Topic: Attraction Experiments
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Fri 04/18/08 02:45 PM


If you want something to happen, and think about it all the time, you focus on it.. how is that not wanting to change something?


You could think of it that way if what you want to happen is different from what is already happening.

Most people just keep doing the same old thing and keep creating the same thing over and over.

They are in a rut perhaps.

If you want to change things, you have to think and do things differently.

JB




Agreed.... so what is the disagreement then with what I said?

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Fri 04/18/08 02:52 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 04/18/08 03:30 PM



If you want something to happen, and think about it all the time, you focus on it.. how is that not wanting to change something?


You could think of it that way if what you want to happen is different from what is already happening.

Most people just keep doing the same old thing and keep creating the same thing over and over.

They are in a rut perhaps.

If you want to change things, you have to think and do things differently.

JB




Agreed.... so what is the disagreement then with what I said?


I guess the only thing was that my focus is more on manifesting what you want more than simply "changing things."

Anything you manifest that is new could be considered a "change"
So I guess there is no real disagreement.

Unless you change things to something you don't want... oops you have to try again then.

JB

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Fri 04/18/08 02:52 PM
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Fri 04/18/08 03:38 PM


If you think about things, you notice them. There is nothing magical about them.

When I was pregnant, I saw pregnant people everywhere. When I am hungry, I see food everywhere. Is that magic?


There is no such thing as magic. I have never claimed that any of this is magic.

It all pure science. Science that cannot be proven, but science just the same.

JB


:wink:
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
A.C. Clarke

Love your work JB!

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Fri 04/18/08 04:06 PM

Law of Attraction Experiment ~~#3

Although most of the smaller things I attracted or ‘manifested’ from the universe took about three days (or less) to arrive, there are some things that did take longer.

Depending on the amount of ‘thought’ resistance encountered and the amount of energy, intention and work put into them, some things do take longer to arrive; but arrive they will as long at the attractive force is stronger than the repulsive force.



Attraction Experiment #3

The Pretending or deception Method

“The Apartment in the back”

Location: Colorado, 1996 – 2000

When I arrived here in Colorado, the only place I had to live was an old store building that had belonged to my grandmother. It was rent free, so that was what I liked about it. It was also large enough for a good sized art studio to work in and it had high ceilings. It was dusty, old, ugly and cold. I heated it with a small wood stove.

I was a little embarrassed when people asked me if I lived there in the store, so I would sometimes lie. I told them I lived in an apartment in the back of the store.

In the back of the store were four rooms and a tiny room with a toilet. They were piled with dusty junk and in very bad repair, but not much of an apartment.

Still, by telling people that I lived in an apartment in the back, I began to visualize that apartment, and over the course of the next eight years those rooms eventually did become an apartment, and that is where I am living right now.

I did not dig in and transform those rooms into an apartment myself, nor did I spend a lot of money on the project. But other things began to slowly happen. My Father decided to fix a roof and put up a wall. Then my brother stayed with us a while and he did more work, plugging up holes and putting in insulation and adding a shower. Eventually the junk in the rooms was cleared out. Very slowly the rooms did become an apartment. A friend I met, helped me design a small kitchen, a carpenter friend helped me build cabinets and took small payments.

The apartment has since been rewired, re-plumbed and repainted.

The lie that I was living in the apartment in the back of the store is now true. It took about ten years and is still in progress. I am in no hurry. I know it will be completed eventually, and then I visualize or see myself moving to a different place.

JB

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Fri 04/18/08 04:07 PM

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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
A.C. Clarke

Love your work JB!


:heart: So true. And Thanks!:heart: :heart:

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Fri 04/18/08 07:28 PM
Attraction Experiment #4

Intention: (The Missing Ingredient)

A good friend of mine and me both study and practice the creative techniques which is the formula for the Law of Attraction to get things that we need, or want.

We are working on a project that requires us both to have computers and her computer did not have a working monitor.

She did not have any extra money to buy the monitor and was practicing the visualization techniques to attract the monitor for about two months and had been unsuccessful and she was getting discouraged.

I had more faith, and I kept telling her not to worry, it would come. (I knew of a local businessman who might have some extra monitors he was not using and I felt sure he would give us one but I had not taken the steps to find out.)

Meanwhile, she kept trying to attract the needed monitor with her visualization techniques and it had not yet showed up. I was curious to see if her techniques would work.

One day while working at my computer I had a very sudden urge to go check with that businessman to see if he had any extra monitors, so I got up and went over there. He did, and he let me have my pick of about five monitors sitting in a back room.

I picked out the best one and took it directly over to my friend’s house who was just getting into her car. At that moment she was on her way to Wal-mart with the intention of buying a computer monitor. I told her not to bother, that I had one for her in the car.

So what just happened?

It was the missing ingredient. Her intention had just been added to her formula. Once intention was added, the monitor arrived. The timing could not have been more perfect.

About two months later she came across another monitor that was within her price range and it was a much better monitor, so she ended up getting an upgrade, and the older monitor was put to use on an older computer.

When the Law of Attraction is at work for you, you might end up with several different options to choose from, and you may find the thing you want seems to keep showing up even after you already have one.

The missing ingredient in her technique was intention. She had just been asking and visualizing and waiting. It was not until she intended to take action that the monitor arrived.

P.S. I had no idea she was on her way out the door to get a monitor.

Coincidence or luck?

JB





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Sat 04/19/08 12:44 AM
Motivation...

Confidence...

Determination...

Perserverence...

Integrity...


No coincidence needed!!! :wink:


Now, I must go back to chanting...!!! KonA.... KonA.... KonA...

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Sat 04/19/08 01:54 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Sat 04/19/08 02:12 AM
Jeannie...I don't doubt at all what you shared here about the law of attraction.
Heck yea it works.

I agree also with the results that can come also with the power of positive thinking, confidence, attitude..yes... ALL these will bring positive results.

We have also channeling,reiki, aculpunture, chakra ,balancing alignment, wholistic healing, natural healers ......in other words, there are many ways to channel energies and gain results.


But are any of these channeling of positive energy sources , giving GLORY to God the Creator....or... are they just giving glory to the energy source ...or to the creation.....or to something else besides God?:heart::heart::heart:



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Sat 04/19/08 08:04 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 04/19/08 08:11 AM

Jeannie...I don't doubt at all what you shared here about the law of attraction. Heck yea it works.

I agree also with the results that can come also with the power of positive thinking, confidence, attitude..yes... ALL these will bring positive results.

We have also channeling,reiki, aculpunture, chakra ,balancing alignment, wholistic healing, natural healers ......in other words, there are many ways to channel energies and gain results.

But are any of these channeling of positive energy sources , giving GLORY to God the Creator....or... are they just giving glory to the energy source ...or to the creation.....or to something else besides God?:heart::heart::heart:


There is nothing else besides "God" in the pantheist view. The Law of Attraction is a scientific quantum law which is moved and powered by thinking centers who are connected to the prime source.. God. flowerforyou

P.S. The "giving glory to God the Creator" is the gratitude part of the formula. This is necessary for the formula to be successful. Having Gratitude is a necessary ingredient. The gratitude is to whatever you imagine prime source to be. (God)


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Sat 04/19/08 09:35 AM
Yup!

flowerforyou

A very successful corporate salesman once told me...

Positive mental attitude equals other people's money!

I like thankfulness... it invokes humility... however, I know people who are quite successful that are coldhearted and ruthless also...

So, I am not sure of the blanket-coverage of the theory, there are too many elements which do not always fit...

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Sat 04/19/08 10:02 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 04/19/08 10:03 AM
Gratitude is the connection

You would not attempt to call someone on the phone if the phone was not connected. There is a reason that most prayer begins with a prayer of thanks.

Gratitude is the feeling that connects the request to the prime source.

Feelings, as has been discussed are important in the Attraction formula. A feeling of gratitude is a good and positive feeling. If a person is praying or visualizing something he wants or needs but at the same time is grumbling about his life situation and grumbling and unhappy and angry about his lack and his bad luck, he is not in a good attractive state of mind.

His emotional feeling about his current situation gives energy to that situation and perpetuates that. Therefore he is manifesting, but he is manifesting the thing that he is grumbling about and putting his emotions into.

The feeling of gratitude changes that energy to energy that is grateful about what he has and even more grateful for what he is about to receive.

"Believe that ye have it."

Know that it is yours and be grateful for it... before it arrives at your door. Have faith that it will.

Without gratitude, you are disconnected from source.

JB

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Sat 04/19/08 10:15 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 04/19/08 10:25 AM
I like thankfulness... it invokes humility... however, I know people who are quite successful that are coldhearted and ruthless also...

So, I am not sure of the blanket-coverage of the theory, there are too many elements which do not always fit...


I was thinking about this same principle earlier today as I have been asked about things like gambling or the lottery.

In business there are two ways to acquire wealth in this reality. One is to compete for it and take it from others. This is the competitive method. It involves a win-loose situation.

Someone has to loose in order for someone to win. Gambling and the lottery are examples of this. Even the casino owner, who has the advantage, depends upon other people loosing money in order for him to profit.

Riches gained in this manner are easily lost in the same manner and people who acquire wealth this way are forever loosing it and forever having to fight to keep and protect it and to hold onto it. Yes, it can be done, (and it does get ruthless, it has to.) because it is temporary and unstable. Fortunes are made and fortunes are lost in this method.

The other way to acquire wealth is the creative method. The creative method is always a win-win situation, and a win-win situation will always attract more wealth to you because people will learn that to associate with you is a win situation for them, rather than a loss situation. This will attract business and wealth to you.

Studies have shown that most business comes from repeat customers. You will not have many repeat customers if you are using the win-loose competitive method of acquiring wealth.

In the competitive method you will always have to find new customers and new customers are more expensive to find.

Other competitive methods, such as retail, (Like Wal-mart) will put other people out of business. This is a win - loose situation. These types of businesses will eventually fail. Yes Even Wal-mart will fail.

JB


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Sat 04/19/08 10:21 AM
What about the corporations who are very successful and have very happy clientele, which treat their employees like expendable pieces of garbage... or outsource rom slave labor in China?

Win/win by your description...

Not by mine though...

All I am saying is that there are so many elements which are outside such a simple scope.

Some people do not have the innate ability to know better or do better.

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Sat 04/19/08 10:27 AM
Redefining how to please 'God' in order to get whatcha want.

In general this seems to be the case.

If there is no personification(judgement) involved then gratitude would be moot.

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Sat 04/19/08 10:28 AM
If I had a magic wand about the only thing it would serve to do is make me lazy.

For example, I’m preparing to remodel my kitchen this summer. It’s a lot of work that will only get done if I get off my butt and actually do rebuild it. It’s a huge job because I’m talking about raising the roof here and instilling windows to let in natural light.

Two things would make it easier. A magic wand that I could just wave, and the kitchen would be magically and instantly remodeled. But then I couldn’t tell everyone that I did the work myself.

The other solution would be to ask the universe (or God) to send me the money to have contractors come in and do the work. Basically the same result as the magic wand only a little more messy and time consuming. But the end result would be a remodeled kitchen that I didn’t have to exert any work to obtain. But once again, I couldn’t say that I built it with my own two hands. The kitchen wouldn’t’ be of me.

Only I can make that dream come true by getting off my butt and doing it myself. This is something I’ve been having problems with lately. My butt is so used to sitting in this computer chair it fell in love with it and refuses to call off the relationship. laugh

I don’t need the universe, or God, or anything like that. All I need is a little bit of self-determination.

Now if I can just find it,… I know it’s laying around here somewhere,….

If I find it maybe I can start a new philosophy,… the ‘Law of Self-determination’. bigsmile

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Sat 04/19/08 10:28 AM

What about the corporations who are very successful and have very happy clientele, which treat their employees like expendable pieces of garbage... or outsource rom slave labor in China?

Win/win by your description...

Not by mine though...

All I am saying is that there are so many elements which are outside such a simple scope.

Some people do not have the innate ability to know better or do better.


A corporation who treats its employees badly will suffer a lot for it ~~ and will loose millions. This will eventually lead to their decline.

This is not win-win by my description. Win-win is a win for all, even employees.


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Sat 04/19/08 10:34 AM

Redefining how to please 'God' in order to get whatcha want.

In general this seems to be the case.

If there is no personification(judgement) involved then gratitude would be moot.


That's a very good point Michael. flowerforyou

But then again, if my new philosophy of “Self-determination” turns out to be true, the gratitude would really amount to ‘Self-appreciation’.

After all, if you have no appreciation (gratitude) for the things that you accomplish, then you won’t have any motivation to accomplish them. :wink:

Then you’ll end up with a butt that’s married to a computer chair!

OMG! That’s ME! I have no self-appreciation! That’s been my nemesis all along!

I need to go appease myself. laugh

But I can only be appeased by my accomplishments.

So I better get off my butt right now and go accomplish something around here!!!

Bye bye! drinker

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Sat 04/19/08 10:36 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 04/19/08 10:37 AM

Redefining how to please 'God' in order to get whatcha want.

In general this seems to be the case.

If there is no personification(judgement) involved then gratitude would be moot.



Gratitude has nothing to do with trying to "please God" to get what you want. Prime source (god) could not care less.

The Gratitude is all about feelings and the Law of Attraction is powered by feelings as they related to the thing asked for. If the feelings are negative and relate to a negative situation, that negative situation is perpetuated or manifested instead of the thing asked for.

JB

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Sat 04/19/08 10:42 AM
Tell that to the Walmart employees