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Topic: questions that believers are afraid to answer - part 2
funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/30/08 02:03 PM
that is why they say ...For all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God... but "imageorgiagirl"..then that would mean that christian believers are not following the teachings of Jesus Not true...it just means we are all human and do our best to follow the teachings of Jesus at all times...we are not perfect though by any means. Sometimes we all fall short... then that makes the teachings of Jesus no different than the teachings of spiderman

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/30/08 02:11 PM
Most of the time I do leave the vengeance up to the Lord but in this situation...I would probably kick some butt of my own too. I would be sinning to try and save my child. God would understand that I wasn't doing this to spite his commandments. so "imageorgiagirl" what if other people didn't want to save your child that wasn't a bomber oe evil would you kick their butt also? It would depend on the situation and how I percieved it. if the people have done nothing wrong then why would you kick their butts just because they won't save your child...maybe that is the same reasoning why the bomber snapped and blew up the school children

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/30/08 02:19 PM
If it was someone I didn't know and they were being an ass about it then yes "Imageorgiagirl"...now you are placing yourself into the role of God and extracting vengeance ..isn't that what the bomber was doing

iamgeorgiagirl Joined Tue 12/04/07 Posts: 1288	Wed 01/30/08 02:28 PM
that is why they say ...For all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God... but "imageorgiagirl"..then that would mean that christian believers are not following the teachings of Jesus Not true...it just means we are all human and do our best to follow the teachings of Jesus at all times...we are not perfect though by any means. Sometimes we all fall short... then that makes the teachings of Jesus no different than the teachings of spiderman How could you even think that? It just means no one in the flesh is perfect and we should strive to follow the commandments and should ask for forgiveness when we fall short...move on and do our best not to sin deliberately.

iamgeorgiagirl Joined Tue 12/04/07 Posts: 1288	Wed 01/30/08 02:29 PM
Most of the time I do leave the vengeance up to the Lord but in this situation...I would probably kick some butt of my own too. I would be sinning to try and save my child. God would understand that I wasn't doing this to spite his commandments. so "imageorgiagirl" what if other people didn't want to save your child that wasn't a bomber oe evil would you kick their butt also? It would depend on the situation and how I percieved it. if the people have done nothing wrong then why would you kick their butts just because they won't save your child...maybe that is the same reasoning why the bomber snapped and blew up the school children If they did nothing wrong then I wouldn't have any reason to kick their butt.

iamgeorgiagirl Joined Tue 12/04/07 Posts: 1288	Wed 01/30/08 02:30 PM
Most of the time I do leave the vengeance up to the Lord but in this situation...I would probably kick some butt of my own too. I would be sinning to try and save my child. God would understand that I wasn't doing this to spite his commandments. so "imageorgiagirl" what if other people didn't want to save your child that wasn't a bomber oe evil would you kick their butt also? It would depend on the situation and how I percieved it. if the people have done nothing wrong then why would you kick their butts just because they won't save your child...maybe that is the same reasoning why the bomber snapped and blew up the school children Could be...

iamgeorgiagirl Joined Tue 12/04/07 Posts: 1288	Wed 01/30/08 02:33 PM
If it was someone I didn't know and they were being an ass about it then yes "Imageorgiagirl"...now you are placing yourself into the role of God and extracting vengeance ..isn't that what the bomber was doing Maybe so but I am not perfect nor am I a robot. I can be forgiven too if I am truly remorseful about putting myself into that sin.

iamgeorgiagirl Joined Tue 12/04/07 Posts: 1288	Wed 01/30/08 02:36 PM Edited by iamgeorgiagirl on Wed 01/30/08 02:37 PM
Oh and God says that if anyone lays in wait to willfully commit murder then we should send them to him. TTYL I gotta' dinner date....

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/30/08 02:38 PM
that is why they say ...For all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God... but "imageorgiagirl"..then that would mean that christian believers are not following the teachings of Jesus Not true...it just means we are all human and do our best to follow the teachings of Jesus at all times...we are not perfect though by any means. Sometimes we all fall short... then that makes the teachings of Jesus no different than the teachings of spiderman How could you even think that? It just means no one in the flesh is perfect and we should strive to follow the commandments and should ask for forgiveness when we fall short...move on and do our best not to sin deliberately. then if the flesh is not perfect then what's the point of the teachings if excuses are going to be used and everything blamed on man's imperfections....that's something that God should be blamed for perhaps

iamgeorgiagirl Joined Tue 12/04/07 Posts: 1288	Wed 01/30/08 05:26 PM
that is why they say ...For all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God... but "imageorgiagirl"..then that would mean that christian believers are not following the teachings of Jesus Not true...it just means we are all human and do our best to follow the teachings of Jesus at all times...we are not perfect though by any means. Sometimes we all fall short... then that makes the teachings of Jesus no different than the teachings of spiderman How could you even think that? It just means no one in the flesh is perfect and we should strive to follow the commandments and should ask for forgiveness when we fall short...move on and do our best not to sin deliberately. then if the flesh is not perfect then what's the point of the teachings if excuses are going to be used and everything blamed on man's imperfections....that's something that God should be blamed for perhaps The flesh isn't perfect regardless of being a believer or not. The point of the bibles' teachings are so that we can learn to discern between right and wrong and try to do what is right, it shows us that God loves us, that there is eternal life and that if we have remorse when we do wrong and ask him to forgive us when we do wrong that we can still be saved. Even the evil bomber can be saved if he chooses and reaches out to God and does what is required to be forgiven. That is why God is the final judge and not me.

iamgeorgiagirl Joined Tue 12/04/07 Posts: 1288	Wed 01/30/08 05:44 PM
You see God made the evil bomber too. God loves all of his children and wants all of them to choose to love him, do right, and be saved. I would also have to forgive the evil bomber if I still wanted to be saved. Because that is part of loving thy neighbor. All I can do is choose for myself what I will do. God knows all that is in all of our hearts and he knows why we do the things that we do.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/30/08 05:47 PM
The flesh isn't perfect regardless of being a believer or not. The point of the bibles' teachings are so that we can learn to discern between right and wrong and try to do what is right, well "imageorgiagirl"..the reality is that only a psychotic sociaopathic serial killer could ever follow all the laws set forth by God and make it to Heaven and the average believer only pick and choose which of God laws to follow

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/30/08 05:56 PM
You see God made the evil bomber too. God loves all of his children and wants all of them to choose to love him, do right, and be saved. right ask God forgiveness but first kill all those on your hit list I would also have to forgive the evil bomber if I still wanted to be saved. Because that is part of loving thy neighbor. but "imageorgiagirl"..is this before or after you beat the hell out of him and turn him in to the authorities All I can do is choose for myself what I will do. God knows all that is in all of our hearts and he knows why we do the things that we do. well since he knows then he shouldn't send anyone to hell for doing it

iamgeorgiagirl Joined Tue 12/04/07 Posts: 1288	Wed 01/30/08 06:00 PM
The flesh isn't perfect regardless of being a believer or not. The point of the bibles' teachings are so that we can learn to discern between right and wrong and try to do what is right, well "imageorgiagirl"..the reality is that only a psychotic sociaopathic serial killer could ever follow all the laws set forth by God and make it to Heaven and the average believer only pick and choose which of God laws to follow Well I sure don't see how you could possibly come to that conclusion at all. On the contrary a psychotic sociaopathic serial killer would not be following the bible very much at all. The average believer tries his best to follow God's laws.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/30/08 06:12 PM
Well I sure don't see how you could possibly come to that conclusion at all. On the contrary a psychotic sociaopathic serial killer would not be following the bible very much at all. The average believer tries his best to follow God's laws. it's simple..a psychotic sociaopath when they hear the voice of God commanding them to do something will most likely do it without question...your average believer wouldn't and would just blame their failing to do so on their imperfections

iamgeorgiagirl Joined Tue 12/04/07 Posts: 1288	Wed 01/30/08 10:30 PM
The flesh isn't perfect regardless of being a believer or not. The point of the bibles' teachings are so that we can learn to discern between right and wrong and try to do what is right, well "imageorgiagirl"..the reality is that only a psychotic sociaopathic serial killer could ever follow all the laws set forth by God and make it to Heaven and the average believer only pick and choose which of God laws to follow That is crap and you know it!

PublicAnimalNo9 Joined Mon 09/04/06 Posts: 6278	Wed 01/30/08 10:42 PM
The flesh isn't perfect regardless of being a believer or not. The point of the bibles' teachings are so that we can learn to discern between right and wrong and try to do what is right, well "imageorgiagirl"..the reality is that only a psychotic sociaopathic serial killer could ever follow all the laws set forth by God and make it to Heaven and the average believer only pick and choose which of God laws to follow Whaa????? Man o man, don't you know, you can live the goodie two shoes life all yer life, it ain't a ticket to Heaven. The ONLY requirement to get into Heaven is to believe that Christ died on the cross for our sins. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No man may enter Heaven but by me." And the bit about psychopathic serial killers??? Dude, either yer a satanist or you have a SERIOUS case of cranial-rectal inversion cuz that has GOT to be just about the most stupid damn thing I have ever read. That is crap and you know it!

iamgeorgiagirl Joined Tue 12/04/07 Posts: 1288	Wed 01/30/08 11:22 PM
Well I sure don't see how you could possibly come to that conclusion at all. On the contrary a psychotic sociaopathic serial killer would not be following the bible very much at all. The average believer tries his best to follow God's laws. it's simple..a psychotic sociaopath when they hear the voice of God commanding them to do something will most likely do it without question...your average believer wouldn't and would just blame their failing to do so on their imperfections I am amazed that you would even say something like that...it is pure lunacy. I doubt that type of person would do anything God commanded them to do because he is already following Satan without question. The average believer is not a killer. They try not to sin. The average believer doesn't just blame their sins on their imperfections... they ackowledge them and try not to sin to start with and if they do sin they try and make atonement for that sin.

Abracadabra Joined Thu 04/12/07 Posts: 17851	Wed 01/30/08 11:27 PM
The ONLY requirement to get into Heaven is to believe that Christ died on the cross for our sins. Where does this come from? What denomination teaches this? I was Free Methodist and we were never taught any such thing. If you believe this then all you need to do is believe that Jesus died for your sins and you can run around looting, pillaging, and raping and it's all cool because you believe that Jesus died and already paid for all that crap. This sounds like pay-per-sin on cable Christianity. No wonder there's so much crime in the USA. It's all the Christians who believe that Jesus died to pay in advance so they can run around and sin for free. Thank God no one one in my family believes that crap. My family were all Free Methodists, and they believe then need to be goodie two shoes.

Differentkindofwench Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 5960	Wed 01/30/08 11:35 PM
The ONLY requirement to get into Heaven is to believe that Christ died on the cross for our sins. Where does this come from? What denomination teaches this? I was Free Methodist and we were never taught any such thing. If you believe this then all you need to do is believe that Jesus died for your sins and you can run around looting, pillaging, and raping and it's all cool because you believe that Jesus died and already paid for all that crap. This sounds like pay-per-sin on cable Christianity. No wonder there's so much crime in the USA. It's all the Christians who believe that Jesus died to pay in advance so they can run around and sin for free. Thank God no one one in my family believes that crap. My family were all Free Methodists, and they believe then need to be goodie two shoes. Point of interest, you left out the repenting, apparently, the feeling bad about it or admitting it was wrong comes into play in some cases "to clean the slate". Oh, yes, and trying not to do it again.