Topic: MEN..is this your view of the American feminine mentality at
shoesmonkey's photo
Fri 09/26/08 07:23 AM


This is what a lady said and alot of it i have to agree.




There seems to be a huge misconception about "foreign" women. They are not bare foot baby machines who "mother" their husbands as some of you American women referred to them. If anything they are better multi-taskers, they work whether in factories or corporate, keep a clean home, cook a meal from scratch and raise well behaved grateful children, and have marriages that last, and the best part is that they do all this without b**ching and moaning. Any relationship is about compromise but it seems to me that many American women do not understand the definition of this term.

You women want the house surrounded by the white picket fence, but you don't want to maintain this house, instead you hire a cleaning lady to come in once a week. You want a bunch of kids, but you get a nanny to raise them. This is not independence - its pure laziness.



Uhh.. I have heard from MANY men their constant complaints about marriage.. "ball and chain" comments..ect ect... perhaps if they put more energy in the marriage they'd get more out of it also!

And chit.. where is MY cleaning lady? where WAS my nanny?? I'd like a white picket fence! lmao
White picket fence, that's ALL I ever wanted, never even got that.

TxsGal3333's photo
Fri 09/26/08 07:25 AM
It is true no doubt I'm amazed at some of the younger generation myself. They don't cook and expect the guys to wait on them hand and foot. I was not raised that way nor was either of my kids. My son can out cook any woman and out clean them. My daughter treats her b/f like gold and values her time with him. Not saying my kids are perfect only they have been raised to respect the one they are with and to know it takes two to help out in every way.

I taught both to be very independent in life that was important to me for them to be able to live on their own. But more important is that they learn one can not make a relationship work. Humm my son knows he has had his share of them and at times he was just as much at fault as the one he was with.

But.......your right so many now days are out for themselves and that is all they think about. I want someone that looks out for me as well as themselves. And willing to share their whole self not just a part of them.

Like I said you get what you give!!

no photo
Fri 09/26/08 07:28 AM
JMO...NOT ALL...but too many children were and are being rasied by a TV and video games. Part of that is not all the parent's fault. We live in a time where, in most situations, it takes both parents working to be able to support the family. When these children become adults...where did they get their values and morals? From the tv where one day you can be a drug addict and the next day you can be a huge tv star or a big sports figure? That being thin to the bone is what each girl should look like?

I believe we get our values alot from our environment and experiences, they're not born into us.


lionsbrew's photo
Fri 09/26/08 07:28 AM
As a part of the younger generation I believe this whole topic comes to down to the selfishness of the population as whole for our younger generation. I grew up with both of my parents still together which in my generation is almost unheard of. I learned from my father and mothers values. If I got a whooping i deserved it. Our whole generation was brought up to be selfish and has totally forgotten what it means to actually give yourself to another. They have forgotten the hard work and sacrifice that goes into raising children and providing a healthy atmosphere for their families. I have suffered through plenty of heartache in giving myself to another who didn't understand what sacrifice and hard work making a relationship work are. So my stand point is this people in general need to be less selfish cause thats where 99% of the problem with normal relationships stem from.

me2g's photo
Fri 09/26/08 07:29 AM

It is true no doubt I'm amazed at some of the younger generation myself. They don't cook and expect the guys to wait on them hand and foot. I was not raised that way nor was either of my kids. My son can out cook any woman and out clean them. My daughter treats her b/f like gold and values her time with him. Not saying my kids are perfect only they have been raised to respect the one they are with and to know it takes two to help out in every way.

I taught both to be very independent in life that was important to me for them to be able to live on their own. But more important is that they learn one can not make a relationship work. Humm my son knows he has had his share of them and at times he was just as much at fault as the one he was with.

But.......your right so many now days are out for themselves and that is all they think about. I want someone that looks out for me as well as themselves. And willing to share their whole self not just a part of them.

Like I said you get what you give!!


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shoesmonkey's photo
Fri 09/26/08 07:29 AM
American women are expected to do it all. Take care of the kid's, cook, clean, etc. There isn't enough time in the day to di it all yet, these women do their best! What about the lazy azz husband who come's home, sit's on hos butt and can't even bother to take out the trash????????? Or mow the lawn. We womwn CAN NOT DO IT ALL.

lionsbrew's photo
Fri 09/26/08 07:33 AM

American women are expected to do it all. Take care of the kid's, cook, clean, etc. There isn't enough time in the day to di it all yet, these women do their best! What about the lazy azz husband who come's home, sit's on hos butt and can't even bother to take out the trash????????? Or mow the lawn. We womwn CAN NOT DO IT ALL.
You are absolutely right . I know I did all that with my ex wife. She was the lazy one on the couch.Thats why i believe it all comes down to selfishness.

TheShadow's photo
Fri 09/26/08 07:34 AM

JMO...NOT ALL...but too many children were and are being rasied by a TV and video games. Part of that is not all the parent's fault. We live in a time where, in most situations, it takes both parents working to be able to support the family. When these children become adults...where did they get their values and morals? From the tv where one day you can be a drug addict and the next day you can be a huge tv star or a big sports figure? That being thin to the bone is what each girl should look like?

I believe we get our values alot from our environment and experiences, they're not born into us.




Just for a laugh :smile: But who baught the games for them?laugh it's like telling a kid to shut up so they didn't bother them. JMO Nowa days it's compsohwell

BigGlenn's photo
Fri 09/26/08 07:35 AM
Ruth said I'm hot.
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Fri 09/26/08 07:40 AM


JMO...NOT ALL...but too many children were and are being rasied by a TV and video games. Part of that is not all the parent's fault. We live in a time where, in most situations, it takes both parents working to be able to support the family. When these children become adults...where did they get their values and morals? From the tv where one day you can be a drug addict and the next day you can be a huge tv star or a big sports figure? That being thin to the bone is what each girl should look like?

I believe we get our values alot from our environment and experiences, they're not born into us.




Just for a laugh :smile: But who baught the games for them?laugh it's like telling a kid to shut up so they didn't bother them. JMO Nowa days it's compsohwell


It's true Shadow...the parents do that. And they're the "older" generation. So, why do they do that? Because Mom has worked 8 hrs, she still has dinner to prepare, laundry to do, hopefully she helps them with home work, baths, etc. So you have, maybe from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. to get that all "worked" in and still QUALITY time to spend with each other? It would be nice if some of the "old ways" were brought back. again, JMHO

shoesmonkey's photo
Fri 09/26/08 07:40 AM
This author need's to take a look at men in today's American culture. You know, the guy that dump's the woman he has children with. How many single mother's do we have now as a result of these life slacker's?

BigGlenn's photo
Fri 09/26/08 07:41 AM

Ruth said I'm hot.
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lionsbrew's photo
Fri 09/26/08 07:43 AM
Edited by lionsbrew on Fri 09/26/08 07:44 AM
Our current economy forces alot of dual income families. And yes children suffer from it because learning from ones parents
can't be duplicated in any form. There are however plenty of parental controls on tvs computers .Raising a well adjusted well mannered child takes alot of hard work most people are to selfish and lazy to put out there. Parents because we are working still need to find the time to go through what our kids are reading and watching. Lazy parenting also breed lazy children. When my son wants to do something we do our chores first. When there isn't anything in my views I think he should watch we read a book play a game or sport . I limit the time he is on a computer or game console . I play the games and listen to the music and watch the shows and determine what i believe he should or shouldn't be exposed to thats parenting. It is necessary for both parents to take part and communicate what their children are doing while balancing the work load between them. If your not ready for children and the work and dedication needed to raise a family do yourself a favor keep it in your pants.

TxsGal3333's photo
Fri 09/26/08 07:45 AM

Ruth said I'm hot.
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LMAO, ya are hot Big Guy so smile by the way hi and hope all is going well for you and the kids. Good to see ya around the forums.bigsmile

RKISIT's photo
Fri 09/26/08 07:46 AM
Edited by RKISIT on Fri 09/26/08 07:51 AM
i believe we just have to accept the way things are,each individual has their views and points,and some can find the core to the problem but there is no solution. so my point is yes todays youth is about them,people get rid of friends because they cant benefit from them,and so on. until there is a solution that can fix the issue, then all we can do is just b!tch about it.i personally believe that some of r youths problems is bad parenting and bad influences:smile:remember kids are like video cameras they see and hear alot more than we adults think they do:smile:

SVImager's photo
Fri 09/26/08 07:51 AM
I didn't read it all.

But I don't think it is a women thing.
It is an American Thing.

Being from outside the box looking in...all the time.
I see American Culture typically lack Respect for one another, even to their parents and grandparents and now it is to themselves.

It is part of the me-ism disposable commercialized Branding American Culture.
Who are you?
I am a Oakley, Lexus, Nike, Starbuck, Lucky Jeans kind of guy.

It is brainwashing at its best from the movies and TV.
The products you wear and have defines who you are and we are all buying into it... except for the foreigners.

You know you can program the subconscious... you say "I Like Myself. I can do it. I am the Best." with vigor everyday... and eventually you will believe it and act like it and eventually be it. Well, multiply that by how many hours you watch TV 15 mins for every hour... they are pumping an image of you being Happy because of the things you can have. Your self image is being manipulated and reshaped to fit what they are selling. (Why would someone ask what do you drive? In their minds, The product you have identifies who you are) The problem comes when your reality doesn't match with their programmed thinner prettier self-image. Dove new ad campaign is addressing this self-image issue.

no photo
Fri 09/26/08 07:53 AM
Welp, the way I see it, is, More and more women of all ages are figuring out that they already own 100% of the P***y...and figuring furthermore that no man has anything at all to trump that with.

Eventually, All females will know this;
Men we are doomed.frustrated tears







TxsGal3333's photo
Fri 09/26/08 07:54 AM
Well I must say I was raised by one parent due to my mom passed away at a very early age. But.....in no way did we lack learning respect and to be honest. We were taught if you wanted something it was up to you to get it for things were not handed to my brother and I. Life was not always easy and to grow up you did not have to buy your kids everything on the shelfs. I also raised my kids as a single parent and yes worked a full time job.

What too many forget is not to let all the little stuff drive you nuts instead spend time with your kids.

The problem I see today is not so much teaching one to cook and clean ect it is the emotionally bond they are lacking with their kids. By letting the tv be their release or video games and not having any contact with them theirselves.

If parents now days was to spend time interacting with their kids on a one on one level do things they like to do talk about what they want to talk about. There would be a big difference in the way kids treated others and they would carry that with them as they grow up.

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Fri 09/26/08 07:54 AM

Anyone who thinks Latinas (or other non-US women) are docile should spend a week with them first..laugh , the thing is that gender-roles are still followed, but with a more modern thinking in terms of women as people rather than servants, caretakers or incubators. Additionally, its still possible to live on one income in most latin american countries so being a stay-at-home mom is the norm.
Face it, finances has a lot more to do with the break down in "family values", than feminism....

TheShadow's photo
Fri 09/26/08 07:55 AM



JMO...NOT ALL...but too many children were and are being rasied by a TV and video games. Part of that is not all the parent's fault. We live in a time where, in most situations, it takes both parents working to be able to support the family. When these children become adults...where did they get their values and morals? From the tv where one day you can be a drug addict and the next day you can be a huge tv star or a big sports figure? That being thin to the bone is what each girl should look like?

I believe we get our values alot from our environment and experiences, they're not born into us.




Just for a laugh :smile: But who baught the games for them?laugh it's like telling a kid to shut up so they didn't bother them. JMO Nowa days it's compsohwell


It's true Shadow...the parents do that. And they're the "older" generation. So, why do they do that? Because Mom has worked 8 hrs, she still has dinner to prepare, laundry to do, hopefully she helps them with home work, baths, etc. So you have, maybe from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. to get that all "worked" in and still QUALITY time to spend with each other? It would be nice if some of the "old ways" were brought back. again, JMHO

I agree, it is harder theses days, alot harder for if your a single parent to teach and to have that time with you kids. So in that sence is does lead to giving things to occupy there time.hell, it happend to me but lucky latter in life my dad did stick to his ways and some of it did rub off:smile: