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Topic: What is the "mark of the beast"?
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Mon 10/06/08 01:03 PM
Skyhook,

I think we agree on so very many things that whether or not we see ourselves as "all one" or completely separate individuals is unimportant.

Perhaps the "I" that is the individual self (the observer that is you and me) is completely separate and maybe just the "stuff" we use to manifest "things" and "lifeforms" is what is actually "connected."

I agree that we are separate individual observers, forever gathering experience and memory and that our experience and memory form and gather and manifest other "things" and other lifeforms.

Information is shared and available. Truth is information.

jb

SkyHook5652's photo
Mon 10/06/08 02:55 PM

Skyhook,

I think we agree on so very many things that whether or not we see ourselves as "all one" or completely separate individuals is unimportant.

Perhaps the "I" that is the individual self (the observer that is you and me) is completely separate and maybe just the "stuff" we use to manifest "things" and "lifeforms" is what is actually "connected."

I agree that we are separate individual observers, forever gathering experience and memory and that our experience and memory form and gather and manifest other "things" and other lifeforms.

Information is shared and available. Truth is information.

jb
flowers

arkdanimal's photo
Tue 10/07/08 12:16 AM
Some people I see, can make a statement disguised by posing it as a question, hmmmmmm, kind of reminds me of the conversation between evil thoughts in someones mind and good thoughts, or as history tells it in one publication, "THE FALL OF MAN". you'll have a good day !

Krimsa's photo
Tue 10/07/08 04:19 AM
My guess on the "fall of man" incident or "Tree of Knowledge" tale actually depicted in the scripture was it was nothing more than an effective form of propaganda being employed to discredit the established Pagan faiths that were floating around during that time period and had been for thousands of years prior to the inception of Christendom. Thats my guess.

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Tue 10/07/08 09:21 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 10/07/08 09:21 AM
The Fall of Man has always been an interesting concept to consider its' meaning for me. I give all information the benefit of having some meaning.

In my world view, I think it refers to a state of consciousness which resulted in a lower frequency world to come into being. One where man must put their attention on survival and procreation rather than creativity. A world of hardship and death and many other challenges.

The physical universe was not always in existence. There were infinite spiritual worlds in existence long before the physical world came into being. The fall of man, I believe, is the entire physical universe.

jb

splendidlife's photo
Tue 10/07/08 09:55 AM

The Fall of Man has always been an interesting concept to consider its' meaning for me. I give all information the benefit of having some meaning.

In my world view, I think it refers to a state of consciousness which resulted in a lower frequency world to come into being. One where man must put their attention on survival and procreation rather than creativity. A world of hardship and death and many other challenges.

The physical universe was not always in existence. There were infinite spiritual worlds in existence long before the physical world came into being. The fall of man, I believe, is the entire physical universe.

jb


Think about gravity...

When we come into the physical, we experience gravity to an extent in the womb...

When we exit the womb, we REALLY experience gravity (in a big way).

As we gradually adjust to this bright, loud, harsh environment and try to make sense of all its elements hugely contrasting those from which we came, we forget. That perfect state eludes us more with each passing day.

We are here to experience ALL of this. We automatically "fall" when we enter this "world".

tribo's photo
Tue 10/07/08 10:52 AM


The Fall of Man has always been an interesting concept to consider its' meaning for me. I give all information the benefit of having some meaning.

In my world view, I think it refers to a state of consciousness which resulted in a lower frequency world to come into being. One where man must put their attention on survival and procreation rather than creativity. A world of hardship and death and many other challenges.

The physical universe was not always in existence. There were infinite spiritual worlds in existence long before the physical world came into being. The fall of man, I believe, is the entire physical universe.

jb


Think about gravity...

When we come into the physical, we experience gravity to an extent in the womb...

When we exit the womb, we REALLY experience gravity (in a big way).

As we gradually adjust to this bright, loud, harsh environment and try to make sense of all its elements hugely contrasting those from which we came, we forget. That perfect state eludes us more with each passing day.

We are here to experience ALL of this. We automatically "fall" when we enter this "world".


This world suffocates reality.

splendidlife's photo
Tue 10/07/08 11:30 AM



The Fall of Man has always been an interesting concept to consider its' meaning for me. I give all information the benefit of having some meaning.

In my world view, I think it refers to a state of consciousness which resulted in a lower frequency world to come into being. One where man must put their attention on survival and procreation rather than creativity. A world of hardship and death and many other challenges.

The physical universe was not always in existence. There were infinite spiritual worlds in existence long before the physical world came into being. The fall of man, I believe, is the entire physical universe.

jb


Think about gravity...

When we come into the physical, we experience gravity to an extent in the womb...

When we exit the womb, we REALLY experience gravity (in a big way).

As we gradually adjust to this bright, loud, harsh environment and try to make sense of all its elements hugely contrasting those from which we came, we forget. That perfect state eludes us more with each passing day.

We are here to experience ALL of this. We automatically "fall" when we enter this "world".


This world suffocates reality.


In a nutshell...


splendidlife's photo
Tue 10/07/08 12:09 PM




The Fall of Man has always been an interesting concept to consider its' meaning for me. I give all information the benefit of having some meaning.

In my world view, I think it refers to a state of consciousness which resulted in a lower frequency world to come into being. One where man must put their attention on survival and procreation rather than creativity. A world of hardship and death and many other challenges.

The physical universe was not always in existence. There were infinite spiritual worlds in existence long before the physical world came into being. The fall of man, I believe, is the entire physical universe.

jb


Think about gravity...

When we come into the physical, we experience gravity to an extent in the womb...

When we exit the womb, we REALLY experience gravity (in a big way).

As we gradually adjust to this bright, loud, harsh environment and try to make sense of all its elements hugely contrasting those from which we came, we forget. That perfect state eludes us more with each passing day.

We are here to experience ALL of this. We automatically "fall" when we enter this "world".


This world suffocates reality.


In a nutshell...




Actually... No...

I take that back.

This world doesn't suffocate reality. It subdues full memory of ALL reality, only presenting that which can be observed in the physical arena.

tribo's photo
Tue 10/07/08 12:20 PM





The Fall of Man has always been an interesting concept to consider its' meaning for me. I give all information the benefit of having some meaning.

In my world view, I think it refers to a state of consciousness which resulted in a lower frequency world to come into being. One where man must put their attention on survival and procreation rather than creativity. A world of hardship and death and many other challenges.

The physical universe was not always in existence. There were infinite spiritual worlds in existence long before the physical world came into being. The fall of man, I believe, is the entire physical universe.

jb


Think about gravity...

When we come into the physical, we experience gravity to an extent in the womb...

When we exit the womb, we REALLY experience gravity (in a big way).

As we gradually adjust to this bright, loud, harsh environment and try to make sense of all its elements hugely contrasting those from which we came, we forget. That perfect state eludes us more with each passing day.

We are here to experience ALL of this. We automatically "fall" when we enter this "world".


This world suffocates reality.


In a nutshell...




Actually... No...

I take that back.

This world doesn't suffocate reality. It subdues full memory of ALL reality, only presenting that which can be observed in the physical arena.


Well - make up your mind SL, dng woman you!!

laugh laugh flowerforyou

SkyHook5652's photo
Tue 10/07/08 12:26 PM
Edited by SkyHook5652 on Tue 10/07/08 12:26 PM
This world suffocates reality.
In a nutshell...
This world doesn't suffocate reality. It subdues full memory of ALL reality, only presenting that which can be observed in the physical arena.
C'mon people. A little personal accountability here please. Did someone shove you into this world against your will? Ya gonna blame god for all yer troubles?
:wink: :tongue: :banana:

Love y'all flowerforyou

SkyHook5652's photo
Tue 10/07/08 12:29 PM
Athough I kinda like SL's "literal" interpretation. Nothing like falling on your head in the first few seconds of life to twist your view of the world. :laughing:

tribo's photo
Tue 10/07/08 02:11 PM

This world suffocates reality.
In a nutshell...
This world doesn't suffocate reality. It subdues full memory of ALL reality, only presenting that which can be observed in the physical arena.
C'mon people. A little personal accountability here please. Did someone shove you into this world against your will? Ya gonna blame god for all yer troubles?
:wink: :tongue: :banana:

Love y'all flowerforyou

splendidlife's photo
Tue 10/07/08 02:14 PM
Did you mean to say something, Tribo, Darrrleeenk?

Krimsa's photo
Tue 10/07/08 02:20 PM
You have to make a comment Tribo!

I just like screaming that at people when they fail to say something brilliant that stops us all in our tracks. laugh laugh

tribo's photo
Tue 10/07/08 02:24 PM

Did you mean to say something, Tribo, Darrrleeenk?



Why Yes Natashka my Babushka, but i thought it might be to much borshk for others to concider - flowerforyou

I was just pondering [while sipping on my Vodka] the word reality - it seems there is a "Liar" hidden amongt the word.

but the thought quickly left me until you so lovinkly brought it back to memory.

mhuaaaaaaaaaaaaaasky - laugh flowerforyou :heart:

tribo's photo
Tue 10/07/08 02:28 PM

You have to make a comment Tribo!

I just like screaming that at people when they fail to say something brilliant that stops us all in our tracks. laugh laugh




HMMM??? i don't rekall reading that in the rulesky's - could you point that out for me please my little alpaca princess. [sips his wotka] ahh - once againsky i get to play russian for awhilesky - tongue2

feralcatlady's photo
Tue 10/07/08 02:31 PM
tribo is the beast.....but in such a good way....


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feralcatlady's photo
Tue 10/07/08 02:31 PM
tribo is the beast.....but in such a good way....


laugh laugh laugh laugh :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

tribo's photo
Tue 10/07/08 02:35 PM
And since i'm now in my Russian rolesky - I was ponderink the original postsky - and i tink the - "marx of the beastsky" maybe a "Wodka label" butt then againsk i can not say for suresky my little minksky's.flowers laugh tongue2

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