" . . .it is appointed unto man once TO DIE . . ."

Don't let anyone convince you that when you die it will be all over! The Bible says in Hebrews 9:27:

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this THE JUDGMENT." Hebrews 9:27

Revelation 20:15 says:

"And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE." Revelation 20:15



talldub's photo
Sat 10/04/08 08:48 PM
Don't wait until you die to find out the truth about Hell! Tomorrow may be too late!

There's another thing that bothers me about (some) religions, basically it's OK to sin your ass off during life but if you repent on your death bed all is forgiven? Why bother being nice at all then, you can just say sorry when your number's up and presto chango, all is forgiven!

feralcatlady's photo
Sat 10/04/08 08:55 PM
Edited by feralcatlady on Sat 10/04/08 08:57 PM

Don't wait until you die to find out the truth about Hell! Tomorrow may be too late!

There's another thing that bothers me about (some) religions, basically it's OK to sin your ass off during life but if you repent on your death bed all is forgiven? Why bother being nice at all then, you can just say sorry when your number's up and presto chango, all is forgiven!



you don't think God would know....God always knows you....From the time your in your mother's womb he knows you. Judgement is just that....and God will look at all of an individuals life.....You can not kill for example as a seriel killer and then ask for forgiveness with not meaning it in your heart. If it is meant truly and from your heart then yes you are correct....



* Realize you are a sinner.

"As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:" Romans 3:10

"... for there is no difference. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" Romans 3:23

* Realize you CAN NOT save yourself.

"But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; ..." Isaiah 64:6

"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, ..." Titus 3:5

* Realize that Jesus Christ died on the cross to pay for your sins.

"Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, ..." 1 Peter 2:24

"... Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood," Revelation 1:5

* Simply by faith receive Jesus Christ as your personal Savior.

"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:" John 1:12

" ...Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."" Acts 16:30,31

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16


WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE SAVED?

Pray this prayer, and mean it with all your heart.

Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and unless you save me I am lost forever. I thank you for dying for me at Calvary. I come to you now, Lord the best way I know how, and ask you to save me. I now receive you as my Savior. In Jesus Christ Name, Amen.

"How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation;"
Hebrews 2:3



talldub's photo
Sat 10/04/08 09:00 PM
Seems like a raw deal for the people that you f*cked over in your life and then, at the last moment repent, and hey! Everything's ok! Get out of jail free!

Dan99's photo
Sat 10/04/08 09:05 PM

Seems like a raw deal for the people that you f*cked over in your life and then, at the last moment repent, and hey! Everything's ok! Get out of jail free!


Man - 'I am so sorry for molesting those babies, save me Jesus, forgive me'

Jesus - 'In you come, son'

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