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Topic: the Secular Humanist Grinch...
Quikstepper's photo
Tue 11/25/08 03:20 PM
So much for letting people celebrate THEIR holy holidays...right? Whatever happened to live & let live. OOPS! I forgot...that for the politically correect only & all others need not apply. Same old story with these loonies. the only commercializing I see are from the gobless who want everyone else to be equally as miserable as they are. Bah Humbug to them.

Ho, ho, nope! FGCU to limit holiday decor

Christmas is just 30 days away, but Santa Claus won't be stopping by Florida Gulf Coast University this holiday.


He's not allowed on campus.

FGCU administration has banned all holiday decorations from common spaces on campus and canceled a popular greeting card design contest, which is being replaced by an ugly sweater competition. In Griffin Hall, the university's giving tree for needy preschoolers has been transformed into a "giving garden."

The moves boil down to political correctness.

"Public institutions, including FGCU, often struggle with how best to observe the season in ways that honor and respect all traditions," President Wilson Bradshaw wrote in a memo to faculty and staff Thursday. "This is a challenging issue each year at FGCU, and 2008 is no exception. While it may appear at times that a vocal majority of opinion is the only view that is held, this is not always the case."

Bradshaw's directive struck a chord with FGCU employees. The Staff Advisory Council received 44 anonymous comments on the issue; all were against the ban on holiday decorations.

"It says people are very passionate about this," said council president Ruth Rodrigues, who also is director of auxiliary services. "The holidays are a joyous time, and they want to express themselves."

The council voted Monday to send administration a letter outlining employees' comments.

In Bradshaw's memo, he said the decision was not an "attempt to suppress expression of the holiday spirit." Staffers will be permitted to display holiday decorations on their desks, but not on their office doors or in common spaces. Traditional workplace Christmas parties are not an issue at FGCU.

"We don't generally have Christmas parties here," said Audrea Anderson, associate vice president for community relations and marketing. "There are end-of-the-semester parties or end-of-the-calendar-year parties. They are certainly not related to anyone's beliefs."

Bradshaw plans to convene a committee in 2009 to address future methods of sharing traditions throughout the year.

In 2001, then-President William Merwin lit the university's official Christmas tree, a 22-foot Colorado blue spruce. Children from the college's child care center and university choir performed traditional carols.

Junior Marilyn Lerner, a 20-year-old resort and hospitality management major from California, said she'll miss seeing Christmas trees in the Student Union.

"I think they're pretty," said Lerner, who is Jewish. "It's just a Christmas tree. I don't mind."

Neither does junior Stephanie Tirado, 20, an education major from New York.

"Christmas is no longer just a religious holiday. It's commercialized now," said Tirado, who is Wiccan. "Why don't they just add a menorah then?"

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Tue 11/25/08 03:25 PM

So much for letting people celebrate THEIR holy holidays...right? Whatever happened to live & let live. OOPS! I forgot...that for the politically correect only & all others need not apply. Same old story with these loonies. the only commercializing I see are from the gobless who want everyone else to be equally as miserable as they are. Bah Humbug to them.

Ho, ho, nope! FGCU to limit holiday decor

Christmas is just 30 days away, but Santa Claus won't be stopping by Florida Gulf Coast University this holiday.


He's not allowed on campus.

FGCU administration has banned all holiday decorations from common spaces on campus and canceled a popular greeting card design contest, which is being replaced by an ugly sweater competition. In Griffin Hall, the university's giving tree for needy preschoolers has been transformed into a "giving garden."

The moves boil down to political correctness.

"Public institutions, including FGCU, often struggle with how best to observe the season in ways that honor and respect all traditions," President Wilson Bradshaw wrote in a memo to faculty and staff Thursday. "This is a challenging issue each year at FGCU, and 2008 is no exception. While it may appear at times that a vocal majority of opinion is the only view that is held, this is not always the case."

Bradshaw's directive struck a chord with FGCU employees. The Staff Advisory Council received 44 anonymous comments on the issue; all were against the ban on holiday decorations.

"It says people are very passionate about this," said council president Ruth Rodrigues, who also is director of auxiliary services. "The holidays are a joyous time, and they want to express themselves."

The council voted Monday to send administration a letter outlining employees' comments.

In Bradshaw's memo, he said the decision was not an "attempt to suppress expression of the holiday spirit." Staffers will be permitted to display holiday decorations on their desks, but not on their office doors or in common spaces. Traditional workplace Christmas parties are not an issue at FGCU.

"We don't generally have Christmas parties here," said Audrea Anderson, associate vice president for community relations and marketing. "There are end-of-the-semester parties or end-of-the-calendar-year parties. They are certainly not related to anyone's beliefs."

Bradshaw plans to convene a committee in 2009 to address future methods of sharing traditions throughout the year.

In 2001, then-President William Merwin lit the university's official Christmas tree, a 22-foot Colorado blue spruce. Children from the college's child care center and university choir performed traditional carols.

Junior Marilyn Lerner, a 20-year-old resort and hospitality management major from California, said she'll miss seeing Christmas trees in the Student Union.

"I think they're pretty," said Lerner, who is Jewish. "It's just a Christmas tree. I don't mind."

Neither does junior Stephanie Tirado, 20, an education major from New York.

"Christmas is no longer just a religious holiday. It's commercialized now," said Tirado, who is Wiccan. "Why don't they just add a menorah then?"

See what happens when you bring religion into politics..

noblenan's photo
Tue 11/25/08 03:34 PM
Since when was Santa Claus and a Christmas tree considered "religious" decoration? slaphead
Maybe it's a safety issue!

glasses


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Tue 11/25/08 03:38 PM
"gobless" is that a mute turkey?laugh

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Tue 11/25/08 03:42 PM
Edited by Unknow on Tue 11/25/08 03:43 PM

Since when was Santa Claus and a Christmas tree considered "religious" decoration? slaphead
Maybe it's a safety issue!

glasses


I didn't bring religion into it. It seems that people that always do get a little defensive when it goes against them..JMO

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Tue 11/25/08 03:46 PM


Since when was Santa Claus and a Christmas tree considered "religious" decoration? slaphead
Maybe it's a safety issue!

glasses


I didn't bring religion into it. It seems that people that always do get a little defensive when it goes against them..JMO


(whispering) That was kinda my point...

glasses

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 11/25/08 04:08 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Tue 11/25/08 04:19 PM
:smile: I just wanna give this some historical perspective on Secular Humanism.:smile:If it wasnt for secular humanism,we would still be burning women at the stake for being witches, having arranged marriages,owning slaves, and living in the dark ages.:smile:Secular Humanism has done a LOT of good in this world.flowerforyou

Lindyy's photo
Tue 11/25/08 04:17 PM


So much for letting people celebrate THEIR holy holidays...right? Whatever happened to live & let live. OOPS! I forgot...that for the politically correect only & all others need not apply. Same old story with these loonies. the only commercializing I see are from the gobless who want everyone else to be equally as miserable as they are. Bah Humbug to them.

Ho, ho, nope! FGCU to limit holiday decor

Christmas is just 30 days away, but Santa Claus won't be stopping by Florida Gulf Coast University this holiday.


He's not allowed on campus.

FGCU administration has banned all holiday decorations from common spaces on campus and canceled a popular greeting card design contest, which is being replaced by an ugly sweater competition. In Griffin Hall, the university's giving tree for needy preschoolers has been transformed into a "giving garden."

The moves boil down to political correctness.

"Public institutions, including FGCU, often struggle with how best to observe the season in ways that honor and respect all traditions," President Wilson Bradshaw wrote in a memo to faculty and staff Thursday. "This is a challenging issue each year at FGCU, and 2008 is no exception. While it may appear at times that a vocal majority of opinion is the only view that is held, this is not always the case."

Bradshaw's directive struck a chord with FGCU employees. The Staff Advisory Council received 44 anonymous comments on the issue; all were against the ban on holiday decorations.

"It says people are very passionate about this," said council president Ruth Rodrigues, who also is director of auxiliary services. "The holidays are a joyous time, and they want to express themselves."

The council voted Monday to send administration a letter outlining employees' comments.

In Bradshaw's memo, he said the decision was not an "attempt to suppress expression of the holiday spirit." Staffers will be permitted to display holiday decorations on their desks, but not on their office doors or in common spaces. Traditional workplace Christmas parties are not an issue at FGCU.

"We don't generally have Christmas parties here," said Audrea Anderson, associate vice president for community relations and marketing. "There are end-of-the-semester parties or end-of-the-calendar-year parties. They are certainly not related to anyone's beliefs."

Bradshaw plans to convene a committee in 2009 to address future methods of sharing traditions throughout the year.

In 2001, then-President William Merwin lit the university's official Christmas tree, a 22-foot Colorado blue spruce. Children from the college's child care center and university choir performed traditional carols.

Junior Marilyn Lerner, a 20-year-old resort and hospitality management major from California, said she'll miss seeing Christmas trees in the Student Union.

"I think they're pretty," said Lerner, who is Jewish. "It's just a Christmas tree. I don't mind."

Neither does junior Stephanie Tirado, 20, an education major from New York.

"Christmas is no longer just a religious holiday. It's commercialized now," said Tirado, who is Wiccan. "Why don't they just add a menorah then?"

See what happens when you bring religion into politics..


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Quikstepper's photo
Tue 11/25/08 04:45 PM



So much for letting people celebrate THEIR holy holidays...right? Whatever happened to live & let live. OOPS! I forgot...that for the politically correect only & all others need not apply. Same old story with these loonies. the only commercializing I see are from the gobless who want everyone else to be equally as miserable as they are. Bah Humbug to them.

Ho, ho, nope! FGCU to limit holiday decor

Christmas is just 30 days away, but Santa Claus won't be stopping by Florida Gulf Coast University this holiday.


He's not allowed on campus.

FGCU administration has banned all holiday decorations from common spaces on campus and canceled a popular greeting card design contest, which is being replaced by an ugly sweater competition. In Griffin Hall, the university's giving tree for needy preschoolers has been transformed into a "giving garden."

The moves boil down to political correctness.

"Public institutions, including FGCU, often struggle with how best to observe the season in ways that honor and respect all traditions," President Wilson Bradshaw wrote in a memo to faculty and staff Thursday. "This is a challenging issue each year at FGCU, and 2008 is no exception. While it may appear at times that a vocal majority of opinion is the only view that is held, this is not always the case."

Bradshaw's directive struck a chord with FGCU employees. The Staff Advisory Council received 44 anonymous comments on the issue; all were against the ban on holiday decorations.

"It says people are very passionate about this," said council president Ruth Rodrigues, who also is director of auxiliary services. "The holidays are a joyous time, and they want to express themselves."

The council voted Monday to send administration a letter outlining employees' comments.

In Bradshaw's memo, he said the decision was not an "attempt to suppress expression of the holiday spirit." Staffers will be permitted to display holiday decorations on their desks, but not on their office doors or in common spaces. Traditional workplace Christmas parties are not an issue at FGCU.

"We don't generally have Christmas parties here," said Audrea Anderson, associate vice president for community relations and marketing. "There are end-of-the-semester parties or end-of-the-calendar-year parties. They are certainly not related to anyone's beliefs."

Bradshaw plans to convene a committee in 2009 to address future methods of sharing traditions throughout the year.

In 2001, then-President William Merwin lit the university's official Christmas tree, a 22-foot Colorado blue spruce. Children from the college's child care center and university choir performed traditional carols.

Junior Marilyn Lerner, a 20-year-old resort and hospitality management major from California, said she'll miss seeing Christmas trees in the Student Union.

"I think they're pretty," said Lerner, who is Jewish. "It's just a Christmas tree. I don't mind."

Neither does junior Stephanie Tirado, 20, an education major from New York.

"Christmas is no longer just a religious holiday. It's commercialized now," said Tirado, who is Wiccan. "Why don't they just add a menorah then?"

See what happens when you bring religion into politics..


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LOL...lindyy...some people just don't get the digressive secular mindnumb idiocies.

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Tue 11/25/08 04:51 PM



Since when was Santa Claus and a Christmas tree considered "religious" decoration? slaphead
Maybe it's a safety issue!

glasses


I didn't bring religion into it. It seems that people that always do get a little defensive when it goes against them..JMO


(whispering) That was kinda my point...

glasses
flowerforyou flowerforyou

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Tue 11/25/08 04:51 PM



So much for letting people celebrate THEIR holy holidays...right? Whatever happened to live & let live. OOPS! I forgot...that for the politically correect only & all others need not apply. Same old story with these loonies. the only commercializing I see are from the gobless who want everyone else to be equally as miserable as they are. Bah Humbug to them.

Ho, ho, nope! FGCU to limit holiday decor

Christmas is just 30 days away, but Santa Claus won't be stopping by Florida Gulf Coast University this holiday.


He's not allowed on campus.

FGCU administration has banned all holiday decorations from common spaces on campus and canceled a popular greeting card design contest, which is being replaced by an ugly sweater competition. In Griffin Hall, the university's giving tree for needy preschoolers has been transformed into a "giving garden."

The moves boil down to political correctness.

"Public institutions, including FGCU, often struggle with how best to observe the season in ways that honor and respect all traditions," President Wilson Bradshaw wrote in a memo to faculty and staff Thursday. "This is a challenging issue each year at FGCU, and 2008 is no exception. While it may appear at times that a vocal majority of opinion is the only view that is held, this is not always the case."

Bradshaw's directive struck a chord with FGCU employees. The Staff Advisory Council received 44 anonymous comments on the issue; all were against the ban on holiday decorations.

"It says people are very passionate about this," said council president Ruth Rodrigues, who also is director of auxiliary services. "The holidays are a joyous time, and they want to express themselves."

The council voted Monday to send administration a letter outlining employees' comments.

In Bradshaw's memo, he said the decision was not an "attempt to suppress expression of the holiday spirit." Staffers will be permitted to display holiday decorations on their desks, but not on their office doors or in common spaces. Traditional workplace Christmas parties are not an issue at FGCU.

"We don't generally have Christmas parties here," said Audrea Anderson, associate vice president for community relations and marketing. "There are end-of-the-semester parties or end-of-the-calendar-year parties. They are certainly not related to anyone's beliefs."

Bradshaw plans to convene a committee in 2009 to address future methods of sharing traditions throughout the year.

In 2001, then-President William Merwin lit the university's official Christmas tree, a 22-foot Colorado blue spruce. Children from the college's child care center and university choir performed traditional carols.

Junior Marilyn Lerner, a 20-year-old resort and hospitality management major from California, said she'll miss seeing Christmas trees in the Student Union.

"I think they're pretty," said Lerner, who is Jewish. "It's just a Christmas tree. I don't mind."

Neither does junior Stephanie Tirado, 20, an education major from New York.

"Christmas is no longer just a religious holiday. It's commercialized now," said Tirado, who is Wiccan. "Why don't they just add a menorah then?"

See what happens when you bring religion into politics..


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Lindyy's photo
Tue 11/25/08 04:53 PM



"I think they're pretty," said Lerner, who is Jewish. "It's just a Christmas tree. I don't mind."

Neither does junior Stephanie Tirado, 20, an education major from New York.

"Christmas is no longer just a religious holiday. It's commercialized now," said Tirado, who is Wiccan. "Why don't they just add a menorah then?"

See what happens when you bring religion into politics..


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LOL...lindyy...some people just don't get the digressive secular mindnumb idiocies.


I DO NOT THINK THEY KNOW THE MEANING OF "SECULAR PROGRESSIVE"slaphead

Quikstepper's photo
Tue 11/25/08 04:58 PM




"I think they're pretty," said Lerner, who is Jewish. "It's just a Christmas tree. I don't mind."

Neither does junior Stephanie Tirado, 20, an education major from New York.

"Christmas is no longer just a religious holiday. It's commercialized now," said Tirado, who is Wiccan. "Why don't they just add a menorah then?"

See what happens when you bring religion into politics..


??????????????????????????????????????????????????



LOL...lindyy...some people just don't get the digressive secular mindnumb idiocies.


I DO NOT THINK THEY KNOW THE MEANING OF "SECULAR PROGRESSIVE"slaphead


No...they believe digressing is progressing. LOL

It's so funny that it's sad. laugh

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Tue 11/25/08 05:00 PM
Edited by Unknow on Tue 11/25/08 05:03 PM
opps

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Tue 11/25/08 05:04 PM




"I think they're pretty," said Lerner, who is Jewish. "It's just a Christmas tree. I don't mind."

Neither does junior Stephanie Tirado, 20, an education major from New York.

"Christmas is no longer just a religious holiday. It's commercialized now," said Tirado, who is Wiccan. "Why don't they just add a menorah then?"

See what happens when you bring religion into politics..


??????????????????????????????????????????????????



LOL...lindyy...some people just don't get the digressive secular mindnumb idiocies.


I DO NOT THINK THEY KNOW THE MEANING OF "SECULAR PROGRESSIVE"slaphead
I believe I do and I personally believe church should not be involved with anything dealing with state. Of course that's honest opinion

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Tue 11/25/08 05:05 PM





"I think they're pretty," said Lerner, who is Jewish. "It's just a Christmas tree. I don't mind."

Neither does junior Stephanie Tirado, 20, an education major from New York.

"Christmas is no longer just a religious holiday. It's commercialized now," said Tirado, who is Wiccan. "Why don't they just add a menorah then?"

See what happens when you bring religion into politics..


??????????????????????????????????????????????????



LOL...lindyy...some people just don't get the digressive secular mindnumb idiocies.


I DO NOT THINK THEY KNOW THE MEANING OF "SECULAR PROGRESSIVE"slaphead


No...they believe digressing is progressing. LOL

It's so funny that it's sad. laugh
I believe I do and I personally believe church should not be involved with anything dealing with state. Of course that's honest opinion

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Tue 11/25/08 05:08 PM
I don't think I understand the meaning of digressive secular mindnumb idiocies

Quikstepper's photo
Tue 11/25/08 05:11 PM

I don't think I understand the meaning of digressive secular mindnumb idiocies


awwww.... laugh

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Tue 11/25/08 05:16 PM

I don't think I understand the meaning of digressive secular mindnumb idiocies
see secularity (disambiguation) .

George Jacob Holyoake (1817-1906), British writer who coined the term "secularism."Look up secularism in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.Secularism is generally the assertion that governmental practices or institutions should exist separately from religion or religious beliefs. Alternatively, it is a principle of promoting secular ideas or values in either public or private settings over religious ways of thought.

In one sense, secularism may assert the right to be free from religious rule and teachings, and freedom from the government imposition of religion upon the people, within a state that is neutral on matters of belief, and gives no state privileges or subsidies to religions
Theres secularism may be they will explain the rest..Tho Im a firm beleif there needs to be a complete seperation of church and state so I dont see where it applies to me.

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Tue 11/25/08 05:17 PM
Edited by Unknow on Tue 11/25/08 05:19 PM

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