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Thanks Turlepoet I am off to a few appointment will be back on later on. Have yourself a good day and I feel as I have made a new friend today. " Keep your Faith' and your " Faith will keep You'. Later.  Thanks, have a good one & keep fighting the good fight;^] |
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the only miracle is you making up your mind to do it ..unless you need someone to kidnap you and force you to ..even that may not work ...one eventually have to take responsibility for oneself agreed. and addictions are not diseases, saying that only makes someone sound weak. a disease is something you have no control over. |
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"We have come to admit that we were powerless over our addiction" ~ First step;^]
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" " the only miracle is you making up your mind to do it ..unless you need someone to kidnap you and force you to ..even that may not work ...one eventually have to take responsibility for oneself agreed. and addictions are not diseases, saying that only makes someone sound weak. a disease is something you have no control over. There is alot of Doctors who would disagree with you one being Dr. Ammes a expert in the field of diease. The American journal of medicine classes addiction as a disease. You get your information from where??? thanks for your input |
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godbless you all and stay strong there might be a long road ahead but be confident and you will be able to conqure anything
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It's funny the NA/ AA critics, if you notice absolutly none of them know anything about the program. Anyone who does understands, addiction is generaly too powerful to fight alone;^]
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I am so pissed!! I just wrote a long beginning and inbetween long and short of it...then posted it...just to lose it!! Arrrrgggghjhhh!! No time to re do what I wrote. Damnit!
My story is one that is scary and maddening. I am not stupid nor weak. But, behind those drugs...I was most certainly not in my own mind. Not for years after I was clean. Kat |
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"i am weak"
is all i read |
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"closed mind" is all I read. Oh and did I mention "stubborn"?
Kat |
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"closed mind" is all I read. Oh and did I mention "stubborn"? Kat oh, i'm for sure stubborn. but i am in control of my own body, always will be. the moment you admit you're not, you're weak. your body is your own and ultimately your actions are your responsiblity. |
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Concur; my actions in the beginning were absolutely my own. In the middle and the end....not so much.
My true self would never commit armed robbery. I would never hit someone with my car. I would never kidnap and tape and tie another. In my own mind I would never hire someone to injure another. In my own mind, I would never try and kill myself. Under the influence of drugs.....anything can happen. And usually does. As I have said....my story is long and shameful. And a mind that hasn't been deadened...will never place themselves in predicaments that I have. The drugs will and do kill our humanity. So much so...that I did not recognize myself. Kat Kat |
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Concur; my actions in the beginning were absolutely my own. In the middle and the end....not so much. My true self would never commit armed robbery. I would never hit someone with my car. I would never kidnap and tape and tie another. In my own mind I would never hire someone to injure another. In my own mind, I would never try and kill myself. Under the influence of drugs.....anything can happen. And usually does. As I have said....my story is long and shameful. And a mind that hasn't been deadened...will never place themselves in predicaments that I have. The drugs will and do kill our humanity. So much so...that I did not recognize myself. Kat Kat No need to argue with the cynics, they know nothing about it & can't begin to understand. We know the truth, a person who is never weak is a person who is always weak but in disguise. It's best to let them wander on their own (the cynics against NA/AA), no point in getting dragged into their ignorance;^] |
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Addiction can take many forms.. Some are even addicted to self. Nice point, doc. jonlaw, keep it rollin, this thread is depicting reality. You all are maintaining equilibrium, quite inspiring y'all! |
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No need to argue with the cynics, they know nothing about it & can't begin to understand. We know the truth, a person who is never weak is a person who is always weak but in disguise. It's best to let them wander on their own (the cynics against NA/AA), no point in getting dragged into their ignorance;^] it's whatever you wanna say to make yourself feel better. my actions are always my own. children do not accept responsibility for who they are and what they do |
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the only miracle is you making up your mind to do it ..unless you need someone to kidnap you and force you to ..even that may not work ...one eventually have to take responsibility for oneself agreed. and addictions are not diseases, saying that only makes someone sound weak. a disease is something you have no control over. dis-ease ---- the word speaks (fine funches) reads for itself. |
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the only miracle is you making up your mind to do it ..unless you need someone to kidnap you and force you to ..even that may not work ...one eventually have to take responsibility for oneself agreed. and addictions are not diseases, saying that only makes someone sound weak. a disease is something you have no control over. dis-ease ---- the word speaks (fine funches) reads for itself. please fiesty wench I've been ex-communicated and was ask not to speak in this thread anymore.....so stop causing trouble |
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cancer is a disease, are you all seriously telling me that alcoholism and drug addiction are on the same field as cancer?
in my eyes, and the eyes of many, you are hurting your own cause by speaking as if it were. |
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Define death differently from either and then maybe we'll talk......
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I assure you I am not weak. But...behind the control of a substance I am not me.
One would think that after almost dying and spending 9 weeks in the hospital, would be enough to quit. Yes, for a minute... until the lure of it catches you and pulls you back in. Weak behind the drug...yes. But in real life, clean and sober? Nope. One who has never been down that road truly does not know. Do you really think we want to look like that? Do you really think we wanted to do the things we did to stay high and in the mix? The most important things to me were seeing that my kids were fed well and dressed good and doing well in school. Then it was worrying about getting paid, having product to sell, and of course enough for myself. Yes!! I was able to take care of my kids. By the same token; I also put them at risk. There is nothing you can say that will make me feel any worse about myself than I already feel for what I did. The things that could have gone wrong and hurt my kids was oh so real. Thing is....now they are soooo proud of me. And so am I. Kat |
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