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| Topic: questions that believers are afraid to answer - part 2 | |
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That law doesn't say things can't fly. If it does then jumping would have defied the law, but it doesnt. The law of gravity is F=Gm1m2/d2 So where exactly does it say things can't fly? All they are doing is overcoming a force, but that force still exists. because none of the Laws of Physics are constant and have loopholes to be manipulated |
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Faith can refer to a religion, or to belief in one or more deities. It has two general implications which can be implied either exclusively or mutually: * To trust: o To commit oneself to act based on self experience to warrant belief, but without absolute proof.[1] Mere belief on the basis of evidence is not faith. To have faith involves an act of will. # To believe without reason: * Believing impulsively, or believing based upon social traditions or personal hopes. Nope you are wrong. Apparently believing is part of the definition of faith. "Chazster"...faith like trust only exist in the mind and not beyond it ...just because you trust doesn't means what or who you trust are trustworthy and just because you have faith in something doesn't make it truth beyond your mind |
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i never said it made it truth.
but let me ask you a hypothetical that has nothing to do with this. Would you torture one guilty man to save thousands of innocent lives? |
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i never said it made it truth. but let me ask you a hypothetical that has nothing to do with this. Would you torture one guilty man to save thousands of innocent lives? Better yet, would you torture one innocent to save thousands of regular people? |
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i never said it made it truth. but let me ask you a hypothetical that has nothing to do with this. Would you torture one guilty man to save thousands of innocent lives? wow talking about going off topic .....who says he was guily? and what is he guilty of ...and why the hack do I have to torture the person...I have a million questions about this |
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this thread is about questions that the religious will just close their minds to and refuse to answer or just afraid to answer because it will question their suppose faith or question that they just can't answer rationally ..here's the first one according to believers logic, God had to have created the universe because the universe couldn't have popped out of nothingness and create itself .....so therefore do the same logic apply to the creator if the answer is no then could you explain why with a rational explanation According to believers logic God created the universe And it couldn’t have popped out of nothingness and create itself So does the same logic apply to the creator? Yes the same logic would apply because most believers don’t believe either 2 entities popped out of nothingness and created themselves. Most believers believe that God is eternal and he created the universe they don't go into detail about how he did it.  |
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i never said it made it truth. but let me ask you a hypothetical that has nothing to do with this. Would you torture one guilty man to save thousands of innocent lives? wow talking about going off topic .....who says he was guily? and what is he guilty of ...and why the hack do I have to torture the person...I have a million questions about this Oh sorry, if he set a bomb in say a very large school and you have undeniable proof he did it, but you cant find the bomb and time is running out. Would you torture him to save the kids? It was just a question in another thread and people think i am crazy cause I value the kids lives more than that guys right to not be tortured. |
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this thread is about questions that the religious will just close their minds to and refuse to answer or just afraid to answer because it will question their suppose faith or question that they just can't answer rationally ..here's the first one according to believers logic, God had to have created the universe because the universe couldn't have popped out of nothingness and create itself .....so therefore do the same logic apply to the creator if the answer is no then could you explain why with a rational explanation According to believers logic God created the universe And it couldn’t have popped out of nothingness and create itself So does the same logic apply to the creator? Yes the same logic would apply because most believers don’t believe either 2 entities popped out of nothingness and created themselves. Most believers believe that God is eternal and he created the universe they don't go into detail about how he did it. "imageorgiagirl" just because God is eternal doesn't mean he doesn't have a creator...maybe his creator is pre-eternal |
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i never said it made it truth. but let me ask you a hypothetical that has nothing to do with this. Would you torture one guilty man to save thousands of innocent lives? wow talking about going off topic .....who says he was guily? and what is he guilty of ...and why the hack do I have to torture the person...I have a million questions about this Oh sorry, if he set a bomb in say a very large school and you have undeniable proof he did it, but you cant find the bomb and time is running out. Would you torture him to save the kids? It was just a question in another thread and people think i am crazy cause I value the kids lives more than that guys right to not be tortured. the time it takes to torture the guy then defuse the bomb could have been spent evacuating the kids out of the school |
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this thread is about questions that the religious will just close their minds to and refuse to answer or just afraid to answer because it will question their suppose faith or question that they just can't answer rationally ..here's the first one according to believers logic, God had to have created the universe because the universe couldn't have popped out of nothingness and create itself .....so therefore do the same logic apply to the creator if the answer is no then could you explain why with a rational explanation According to believers logic God created the universe And it couldn’t have popped out of nothingness and create itself So does the same logic apply to the creator? Yes the same logic would apply because most believers don’t believe either 2 entities popped out of nothingness and created themselves. Most believers believe that God is eternal and he created the universe they don't go into detail about how he did it. "imageorgiagirl" just because God is eternal doesn't mean he doesn't have a creator...maybe his creator is pre-eternal Most believers believe he does not have a creator that he is the first and last. So this question is asked on the basis of believers logic it says nothing about any other kind of logic except according to believers logic right? 
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so according to believers logic that is the answer
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Edited by
Chazster
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Tue 01/29/08 07:54 PM
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i never said it made it truth. but let me ask you a hypothetical that has nothing to do with this. Would you torture one guilty man to save thousands of innocent lives? wow talking about going off topic .....who says he was guily? and what is he guilty of ...and why the hack do I have to torture the person...I have a million questions about this Oh sorry, if he set a bomb in say a very large school and you have undeniable proof he did it, but you cant find the bomb and time is running out. Would you torture him to save the kids? It was just a question in another thread and people think i am crazy cause I value the kids lives more than that guys right to not be tortured. the time it takes to torture the guy then defuse the bomb could have been spent evacuating the kids out of the school a school might have been a bad example.. think more like Oklahoma city bombing. A building like that would take a long time to evac and you have the guy in custody and officers at the building all in radio contact. Its a hypothetical where all options are exhausted. |
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Most believers believe he does not have a creator that he is the first and last. So this question is asked on the basis of believers logic it says nothing about any other kind of logic except according to believers logic right? but "imageorgiagirl" believer's logic is that everything has to have been created by a creator and couldn't just have existed |
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No they believe that I Am always existed
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Everything else was then created by him
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So...
I Am doesn't have a creator in other words
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i never said it made it truth. but let me ask you a hypothetical that has nothing to do with this. Would you torture one guilty man to save thousands of innocent lives? wow talking about going off topic .....who says he was guily? and what is he guilty of ...and why the hack do I have to torture the person...I have a million questions about this Oh sorry, if he set a bomb in say a very large school and you have undeniable proof he did it, but you cant find the bomb and time is running out. Would you torture him to save the kids? It was just a question in another thread and people think i am crazy cause I value the kids lives more than that guys right to not be tortured. the time it takes to torture the guy then defuse the bomb could have been spent evacuating the kids out of the school a school might have been a bad example.. think more like Oklahoma city bombing. A building like that would take a long time to evac and you have the guy in custody and officers at the building all in radio contact. Its a hypothetical where all options are exhausted. it was an excellent example of this same senerio on an episode of Criminal Minds of a guy they had capture and others was going to blow up a shopping mall...the profiler use the guy own beliefs and religion against him to make him tell of details and that is how they stop the bombing but it wasn't any torture involved |
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No they believe that I Am always existed sorry "imageorgiagirl" but "I AM" doesn't prove God existence to anyone but to himself... |
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So according to believers logic I Am doesn't have a creator he is the only creator and after he himself always existed he decided to create the universe one day... so that means therefore according to believers logic the creators creator does not exist.
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Believers believe I Am is God and God is The Creator
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