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Bush's great legacy needs bumped. 
When Reagan left office, he was called one of the worst presidents in American history by Historians. He's now considered one of the best. George Bush won't get a fair shake from anyone who is a mindless partisan. It will be awhile before Americans can look at the Bush years as they truly were. But while it might take a generation before Bush gets his due in America, free Afganis and Iraqis are already singing his praises. Those who appreciate the sacrifices that America made so that they could have freedom and their daughters could walk down the street without a Burka or an escort or their daughters can go to school, those people are already thanking Bush for what he has done. You can't even begin to compare Afghanistan to Iraq. One was a response to an attack by actual terrorists. The other was waged under a cover of lies and misinformation. Every intelligence agency in the world thought Iraq had WMDs or was close to having them. That is common knowledge. Bush had bad intelligence. Sorry! It happens. Especially when Saddam WANTED the world to think he had WMDs. Democrats were all over the airwaves form when Bush announced the invasion until four months post invasion talking about how Iraq had WMDs, it was just a matter of finding them. Then suddenly, when it looked like we weren't going to find any, the Democrats start whining about the war. You might have a selective memory, but I don't. So you are either not informed enough to discuss the issue or you are a liar. Because this information is easily and widely available. You are on the internet to post your silly little response, hit google and actually learn something instead of just towing the party line. "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!! 
Oh, my dear Temp......I just posted to the TRUTH that CANNOT be denied......I am sorry if it hurts your feelings....but I do believe you are letting this whole 'conversation' get the best of you.... 
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Lol, awfully defensive here. I believe I can post regardless of whether you think it is informed or not. Whether you agree or not, the world was sold a bill of goods on Iraq that was refuted even before the war started. There's no need for you to be rude or a bully. Why don't you talk to the moderators about it? Here, I'll write the email for you: Spidercmb made me look like a complete idiot because I posted a fallacious reply about a subject that I have no knowlege about. 
Oh, because you were blinders everyone else is blind? Just because the facts and history support my statements and refute his, that's no reason to think I'm right, huh?  Listen. If everyone in the world stood up and said "You are wrong on this SpiderCMB", I would just shake my head in pity for those who are willfully ignorant. If you want to number yourself with the willfully ignorant, how do you think that effects me personally? I'll tell you one thing, it gives me a good belly laugh.
SPIDER....SO WELL PUT..... LINDYY
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Bush's great legacy needs bumped.
When Reagan left office, he was called one of the worst presidents in American history by Historians. He's now considered one of the best. George Bush won't get a fair shake from anyone who is a mindless partisan. It will be awhile before Americans can look at the Bush years as they truly were. But while it might take a generation before Bush gets his due in America, free Afganis and Iraqis are already singing his praises. Those who appreciate the sacrifices that America made so that they could have freedom and their daughters could walk down the street without a Burka or an escort or their daughters can go to school, those people are already thanking Bush for what he has done. You can't even begin to compare Afghanistan to Iraq. One was a response to an attack by actual terrorists. The other was waged under a cover of lies and misinformation. Every intelligence agency in the world thought Iraq had WMDs or was close to having them. That is common knowledge. Bush had bad intelligence. Sorry! It happens. Especially when Saddam WANTED the world to think he had WMDs. Democrats were all over the airwaves form when Bush announced the invasion until four months post invasion talking about how Iraq had WMDs, it was just a matter of finding them. Then suddenly, when it looked like we weren't going to find any, the Democrats start whining about the war. You might have a selective memory, but I don't. So you are either not informed enough to discuss the issue or you are a liar. Because this information is easily and widely available. You are on the internet to post your silly little response, hit google and actually learn something instead of just towing the party line. "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!
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I dont care if I get kicked..You call me ignorant one more time I will personally come to YOUR neighborhood and beat your mother ****ing azz Get your dam monitor
You are ignert. NOW, NOW TEMP........(RIGHTEOUS)..... 
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Ladies and Gentlemen I think we have all have seen a stunning example of willfully ignorant on this thread. That is all. haha Who am I kidding...that is all for now. Promise?????? |
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081125/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan ... Girls were banned from schools under hardline Taliban rule, and women could leave their homes only if they were clad in a body-hiding burqa and accompanied by a male relative. Afghanistan has made a major push to improve access to education for girls since an American-led offensive ousted the Taliban following the Sept. 11 terror attack on the U.S. Fewer than 1 million Afghan children — mostly boys — attended school under Taliban rule. Now, roughly 6 million do, including 2 million girls. ... The reason only 2 million girls go to school is explained in the article...girls who go to school are targets for the Taliban. They douse them with acid, beat them and shoot them. But still two million families are willing to take that risk to better their daughter's lives. 
WHAT in the name of GOD does this have to do with PRESIDENT George W. Bush's legacy? 
W's legacy to me will be one of a man who stood up and proclaimed his faith in Jesus Christ to the whole world, a man who got a ban on Partial Birth Abortion, a man who did all he could to help Africa with the treatment and attempt to stop the Aids epidemic (OH EXCUSE ME, HE JUST RECEIVED AN AWARD FOR HIS EXTENSIVE aid to AFRICA for this), a man who cut our taxes, a man who loves our military and our military loves him, unlike the Clinton years. A man of courage and endurance, who stood the line and did not waiver. I PRAISE GOD FOR PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH AND FIRST LADY LAURA BUSH..... LINDYY
Thank you even tho I disagree with what you said
I DID NO SUCH THING.....YOU JUST DO NOT KNOW HOW TO 'TRANSLATE' A MESSAGE.'
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OH, HE IS OUT THERE IN THE OZONE LAYER....THAT IS FOR SURE
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WHAT in the name of GOD does this have to do with PRESIDENT George W. Bush's legacy?
W's legacy to me will be one of a man who stood up and proclaimed his faith in Jesus Christ to the whole world, a man who got a ban on Partial Birth Abortion, a man who did all he could to help Africa with the treatment and attempt to stop the Aids epidemic (OH EXCUSE ME, HE JUST RECEIVED AN AWARD FOR HIS EXTENSIVE aid to AFRICA for this), a man who cut our taxes, a man who loves our military and our military loves him, unlike the Clinton years. A man of courage and endurance, who stood the line and did not waiver. I PRAISE GOD FOR PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH AND FIRST LADY LAURA BUSH..... LINDYY
oh, please.....wishful thinking gets one nowhere
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a SUPER LIAR AND DECEIVER, MANIPULATER AND EGOTISTICAL SOCIALIST MARXIST.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081125/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan ... Girls were banned from schools under hardline Taliban rule, and women could leave their homes only if they were clad in a body-hiding burqa and accompanied by a male relative. Afghanistan has made a major push to improve access to education for girls since an American-led offensive ousted the Taliban following the Sept. 11 terror attack on the U.S. Fewer than 1 million Afghan children — mostly boys — attended school under Taliban rule. Now, roughly 6 million do, including 2 million girls. ... The reason only 2 million girls go to school is explained in the article...girls who go to school are targets for the Taliban. They douse them with acid, beat them and shoot them. But still two million families are willing to take that risk to better their daughter's lives.
WHAT in the name of GOD does this have to do with PRESIDENT George W. Bush's legacy?
W's legacy to me will be one of a man who stood up and proclaimed his faith in Jesus Christ to the whole world, a man who got a ban on Partial Birth Abortion, a man who did all he could to help Africa with the treatment and attempt to stop the Aids epidemic (OH EXCUSE ME, HE JUST RECEIVED AN AWARD FOR HIS EXTENSIVE aid to AFRICA for this), a man who cut our taxes, a man who loves our military and our military loves him, unlike the Clinton years. A man of courage and endurance, who stood the line and did not waiver. I PRAISE GOD FOR PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH AND FIRST LADY LAURA BUSH..... LINDYY
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The war in Afghanistan is going badly for us so those girls won't be going to school long.Better to bring them here for education and then send them back to help improve their country. No, it's going quite well. Their fate is in Obama's hands, I hope he doesn't take his responsibility lightly.  Obama is the Chosen One. He is the Light Bringer and he will save the world.
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Eat your turkey!!!
And did you not accuse me of "baiting" with what I called my one post "A cute video?" OH, what goes around comes around
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speaking of pardons
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Okay, gonna buy your arguement that other presidents have made questionable pardons. LA LA LA Seems to me anyone who thought other presidents have made questionable pardons would support reining in that power or at least redefining it. That is another issue. One it seems we all agree on. Depending on timing it seems. Here is what makes potential Bush pardons different and well stinky. It seems he wants to offer blanket pardons to political appointees and people who did, within the administration, things that were if not illegal were legally questionable. Thing is we don't know for sure. Bush doesn't want us to know. That alone is a little scary. He isn't god or King...he is our employee and he is accountable to us. Remember? He swore to support and defend the Constitution. On the Bible too! Blanket pardons, before an investigation or charges, block the public from knowing the facts and block accountability. Now, loving Bush that might make that fine for 15 minutes but if you let him do this as he backs out the door to live on federal fat welfare the rest of his life you should stop and think for just a minute. Bush gets away with this and so will future presidents. It sets a precedent in law that might allow future presidents to do what ever they'd like and then as they walk out the door claim presidential privilege, issue pardons to all involved and walk away to live on your nickle the rest of their lives. Getting this down to grade school reasoning...two wrongs do not make a right. Seems there is a virus of "do as democrats say, not as they do" going around. 
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http://harpers.org/archive/2008/11/hbc-90003905 Bush may shortly act to issue a pre-emptive class-based pardon to insure that his helpers not be prosecuted. And if the pardon is class-based, one prominent beneficiary will be George W. Bush himself. ------------------------ should as president be able to in effect pardon himself ------------------------ reason titled """"speaking of pardons"""" http://mingle2.com/topic/show/183533 ON CLINTON'S LST DAY PEOPLE, HIS LAST DAY, TAKE A LOOK AT WHO/WHAT BILLY BOY CLINTON PARDONED: Bill Clinton pardons controversy From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search President Bill Clinton was widely criticized for some pardons and other acts of executive clemency;[1] collectively, this controversy has sometimes been called Pardongate in the press.[2] Longtime Clinton supporters and Democratic leaders such as James Carville, Terry McAuliffe and Jimmy Carter all were critical toward the Clinton pardons, with Carter calling them "disgraceful". [1] Federal prosecutor Mary Jo White was appointed to investigate the pardons. She was later replaced by James Comey. Comey found no grounds to indict Clinton. [edit] FALN Commutation of 1999 On August 11, 1999, Clinton commuted the sentences of 16 members of FALN, a violent Puerto Rican nationalist group that set off 120 bombs in the United States mostly in New York City and Chicago, convicted for conspiracies to commit robbery, bomb-making, and sedition, as well as for firearms and explosives violations.[3] None of the 16 were convicted of bombings or any crime which injured another person, though they were sentenced with terms ranging from 35 to 105 years in prison for the conviction of conspiracy and sedition. Congress, however, recognizes that the FALN is responsible for "6 deaths and the permanent maiming of dozens of others, including law enforcement officials." All of the 16 had served 19 years or longer in prison, which was a longer sentence than such crimes typically received, according to the White House.[4] Clinton offered clemency, on condition that the prisoners renounce violence, at the appeal of 10 Nobel Peace Prize laureates, President Jimmy Carter, the cardinal of New York, and the archbishop of Puerto Rico. The commutation was opposed by U.S. Attorney's Office, the FBI, and the Federal Bureau of Prisons and criticized by many including former victims of FALN terrorist activities, the Fraternal Order of Police,[5] members of Congress. Hillary Clinton, then campaigning for her first term in the Senate, initially supported the commutation,[6] but later withdrew her support when the prisoners had refused to renounce violence more than three weeks after clemency was offered.[7] Congress condemned the action, with a vote of 95-2 in the Senate and 311-41 in the House.[8][9] The U.S. House Committee on Government Reform held an investigation on the matter, but the Justice Department prevented FBI officials from testifying.[10] President Clinton cited executive privilege for his refusal to turn over some documents to Congress related to his decision to offer clemency to members of the FALN terrorist group. [edit] Edgar and Vonna Jo Gregory pardons In March 2000, Bill Clinton pardoned Edgar and Vonna Jo Gregory, owners of the carnival company United Shows International, for charges of bank fraud from a 1982 conviction. Although the couple had already been released from prison, the prior conviction prevented them from doing business in certain American states. First Lady Hillary Clinton's youngest brother, Tony Rodham, was an acquaintance of the Gregorys, and had lobbied Clinton on their behalf.[11] In October 2006, the group Judicial Watch filed a request with the U.S. Justice Department for an investigation, alleging that Rodham had received $107,000 from the Gregorys for the pardons, in the form of loans that were never repaid, as part of a quid pro quo scheme.[12] [edit] Pardons and commutations signed on final day in office Clinton issued 140 pardons as well as several commutations on his last day of office, January 20, 2001.[13] When a sentence is commuted, the conviction remains intact, but the sentence can be altered in a number of ways. Some controversial actions include the following: Peter MacDonald - The day before President Clinton left office, U.S. Rep. Patrick J. Kennedy lobbied the White House to commute the sentence of the former leader of the Navajo Nation. MacDonald was sentenced to 14 years at a Federal Prison in Texas for fraud, extortion, inciting riots, bribery, and corruption stemming from the Navajo purchase of the Big Boquillas Ranch in Northwestern Arizona. He was commuted after serving 10 years. Carlos A. Vignali had his sentence for cocaine trafficking commuted, after serving 6 of 15 years in federal prison. Almon Glenn Braswell was pardoned of his mail fraud and perjury convictions, even while a federal investigation was underway regarding additional money laundering and tax evasion charges.[14] Braswell and Carlos Vignali each paid approximately $200,000 to Hillary Clinton's brother, Hugh Rodham, to represent their respective cases for clemency. Hugh Rodham returned the payments after they were disclosed to the public.[15] Braswell would later invoke the Fifth Amendment at a Senate Committee hearing in 2001, when questioned about allegations of his having systematically defrauded senior citizens of millions of dollars.[16] Linda Sue Evans and Susan Rosenberg were pardoned. Weather Underground members, they were imprisoned on weapons and explosives charges.[17][18] Marc Rich, a fugitive, was pardoned of tax evasion, after clemency pleas from Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak, among many other international luminaries. He was required to pay a $100 million dollar fine and waive any use of the pardon as a defense against any future civil charges that were filed against him in the same case. Critics complained that Denise Rich, his former wife, had made substantial donations to the Clinton library and to Mrs. Clinton's senate campaign. Emails uncovered during the course of the investigation revealed that her final donation was provided a year before Scooter Libby requested that she approach Clinton for a pardon. According to Paul Volcker's independent investigation of Iraqi Oil-for-Food kickback schemes, Marc Rich was a middleman for several suspect Iraqi oil deals involving over 4 million barrels of oil.[19] Susan McDougal, who had already completed her sentence, was pardoned for her role in the Whitewater scandal; McDougal had served 18 months on contempt charges for refusing to testify about Clinton's role. Dan Rostenkowski, a former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal. Rostenkowski had served his entire sentence. Melvin J. Reynolds, a Democratic Congressman from Illinois, who was convicted of bank fraud, 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice, and solicitation of child pornography had his sentence commuted on the bank fraud charge and was allowed to serve the final months under the auspices of a half way house. He had served his entire sentence on child sex abuse charges before the commutation of the later convictions. Roger Clinton, the president's half-brother, on drug charges after having served the entire sentence more than a decade before. Roger Clinton would be charged with drunk driving and disorderly conduct in an unrelated incident within a year of the pardon.[20] He was also briefly alleged to have been utilized in lobbying for the Braswell pardon, among others. However, no wrongdoing was uncovered. On Feb. 18, 2001, Clinton wrote a New York Times column defending the 140 pardons.[21] List of people pardoned by Bill Clinton From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search The following is a partial list of people pardoned by Bill Clinton[1]. As President Bill Clinton used his power under the U.S. Constitution to grant pardons and clemency to 456 people, thus commuting the sentences of those already convicted of a crime, and obviating a trial for those not yet convicted. On January 20, 2001, he pardoned 140 people in the final hours of his presidency[2]. This list is a subset of the list of people pardoned by a United States president. This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it. Contents [hide] 1 Definitions 2 Commutations 3 Pardons 4 See also 5 References [edit] Definitions This list is a subset of the list of people pardoned by a United States president. The order in the list of pardons is alphabetical, the year is the date of conviction. Commutations are shown in chronological order. A pardon means an executive order vacating a conviction. As a result, their criminal record on this particular incident is now "clean", the social stigma of having been convicted of a crime is removed, and there are no future legal implications regarding the prohibition of some activities which may have created by the now-pardoned conviction e.g. being unable to legally possess a handgun. A commutation means a mitigation of the sentence of someone currently serving a sentence for a crime pursuant to a conviction, without vacating the conviction itself. As a result, the fact that they have been convicted of a crime remains on the person's criminal record. The existence of this conviction may have future implications e.g. restricting/prohibiting some activities or being automatically disqualified from applying for certain jobs. [edit] Commutations Ronald Henderson Blackley Bert Wayne Bolan Gloria Libia Camargo Charles F. Campbell David Ronald Chandler - federal death row inmate[1]. Lau Ching Chin Donald R. Clark Loreta De-Ann Coffman Derrick Curry Velinda Desalus Jacob Elbaum Linda Sue Evans Loretta Sharon Fish Antoinette M. Frink David Goldstein Gerard A. Greenfield Jodie E. Israel Kimberly Johnson Billy Thornton Langston Jr. Belinda Lynn Lumpkin Peter MacDonald - Navajo Chairman (sentence for 14 years in 1993 for fraud and racketeering convictions.) Kellie Ann Mann Peter Ninemire Hugh Ricardo Padmore Arnold Paul Prosperi Florida attorney, tax fraud. managed Clinton's 1967 campaign for student-council president.[2] Melvin J. Reynolds - Democratic Congressman from Illinois - bank fraud and obstruction of justice Pedro Miguel Riveiro Dorothy Rivers - lead official in Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, plead guilty to theft of 1.2 million dollars in federal grant money Susan Rosenberg Kalmen Stern Cory Stringfellow Carlos Anibal Vignali - convicted of cocaine trafficking Thomas Wilson Waddell III Harvey Weinig Kim Allen Willis Kimba Smith Antonio Camacho Negron - FALN militant [edit] Pardons Verla Jean Allen (1990 false statements to an agency of the United States).[3] Nicholas M. Altiere (1983 importation of cocaine) Bernice Ruth Altschul (1992 money laundering conspiracy) Joe Anderson Jr. (1988 income tax evasion) William Sterling Anderson (1987 defraudment of a financial institution, false statements to a financial institution, wire fraud) Mansour Azizkhani (1984 false statements in bank loan applications) Cleveland Victor Babin Jr. (1987 using the U.S. mail service to defraud) Chris Harmon Bagley (1989 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine) Scott Lynn Bane (Unlawful distribution of marijuana) Thomas Cleveland Barber (Issuing worthless checks) Peggy Ann Bargon (Violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act) David Roscoe Blampied (possess with intent to distribute cocaine) William Arthur Borders Jr. (Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery) Arthur David Borel (Odometer Rollback) Douglas Charles Borel (Odometer Rollback) George Thomas Brabham (Making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank) Almon Glenn Braswell (1983 mail fraud and perjury) Leonard Browder (Illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud) David Steven Brown (Securities fraud and mail fraud) Delores Caroylene Burleson, aka Delores Cox Burleson (Possession of Marijuana) John H. Bustamante (wire fraud) Mary Louise Campbell (Unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps) Eloida Candelaria (False information in registering to vote) Dennis Sobrevinas Capili (Filing false statements in alien registration) Donna Denise Chambers (Intent to distribute cocaine) Douglas Eugene Chapman (Bank fraud) Ronald Keith Chapman (Bank fraud) Francisco Larois Chavez (Aiding and abetting illegal entry of aliens) Henry Cisneros (former HUD Secretary) Roger Clinton, Jr. Cocaine charges(half-brother of President Bill Clinton)[3] Stuart Harris Cohn (Illegal sale of commodity options) David Marc Cooper (Conspiracy to defraud the government) Ernest Harley Cox Jr. (Defraud of federally insured savings and loan) John F. Cross Jr. (Embezzlement) Rickey Lee Cunningham (Intent to distribute marijuana) Richard Anthony De Labio (Mail fraud) John Deutch (former Director of Central Intelligence Agency) Richard Douglas (False statements to a government agent) Edward Reynolds Downe (Wire fraud, false income tax returns and securities fraud) Marvin Dean Dudley (False statements) Larry Lee Duncan Galen R. Elmore (Convicted of cattle theft) Robert Clinton Fain Marcos Arcenio Fernandez Alvarez Ferrouillet Henry O. Flipper - guilty of "conduct unbecoming an officer" (1882) William Dennis Fugazy Lloyd Reid George Louis Goldstein Rubye Lee Gordon Pincus Green Robert Ivey Hamner Samuel Price Handley Woodie Randolph Handley Jay Houston Harmon Rick Hendrick John Hummingson David S. Herdlinger Debi Rae Huckleberry Warren C. Hultgren Jr. Donald Ray James Stanley Pruet Jobe Ruben H. Johnson Linda Jones James Howard Lake June Louise Lewis Salim Bonnor Lewis John Leighton Lodwick Hildebrando Lopez Jose Julio Luaces James Timothy Maness James Lowell Manning, (1982, aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate income tax return) John Robert Martin Frank Ayala Martinez Silvia Leticia Beltran Martinez John Francis McCormick Susan H. McDougal Howard Mechanic Brook K. Mitchell Sr. Samuel Loring Morison Charles Wilfred Morgan III Richard Anthony Nazzaro Charlene Ann Nosenko Vernon Raymond Obermeier Miguelina Ogalde David C. Owen Robert W. Palmer Kelli Anne Perhosky Richard H. Pezzopane Orville Rex Phillips Vinson Stewart Poling Jr. James G. Powell Norman Lyle Prouse Willie H.H. Pruitt Jr.[4] Danny Martin Pursley Sr. Charles D. Ravenel William Clyde Ray Alfredo Luna Regalado Ildefonso Reynes Ricafort Marc Rich Howard Winfield Riddle Richard Wilson Riley Jr., Cocaine and marijuana charges, His father was Clinton's Education Secretary.[4] Samuel Lee Robbins Joel Gonzales Rodriguez Michael James Rogers Anna Louise Ross Dan Rostenkowski - Former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal Gerald Glen Rust Jerri Ann Rust Bettye June Rutherford Gregory Lee Sands Adolph Schwimmer Albert A. Seretti Jr. Patricia Campbell Hearst Shaw Dennis Joseph Smith Gerald Owen Smith Stephen A. Smith Jimmie Lee Speake Charles Bernard Stewart Marlena Francisca Stewart-Rollins Fife Symington III - former Arizona governor Richard Lee Tannehill Nicholas C. Tenaglia Gary Allen Thomas Larry Weldon Todd Olga C. Trevino Ignatious Vamvouklis Patricia A. Van De Weerd Christopher V. Wade Bill Wayne Warmath Jack Kenneth Watson Donna Lynn Webb Donald William Wells Robert H. Wendt Jack L. Williams Kavin Arthur Williams Robert Michael Williams Jimmie Lee Wilson Thelma Louise Wingate Mitchell Couey Wood Warren Stannard Wood Dewey Worthey Rick Allen Yale Joseph A. Yasak William Stanley Yingling Phillip David Young Keith Sanders Darren Muci John Scott (not a full pardon) 
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OH, I SEE...... AS TO WHAT BILLY BOY DID.......
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"I think they're pretty," said Lerner, who is Jewish. "It's just a Christmas tree. I don't mind." Neither does junior Stephanie Tirado, 20, an education major from New York. "Christmas is no longer just a religious holiday. It's commercialized now," said Tirado, who is Wiccan. "Why don't they just add a menorah then?" ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? LOL...lindyy...some people just don't get the digressive secular mindnumb idiocies. I DO NOT THINK THEY KNOW THE MEANING OF "SECULAR PROGRESSIVE" 
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speaking of pardons
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http://harpers.org/archive/2008/11/hbc-90003905 Bush may shortly act to issue a pre-emptive class-based pardon to insure that his helpers not be prosecuted. And if the pardon is class-based, one prominent beneficiary will be George W. Bush himself. ------------------------ should as president be able to in effect pardon himself ------------------------ reason titled """"speaking of pardons"""" http://mingle2.com/topic/show/183533 ON CLINTON'S LST DAY PEOPLE, HIS LAST DAY, TAKE A LOOK AT WHO/WHAT BILLY BOY CLINTON PARDONED: Bill Clinton pardons controversy From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search President Bill Clinton was widely criticized for some pardons and other acts of executive clemency;[1] collectively, this controversy has sometimes been called Pardongate in the press.[2] Longtime Clinton supporters and Democratic leaders such as James Carville, Terry McAuliffe and Jimmy Carter all were critical toward the Clinton pardons, with Carter calling them "disgraceful". [1] Federal prosecutor Mary Jo White was appointed to investigate the pardons. She was later replaced by James Comey. Comey found no grounds to indict Clinton. [edit] FALN Commutation of 1999 On August 11, 1999, Clinton commuted the sentences of 16 members of FALN, a violent Puerto Rican nationalist group that set off 120 bombs in the United States mostly in New York City and Chicago, convicted for conspiracies to commit robbery, bomb-making, and sedition, as well as for firearms and explosives violations.[3] None of the 16 were convicted of bombings or any crime which injured another person, though they were sentenced with terms ranging from 35 to 105 years in prison for the conviction of conspiracy and sedition. Congress, however, recognizes that the FALN is responsible for "6 deaths and the permanent maiming of dozens of others, including law enforcement officials." All of the 16 had served 19 years or longer in prison, which was a longer sentence than such crimes typically received, according to the White House.[4] Clinton offered clemency, on condition that the prisoners renounce violence, at the appeal of 10 Nobel Peace Prize laureates, President Jimmy Carter, the cardinal of New York, and the archbishop of Puerto Rico. The commutation was opposed by U.S. Attorney's Office, the FBI, and the Federal Bureau of Prisons and criticized by many including former victims of FALN terrorist activities, the Fraternal Order of Police,[5] members of Congress. Hillary Clinton, then campaigning for her first term in the Senate, initially supported the commutation,[6] but later withdrew her support when the prisoners had refused to renounce violence more than three weeks after clemency was offered.[7] Congress condemned the action, with a vote of 95-2 in the Senate and 311-41 in the House.[8][9] The U.S. House Committee on Government Reform held an investigation on the matter, but the Justice Department prevented FBI officials from testifying.[10] President Clinton cited executive privilege for his refusal to turn over some documents to Congress related to his decision to offer clemency to members of the FALN terrorist group. [edit] Edgar and Vonna Jo Gregory pardons In March 2000, Bill Clinton pardoned Edgar and Vonna Jo Gregory, owners of the carnival company United Shows International, for charges of bank fraud from a 1982 conviction. Although the couple had already been released from prison, the prior conviction prevented them from doing business in certain American states. First Lady Hillary Clinton's youngest brother, Tony Rodham, was an acquaintance of the Gregorys, and had lobbied Clinton on their behalf.[11] In October 2006, the group Judicial Watch filed a request with the U.S. Justice Department for an investigation, alleging that Rodham had received $107,000 from the Gregorys for the pardons, in the form of loans that were never repaid, as part of a quid pro quo scheme.[12] [edit] Pardons and commutations signed on final day in office Clinton issued 140 pardons as well as several commutations on his last day of office, January 20, 2001.[13] When a sentence is commuted, the conviction remains intact, but the sentence can be altered in a number of ways. Some controversial actions include the following: Peter MacDonald - The day before President Clinton left office, U.S. Rep. Patrick J. Kennedy lobbied the White House to commute the sentence of the former leader of the Navajo Nation. MacDonald was sentenced to 14 years at a Federal Prison in Texas for fraud, extortion, inciting riots, bribery, and corruption stemming from the Navajo purchase of the Big Boquillas Ranch in Northwestern Arizona. He was commuted after serving 10 years. Carlos A. Vignali had his sentence for cocaine trafficking commuted, after serving 6 of 15 years in federal prison. Almon Glenn Braswell was pardoned of his mail fraud and perjury convictions, even while a federal investigation was underway regarding additional money laundering and tax evasion charges.[14] Braswell and Carlos Vignali each paid approximately $200,000 to Hillary Clinton's brother, Hugh Rodham, to represent their respective cases for clemency. Hugh Rodham returned the payments after they were disclosed to the public.[15] Braswell would later invoke the Fifth Amendment at a Senate Committee hearing in 2001, when questioned about allegations of his having systematically defrauded senior citizens of millions of dollars.[16] Linda Sue Evans and Susan Rosenberg were pardoned. Weather Underground members, they were imprisoned on weapons and explosives charges.[17][18] Marc Rich, a fugitive, was pardoned of tax evasion, after clemency pleas from Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak, among many other international luminaries. He was required to pay a $100 million dollar fine and waive any use of the pardon as a defense against any future civil charges that were filed against him in the same case. Critics complained that Denise Rich, his former wife, had made substantial donations to the Clinton library and to Mrs. Clinton's senate campaign. Emails uncovered during the course of the investigation revealed that her final donation was provided a year before Scooter Libby requested that she approach Clinton for a pardon. According to Paul Volcker's independent investigation of Iraqi Oil-for-Food kickback schemes, Marc Rich was a middleman for several suspect Iraqi oil deals involving over 4 million barrels of oil.[19] Susan McDougal, who had already completed her sentence, was pardoned for her role in the Whitewater scandal; McDougal had served 18 months on contempt charges for refusing to testify about Clinton's role. Dan Rostenkowski, a former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal. Rostenkowski had served his entire sentence. Melvin J. Reynolds, a Democratic Congressman from Illinois, who was convicted of bank fraud, 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice, and solicitation of child pornography had his sentence commuted on the bank fraud charge and was allowed to serve the final months under the auspices of a half way house. He had served his entire sentence on child sex abuse charges before the commutation of the later convictions. Roger Clinton, the president's half-brother, on drug charges after having served the entire sentence more than a decade before. Roger Clinton would be charged with drunk driving and disorderly conduct in an unrelated incident within a year of the pardon.[20] He was also briefly alleged to have been utilized in lobbying for the Braswell pardon, among others. However, no wrongdoing was uncovered. On Feb. 18, 2001, Clinton wrote a New York Times column defending the 140 pardons.[21] List of people pardoned by Bill Clinton From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search The following is a partial list of people pardoned by Bill Clinton[1]. As President Bill Clinton used his power under the U.S. Constitution to grant pardons and clemency to 456 people, thus commuting the sentences of those already convicted of a crime, and obviating a trial for those not yet convicted. On January 20, 2001, he pardoned 140 people in the final hours of his presidency[2]. This list is a subset of the list of people pardoned by a United States president. This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it. Contents [hide] 1 Definitions 2 Commutations 3 Pardons 4 See also 5 References [edit] Definitions This list is a subset of the list of people pardoned by a United States president. The order in the list of pardons is alphabetical, the year is the date of conviction. Commutations are shown in chronological order. A pardon means an executive order vacating a conviction. As a result, their criminal record on this particular incident is now "clean", the social stigma of having been convicted of a crime is removed, and there are no future legal implications regarding the prohibition of some activities which may have created by the now-pardoned conviction e.g. being unable to legally possess a handgun. A commutation means a mitigation of the sentence of someone currently serving a sentence for a crime pursuant to a conviction, without vacating the conviction itself. As a result, the fact that they have been convicted of a crime remains on the person's criminal record. The existence of this conviction may have future implications e.g. restricting/prohibiting some activities or being automatically disqualified from applying for certain jobs. [edit] Commutations Ronald Henderson Blackley Bert Wayne Bolan Gloria Libia Camargo Charles F. Campbell David Ronald Chandler - federal death row inmate[1]. Lau Ching Chin Donald R. Clark Loreta De-Ann Coffman Derrick Curry Velinda Desalus Jacob Elbaum Linda Sue Evans Loretta Sharon Fish Antoinette M. Frink David Goldstein Gerard A. Greenfield Jodie E. Israel Kimberly Johnson Billy Thornton Langston Jr. Belinda Lynn Lumpkin Peter MacDonald - Navajo Chairman (sentence for 14 years in 1993 for fraud and racketeering convictions.) Kellie Ann Mann Peter Ninemire Hugh Ricardo Padmore Arnold Paul Prosperi Florida attorney, tax fraud. managed Clinton's 1967 campaign for student-council president.[2] Melvin J. Reynolds - Democratic Congressman from Illinois - bank fraud and obstruction of justice Pedro Miguel Riveiro Dorothy Rivers - lead official in Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, plead guilty to theft of 1.2 million dollars in federal grant money Susan Rosenberg Kalmen Stern Cory Stringfellow Carlos Anibal Vignali - convicted of cocaine trafficking Thomas Wilson Waddell III Harvey Weinig Kim Allen Willis Kimba Smith Antonio Camacho Negron - FALN militant [edit] Pardons Verla Jean Allen (1990 false statements to an agency of the United States).[3] Nicholas M. Altiere (1983 importation of cocaine) Bernice Ruth Altschul (1992 money laundering conspiracy) Joe Anderson Jr. (1988 income tax evasion) William Sterling Anderson (1987 defraudment of a financial institution, false statements to a financial institution, wire fraud) Mansour Azizkhani (1984 false statements in bank loan applications) Cleveland Victor Babin Jr. (1987 using the U.S. mail service to defraud) Chris Harmon Bagley (1989 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine) Scott Lynn Bane (Unlawful distribution of marijuana) Thomas Cleveland Barber (Issuing worthless checks) Peggy Ann Bargon (Violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act) David Roscoe Blampied (possess with intent to distribute cocaine) William Arthur Borders Jr. (Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery) Arthur David Borel (Odometer Rollback) Douglas Charles Borel (Odometer Rollback) George Thomas Brabham (Making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank) Almon Glenn Braswell (1983 mail fraud and perjury) Leonard Browder (Illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud) David Steven Brown (Securities fraud and mail fraud) Delores Caroylene Burleson, aka Delores Cox Burleson (Possession of Marijuana) John H. Bustamante (wire fraud) Mary Louise Campbell (Unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps) Eloida Candelaria (False information in registering to vote) Dennis Sobrevinas Capili (Filing false statements in alien registration) Donna Denise Chambers (Intent to distribute cocaine) Douglas Eugene Chapman (Bank fraud) Ronald Keith Chapman (Bank fraud) Francisco Larois Chavez (Aiding and abetting illegal entry of aliens) Henry Cisneros (former HUD Secretary) Roger Clinton, Jr. Cocaine charges(half-brother of President Bill Clinton)[3] Stuart Harris Cohn (Illegal sale of commodity options) David Marc Cooper (Conspiracy to defraud the government) Ernest Harley Cox Jr. (Defraud of federally insured savings and loan) John F. Cross Jr. (Embezzlement) Rickey Lee Cunningham (Intent to distribute marijuana) Richard Anthony De Labio (Mail fraud) John Deutch (former Director of Central Intelligence Agency) Richard Douglas (False statements to a government agent) Edward Reynolds Downe (Wire fraud, false income tax returns and securities fraud) Marvin Dean Dudley (False statements) Larry Lee Duncan Galen R. Elmore (Convicted of cattle theft) Robert Clinton Fain Marcos Arcenio Fernandez Alvarez Ferrouillet Henry O. Flipper - guilty of "conduct unbecoming an officer" (1882) William Dennis Fugazy Lloyd Reid George Louis Goldstein Rubye Lee Gordon Pincus Green Robert Ivey Hamner Samuel Price Handley Woodie Randolph Handley Jay Houston Harmon Rick Hendrick John Hummingson David S. Herdlinger Debi Rae Huckleberry Warren C. Hultgren Jr. Donald Ray James Stanley Pruet Jobe Ruben H. Johnson Linda Jones James Howard Lake June Louise Lewis Salim Bonnor Lewis John Leighton Lodwick Hildebrando Lopez Jose Julio Luaces James Timothy Maness James Lowell Manning, (1982, aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate income tax return) John Robert Martin Frank Ayala Martinez Silvia Leticia Beltran Martinez John Francis McCormick Susan H. McDougal Howard Mechanic Brook K. Mitchell Sr. Samuel Loring Morison Charles Wilfred Morgan III Richard Anthony Nazzaro Charlene Ann Nosenko Vernon Raymond Obermeier Miguelina Ogalde David C. Owen Robert W. Palmer Kelli Anne Perhosky Richard H. Pezzopane Orville Rex Phillips Vinson Stewart Poling Jr. James G. Powell Norman Lyle Prouse Willie H.H. Pruitt Jr.[4] Danny Martin Pursley Sr. Charles D. Ravenel William Clyde Ray Alfredo Luna Regalado Ildefonso Reynes Ricafort Marc Rich Howard Winfield Riddle Richard Wilson Riley Jr., Cocaine and marijuana charges, His father was Clinton's Education Secretary.[4] Samuel Lee Robbins Joel Gonzales Rodriguez Michael James Rogers Anna Louise Ross Dan Rostenkowski - Former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal Gerald Glen Rust Jerri Ann Rust Bettye June Rutherford Gregory Lee Sands Adolph Schwimmer Albert A. Seretti Jr. Patricia Campbell Hearst Shaw Dennis Joseph Smith Gerald Owen Smith Stephen A. Smith Jimmie Lee Speake Charles Bernard Stewart Marlena Francisca Stewart-Rollins Fife Symington III - former Arizona governor Richard Lee Tannehill Nicholas C. Tenaglia Gary Allen Thomas Larry Weldon Todd Olga C. Trevino Ignatious Vamvouklis Patricia A. Van De Weerd Christopher V. Wade Bill Wayne Warmath Jack Kenneth Watson Donna Lynn Webb Donald William Wells Robert H. Wendt Jack L. Williams Kavin Arthur Williams Robert Michael Williams Jimmie Lee Wilson Thelma Louise Wingate Mitchell Couey Wood Warren Stannard Wood Dewey Worthey Rick Allen Yale Joseph A. Yasak William Stanley Yingling Phillip David Young Keith Sanders Darren Muci John Scott (not a full pardon)
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http://harpers.org/archive/2008/11/hbc-90003905 Bush may shortly act to issue a pre-emptive class-based pardon to insure that his helpers not be prosecuted. And if the pardon is class-based, one prominent beneficiary will be George W. Bush himself. ------------------------ should as president be able to in effect pardon himself ------------------------ reason titled """"speaking of pardons"""" http://mingle2.com/topic/show/183533 The following is a partial list of people pardoned by Bill Clinton[1]. As President Bill Clinton used his power under the U.S. Constitution to grant pardons and clemency to 456 people, thus commuting the sentences of those already convicted of a crime, and obviating a trial for those not yet convicted. On January 20, 2001, he pardoned 140 people in the final hours of his presidency[2]. This list is a subset of the list of people pardoned by a United States president. This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it. Contents [hide] 1 Definitions 2 Commutations 3 Pardons 4 See also 5 References [edit] Definitions This list is a subset of the list of people pardoned by a United States president. The order in the list of pardons is alphabetical, the year is the date of conviction. Commutations are shown in chronological order. A pardon means an executive order vacating a conviction. As a result, their criminal record on this particular incident is now "clean", the social stigma of having been convicted of a crime is removed, and there are no future legal implications regarding the prohibition of some activities which may have created by the now-pardoned conviction e.g. being unable to legally possess a handgun. A commutation means a mitigation of the sentence of someone currently serving a sentence for a crime pursuant to a conviction, without vacating the conviction itself. As a result, the fact that they have been convicted of a crime remains on the person's criminal record. The existence of this conviction may have future implications e.g. restricting/prohibiting some activities or being automatically disqualified from applying for certain jobs. [edit] Commutations Ronald Henderson Blackley Bert Wayne Bolan Gloria Libia Camargo Charles F. Campbell David Ronald Chandler - federal death row inmate[1]. Lau Ching Chin Donald R. Clark Loreta De-Ann Coffman Derrick Curry Velinda Desalus Jacob Elbaum Linda Sue Evans Loretta Sharon Fish Antoinette M. Frink David Goldstein Gerard A. Greenfield Jodie E. Israel Kimberly Johnson Billy Thornton Langston Jr. Belinda Lynn Lumpkin Peter MacDonald - Navajo Chairman (sentence for 14 years in 1993 for fraud and racketeering convictions.) Kellie Ann Mann Peter Ninemire Hugh Ricardo Padmore Arnold Paul Prosperi Florida attorney, tax fraud. managed Clinton's 1967 campaign for student-council president.[2] Melvin J. Reynolds - Democratic Congressman from Illinois - bank fraud and obstruction of justice Pedro Miguel Riveiro Dorothy Rivers - lead official in Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, plead guilty to theft of 1.2 million dollars in federal grant money Susan Rosenberg Kalmen Stern Cory Stringfellow Carlos Anibal Vignali - convicted of cocaine trafficking Thomas Wilson Waddell III Harvey Weinig Kim Allen Willis Kimba Smith Antonio Camacho Negron - FALN militant [edit] Pardons Verla Jean Allen (1990 false statements to an agency of the United States).[3] Nicholas M. Altiere (1983 importation of cocaine) Bernice Ruth Altschul (1992 money laundering conspiracy) Joe Anderson Jr. (1988 income tax evasion) William Sterling Anderson (1987 defraudment of a financial institution, false statements to a financial institution, wire fraud) Mansour Azizkhani (1984 false statements in bank loan applications) Cleveland Victor Babin Jr. (1987 using the U.S. mail service to defraud) Chris Harmon Bagley (1989 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine) Scott Lynn Bane (Unlawful distribution of marijuana) Thomas Cleveland Barber (Issuing worthless checks) Peggy Ann Bargon (Violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act) David Roscoe Blampied (possess with intent to distribute cocaine) William Arthur Borders Jr. (Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery) Arthur David Borel (Odometer Rollback) Douglas Charles Borel (Odometer Rollback) George Thomas Brabham (Making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank) Almon Glenn Braswell (1983 mail fraud and perjury) Leonard Browder (Illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud) David Steven Brown (Securities fraud and mail fraud) Delores Caroylene Burleson, aka Delores Cox Burleson (Possession of Marijuana) John H. Bustamante (wire fraud) Mary Louise Campbell (Unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps) Eloida Candelaria (False information in registering to vote) Dennis Sobrevinas Capili (Filing false statements in alien registration) Donna Denise Chambers (Intent to distribute cocaine) Douglas Eugene Chapman (Bank fraud) Ronald Keith Chapman (Bank fraud) Francisco Larois Chavez (Aiding and abetting illegal entry of aliens) Henry Cisneros (former HUD Secretary) Roger Clinton, Jr. Cocaine charges(half-brother of President Bill Clinton)[3] Stuart Harris Cohn (Illegal sale of commodity options) David Marc Cooper (Conspiracy to defraud the government) Ernest Harley Cox Jr. (Defraud of federally insured savings and loan) John F. Cross Jr. (Embezzlement) Rickey Lee Cunningham (Intent to distribute marijuana) Richard Anthony De Labio (Mail fraud) John Deutch (former Director of Central Intelligence Agency) Richard Douglas (False statements to a government agent) Edward Reynolds Downe (Wire fraud, false income tax returns and securities fraud) Marvin Dean Dudley (False statements) Larry Lee Duncan Galen R. Elmore (Convicted of cattle theft) Robert Clinton Fain Marcos Arcenio Fernandez Alvarez Ferrouillet Henry O. Flipper - guilty of "conduct unbecoming an officer" (1882) William Dennis Fugazy Lloyd Reid George Louis Goldstein Rubye Lee Gordon Pincus Green Robert Ivey Hamner Samuel Price Handley Woodie Randolph Handley Jay Houston Harmon Rick Hendrick John Hummingson David S. Herdlinger Debi Rae Huckleberry Warren C. Hultgren Jr. Donald Ray James Stanley Pruet Jobe Ruben H. Johnson Linda Jones James Howard Lake June Louise Lewis Salim Bonnor Lewis John Leighton Lodwick Hildebrando Lopez Jose Julio Luaces James Timothy Maness James Lowell Manning, (1982, aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate income tax return) John Robert Martin Frank Ayala Martinez Silvia Leticia Beltran Martinez John Francis McCormick Susan H. McDougal Howard Mechanic Brook K. Mitchell Sr. Samuel Loring Morison Charles Wilfred Morgan III Richard Anthony Nazzaro Charlene Ann Nosenko Vernon Raymond Obermeier Miguelina Ogalde David C. Owen Robert W. Palmer Kelli Anne Perhosky Richard H. Pezzopane Orville Rex Phillips Vinson Stewart Poling Jr. James G. Powell Norman Lyle Prouse Willie H.H. Pruitt Jr.[4] Danny Martin Pursley Sr. Charles D. Ravenel William Clyde Ray Alfredo Luna Regalado Ildefonso Reynes Ricafort Marc Rich Howard Winfield Riddle Richard Wilson Riley Jr., Cocaine and marijuana charges, His father was Clinton's Education Secretary.[4] Samuel Lee Robbins Joel Gonzales Rodriguez Michael James Rogers Anna Louise Ross Dan Rostenkowski - Former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal Gerald Glen Rust Jerri Ann Rust Bettye June Rutherford Gregory Lee Sands Adolph Schwimmer Albert A. Seretti Jr. Patricia Campbell Hearst Shaw Dennis Joseph Smith Gerald Owen Smith Stephen A. Smith Jimmie Lee Speake Charles Bernard Stewart Marlena Francisca Stewart-Rollins Fife Symington III - former Arizona governor Richard Lee Tannehill Nicholas C. Tenaglia Gary Allen Thomas Larry Weldon Todd Olga C. Trevino Ignatious Vamvouklis Patricia A. Van De Weerd Christopher V. Wade Bill Wayne Warmath Jack Kenneth Watson Donna Lynn Webb Donald William Wells Robert H. Wendt Jack L. Williams Kavin Arthur Williams Robert Michael Williams Jimmie Lee Wilson Thelma Louise Wingate Mitchell Couey Wood Warren Stannard Wood Dewey Worthey Rick Allen Yale Joseph A. Yasak William Stanley Yingling Phillip David Young Keith Sanders Darren Muci John Scott (not a full pardon) |
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So much for letting people celebrate THEIR holy holidays...right? Whatever happened to live & let live. OOPS! I forgot...that for the politically correect only & all others need not apply. Same old story with these loonies. the only commercializing I see are from the gobless who want everyone else to be equally as miserable as they are. Bah Humbug to them. Ho, ho, nope! FGCU to limit holiday decor Christmas is just 30 days away, but Santa Claus won't be stopping by Florida Gulf Coast University this holiday. He's not allowed on campus. FGCU administration has banned all holiday decorations from common spaces on campus and canceled a popular greeting card design contest, which is being replaced by an ugly sweater competition. In Griffin Hall, the university's giving tree for needy preschoolers has been transformed into a "giving garden." The moves boil down to political correctness. "Public institutions, including FGCU, often struggle with how best to observe the season in ways that honor and respect all traditions," President Wilson Bradshaw wrote in a memo to faculty and staff Thursday. "This is a challenging issue each year at FGCU, and 2008 is no exception. While it may appear at times that a vocal majority of opinion is the only view that is held, this is not always the case." Bradshaw's directive struck a chord with FGCU employees. The Staff Advisory Council received 44 anonymous comments on the issue; all were against the ban on holiday decorations. "It says people are very passionate about this," said council president Ruth Rodrigues, who also is director of auxiliary services. "The holidays are a joyous time, and they want to express themselves." The council voted Monday to send administration a letter outlining employees' comments. In Bradshaw's memo, he said the decision was not an "attempt to suppress expression of the holiday spirit." Staffers will be permitted to display holiday decorations on their desks, but not on their office doors or in common spaces. Traditional workplace Christmas parties are not an issue at FGCU. "We don't generally have Christmas parties here," said Audrea Anderson, associate vice president for community relations and marketing. "There are end-of-the-semester parties or end-of-the-calendar-year parties. They are certainly not related to anyone's beliefs." Bradshaw plans to convene a committee in 2009 to address future methods of sharing traditions throughout the year. In 2001, then-President William Merwin lit the university's official Christmas tree, a 22-foot Colorado blue spruce. Children from the college's child care center and university choir performed traditional carols. Junior Marilyn Lerner, a 20-year-old resort and hospitality management major from California, said she'll miss seeing Christmas trees in the Student Union. "I think they're pretty," said Lerner, who is Jewish. "It's just a Christmas tree. I don't mind." Neither does junior Stephanie Tirado, 20, an education major from New York. "Christmas is no longer just a religious holiday. It's commercialized now," said Tirado, who is Wiccan. "Why don't they just add a menorah then?" ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
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I for one am hoping the GOP is sidelined for many years to come! Sorry...will not happen....... Lindyy
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Evangelicals will take over the GOP completely. they know how to raise money and spend it on themselves lol REALLY now? I am an Evangelical... Lindyy
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