Topic: MEN..is this your view of the American feminine mentality at
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Fri 09/26/08 09:40 AM


I believe a man should do whatever I tell him.......or be sent to the NAUGHTY CHAIR!!!devil laugh devil :tongue:


Beat me, beat me!!! Make me write bad checks!!!!:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Oh laaaaaaaaaawd!!! And so it came to pass....devil noway laugh

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Fri 09/26/08 09:41 AM


I believe in equality. I believe that a woman should take care of a man as much as a man should take care of a woman. On that note, I am also a firm believer that men's jobs in the home should be the same as a woman's. There shouldn't be that classification of what is a person's role.


The problem is that there are quite a few women who believe that " equality " is defined as " I don't have to do sh*t as far as keeping the relationship going ".

They seem to ignore the fact that, contained in the word equality, is the word EQUAL.

They have been ingrained with the ideas that they are more intelligent than men, that we ( men ) are nothing but a bunch of beer swilling, fat, lazy jerks who care about nothing more than when we will be getting laid next.

These are the same women who p*ss and moan when a guy cheats on them.

Well...if a guy is not getting what he needs ( mentally AND physically ) from the one he is with, chances are that he is going to start trying to find someone who DOES give him what he needs.
Ohhhhhhhhhh you opened up a big can of worms there buddy!!! May you rest in peace!!!surprised scared shocked

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Fri 09/26/08 09:42 AM

I believe a man should do whatever I tell him.......or be sent to the NAUGHTY CHAIR!!!devil laugh devil :tongue:


Gypsy, somehow I see men looking at that as a good thing. I might be wrong .....

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Fri 09/26/08 09:42 AM
If I have, so be it.

LOTS of women say that they want " honesty " from a man. Well...like it or not, I am honest in my answers, and I will take any flack that may come from posting what I have observed.

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Fri 09/26/08 09:43 AM

Shadow -- In my experience, it is never that simple. Yes, I have run into scowling American women and disenchanted soccer moms and people who dovetail very nicely into this guy's premise.

But many, many who certainly do not.

I've always had issues with overgeneralizers. The ones who post "Why do all men ______?" and "Why are all women _____?" -- the word "all" is usually code for "I saw someone do this and I am now going to extrapolate to ridiculous extremes because I didn't like it, and I am either too lazy or too biased to consider alternative explanations."

But whose problem is that, really? The extrapolator. Unless others actually start to listen and believe him. Then it becomes everybody's problem.

Some people are best ignored....






Yeah, the OP did overgeneraliz and i did see that and i did post a reply to OP and put it on the bottonm of his post on here so everyone would see where i stood on it. Life has change on how people see people and how they think one should be taken care of and even then. that is something that is given freely. Not somthing that should be a demand and i think, Men/Women these days do put that demand and expectations to what they want in a relationship and alot of the timje they don't even see that they'er doing it and thats because they think it's normal.

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Fri 09/26/08 09:45 AM

I got this from another site.

A collegue emailed me this writing:

When an American man pitches woo to a foreign woman, it is a direct and bold statement that the man is not going to play the game that the American feminists so desperately want. A foreign woman is not (yet) burdened by the clash of expectations that American woman cannot cope with. A foreign woman typically has no problem with making a man happy because her culture tells her that a man’s happiness reflects well on her own success as a woman. Foreign women know that if they give love, they will receive love. They know that the unintended consequence of independence is loneliness.

The sad stereotype of the shrill, unfriendly, independent American career woman is becoming stronger and stronger. The equally repellent stereotype of the overwrought and unfriendly soccer mom shuttling her kids around while trying to keep her independence is also becoming part of our cultural landscape. The scowling American woman is all too common. It’s not men making her scowl. It’s her inability to see reality and choose appropriately that is making her scowl.

I am not angry with American women. I merely pity them. I pity them for embracing feminism without any critical thought. I pity them for making men the enemy and not loving partners. I pity them for their unsuccessful struggle with their own rules. I pity them for not understanding that life is about compromise and that compromise is not weakness.

When an American woman asks about my job, my car, my home I can only sigh in dismay. Men are not simply wallets to be looted. Nor are we all rapists and gorillas. We are complex and interesting humans who need respect and love, as do women. Pathetically, American women have been brainwashed into thinking that giving love and respecting men is somehow evil and wrong. No matter, American women can wallow in misery as much as they want. I will happily and respectfully court my Latin girlfriend and let independent and unfriendly American women enjoy their cats.


This is what i posted on that thread and wanted everyone to know i don't believe all this letter and what your about to read what i sais on that thread wasn't ment as to all of the younger generation.

Did any of you notice that almost all the women that made there comment were 40 and above?


I asked this because the world is run by the younger generation as far as this letter goes. The younger generation when it comes to women do not know how to cook a home cook meal or even appreciate doing that for a man. the simple thing that can actually make a man feel good among other thing that men do for women theses days. Now mind you. I know alot of men have problems so in one sence i blame them as well. The women in todays world as far as the younger generation goes. they expect to be taken out all the time, baught flowers, travel, etc etc. I bring this up because in the younger generation when it come to women. They expect the man to take care of her but do not really give anything back. This might seem rude and i do appologize for the women that don't understand this. But women that were brought up in the younger generation and from my experience think because they have something beteen there legs that that is all they need to give. I been with 30 women in my life time and not one of them has given as much as i have. And this is why i have never been in love with any women i been with and thats because i believe being in love is actually giving your intire being to the one your with. The women that are on this post may of been brought up in a time where they did take care of there men better then these days, but lack to pass it down...




kinda strange and really just one person's perception

that stereotype exists really only in the media. if you get out in the real world it doesnt exist


I been with 30 women in my life time and not one of them has given as much as i have. And this is why i have never been in love with any women i been with


THERE is the problem with this whole quote. thirty failed relationships and the only common denominator is him. and he is projecting his failures on the female population at large

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Fri 09/26/08 09:47 AM
Yes........we all need to really look at ourselves in our failed relationships. What we have chosen.....its not always the other person's fault!!!

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Fri 09/26/08 09:49 AM
Ohhhhhhhhhh you opened up a big can of worms there buddy!!! May you rest in peace!!!surprised scared shocked



The problem is that there are quite a few women who believe that " equality " is defined as " I don't have to do sh*t as far as keeping the relationship going ".
so negative about women - why'd you let her do a number on you?

They seem to ignore the fact that, contained in the word equality, is the word EQUAL.
the usage of 'we' is better suited for this phrase

They have been ingrained with the ideas that they are more intelligent than men, that we ( men ) are nothing but a bunch of beer swilling, fat, lazy jerks who care about nothing more than when we will be getting laid next.
and your point is what?

These are the same women who p*ss and moan when a guy cheats on them.
are you saying the reason a man cheats is because some woman p!ssed and moaned :laughing:
Well...if a guy is not getting what he needs ( mentally AND physically ) from the one he is with, chances are that he is going to start trying to find someone who DOES give him what he needs.

if a man doesn't like what he has at home, he can get the __ out!!! :laughing: I'll give ya what you need a big old can of ________ :laughing:



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Fri 09/26/08 09:55 AM
Edited by OneMoreTimeAround on Fri 09/26/08 10:28 AM
ohhhhhhh and here could be another thread...why is it when a man cheats...it's the woman's fault cause she didn't give him what HE needed and wanted? and the poor guy...oh it's ok cause it's the wife's fault...but if a wife cheats...omg..the Sl**, Wh***, she should be hung up and shot because of course HER man WAS and ALWAYS did give her what SHE needed and wanted.

Case in point...the wonderful senator and presidential candidate from this state in which I live..John Edwards.

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Fri 09/26/08 09:56 AM

Ohhhhhhhhhh you opened up a big can of worms there buddy!!! May you rest in peace!!!surprised scared shocked



The problem is that there are quite a few women who believe that " equality " is defined as " I don't have to do sh*t as far as keeping the relationship going ".
so negative about women - why'd you let her do a number on you?


Who said it was me? I am simply posting the things that I have observed.


They seem to ignore the fact that, contained in the word equality, is the word EQUAL.
the usage of 'we' is better suited for this phrase

Perhaps. My mistake.


They have been ingrained with the ideas that they are more intelligent than men, that we ( men ) are nothing but a bunch of beer swilling, fat, lazy jerks who care about nothing more than when we will be getting laid next.
and your point is what?

My point is that not all of us ( men ) are what wome have been TAUGHT that we are.


These are the same women who p*ss and moan when a guy cheats on them.
are you saying the reason a man cheats is because some woman p!ssed and moaned :laughing:

Nope. I am saying that the women who pull the kind of sh*t that I referred to are the same women who do all the complaining about how awful men are.

Well...if a guy is not getting what he needs ( mentally AND physically ) from the one he is with, chances are that he is going to start trying to find someone who DOES give him what he needs.

if a man doesn't like what he has at home, he can get the __ out!!! :laughing: I'll give ya what you need a big old can of ________ :laughing:

Yeah...instead of trying to find out what is missing, just kick him out. Then go and complain about how terrible we men are. Great idea.

* This is NOT a personal attack or criticism of any particular individual. Nor am I trying to " lump " women into a general category. Any insinuations to the contrary are strictly in the mind of the reader of the post *




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Fri 09/26/08 10:01 AM
Edited by TheShadow on Fri 09/26/08 10:05 AM


I got this from another site.

A collegue emailed me this writing:

When an American man pitches woo to a foreign woman, it is a direct and bold statement that the man is not going to play the game that the American feminists so desperately want. A foreign woman is not (yet) burdened by the clash of expectations that American woman cannot cope with. A foreign woman typically has no problem with making a man happy because her culture tells her that a man’s happiness reflects well on her own success as a woman. Foreign women know that if they give love, they will receive love. They know that the unintended consequence of independence is loneliness.

The sad stereotype of the shrill, unfriendly, independent American career woman is becoming stronger and stronger. The equally repellent stereotype of the overwrought and unfriendly soccer mom shuttling her kids around while trying to keep her independence is also becoming part of our cultural landscape. The scowling American woman is all too common. It’s not men making her scowl. It’s her inability to see reality and choose appropriately that is making her scowl.

I am not angry with American women. I merely pity them. I pity them for embracing feminism without any critical thought. I pity them for making men the enemy and not loving partners. I pity them for their unsuccessful struggle with their own rules. I pity them for not understanding that life is about compromise and that compromise is not weakness.

When an American woman asks about my job, my car, my home I can only sigh in dismay. Men are not simply wallets to be looted. Nor are we all rapists and gorillas. We are complex and interesting humans who need respect and love, as do women. Pathetically, American women have been brainwashed into thinking that giving love and respecting men is somehow evil and wrong. No matter, American women can wallow in misery as much as they want. I will happily and respectfully court my Latin girlfriend and let independent and unfriendly American women enjoy their cats.


This is what i posted on that thread and wanted everyone to know i don't believe all this letter and what your about to read what i sais on that thread wasn't ment as to all of the younger generation.

Did any of you notice that almost all the women that made there comment were 40 and above?


I asked this because the world is run by the younger generation as far as this letter goes. The younger generation when it comes to women do not know how to cook a home cook meal or even appreciate doing that for a man. the simple thing that can actually make a man feel good among other thing that men do for women theses days. Now mind you. I know alot of men have problems so in one sence i blame them as well. The women in todays world as far as the younger generation goes. they expect to be taken out all the time, baught flowers, travel, etc etc. I bring this up because in the younger generation when it come to women. They expect the man to take care of her but do not really give anything back. This might seem rude and i do appologize for the women that don't understand this. But women that were brought up in the younger generation and from my experience think because they have something beteen there legs that that is all they need to give. I been with 30 women in my life time and not one of them has given as much as i have. And this is why i have never been in love with any women i been with and thats because i believe being in love is actually giving your intire being to the one your with. The women that are on this post may of been brought up in a time where they did take care of there men better then these days, but lack to pass it down...




kinda strange and really just one person's perception

that stereotype exists really only in the media. if you get out in the real world it doesnt exist


I been with 30 women in my life time and not one of them has given as much as i have. And this is why i have never been in love with any women i been with


THERE is the problem with this whole quote. thirty failed relationships and the only common denominator is him. and he is projecting his failures on the female population at large


I would say so, and this goes for Men/Women. You have to think at the age of a teen till now. Most women that were and are that are interested in a man with long hair. Think life is a party, that getting high is a way of enjoying life, but now that i'm older and the women are. Things have changed with some of them. I been around AA 25 of my life and thats because of my dad being sober that long. And it open my eyes to alot of things that most people don't see in life, that they let pass by. I'm not saying i didn't make my mistakes. I'm humon, it's going to happen. And yes. Not one of them gave as much as i did. I was brought up that you should be there for the one your with in everyway. Tell me how many women you been with that did that and if so. Why are you not with them? Ill tell you why. Most don't have the respect for themselves to even give that respect to a man to even want to take care of him. as the expect a man to do for them. Now mind you. I'm talking about mostley the younger generation in this day and time. look at your bars, clubs,etc etc that most of them base ther life off ofohwell

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Fri 09/26/08 10:05 AM
Justaguy - thanks - your reply was amusing love the disclaimer at the end - :laughing: :thumbsup:

Generalizations leave the topic too vague to debate, but that may be what some are after.

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Fri 09/26/08 10:08 AM
I heard all the hot women came from Canada!!! Foreign enough???devil laugh laugh devil

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Fri 09/26/08 10:11 AM
the "hottest" man I ever knew came from Canada so I guess it could work both ways. :wink:

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Fri 09/26/08 10:12 AM


Ohhhhhhhhhh you opened up a big can of worms there buddy!!! May you rest in peace!!!surprised scared shocked



The problem is that there are quite a few women who believe that " equality " is defined as " I don't have to do sh*t as far as keeping the relationship going ".
so negative about women - why'd you let her do a number on you?


Who said it was me? I am simply posting the things that I have observed.


They seem to ignore the fact that, contained in the word equality, is the word EQUAL.
the usage of 'we' is better suited for this phrase


Perhaps. My mistake.


They have been ingrained with the ideas that they are more intelligent than men, that we ( men ) are nothing but a bunch of beer swilling, fat, lazy jerks who care about nothing more than when we will be getting laid next.
and your point is what?

My point is that not all of us ( men ) are what wome have been TAUGHT that we are.


These are the same women who p*ss and moan when a guy cheats on them.
are you saying the reason a man cheats is because some woman p!ssed and moaned :laughing:

Nope. I am saying that the women who pull the kind of sh*t that I referred to are the same women who do all the complaining about how awful men are.

Well...if a guy is not getting what he needs ( mentally AND physically ) from the one he is with, chances are that he is going to start trying to find someone who DOES give him what he needs.

if a man doesn't like what he has at home, he can get the __ out!!! :laughing: I'll give ya what you need a big old can of ________ :laughing:

Yeah...instead of trying to find out what is missing, just kick him out. Then go and complain about how terrible we men are. Great idea.

* This is NOT a personal attack or criticism of any particular individual. Nor am I trying to " lump " women into a general category. Any insinuations to the contrary are strictly in the mind of the reader of the post *







Well is that not what you do with a man/woman that cheats for they have already shown you they are not man or woman enough to buck up and take the heat and work things out.

So why keep them instead find someone with some values.

As far as a man not having what he wants at home and that is why he cheats that is a crock of chit. Just and excuse for one to blame his insecurities on another.

Be a man and work out their problems at home and if it can not be then buck up and walk away before jumping in the sack with another. shshshshsh

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Fri 09/26/08 10:16 AM


I believe in equality. I believe that a woman should take care of a man as much as a man should take care of a woman. On that note, I am also a firm believer that men's jobs in the home should be the same as a woman's. There shouldn't be that classification of what is a person's role.


The problem is that there are quite a few women who believe that " equality " is defined as " I don't have to do sh*t as far as keeping the relationship going ".

They seem to ignore the fact that, contained in the word equality, is the word EQUAL.

They have been ingrained with the ideas that they are more intelligent than men, that we ( men ) are nothing but a bunch of beer swilling, fat, lazy jerks who care about nothing more than when we will be getting laid next.

These are the same women who p*ss and moan when a guy cheats on them.

Well...if a guy is not getting what he needs ( mentally AND physically ) from the one he is with, chances are that he is going to start trying to find someone who DOES give him what he needs.


That may be some women..but not me. I think it is a must that both sides do what they need to make a relationship work. Flowers die, jewlery gets boring..a relationship is an ongoing thing that should not be neglected by either side. Not all guys are like that..as well as not all women.

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Fri 09/26/08 10:17 AM
Men know everything - all of them - all the time - no matter how stupid or inexperienced or arrogant or ignorant they are.
Andrea Dworkin


While gossip among women is universally ridiculed as low and trivial, gossip among men, especially if it is about women, is called theory, or idea, or fact.
Andrea Dworkin

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Fri 09/26/08 10:19 AM

If I have, so be it.

LOTS of women say that they want " honesty " from a man. Well...like it or not, I am honest in my answers, and I will take any flack that may come from posting what I have observed.



Honesty is always a good thing...sometimes people can't handle honesty.

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Fri 09/26/08 10:21 AM



Ohhhhhhhhhh you opened up a big can of worms there buddy!!! May you rest in peace!!!surprised scared shocked



The problem is that there are quite a few women who believe that " equality " is defined as " I don't have to do sh*t as far as keeping the relationship going ".
so negative about women - why'd you let her do a number on you?


Who said it was me? I am simply posting the things that I have observed.


They seem to ignore the fact that, contained in the word equality, is the word EQUAL.
the usage of 'we' is better suited for this phrase


Perhaps. My mistake.


They have been ingrained with the ideas that they are more intelligent than men, that we ( men ) are nothing but a bunch of beer swilling, fat, lazy jerks who care about nothing more than when we will be getting laid next.
and your point is what?


My point is that not all of us ( men ) are what wome have been TAUGHT that we are.


These are the same women who p*ss and moan when a guy cheats on them.
are you saying the reason a man cheats is because some woman p!ssed and moaned :laughing:

Nope. I am saying that the women who pull the kind of sh*t that I referred to are the same women who do all the complaining about how awful men are.

Well...if a guy is not getting what he needs ( mentally AND physically ) from the one he is with, chances are that he is going to start trying to find someone who DOES give him what he needs.

if a man doesn't like what he has at home, he can get the __ out!!! :laughing: I'll give ya what you need a big old can of ________ :laughing:

Yeah...instead of trying to find out what is missing, just kick him out. Then go and complain about how terrible we men are. Great idea.

* This is NOT a personal attack or criticism of any particular individual. Nor am I trying to " lump " women into a general category. Any insinuations to the contrary are strictly in the mind of the reader of the post *







Well is that not what you do with a man/woman that cheats for they have already shown you they are not man or woman enough to buck up and take the heat and work things out.

So why keep them instead find someone with some values.

As far as a man not having what he wants at home and that is why he cheats that is a crock of chit. Just and excuse for one to blame his insecurities on another.

Be a man and work out their problems at home and if it can not be then buck up and walk away before jumping in the sack with another. shshshshsh


I think what you said has to do with alot of it. alot of people think if any little problem come up. I can't deal with this and run, What hapen to actually working things out or at least trying. Yes, there are some situations where things are to much. But to using not having what he wants or what she wants is a crock. Blaming the other will never get anyone anyware. I have done this and kinda still do wth my ex, but at the same time i know i have to take responciblity for my own actions and thats when i see the over all picture and start to grow. How many are actually willing to do thatohwell

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Fri 09/26/08 10:25 AM




Ohhhhhhhhhh you opened up a big can of worms there buddy!!! May you rest in peace!!!surprised scared shocked



The problem is that there are quite a few women who believe that " equality " is defined as " I don't have to do sh*t as far as keeping the relationship going ".
so negative about women - why'd you let her do a number on you?


Who said it was me? I am simply posting the things that I have observed.


They seem to ignore the fact that, contained in the word equality, is the word EQUAL.
the usage of 'we' is better suited for this phrase


Perhaps. My mistake.


They have been ingrained with the ideas that they are more intelligent than men, that we ( men ) are nothing but a bunch of beer swilling, fat, lazy jerks who care about nothing more than when we will be getting laid next.
and your point is what?


My point is that not all of us ( men ) are what wome have been TAUGHT that we are.


These are the same women who p*ss and moan when a guy cheats on them.
are you saying the reason a man cheats is because some woman p!ssed and moaned :laughing:


Nope. I am saying that the women who pull the kind of sh*t that I referred to are the same women who do all the complaining about how awful men are.

Well...if a guy is not getting what he needs ( mentally AND physically ) from the one he is with, chances are that he is going to start trying to find someone who DOES give him what he needs.

if a man doesn't like what he has at home, he can get the __ out!!! :laughing: I'll give ya what you need a big old can of ________ :laughing:

Yeah...instead of trying to find out what is missing, just kick him out. Then go and complain about how terrible we men are. Great idea.

* This is NOT a personal attack or criticism of any particular individual. Nor am I trying to " lump " women into a general category. Any insinuations to the contrary are strictly in the mind of the reader of the post *







Well is that not what you do with a man/woman that cheats for they have already shown you they are not man or woman enough to buck up and take the heat and work things out.

So why keep them instead find someone with some values.

As far as a man not having what he wants at home and that is why he cheats that is a crock of chit. Just and excuse for one to blame his insecurities on another.

Be a man and work out their problems at home and if it can not be then buck up and walk away before jumping in the sack with another. shshshshsh


I think what you said has to do with alot of it. alot of people think if any little problem come up. I can't deal with this and run, What hapen to actually working things out or at least trying. Yes, there are some situations where things are to much. But to using not having what he wants or what she wants is a crock. Blaming the other will never get anyone anyware. I have done this and kinda still do wth my ex, but at the same time i know i have to take responciblity for my own actions and thats when i see the over all picture and start to grow. How many are actually willing to do thatohwell
Depends if it can be fixed......if its violence then no but if its who keeps leaving the lid off the toothpaste etc.......then it can be fixable.