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Happy Now?
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so sweet to see the ultra rightist suffering.
America spoke, and she said stop the lies of the neo cons. |
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Stupidity and Religion
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yeah, you tell me after 13 years there.
from kinder garden all the way up to the senior year of high school. in a south american country where the parents actually supported them in spanking us. and after i got spanked at school they sent a note to my house, and I got spanked again by my dad. However, looking back in time from where i stand now, I think that if they would not have been as strict as they were I would not have been the person I am, right now. I'm not saying I'm perfect, but I could have been worse. Thus, in a way very deep deep inside me I guess I'm grateful. |
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Stupidity and Religion
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I would agree with that statement absolutely TLW. Though Christianity is just not going to work for me on a personal level (I messed around with Catholicism) my real concern is that ANY fundamentalist theology carries with it the potentiality for hatred and abuse. Christianity, Islam, Judaism, even Buddhism which we always imagine to be so passive. Humans possess an uncanny ability to manipulate and distort whatever they want in order that it serve them and their own personal agendas and its very dangerous and people need to be aware of that. therefore, an inquiring mind must question everything, and make his/her own conclusions. I'm not a catholic because I was taught since I was child. I had my rebelious time with catholicism and christianity in general after 13 years of catholic education with old italian priest who spanked us if we did not have a right hair cut or the shirt was not in a proper position. However, seriously studying several doctrines within and without christianity, I could not find any other thing that would make sense to me than the catholic doctrine which I believe it's an original development direct from the time of the apostles. |
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Stupidity and Religion
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Discussion of the topic of religion, more than any other topic, enlightens me about how willfully and stubbornly stupid some people can and are quite proud to be... At great lengths, the effort is made to put the fear of hell into children when they have not yet developed critical thinking skills and will believe anything mummy, daddy and grown-ups say. By the time they grow up to develop and employ critical thinking skills to every other facet of life (hopefully) they fear a hell and are brainwashed from a young age so skillfully to crave a heaven that they put up that mental block between they're normal intelligent thought process and religion. Even questioning it is frowned upon as not "having faith" as is the self-preservationist clause inherent in it. Such people are past the ability to look at religion reasonably and will always fear questioning something they grew up being taught and what they're parents grew up being taught etc etc. To think "just because some thing has always been thought to be true, does it make it true?" is a hell sentence to some. I am not interested in debating such people who can not and who will not think for themselves and are willfully and stubbornly ignorant. if there is somebody teaching children about God through fear of hell. that person is not a christian. that person may be a fundie, but not a christian. This individual must be living at least on a 100 years ago reality which does not fit christianity whasoever. If somebody does not start teaching a child about God under the only premise that God loves him, this is person is wrong. Real christianity with no distorsions teaches that God loves us each one of us on an unlimited manner. That is the only premise which is needed to teach religion either to a child or an adult. Any other thing is not christianity or a distorted view of christianity. as i have said before: FUNDAMENTALISM leads to FANATISM and FANATISM leads to TERRORISM. TLW |
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Happy Birthday, Eileen!
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happy birthday my good friend
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no, there is not much a difference. Jesus Christ is my God, Lord, and Savior. Yes, I personally need to be saved by my Lord.
How does that affect you personally? If it does not affect you, then what is the purpose of this thread. You are above the slavery in which apparently christians are from your point of view. Are you in some sort of crusade to save christians of this sort of slavery? Probably, you may want to become in some sort of cyber savior of all these christian slaves. |
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I say that they do not. The idea that you have "been given the gift of "free will" by god" is bogus because it is the current concept of a creator god who demands obedience or else that makes it crystal clear that he does not condone or give freedom or "free will" to anyone. On the contrary, your creator god seeks to place you in bondage and servitude to him whether it be Jehovah, Satan, Jesus, Allah, or who ever. The Christian God demands that "The wages of sin is death." He also claims that "all have sinned and come short of the glory of god." Therefore all are condemned to die. If you believe this, then it shows you the reason why you have been convinced that you need a savior. This savior is saving you from the condemnation of and by your very own creator who is supposed to be your loving father. And yet, Christians will tell you that Jesus, the savior is God. How can the "savior" be the same person as the one who has condemned you? These are logical and legitimate questions. You have heard and probably believe that "free will" involves the choice to follow Jesus or not. That's it. NO other options. That is not what the Will is at all. The Will is the power of self direction and it is inherent in all living conscious things. No creator god can take that from you or claim to have given it to you. A creator god can and will try to convince you that your choice is limited. He will tell you that you can choose to be saved and serve him or you can serve in Hell and die. Some choice Huh? JB once again the logic and the reasoning are quite perfect. However, once again all the perfection in the logic and reasoning falls apart because everything starts with a fallacy: "God condemns you." There is something call natural law which is imprinted in the human soul this the moral code which allows man to decide between good and evil (free will). This natural law comes into action regardless of religions just because our soul is created on the image and likeness of God. Since man has the capacity to decide his behavior based upon this intrinsic natural law when man decides to go against it, is when man condemns himself. Ergo, it follows that God does not condemn man, man condemns himself. TLW Not according to what many Christians have stated. "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God." "The wages of sin is death." So commanded God. Hence all are condemned to death and are in need of a savior. If I have been told anything at all by Christians it is that everyone is a sinner and that everyone needs to be saved and the no one is without sin. This is the assumption of course. So we are already sinners. Our only choice is to do more sinning... and to purposely live a life of more and more sin. But even if we do not purposely sin, we are still labeled sinners. Is your religion any different? JB Have I call you or anybody here a sinner? sin and evil are concepts which are real but I apply it to myself. There is the basic difference between me and most christians, I don't go around calling sinners others. I have enough with mine. After all faith (not religion) is a matter between the individual and God. What I do here is to show that christianity is not the view that fundies show. |
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James:
First of all, all what I write is based on the Bible and my interpretation goes according to the Catholic Church. Second of all, i never dondemn anybody. I always say that people can believe in flying pigs if they want to. So my friend if you are happy the way you are, I'm also happy. Third of all, your interpretations in what the Bible say are really coming from a fundies background. |
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why is telling
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an omnipotent being that we love him sufficent reason for getting into heaven? it's not just telling, but really believing and feeling the love from Him and to Him through our brothers and sisters here on earth. If it's not done this way it's empty. It's like the fundies who go to a revival and say the prayer and they think they are saved, yet they keep preaching hate to those who they must love the most their brothers and sisters. All these based upon a pharisaic interpretation of the Holy Scripture. |
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The Spiritual Fast track...
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I know that Miguel has tried extremely hard to do this, but even when he has done this he has been shot at by Christians who refute his interpretations. That is the basic problem with christianity extreme fundamentalists who think that they alone have the word of God. However, this has been a problem in the Universal Church since its very beginning, yet the Church is still strong due to the fact that: "when two or more are reunited in my name I will be there with them." What more power than that to sustain the Church. |
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I say that they do not. The idea that you have "been given the gift of "free will" by god" is bogus because it is the current concept of a creator god who demands obedience or else that makes it crystal clear that he does not condone or give freedom or "free will" to anyone. On the contrary, your creator god seeks to place you in bondage and servitude to him whether it be Jehovah, Satan, Jesus, Allah, or who ever. The Christian God demands that "The wages of sin is death." He also claims that "all have sinned and come short of the glory of god." Therefore all are condemned to die. If you believe this, then it shows you the reason why you have been convinced that you need a savior. This savior is saving you from the condemnation of and by your very own creator who is supposed to be your loving father. And yet, Christians will tell you that Jesus, the savior is God. How can the "savior" be the same person as the one who has condemned you? These are logical and legitimate questions. You have heard and probably believe that "free will" involves the choice to follow Jesus or not. That's it. NO other options. That is not what the Will is at all. The Will is the power of self direction and it is inherent in all living conscious things. No creator god can take that from you or claim to have given it to you. A creator god can and will try to convince you that your choice is limited. He will tell you that you can choose to be saved and serve him or you can serve in Hell and die. Some choice Huh? JB once again the logic and the reasoning are quite perfect. However, once again all the perfection in the logic and reasoning falls apart because everything starts with a fallacy: "God condemns you." There is something call natural law which is imprinted in the human soul this the moral code which allows man to decide between good and evil (free will). This natural law comes into action regardless of religions just because our soul is created on the image and likeness of God. Since man has the capacity to decide his behavior based upon this intrinsic natural law when man decides to go against it, is when man condemns himself. Ergo, it follows that God does not condemn man, man condemns himself. TLW |
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well it seems that ------
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i saw a new fundie around posting scripture like crazy.
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well it seems that ------
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i won't fall in the vicious cycle my friend.
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the reps are responsibles for the mess we have now.
A nonsensical war and chaotic economy which is destroying the country. |
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What will we eat in Heaven?
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a very silly and naive question indeed.
how could it be possible for a being without a body to have the need to eat? |
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Nobody agrees completely...
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why should we have to agree all the time?
It would be so boring. It wouldn't be as funny as it is now, to see the things that some people have to say. |
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This is the typical example of the fundamentalist who quotes the Bible just to show that everything is evil and we are all cursed.
FUNDAMENTALISM LEADS TO FANATISM AND FANATISM LEADS TO TERRORISMS. scary indeed. |
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quoting and quoting the Holy Scripture without giving an interpretation as to what the individual wants to say with those quotations is empty.
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Symbolism
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who am i?
what the people think about, or what i think about me, or what I really am/ |
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Repentance
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TLW: personal agendas are set aside in order to try to reach the common good... See... I believe this is completely within the realm of possibility. You are very possitive person. That is a good thing. If we had more people like you in this world. It would be more a livable place. If I couldn't see this as possible, I'd just have to give up. Why bother... Mankind will probably have to truly be brought to it's knees to set all self-serving aside to reach a common good. Standing by for spontaneous shift in consciousness... agreed |
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