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Krimsa's photo
Sat 09/20/08 05:06 AM

since I don't accept it, maybe it does mean i'm saying they are wrong, but then again, thats just me, people that believe in it, i'm not trying to say they are wrong and this is just getting even more confusing trying to explain myselflaugh but it's an attempt.

lets just say we agree that we disagree and on that we can hopefully leave it, I'm tired anyway, really need to get some sleep, hate daylight, i'm kind of a night person


I understand you are attempting to not appear as confrontational. I can respect that. This is a topic that is very open to debate. My point was that this is not the thread for that to occur as there are many other threads that have addressed the subject matter. You always have the option of beginning a new thread if you want. You ALWAYS have the right to proclaim the Theory of Evolution as erroneous in some capacity. You would then be confronted by members who accept the theory and you would be asked to support your view and explain to us why you feel as you do. That is the nature of open communication. We are no longer living in the Middle Ages when people were murdered and thrown in dungeons for simply disagreeing with the church.

beachbum069's photo
Sat 09/20/08 05:06 AM


The universe was created by Bill Gates on a Windows 95 pentium II computer with a 500mb HD and 256kb ram.
laugh what's up beach, good morningdrinker

I have documentation so everyone MUST believe me or will rot in Hell.flowerforyou

SharpShooter10's photo
Sat 09/20/08 05:08 AM










I just choose for myself to leave it, is that so wrong,


No. Who ever said that was wrong? Not I anyway. I resent your attempt at portraying yourself as the victim. happy
wasn't speaking of you but of another, I don't feel I am a victim of anything, never have been, never will be

you should know that, this thing has been going on most of the day


Well point out who said you MUST accept the theory of evolution then. It wasn't me and it wasn't Billy. You had originally posed the question about transitional fossils and he was nice enough to offer you a couple websites to further explain how this occurred. If it was complete crap, no one would believe it at all and it would not be taught in public schools. So Im not sure who on this thread told you that you have to do anything.


Hmmm... interesting argument. If it weren't true - it wouldn't be taught in public schools.
If that were so - Christianity and the bible has over 300 yers of being taught in public schools.
Does that make it unequivically true?

I'll have to remember this one.


You obviously did not even bother to read this thread and instead isolated one post and felt you just had to insert something argumentative. I was explaining to Sharp that no one had told him he MUST accept the Theory of Evolution. We all know you wont even bother to understand the most basic of its components. It is for this reason, I dont enjoy discussing it with you any longer Its akin to ramming my head against a brick wall. It is taught in public schools with the presumption of it being a theory. Parents who are not not happy with this situation, always have the option of writing a note and having their children pulled from science class. I actually had this very incident occur with a friend because she had evangelical parents. It was horrible but I was 11 years old and nothing I could do about it.
let me try to re-phrase that then, it seems that some are bothered by the fact that some dont believe in it, just a choice, we all make them


Im not sure who was "bothered" exactly. You posed the question to begin with. That was part of the reason this thread went in the direction of human anthropogenesis. There is a distinct difference between a religious doctrine that demands some degree of faith and acceptance that "this happened" and a scientific theory which essentially is making the statement "this is ONE possibility that scientists have been able to formulate and reconstruct based on their research and unearthed physical findings.Take it or leave it."
and all I said was that I leave it, for those that want to take it, more power to them, it's not that big a deal to me, we all have our beliefs and make our choices, thats just mine or if "mine" is trying to take it personal as you accuse me of at time, the i'll use the word "some" or "others"

just wanted to be part of the discussion and share another viewpoint, seemed to bother some was all I meant, I try to always stress, My opinion, my thought on such and such, something along those lines. Never that "you have to believe me, or you have to believe this"


I never did that either. That is the point of contention. YOU INQUIRED as to the transitional fossils. Someone who is more knowledgeable of this particular point offered you a couple websites that would help increase your understanding of this key element in the theory. At NO time were your views (whatever they may be) attacked. I guess the lesson learned here is dont ask questions about a subject and then turn around and become hurt and angered once someone chooses to offer you information that might be helpful. There was no expectation that you would do anything with it. Yet another difference between a religion and a scientific theory.
ok, let me try again, the accuse me part, you made the statement that I take everything you say as personal or directed towards me, that was what I was referring to, maybe accuse was a bad choice of words,

Krimsa's photo
Sat 09/20/08 05:10 AM



The universe was created by Bill Gates on a Windows 95 pentium II computer with a 500mb HD and 256kb ram.
laugh what's up beach, good morningdrinker

I have documentation so everyone MUST believe me or will rot in Hell.flowerforyou


Well I've got a bible sir and thats ALL the documentation needed. I in fact have three of them because I travel cross country extensively and stay in many motels. happy

beachbum069's photo
Sat 09/20/08 05:14 AM




The universe was created by Bill Gates on a Windows 95 pentium II computer with a 500mb HD and 256kb ram.
laugh what's up beach, good morningdrinker

I have documentation so everyone MUST believe me or will rot in Hell.flowerforyou


Well I've got a bible sir and thats ALL the documentation needed. I in fact have three of them because I travel cross country extensively and stay in many motels. happy

I only have issues when I stay at Marriotts because they have those Mormon bibles-bastards.
No offense Tom.

SharpShooter10's photo
Sat 09/20/08 05:15 AM


since I don't accept it, maybe it does mean i'm saying they are wrong, but then again, thats just me, people that believe in it, i'm not trying to say they are wrong and this is just getting even more confusing trying to explain myselflaugh but it's an attempt.

lets just say we agree that we disagree and on that we can hopefully leave it, I'm tired anyway, really need to get some sleep, hate daylight, i'm kind of a night person


I understand you are attempting to not appear as confrontational. I can respect that. This is a topic that is very open to debate. My point was that this is not the thread for that to occur as there are many other threads that have addressed the subject matter. You always have the option of beginning a new thread if you want. You ALWAYS have the right to proclaim the Theory of Evolution as erroneous in some capacity. You would then be confronted by members who accept the theory and you would be asked to support your view and explain to us why you feel as you do. That is the nature of open communication. We are no longer living in the Middle Ages when people were murdered and thrown in dungeons for simply disagreeing with the church.
I believe there is already a topic on it if i'm not mistaken, I could be wrong, but even if you aren't, it seems at times that you get angry as well, it doesn't offend me in any way because these things tend to get heated at times. and both sides always try to support or share their view and it always, without fail ends up heated. I actually enjoy these topics, views, opinions and whatnot. wish they weren't so controversial but they are.

SharpShooter10's photo
Sat 09/20/08 05:17 AM
Edited by SharpShooter10 on Sat 09/20/08 05:22 AM





The universe was created by Bill Gates on a Windows 95 pentium II computer with a 500mb HD and 256kb ram.
laugh what's up beach, good morningdrinker

I have documentation so everyone MUST believe me or will rot in Hell.flowerforyou


Well I've got a bible sir and thats ALL the documentation needed. I in fact have three of them because I travel cross country extensively and stay in many motels. happy

I only have issues when I stay at Marriotts because they have those Mormon bibles-bastards.
No offense Tom.
none taken, not a mormon any more, non denominational, grew out of certain churches because my studies took me another direction

someone even told me I was not a Christian because I wasn't a member of the largest churches, believe it was the catholic church and church of england, the closest i get to the church of england would be the KJV. I have a non denominational church that I consider myself a member of even though it is in another state, thats where I tithe so guess I do belong to one,

Krimsa's photo
Sat 09/20/08 05:22 AM



since I don't accept it, maybe it does mean i'm saying they are wrong, but then again, thats just me, people that believe in it, i'm not trying to say they are wrong and this is just getting even more confusing trying to explain myselflaugh but it's an attempt.

lets just say we agree that we disagree and on that we can hopefully leave it, I'm tired anyway, really need to get some sleep, hate daylight, i'm kind of a night person


I understand you are attempting to not appear as confrontational. I can respect that. This is a topic that is very open to debate. My point was that this is not the thread for that to occur as there are many other threads that have addressed the subject matter. You always have the option of beginning a new thread if you want. You ALWAYS have the right to proclaim the Theory of Evolution as erroneous in some capacity. You would then be confronted by members who accept the theory and you would be asked to support your view and explain to us why you feel as you do. That is the nature of open communication. We are no longer living in the Middle Ages when people were murdered and thrown in dungeons for simply disagreeing with the church.
I believe there is already a topic on it if i'm not mistaken, I could be wrong, but even if you aren't, it seems at times that you get angry as well, it doesn't offend me in any way because these things tend to get heated at times. and both sides always try to support or share their view and it always, without fail ends up heated. I actually enjoy these topics, views, opinions and whatnot. wish they weren't so controversial but they are.



A thread about Creationism vs. The Theory of Evolution?? Are you kidding me? There are probably a few. Very often what takes place is what you are seeing on this thread. The OP will start off having some other reason to post a thread an inevitably, about half way through or sooner, someone mentions the Theory of Evolution and starts a big debate/argument. It happens quite often. :tongue:

Im am not, nor have I ever been angry and especially not on this thread.I do apologize if you felt that to be the case in some respect. If anything I have found it to be quite amusing. You were the one who seemed to feel that your beliefs (whatever those entail exactly) were being attacked simply because another member posted some information that YOU HAD REQUESTED. laugh laugh laugh

SharpShooter10's photo
Sat 09/20/08 05:29 AM




since I don't accept it, maybe it does mean i'm saying they are wrong, but then again, thats just me, people that believe in it, i'm not trying to say they are wrong and this is just getting even more confusing trying to explain myselflaugh but it's an attempt.

lets just say we agree that we disagree and on that we can hopefully leave it, I'm tired anyway, really need to get some sleep, hate daylight, i'm kind of a night person


I understand you are attempting to not appear as confrontational. I can respect that. This is a topic that is very open to debate. My point was that this is not the thread for that to occur as there are many other threads that have addressed the subject matter. You always have the option of beginning a new thread if you want. You ALWAYS have the right to proclaim the Theory of Evolution as erroneous in some capacity. You would then be confronted by members who accept the theory and you would be asked to support your view and explain to us why you feel as you do. That is the nature of open communication. We are no longer living in the Middle Ages when people were murdered and thrown in dungeons for simply disagreeing with the church.
I believe there is already a topic on it if i'm not mistaken, I could be wrong, but even if you aren't, it seems at times that you get angry as well, it doesn't offend me in any way because these things tend to get heated at times. and both sides always try to support or share their view and it always, without fail ends up heated. I actually enjoy these topics, views, opinions and whatnot. wish they weren't so controversial but they are.



A thread about Creationism vs. The Theory of Evolution?? Are you kidding me? There are probably a few. Very often what takes place is what you are seeing on this thread. The OP will start off having some other reason to post a thread an inevitably, about half way through or sooner, someone mentions the Theory of Evolution and starts a big debate/argument. It happens quite often. :tongue:

Im am not, nor have I ever been angry and especially not on this thread.I do apologize if you felt that to be the case in some respect. If anything I have found it to be quite amusing. You were the one who seemed to feel that your beliefs (whatever those entail exactly) were being attacked simply because another member posted some information that YOU HAD REQUESTED. laugh laugh laugh
nope, didn't feel attacked, hate it if that is how it seems, we all get taken the wrong way at times. and no apologies needed for me anyway, I do not have any hard feelings,

Peaceflowerforyou

Now we can try to put it to rest, how's that

Krimsa's photo
Sat 09/20/08 05:33 AM





since I don't accept it, maybe it does mean i'm saying they are wrong, but then again, thats just me, people that believe in it, i'm not trying to say they are wrong and this is just getting even more confusing trying to explain myselflaugh but it's an attempt.

lets just say we agree that we disagree and on that we can hopefully leave it, I'm tired anyway, really need to get some sleep, hate daylight, i'm kind of a night person


I understand you are attempting to not appear as confrontational. I can respect that. This is a topic that is very open to debate. My point was that this is not the thread for that to occur as there are many other threads that have addressed the subject matter. You always have the option of beginning a new thread if you want. You ALWAYS have the right to proclaim the Theory of Evolution as erroneous in some capacity. You would then be confronted by members who accept the theory and you would be asked to support your view and explain to us why you feel as you do. That is the nature of open communication. We are no longer living in the Middle Ages when people were murdered and thrown in dungeons for simply disagreeing with the church.
I believe there is already a topic on it if i'm not mistaken, I could be wrong, but even if you aren't, it seems at times that you get angry as well, it doesn't offend me in any way because these things tend to get heated at times. and both sides always try to support or share their view and it always, without fail ends up heated. I actually enjoy these topics, views, opinions and whatnot. wish they weren't so controversial but they are.



A thread about Creationism vs. The Theory of Evolution?? Are you kidding me? There are probably a few. Very often what takes place is what you are seeing on this thread. The OP will start off having some other reason to post a thread an inevitably, about half way through or sooner, someone mentions the Theory of Evolution and starts a big debate/argument. It happens quite often. :tongue:

Im am not, nor have I ever been angry and especially not on this thread.I do apologize if you felt that to be the case in some respect. If anything I have found it to be quite amusing. You were the one who seemed to feel that your beliefs (whatever those entail exactly) were being attacked simply because another member posted some information that YOU HAD REQUESTED. laugh laugh laugh
nope, didn't feel attacked, hate it if that is how it seems, we all get taken the wrong way at times. and no apologies needed for me anyway, I do not have any hard feelings,

Peaceflowerforyou

Now we can try to put it to rest, how's that


If you misunderstood me, then I would apologize. However that is not the case. You knew exactly what I was saying this entire time. Look, you dont entertain the theory of evolution nor are you interested in having a better understanding of it. That is absolutely your right. Never once were you attacked or was anyone angry at you.

feralcatlady's photo
Sat 09/20/08 06:19 AM

So far this thread has no food for thought. huh



It started off with a lot and has been going slowly downhill since...

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Krimsa's photo
Sat 09/20/08 06:22 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Sat 09/20/08 06:23 AM


So far this thread has no food for thought. huh



It started off with a lot and has been going slowly downhill since...

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(((((((quick)))))))


I have attempted twice now feral to sort of allow you to take this thread back over and redirect it in whatever course you will find fitting to navigate. As mentioned there is an abundance of Creationism vs. The Theory of Evolution threads so there is no reason to commandeer yet another. happy

feralcatlady's photo
Sat 09/20/08 06:30 AM








now don't get bent.....jmo opinion here....when you say critism is the food of wisdom.....I not only disagree but think that is negative.

Maybe it's just the way in which you write it...I don't know....I read and got negative. I wrote that I don't do negative or critism It's just not what life is about for me. Love, understanding, compassion, giving, that is what I am about.

Now if you were to write Positive begots postitive then I would say yea yea....but negative anything is just that.

I would be that person who would walk into a room and I say I will not stand for negative anything....I would walk away first because I find it an utter waste of time.


Again think positive and positive things happen...think from a place of nothing but love and that is all that happens......

And see here we go again.......no matter the context of how you mean it...Hitler...does that name bring positive or
negative....

I like this: I shall build a house of love, and care, and concern, and understanding, and compassion, and wisdom, but does not allow any response from others except who agrees with them, and base all hearing on this premise, it seems there is no true indication of anything, but rather soon hearing of only patial words, which would create "illusions" of whether such things as wished to build were indeed as successful.....

Don't agree with me that is fine......


And may if more lived by the above paragragh and love, care and compassion what a beautiful world this could be. It's like watching the news...I can know what's going on without watching it over and over and over.....

There is a difference between learning and being taught and being taught in a critical or filled with critism way. That is ugly no matter how you look at it. I also train animals but I don't teach with negative or critisism ..I train them out of love and respect and they want to please me and be part of my world...But trust me take that same animal and do it in a negative nasty way and that is exactly what kind of animal you will have. Also with my children never is negative or can't part of this household.


Definition of negative:

expressing or containing negation or denial: a negative reply to my request. lacking positive attributes (opposed to positive): a dull, lifeless, negative character. lacking in constructiveness, helpfulness, optimism, cooperativeness, or the like: a man of negative viewpoint.

I am sorry but this is no way to live or regard anything in life.






Constant unconditional praise, adulation, agreement and support can, in many cases, weaken one's defenses to the "real" world when not balanced with what all people contain (part negative & part positive). So much so that one slip into a life of complete denial, expecting all to agree and co-sign... OR ELSE.

Then one begins to equate love with agreement... "If you loved me, you'd agree (no matter what)... and since you disagree, you don't". This is how a child thinks... I know - I've been there. It's a painful, but necessary shift when someone finally comes along and loves enough to speak their own truth... no matter how it will be received.





Are you new.....why the heck would anyone want to live in a negative...there is enough of that all around us. Again please try and understand this. I am a positive person this doesn't mean that negative or "bad" things don't happen..They do on a daily basis...you deal and they then become part of your past. But the constant negative that are in this threads is so mudane that it really makes me almost want to hurl.

No one has to agree with anything but it also imo to come in and take something and make it now so dreary is just patetic. When I wrote this thread the first sentence was how others perceive Christians.......The second sentence was how we perceive ourselves and since that is the case to enjoy the dance. Now it turned all negative and once again the whole fun of the thread is lost on all the negative nelly's.....

Speak your own truths as I do..then let people take away from it as they wish....I am all for that.....


No one said anything about "constant" negative. This was your interpretation, Feral. I would venture to say that the "constant" focusing on only positive may indicate a fear of one's own denied negative.

This poster has no wish to live in "mundane" negativity. It has simply been experienced that running from one's own negative creates FAR more negativity and a life way out of balance. We ALL contain both sides of the coin...

Until one stops running, admits the negative and takes full responsibility, one can not truly be free (kind of like how confession works). Until this moment is passed thru, more negativity builds like a clogged artery.

Does prefacing your post with, this poster being "new" suggest that what has been shared is any less valid?



lol lol lol I am sorry and get to know me more and you will see how soooooo unture that is. How can someone fear ones owned negative. I am a POSITIVE PERSON PERIOD. I don't deny the negative I just don't let it in. So hmmmm you think to yourself what does that do? It makes all those around me more positive........and this is solid because I hear it all the time.

OMG you hysterical I can't even believe your ramblings that for some warped reason you could ever think negative is ever a good or positive thing....it is sooooooo not. If you don't let negative in.....then it can't do jack diddly now can it. It's not that what you say is any less valid it's just imo of course......giggle....stupid.


your post just declared you don't let negative in, then turn and call anothers perception as stupid......do you not hear your own words

teach animals and kids having no negatives in anything, then call others stupid, lol......

are you a patholgical liar dear feral?

my daughters are 6 and 11, and have more wisdom than to think any other human percpetion is as stupid........

please dear one......

it is most obvious that the negatives you so wish to keep out, are others that have more wisdom than yourself, and believe and have knowing of things that such limtied perceptions can never see, and indeed the negaitves are coming from within, not from the outside, from thoughts of yourself as most wise, as indicated by all your own words, and you just have no sight, that seeing and believing another is as stupid, is as NEGATIVE, and to perpetuate NEGATIVE, such NEGATIVE as extended to all those whom post any other perception different than yourself, putting them down as if they are stupide or less equal, but then indeed, it is not missed, they are believed to be of less value than yourself in all ways.......

stupidity cannot be seen unless anything peer stupidly thru eyes that see oneself as having greater wisdom than all others.....




You are so wrong.......and hey if you want or anyone wants negative in their lives...then I say have fun with it...But to assume that I can't live my life just fine and dandy without adding the negatives is just to me stupid.....I was not referring to her being stupid just imo to let negative in is stupid...and again if you don't like it...oh well to bad it's how I feel......


Never did this poster mention anything about "letting negative in". What was shared was taken completely out of context and clumsily inverted to make it appear as though this poster was completely off the mark and "stupid"...

Perhaps another attempt to spell out the post's actual meaning.

Here goes...

Think of it a personal experience...

Something is pointed out to you about yourself to which you object VERY strongly (something really hard to hear about yourself). A strong objection is usually a fairly decent indication that there must be some truth to what the person has stated about you...

Or else you wouldn't be so moved...

If there was no truth to it, you'd probably not react and just shrug it off.

So, when this other person points something out to you that is hard to hear and you notice your own strong reaction, you pause...

You think to yourself:

(Hmmmm... I'm certainly getting fired up about what this guy is saying. Let me step back and look at this. There just may be some truth in what he's saying...

Damn!!!

There could be...

Yes...

I DO do this and have been doing this and, although I feel like a piece of poop for doing it, at least I can finally admit it. Now what? I feel stupid, yet relieved. Now I can turn the page.)

No longer denying your own "wrong", you can now own what you've been doing, see it's full impact, take total responsibility for your part, correct it and MOVE ON.

No more walking around trying to pretend you're perfect, yet feeling deep down like crap because, in your heart you know you've not been.

No more lying to yourself...

How liberating!

Now, how does this have anything to do with letting negative in?


If I ever post something and then can go back and reflect on what the poster said....and think....hmmmmmmm ok I would be the first one to admit and either apologize or point out where I was wrong or that I like what they said. But not in this case....sorry and if you don't like that...oh well...thats your gig.

I am far from perfect and never claimed to me. And I always always will look at a glass half full instead of half empty. Go and take a look at the the post where the negative was first brought in and then get a clue. This OP was to show how others perceive Christians and how we perceive ourselves. It had nothing to do with anything negative...because again people are entitled to think we are one way......and then get to know us and see it in a whole new light...

Example...people perceptions of me were this staunch unbending, unyeilding Christian. I was called out for making a comment on a sex thread...I was like OMG you can't be for real. There are many layers to me other then just being "a christian." Well my friend....yep not even close to same beleifs but a friend whom I respect greatly also called me out on it. I said yea people I also have a stipper pole in my living but does that make me a bad Christian. Heck no it makes me human and as such....I would never claim to be perfect far from it. And I am willing to learn when it's not something as david put out there that made no sense either to the thread or to the original OP.

SharpShooter10's photo
Sat 09/20/08 06:41 AM






since I don't accept it, maybe it does mean i'm saying they are wrong, but then again, thats just me, people that believe in it, i'm not trying to say they are wrong and this is just getting even more confusing trying to explain myselflaugh but it's an attempt.

lets just say we agree that we disagree and on that we can hopefully leave it, I'm tired anyway, really need to get some sleep, hate daylight, i'm kind of a night person


I understand you are attempting to not appear as confrontational. I can respect that. This is a topic that is very open to debate. My point was that this is not the thread for that to occur as there are many other threads that have addressed the subject matter. You always have the option of beginning a new thread if you want. You ALWAYS have the right to proclaim the Theory of Evolution as erroneous in some capacity. You would then be confronted by members who accept the theory and you would be asked to support your view and explain to us why you feel as you do. That is the nature of open communication. We are no longer living in the Middle Ages when people were murdered and thrown in dungeons for simply disagreeing with the church.
I believe there is already a topic on it if i'm not mistaken, I could be wrong, but even if you aren't, it seems at times that you get angry as well, it doesn't offend me in any way because these things tend to get heated at times. and both sides always try to support or share their view and it always, without fail ends up heated. I actually enjoy these topics, views, opinions and whatnot. wish they weren't so controversial but they are.



A thread about Creationism vs. The Theory of Evolution?? Are you kidding me? There are probably a few. Very often what takes place is what you are seeing on this thread. The OP will start off having some other reason to post a thread an inevitably, about half way through or sooner, someone mentions the Theory of Evolution and starts a big debate/argument. It happens quite often. :tongue:

Im am not, nor have I ever been angry and especially not on this thread.I do apologize if you felt that to be the case in some respect. If anything I have found it to be quite amusing. You were the one who seemed to feel that your beliefs (whatever those entail exactly) were being attacked simply because another member posted some information that YOU HAD REQUESTED. laugh laugh laugh
nope, didn't feel attacked, hate it if that is how it seems, we all get taken the wrong way at times. and no apologies needed for me anyway, I do not have any hard feelings,

Peaceflowerforyou

Now we can try to put it to rest, how's that


If you misunderstood me, then I would apologize. However that is not the case. You knew exactly what I was saying this entire time. Look, you dont entertain the theory of evolution nor are you interested in having a better understanding of it. That is absolutely your right. Never once were you attacked or was anyone angry at you.
I never said that, where are we missing each other at herelaugh the less confrontational I try to be the more it seems that it is getting that way, would it be better if I just cut loose and argued, don't think we would get anywhere that way either. and honestly, things you say as it seems I do as well are evidently confusing

SharpShooter10's photo
Sat 09/20/08 06:43 AM




since I don't accept it, maybe it does mean i'm saying they are wrong, but then again, thats just me, people that believe in it, i'm not trying to say they are wrong and this is just getting even more confusing trying to explain myselflaugh but it's an attempt.

lets just say we agree that we disagree and on that we can hopefully leave it, I'm tired anyway, really need to get some sleep, hate daylight, i'm kind of a night person


I understand you are attempting to not appear as confrontational. I can respect that. This is a topic that is very open to debate. My point was that this is not the thread for that to occur as there are many other threads that have addressed the subject matter. You always have the option of beginning a new thread if you want. You ALWAYS have the right to proclaim the Theory of Evolution as erroneous in some capacity. You would then be confronted by members who accept the theory and you would be asked to support your view and explain to us why you feel as you do. That is the nature of open communication. We are no longer living in the Middle Ages when people were murdered and thrown in dungeons for simply disagreeing with the church.
I believe there is already a topic on it if i'm not mistaken, I could be wrong, but even if you aren't, it seems at times that you get angry as well, it doesn't offend me in any way because these things tend to get heated at times. and both sides always try to support or share their view and it always, without fail ends up heated. I actually enjoy these topics, views, opinions and whatnot. wish they weren't so controversial but they are.



A thread about Creationism vs. The Theory of Evolution?? Are you kidding me? There are probably a few. Very often what takes place is what you are seeing on this thread. The OP will start off having some other reason to post a thread an inevitably, about half way through or sooner, someone mentions the Theory of Evolution and starts a big debate/argument. It happens quite often. :tongue:

Im am not, nor have I ever been angry and especially not on this thread.I do apologize if you felt that to be the case in some respect. If anything I have found it to be quite amusing. You were the one who seemed to feel that your beliefs (whatever those entail exactly) were being attacked simply because another member posted some information that YOU HAD REQUESTED. laugh laugh laugh
creation vs evolution, there is now another, happy now, we can leave it alone here:smile:

SharpShooter10's photo
Sat 09/20/08 06:44 AM






since I don't accept it, maybe it does mean i'm saying they are wrong, but then again, thats just me, people that believe in it, i'm not trying to say they are wrong and this is just getting even more confusing trying to explain myselflaugh but it's an attempt.

lets just say we agree that we disagree and on that we can hopefully leave it, I'm tired anyway, really need to get some sleep, hate daylight, i'm kind of a night person


I understand you are attempting to not appear as confrontational. I can respect that. This is a topic that is very open to debate. My point was that this is not the thread for that to occur as there are many other threads that have addressed the subject matter. You always have the option of beginning a new thread if you want. You ALWAYS have the right to proclaim the Theory of Evolution as erroneous in some capacity. You would then be confronted by members who accept the theory and you would be asked to support your view and explain to us why you feel as you do. That is the nature of open communication. We are no longer living in the Middle Ages when people were murdered and thrown in dungeons for simply disagreeing with the church.
I believe there is already a topic on it if i'm not mistaken, I could be wrong, but even if you aren't, it seems at times that you get angry as well, it doesn't offend me in any way because these things tend to get heated at times. and both sides always try to support or share their view and it always, without fail ends up heated. I actually enjoy these topics, views, opinions and whatnot. wish they weren't so controversial but they are.



A thread about Creationism vs. The Theory of Evolution?? Are you kidding me? There are probably a few. Very often what takes place is what you are seeing on this thread. The OP will start off having some other reason to post a thread an inevitably, about half way through or sooner, someone mentions the Theory of Evolution and starts a big debate/argument. It happens quite often. :tongue:

Im am not, nor have I ever been angry and especially not on this thread.I do apologize if you felt that to be the case in some respect. If anything I have found it to be quite amusing. You were the one who seemed to feel that your beliefs (whatever those entail exactly) were being attacked simply because another member posted some information that YOU HAD REQUESTED. laugh laugh laugh
nope, didn't feel attacked, hate it if that is how it seems, we all get taken the wrong way at times. and no apologies needed for me anyway, I do not have any hard feelings,

Peaceflowerforyou

Now we can try to put it to rest, how's that


If you misunderstood me, then I would apologize. However that is not the case. You knew exactly what I was saying this entire time. Look, you dont entertain the theory of evolution nor are you interested in having a better understanding of it. That is absolutely your right. Never once were you attacked or was anyone angry at you.
does seem like you don't want to let it go, i'm trying to

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Sat 09/20/08 06:47 AM







since I don't accept it, maybe it does mean i'm saying they are wrong, but then again, thats just me, people that believe in it, i'm not trying to say they are wrong and this is just getting even more confusing trying to explain myselflaugh but it's an attempt.

lets just say we agree that we disagree and on that we can hopefully leave it, I'm tired anyway, really need to get some sleep, hate daylight, i'm kind of a night person


I understand you are attempting to not appear as confrontational. I can respect that. This is a topic that is very open to debate. My point was that this is not the thread for that to occur as there are many other threads that have addressed the subject matter. You always have the option of beginning a new thread if you want. You ALWAYS have the right to proclaim the Theory of Evolution as erroneous in some capacity. You would then be confronted by members who accept the theory and you would be asked to support your view and explain to us why you feel as you do. That is the nature of open communication. We are no longer living in the Middle Ages when people were murdered and thrown in dungeons for simply disagreeing with the church.
I believe there is already a topic on it if i'm not mistaken, I could be wrong, but even if you aren't, it seems at times that you get angry as well, it doesn't offend me in any way because these things tend to get heated at times. and both sides always try to support or share their view and it always, without fail ends up heated. I actually enjoy these topics, views, opinions and whatnot. wish they weren't so controversial but they are.



A thread about Creationism vs. The Theory of Evolution?? Are you kidding me? There are probably a few. Very often what takes place is what you are seeing on this thread. The OP will start off having some other reason to post a thread an inevitably, about half way through or sooner, someone mentions the Theory of Evolution and starts a big debate/argument. It happens quite often. :tongue:

Im am not, nor have I ever been angry and especially not on this thread.I do apologize if you felt that to be the case in some respect. If anything I have found it to be quite amusing. You were the one who seemed to feel that your beliefs (whatever those entail exactly) were being attacked simply because another member posted some information that YOU HAD REQUESTED. laugh laugh laugh
nope, didn't feel attacked, hate it if that is how it seems, we all get taken the wrong way at times. and no apologies needed for me anyway, I do not have any hard feelings,

Peaceflowerforyou

Now we can try to put it to rest, how's that


If you misunderstood me, then I would apologize. However that is not the case. You knew exactly what I was saying this entire time. Look, you dont entertain the theory of evolution nor are you interested in having a better understanding of it. That is absolutely your right. Never once were you attacked or was anyone angry at you.
I never said that, where are we missing each other at herelaugh the less confrontational I try to be the more it seems that it is getting that way, would it be better if I just cut loose and argued, don't think we would get anywhere that way either. and honestly, things you say as it seems I do as well are evidently confusing


What? That has been your most confusing assertion yet I do believe. If you would prefer to "confront" me about some issue(s), whatever those may be, please do not hesitate to do so. Other than that my perception of events was that you made an overgeneralized statement as it related to transitional fossils and Billy replied back with a very polite post that offered you some additional materials to investigate if you were so inclined. The next response out of you seemed to indicate that the folks participating in this thread that choose to accept the theory of evolution are in some way angry with you. You then insisted on defending this position repeatedly. Feel free to correct me any time you want.

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Sat 09/20/08 06:50 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Sat 09/20/08 06:50 AM







since I don't accept it, maybe it does mean i'm saying they are wrong, but then again, thats just me, people that believe in it, i'm not trying to say they are wrong and this is just getting even more confusing trying to explain myselflaugh but it's an attempt.

lets just say we agree that we disagree and on that we can hopefully leave it, I'm tired anyway, really need to get some sleep, hate daylight, i'm kind of a night person


I understand you are attempting to not appear as confrontational. I can respect that. This is a topic that is very open to debate. My point was that this is not the thread for that to occur as there are many other threads that have addressed the subject matter. You always have the option of beginning a new thread if you want. You ALWAYS have the right to proclaim the Theory of Evolution as erroneous in some capacity. You would then be confronted by members who accept the theory and you would be asked to support your view and explain to us why you feel as you do. That is the nature of open communication. We are no longer living in the Middle Ages when people were murdered and thrown in dungeons for simply disagreeing with the church.
I believe there is already a topic on it if i'm not mistaken, I could be wrong, but even if you aren't, it seems at times that you get angry as well, it doesn't offend me in any way because these things tend to get heated at times. and both sides always try to support or share their view and it always, without fail ends up heated. I actually enjoy these topics, views, opinions and whatnot. wish they weren't so controversial but they are.



A thread about Creationism vs. The Theory of Evolution?? Are you kidding me? There are probably a few. Very often what takes place is what you are seeing on this thread. The OP will start off having some other reason to post a thread an inevitably, about half way through or sooner, someone mentions the Theory of Evolution and starts a big debate/argument. It happens quite often. :tongue:

Im am not, nor have I ever been angry and especially not on this thread.I do apologize if you felt that to be the case in some respect. If anything I have found it to be quite amusing. You were the one who seemed to feel that your beliefs (whatever those entail exactly) were being attacked simply because another member posted some information that YOU HAD REQUESTED. laugh laugh laugh
nope, didn't feel attacked, hate it if that is how it seems, we all get taken the wrong way at times. and no apologies needed for me anyway, I do not have any hard feelings,

Peaceflowerforyou

Now we can try to put it to rest, how's that


If you misunderstood me, then I would apologize. However that is not the case. You knew exactly what I was saying this entire time. Look, you dont entertain the theory of evolution nor are you interested in having a better understanding of it. That is absolutely your right. Never once were you attacked or was anyone angry at you.
does seem like you don't want to let it go, i'm trying to


My dear sir, I attempted to give the floor back to feral and let this dog lie about 3-5 different times here. Is it not possible for you to let it go perhaps? :tongue:

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Sat 09/20/08 06:50 AM






since I don't accept it, maybe it does mean i'm saying they are wrong, but then again, thats just me, people that believe in it, i'm not trying to say they are wrong and this is just getting even more confusing trying to explain myselflaugh but it's an attempt.

lets just say we agree that we disagree and on that we can hopefully leave it, I'm tired anyway, really need to get some sleep, hate daylight, i'm kind of a night person


I understand you are attempting to not appear as confrontational. I can respect that. This is a topic that is very open to debate. My point was that this is not the thread for that to occur as there are many other threads that have addressed the subject matter. You always have the option of beginning a new thread if you want. You ALWAYS have the right to proclaim the Theory of Evolution as erroneous in some capacity. You would then be confronted by members who accept the theory and you would be asked to support your view and explain to us why you feel as you do. That is the nature of open communication. We are no longer living in the Middle Ages when people were murdered and thrown in dungeons for simply disagreeing with the church.
I believe there is already a topic on it if i'm not mistaken, I could be wrong, but even if you aren't, it seems at times that you get angry as well, it doesn't offend me in any way because these things tend to get heated at times. and both sides always try to support or share their view and it always, without fail ends up heated. I actually enjoy these topics, views, opinions and whatnot. wish they weren't so controversial but they are.



A thread about Creationism vs. The Theory of Evolution?? Are you kidding me? There are probably a few. Very often what takes place is what you are seeing on this thread. The OP will start off having some other reason to post a thread an inevitably, about half way through or sooner, someone mentions the Theory of Evolution and starts a big debate/argument. It happens quite often. :tongue:

Im am not, nor have I ever been angry and especially not on this thread.I do apologize if you felt that to be the case in some respect. If anything I have found it to be quite amusing. You were the one who seemed to feel that your beliefs (whatever those entail exactly) were being attacked simply because another member posted some information that YOU HAD REQUESTED. laugh laugh laugh
nope, didn't feel attacked, hate it if that is how it seems, we all get taken the wrong way at times. and no apologies needed for me anyway, I do not have any hard feelings,

Peaceflowerforyou

Now we can try to put it to rest, how's that


If you misunderstood me, then I would apologize. However that is not the case. You knew exactly what I was saying this entire time. Look, you dont entertain the theory of evolution nor are you interested in having a better understanding of it. That is absolutely your right. Never once were you attacked or was anyone angry at you.
it was force fed to me in school, just like people don't want to be force fed the bible, I've studied, read, checked out the links, what more can I do, you say i'm obviously not interested in having a better understanding, what else can I do, I have been taught, I have read, I have viewed, I still don't, can't , wont whatever don't accept it, and again, that is me, I dont care if others believe it , nothing I say or anyone else will convince them as well, Nothing as of yet that they say has convinced me. whats the problem, or is there one and we just like going at it, I dont know but it's starting to get boring now, i'm trying to let it go, but I keep reading stuff we are saying and keep wanting to try to make my position or whatever clearer.

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Sat 09/20/08 06:52 AM



So far this thread has no food for thought. huh



It started off with a lot and has been going slowly downhill since...

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(((((((quick)))))))


I have attempted twice now feral to sort of allow you to take this thread back over and redirect it in whatever course you will find fitting to navigate. As mentioned there is an abundance of Creationism vs. The Theory of Evolution threads so there is no reason to commandeer yet another. happy
and the more we try to stop discussing it the more it gets discussed, Krimsa, if you just want to have the last word, fine, you can have it,

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