Law is supposed to be unequivocal, so there should be nothing to interpret.



Wrong. The law addressed it. The Constitution HAD to be amended to make itself consistent with the law. It was the realization the common law had been wrong that forced a change in the common law. It didn't become unlawful because somebody passed a "law" on a piece of paper; it just finally dawned on people (after thousands of years) that it was morally wrong to make property out of people.

Of course, those sneaky bankster lackey legislators found a way to make slaves out of them again...legally...not just black ones this time, but practically everybody; but that's a whole 'nother story having to do with banks, businessmen, avaricious or fearful legislators and of course a people's natural propensity to lie to themselves.



Maybe just ask a few questions of the suspicious character (if he has the time or inclination) & if he doesn't feel like talking there isn't much anybody can do.



Just asking nicely probably wouldn't work, because if he was a terrorist, he wouldn't tell you anything and if he wasn't, he wouldn't tell you anything, so either way, questioning wouldn't be very informative.

I wouldn't recommend telling them you're watching them, because if I was told that, I'd give them an immediate cease & desist order, which if not obeyed would result in a civil suit for harassment.

The SOLUTION, is to let the citizens protect themselves like they have since time immemorial. You are about 5 times as likely to be struck by lightning as to be killed by a terrorist, so I see the terrorist threat as kind of a low priority. The trillions your government is spending figting terrorism would be better spent buying people portable lightning rods...it would save a lot more lives for a lot less money.

You must've been on the board for GM in the old days eh?

Just the same, if you're offering him as a replacement for that stupid fascist slug we currently have, I'll be more than happy to take him.

I always liked Ralph, all the way back to the "one car accident" Corvairs of the early sixties. You people in the US probably weren't privy to the CBC interview he did recently in Canada. You should listen to it. Better yet, maybe you should listen to HIM.

[url}http://www.cbc.ca/q/blog/2013/08/01/ralph-nader/index.html

Here's the audio:

http://www.cbc.ca/q/popupaudio.html?clipIds=2399010382#

THE PEOPLE! (not the banks)...They are the initial creators of value (money). That's the way the system currently works...The people create the money (value), and the banks rob them of it using legalized fraud. Why not just let the people keep the wealth of their production?

The word "unreasonable" doesn't leave room for interpretation in law. Law is based on reason and logic. The judge is supposed to be the quintessential "reasonable man" you hear so much about. (of course I know of some judges who are about as "reasonable" as a drunken lynch mob, but that's another story.)

I guess the reason bugs,taps & emails weren't written into the constitution probably had something to do with the fact that sophisticated electronics & the internet (or even the words we assign to them) didn't exist at the time. I suppose the reason they never went into a constitutional amendment was because the reason for the law was so clear to any reasonable person that they probably questioned having to even write it down in the first place. Ergo, if it is not clear to you what the law means, you are not a reasonable person...good thing you aren't a judge or a cop, or you'd probably be hanging or searching or shooting people on "suspicion" and without probable cause.

Yes monitoring classifies as a "search" of one's home. Read a legal dictionary.

How do you know?

I think it's time the herd got it thru its collective head to quit following a leader to the slaughterhouse and all decided together as individuals to abandon the leader-ship, turn around and start a stampede of their own...in the opposite direction.

Maybe a national referendum to change their monetary system & kick out the banks? That'd be a step in the right direction, after all, the country belongs to its people...They should be the ones who decide on what to do with it, not some crooked administration working for the international banking cartel.

We've all seen where "follow the leader has gotten us!

I say it's time that The People took the reigns of power away from the criminals. This implies a DUTY on the part of EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU to do just that. Note that a failure to do your duty at this point does NOT bode well for the future!

The ball is now in the peoples' court...Are you as an individual component of a UNITED FREE PEOPLE going to make an ace serve, or are you just going to lie down and beg for mercy like a whipped slave because you're afraid you'll get "in trouble" with your master??

I think they're turning on the crooked government itself. Obama's bad, but he's just a stooge. Nobody seriously believes he's the man in charge.

This vid more or less tells the story of how the USA became the USSA:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKwO1onXAaI&feature=player_embedded

Hey, I only asked. In point of fact I already knew about Delta flight 1989...It WAS mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report, BTW...I just wanted to see how people responded to the question for research purposes.

Yeah I know...But all I'm seeing is a lot of talk and no action. It seems almost everyone would rather see the economy like a sword of Damocles over their heads. Instead of doing something about it or walking out from under, it's like they're paralyzed with fear and simply cower under it, hoping it won't fall on their heads.

Just as a note of trivia, Canada had forced sterilization of people considered "incompetent" until the 1970's ! (In fact, I think we invented the eugenics concept so eagerly adopted by the US & Germany and the forced sterilization that went with it.)

I remember the story of one Polish woman, who was forcibly sterilized and confined to a mental institution for years...All because she couldn't speak proper English!

What do you mean "if"?...The country collapsed quite a while back; he's just presiding over its dismantling.

Good article!

Why do you keep ranting about conspiracy theories and more than one fifth plane?

Obviously another "fifth" plane would be a sixth plane, wouldn't it? How many planes were reported hijacked that day? I counted five; how many did you count?

What makes you think the investigation into the fifth plane reported hijacked didn't lead anywhere? Wasn't it mentioned in the 9/11 Commission report?

Why are you so hot not to give me a simple answer to my simple question?

What happened to the fifth plane that was reported in the news to be hijacked on 9/11?

What is so hard about that simple question??

Yeah, pretty much just Tom, Dick, Harry and maybe aa few more of The Sovereign People could create a lawful investigative Grand Jury. In fact tey'd have to, since, as you just poited out, you'll never get the crooks in the government to do it!

There was no "appealing" to government authority in 1776 either. I note that it didn't stop The People from creating a lawful Declaration of Independence.

The question REALLY is, who has the lawful sovereign power in the US...The People, or the crooks that run the joint?



Don't be silly. I'd call it me sending a letter demanding they "show cause",and if they couldn't, I'd get their lawful agreement that they committed treason. It would be in the nature of an agreement with (the tacit confession of) each of the treasonous congressmen. Having that confession, I could then lay charges of treason in a Crown court (oops...I guess in the US it would be a People's Court of some kind...Disrict Court?...Superior court? (not a Federal court...that'd be the same crooked deal we have in Canada, UNDER the government's jurisdiction instead of OVER it)...Maybe even Judge Judy's court, though I'd rather see that Napolitano guy issuing the arrest warrants...I think he's got the jam to do it.)

There'd be no need for a grand Jury or "Commission of Inquiry" to investigate, since we'd already have their confessions to treason. We could go straight to trial after the arrests (and they be nuts not to plead guilty, since they've already confessed their guilt on the record.



Hey...Don't complain to me...You guys voted for them...If you don't like it, yank them out of office & jail them!

Who's the GJ and why can't the warrant be issued by any superior court?

Don't make assumptions about the corrupt system not cooperating. I'm pretty certain it would. (and I know the kind of criminals in it that you're dealing with...we have them up here too...but not for much longer. LMAO)

So what do they call it when a citizen arranges for the court to issue an arrest warrant for a congressman and the cops walk into congress & pull him out of his seat & cart him off to jail?

That's cute Conrad...I have to give you an "A" for effort, but you just keep proving how valid the OP study was every time you post.

You know perfectly well I know nothing about a conspiracy theory about a "series" of fifth planes (if such an animal even exists); I just had a simple and logical question about fifth plane that was heavily reported in the news that day and then suddenly "disappeared" from the newscasts without so much as an explanation, or a "Wham, bam; thank you ma'am!"...What do they call that?...A red herring fallacy?

If the inconsistencies exist in the minds of the "Truthers" then it would appear that the "truthers" are intelligent & logical people, because I see loads of them in the official line on just about anything from vote counts in elections to a casus belli for a war & everything in between. Funny isn't it how nothing a politician says is to be believed or at all trusted unless it's a crime so horrendous that only a politician could commit it, so he is suddenly so wonderful that he'd never do this to his own people eh? Just like Obama and his drone program. He has been documented to have whacked US citizens with them extrajudicially (isn't that murder?), ut no...He wouldn't do that!...Yeah right...he only authorized it, he didn't fly the damn things.

As for the "proven wrong" crap you just tried to feed everyone, I know you weren't talking to me since I wasn't telling any stories, but it was a cute little tidbit of fallacious innuendo for the unsophisticated has-to-be-watered-twice-a-week mind(?) to chew on. Too bad there are only a few of them on here eh?