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Edited by
MorningSong
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Jeannie....Point I was trying to make earlier ,is....everything you are talking about, along with everything else discussed earlier ....can already be found in the Word of God. If you’re referring to the Bible, most of the things concerning wisdom and moral values can already be found in other sources that predate biblical writings as well. So I’m not sure what you mean when you say they can already be found in the ‘Word of God’. They can already be found in a lot of places. There are a lot of ancient writings, both religious and philosophical that suggest that we may be creating our experiences and physical reality via our own thoughts. People often try to pass the Bible off as containing unique wisdom or being the forerunner in providing these ideas, but there is no wisdom in the Bible that is unique to the Bible. That’s a fallacy that many people are led to believe that simply isn’t true. In fact the Bible can’t even lay claim to being unique in its religious claims of divinity and divine intervention. Almost everything the Bible claims in regard to divinity had already been claimed by other mythologies and religions previously. The Bible has nothing unique to offer in wisdom or divinity that hasn’t already been offered by other folklore or myths previously,… http://www.pocm.info/index.html So I don’t understand why you say that the ‘word of God’ already supports what Jeanniebean is saying. So do a lot of other ancient belief systems and philosophies. Everything points to Jeanniebean! She must be right!  Abra...still......God ORIGINATED EVERYTHING. Ok......for instance....let's take the law of gravity . So ...here we have man... who one day discovered the law of gravity .....but still...where does gravity originally come from? WHO originated gravity.... And then we have Jeannie ...who discovered the Law of Attraction...  So now.... where did the law of attraction, law of gravity, law of sciene, law of physics, ....along with every other law in the universe..come from, first? And No..it was not from Jeannie.... (Hope You know I am just kidding around with you, Jeannie   ) Point is.... God Created it ALL ...it ALL started with God...nothing new under the Son......  And Man is still discovering what God already made from scratch in the first place....... and THANK GOD , that man is discovering things about the different laws, etc..... I mean....God also gave us a BRAIN to USE..Amen? BUT ...BUT ..BUT.... when we DO discover something.....and use our brain and creative abilities ...and learn to work successfully with the laws already given ... WHO are we going to give the CREDIT and GLORY to? US??? Creation....or the Different Laws in Effect? Or to GOD...the Creator of it ALL........  |
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Abra...still......God ORIGINATED EVERYTHING. You won't get any argument out of me on that one. I just don't believe that ancient Mediterranean mythology has anything to do with God. I believe the Indians who referred to God as Wankan Tanka probably had a picture that was much closer to what God must really be like. You keep insisting that some regional folklore is God. If that’s your God more power to you! I personally believe God is much bigger than that tiny Middle Eastern picture. Like Carl Sagan once said, “The stage is far too large for the biblical drama” Of course he was referring to the entire universe, but I think the same statement even holds true just for planet Earth. Even the earth itself is far too large a stage for the biblical drama. The biblical drama is focused on the middle east, and one nation too boot. It suggest that God has a choose, people and a chosen nation. I don’t believe that the creator of this wonderful universe would play favorites like that. The stage is far too big for the drama that is described in that local regional folklore. When you speak of God you speak of that picture only, and believing in that doctrine as specifically being the word of God. To me that’s just not “God”. Our definitions of the very word “God” are totally different. To me, God is the creator of this universe. To you, God is the inspirational author of a particular ancient doctrine. We’re never going to see eye-to-eye because we use the word “God” to mean entirely differnet things. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 04/21/08 01:46 AM
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Jeannie........gonna throw a wrench into your logical thinking about the law of attraction ...along with the other laws....
I am doing this to allow you to see ,that not everything in this universe can be explained away by laws or logic, or what have you. Although God Created it all, God is also above it all.....His ways are higher than our ways.....and that means simply..... God is even above the very laws He created . Let's take the law of gravity for instance. What goes up must come down.....right? But .. when Jesus ressurrected, He rose up into Heaven, as his diciples watched.... And he said that we too, shall do as He did..and more. Defies the laws of gravity, right? This is Just a small example here...but this in itself, proves that there is more than a logical explanation to life. Again. God is above logic...God is above all.... And by applying ONLY logic in trying to understand God and the things of God , you are only limiting yourself, from recieving the FULLER and DEEPER understanding and meaning of what God and His creation are all about.
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when we DO discover something.....and use our brain and creative abilities ...and learn to work successfully with the laws already given ... WHO are we going to give the CREDIT and GLORY to? US??? Creation....or the Different Laws in Effect? Or to GOD...the Creator of it ALL........drinker Well I give credit where Credit is due. That is what GRATITUDE is all about.  When I feel thankful and when I express gratitude it goes out to whatever or whomever played any kind of part in the thing I am grateful for. That, in the view of a pantheist, is God. But it also goes out to all the individuals who work for and within the body of God. I am grateful for the Law of Attraction, which is the Creative principle, and I am grateful for the intelligent prime source that is GOD who designs the laws. So I don't see what your problem is MorningSong, ~except that I am not a Christian and I do not follow your specific doctrine. You KNOW I am NOT a Christian. And yet you continue to imply that I have no God and that I don't give any credit to God. You don't have any idea what your are talking about in this respect because you only feel that your concept of God is right and mine is wrong. Christian's don't own God. They (and you) believe that Jesus is God. I don't. They believe they are right. I understand this. I accept this. I just don't agree with it. They (and you) would like to believe that your's is the only truth and the only way to know God. You seem to be uncomfortable if anyone else has a relationship with God or the law of attraction. You don't own the law of attraction either. It is for EVERYBODY. GOD IS FOR EVERBODY TOO. Not just Christians. JB |
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Jeannie........gonna throw a wrench into your logical thinking about the law of attraction ...along with the other laws.... I am doing this to allow you to see ,that not everything in this universe can be explained away by laws or logic, or what have you. Although God Created it all, God is also above it all.....His ways are higher than our ways.....and that means simply..... God is even above the very laws He created . Let's take the law of gravity for instance. What goes up must come down.....right? But .. when Jesus ressurrected, He rose up into Heaven, as his diciples watched.... And he said that we too, shall do as He did..and more. Defies the laws of gravity, right? This is Just a small example here...but this in itself, proves that there is more than a logical explanation to life. Again. God is above logic...God is above all.... And by applying ONLY logic in trying to understand God and the things of God , you are only limiting yourself, from recieving the FULLER and DEEPER understanding and meaning of what God and His creation are all about. Not much of a wrench because I agree with everything you said. This thread is not about an attempt to "understand God." It is about the creative principle and the Law of Attraction. Thanks to Abracadabra, I have recently gained a better understanding of logic. Logic begins with a premise. I use logic all the time within my premise. So do you. But ours is not the same logic and neither logic is the same as logic within anyone else's premise. Therefore there are as many different kinds of logic as there are beliefs. Is God above everything? Well since I don't think in terms of time and space, up and down are illogical when talking about God, and neither are above and below. However I do understand, within your logic, what you mean by that. So God is not "above," "below" or "behind" everything. God is not even "within" or "without" everything. God is the prime source of everything and can be said to be everywhere. (Omnipresent is, I guess, what you call it. Everywhere. Inside, outside, above, below, behind, in front of, etc. Everywhere. Everything. Pantheism.  |
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Walks in...
 Looks around and likes the people he sees... Thinks for a minute about this logic thing mentioned... Takes a deep breath... Grins at his own incessant need to speak... Decides to be different this time... Nods... Says 'hi' to everyone... Walks back out... Still grinning... Peace
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Thanks for stopping by.
I have to say that after spending time in this thread and discussing things with the people here I got the feeling that I really had been in a room chatting it up, and I feel I am truly getting to know you people as if you were right here in my house. I am beginning to get a feeling for the people I discuss things with as if we are talking person to person. Now I understand what is meant by: "I like my computer, all my friends are in there." |
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Hey Jeannie,
Ya know, because of my shortness at times, one may suspect that I are not very friendly... that's just not the case... Analytical... yup! Too much for my own good sometimes... |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 04/21/08 03:45 PM
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Hey Jeannie, Ya know, because of my shortness at times, one may suspect that I are not very friendly... that's just not the case... Analytical... yup! Too much for my own good sometimes... I could give you my honest impression of you if you can handle it. 1.Argumentative and firmly set in your opinions. 2.Stealthily cautious and guarded in stating them freely and uncensored. 3.Suggestive and Ambiguous with words. 4. Tries to be nice but would sometimes like to be the opposite. (Nasty) 5. Does have a temper, works hard at keeping it under control. Probably likes to occasionally put his fist through a wall, then smiles and plays nice. JB |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 04/21/08 04:01 PM
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Impressions
For some reason I get impressions of people's physical energy and body type from talking to them in these threads and I have no idea if my impressions are accurate. I will give you my impressions and would appreciate it if you will tell me if I am accurate. Creative: I visualize him as taller than me. I am 5"7". I see him as tall but not too tall. I will guess 6 feet or 6"1". He is an alert fellow, strong and quick in his movements. He is not what I would call "laid back." or "easy going." I would describe him as nervous compared to my energy. He can't sit still for too long. He is confident in doing what he does best. I have no clue what that is, but he is very confident and he excels at it. How did I do? JB WOW I just looked at Creative's profile and it says he is 7' I was right about him being tall, but I was afraid to guess that he was that tall! Whew! |
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I don't understand where these laws come from. I understand the law of gravity etc, but where does the law of karma or the law of attraction come from?
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CS can't really be taller then 7 ft can he? |
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Impressions For some reason I get impressions of people's physical energy and body type from talking to them in these threads and I have no idea if my impressions are accurate. I will give you my impressions and would appreciate it if you will tell me if I am accurate. Creative: I visualize him as taller than me. I am 5"7". I see him as tall but not too tall. I will guess 6 feet or 6"1". He is an alert fellow, strong and quick in his movements. He is not what I would call "laid back." or "easy going." I would describe him as nervous compared to my energy. He can't sit still for too long. He is confident in doing what he does best. I have no clue what that is, but he is very confident and he excels at it. How did I do? JB WOW I just looked at Creative's profile and it says he is 7' I was right about him being tall, but I was afraid to guess that he was that tall! Whew! Actually he is just under 6' ... and is motivated and driven ... his own worst critic and a desire for constant improvement. Thoughtful, contemplative, intelligent, an artist, a craftsman, playful, quick witted, accepting, nature lover, poetic ... and pretty laid back actually ...
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Considering what you have read of me it does not surprise me that you would have said some of those things...
If you would like a more complete picture of words by which to base your assessment click on the number itself beneath my avatar pic, then go back in time some and read some of my postings on other topics, then come back and see me later...
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Awww...
Hiya Artsy... I woke up from a nap, and responded at the same time you were... What's goin' on rabbit? The 7' Ugandan giant!!
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Awww... Hiya Artsy... I woke up from a nap, and responded at the same time you were... What's goin' on rabbit? The 7' Ugandan giant!! (((((Creativeone))))) 
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Edited by
yzrabbit1
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Mon 04/21/08 05:57 PM
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Awww... Hiya Artsy... I woke up from a nap, and responded at the same time you were... What's goin' on rabbit? The 7' Ugandan giant!! The 7' Ugandan giant! It is so funny you would say that. When I was a kid the only side show booth I ever went into was this guy that was supposed to be a giant. I pay my money walk in and the room is actually very small from ceiling to floor. Here is this very Tall Black Man sitting in a small chair to make it look like he is even taller. I bet I wasn't any more then 7 or 8. He said hi to me and he had an accent that I had never heard before. I said hi and then I couldn't really think of anything to say. I was slowly coming to the realization that I couldn't just stare at this guy like he was a mummy or something. I had definitely payed for the worst side show I could have picked. I just said good bye and left. Your little phrase brought it all streaming back |
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Edited by
creativesoul
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Mon 04/21/08 06:24 PM
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rabbit:
Perception is reality... Those side shows at the carnivals and fairs are great... shrunken heads... bearded ladies... midgets... quite a treat after walking through the funhouse mirrors... JB: I will give you an "A" for effort... and a "U" for unrecognizable. You have given many clues about yourself I believe, however I try not to assume anything, so... I live and let live... MMMmmmmuuuah!!!! EDIT: I will come back later and analyze your comments on me...
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Actually he is just under 6' ... and is motivated and driven ... his own worst critic and a desire for constant improvement. Thoughtful, contemplative, intelligent, an artist, a craftsman, playful, quick witted, accepting, nature lover, poetic ... and pretty laid back actually ... Then I was closer to right about his height. (Why would he put 7' in his profile?) As for reading his past posts, I did not want to do that because I wanted to describe the impression I was getting during this latest conversation and how he looked in that imaginary room. I imagine him more of a craftsman than an artist, more physically active than laid back, more intellectual thinking than contemplative. More tolerant and controlled than accepting. JB |
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yzrabbit
Imaginary impression" I have not looked at your profile lately, but I imagine you to be shorter than Creative, maybe about 5'7'. The first impression of you would be that you are a quiet guy. But get to know you and you are a teaser with sense of humor. Your picture has a mischievous grin so perhaps that aids in my impression. You are smarter than the average dude, very practical, and studious. A geek perhaps, but a cool geek. That's just a first impression. JB |
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