It's on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWHLnDsOSwA&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=KucykTV

And like I said the other day... we're going to a regime like the one the whole world fought for 5 yrs...
Irony is that many of the people who set up this 'new regime' actually came from Germany and were at the time taken back to the US.
So we won the war back then, and yet we didn't. The venom is in the tail which is what seems to get us now.

It certainly seems that way. So far, in the UK we're experiencing a curtailing of various freedoms such as the right to free association with others and restrictions on movement. Both Scotland and Wales have announced that their borders are closed to anyone leaving or entering, although the police have said so far that they have no intention of enforcing these restrictions.

The infamous "Operation Paperclip" that rescued people like Werner Von Braun and others like him, who should have stood trial for their crimes.
As I've been known to remark: "When you import Nazi scientists, you don't just get Nazi science".

That is very true!

Let's just hope all this chit blows over quickly or that the people will rise and not put up with it any longer.
To be quite honest, the entire pandemic thing doesn't scare me, never did, but what's going on, what it could turn into... THAT does scare me!

I try to steer clear from it as much as I can by not watching the news etc. but I do of course read and hear some stuff every now and then.
Part of me -big part- flatly refused to believe Love will not prevail, but what is happening seems to defy that...
It still doesn't have to escalate any further. I mean, didn't we have riots and stuff in the 80s too? And that wasn't dealt with particularly pretty either.
Only thing is that one would've hoped we'd have progressed beyond that by now. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case.

Love is like gravity- it will always prevail in the long term.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/123514531/covid19-new-research-suggests-immunity-to-coronavirus-is-better-than-we-first-thought

Immunity to covid .. latest research suggests immunity may last 6 to 8 months post covid infection .. however insufficient data available on reinfections to confirm .

https://thejewishvoice.com/2020/11/banned-video-former-pfizer-chief-science-officer-dr-michael-yeadon-covid-second-wave-based-on-false-positives/

Sorry if this has already been posted / discussed etc

Governments have been controlling their people for a very long time.
If not openly, then subliminally.
This pandemic merely reveals how much power we have given our governments.
The really crazy stuff hasn't even started yet.
People are still generally compliant.

I wonder what would happen if we forget about all the numbers and fearmongering? Use our common sense and stay home when not feeling well or ill, and otherwise just do as we have always done: live life. Meaning no face masks, no distancing.

Would people suddenly start dropping dead in piles in the street? I don't think so.
Would the whole world get ill? Oh, wait, they say the whole world already is ill. So what's the difference?

I think it wouldn't matter a danged thing except that people wouldn't be so stressed out, in fear, and divided in a 'pro-face mask and vaccine' and 'anti face mask & anti vaccine' group.
People are really being divided by all this nonsense while we should get united...

I have to say, that whilst I like Roger Daltrey, I'm unsure what qualifications he has, and Franky I'm shocked by some of his views

All this panic over something that you have a 99% chance of surviving! I'll take that "risk" anyday.

You have a statistically higher chance of getting killed in a car accident on your way to the grocery store to buy your masks and hand sanitizer than you will getting killed by Covid from those at same grocery store.

Source: I made it up, but it sounds good and is probably accurate. ;)

Hello one fine man the panic is more over the inability of global health systems to cope with a pandemic .., that threat is real .. covid has highlighted how populations have outgrown health services . How confident are you that if you did become unwell during winter and needed hospitalisation., that you would have no difficulty accessing such care ???

I feel the panic is more over, a deeply flawed testing system, that gives out 10 times more positive rules due to it having a 1% chance of being wrong. In fact it's worse than that, you can test positive having had a mild dose months ago, as there will still be some DNA from the dead virus in your nostrils.
Also the continuing of misleading information, fearmongering, wasting lots of tax money for useless ppe by giving a contracts to your wife's cousin and so on, who just registered a business yesterday
The lack of being able to protest, or go to the pub. The long line of other ailments being ignored. The people who cannot get the treatment in hospital for other things they need. The hospitals overrun? Apparently that's baloney. And really, you'd take somebody with a highly infectious disease that kills people, to the local hospital!? That makes about as much sense as a chocolate teapot
Oh, and let's not forget about perhaps panicking about all the vank methods that will be used to get you to have a needle stuck into your arm with something that isn't neccessary and hasn't been tested properly

And frankly I have no confidence in the so called health care system, and this is another reason why.

Hello R2 .., hospitals deal with infectious diseases all the time .. some of those infections are treatable .. others only the symptoms can be treated . What hospitals don’t want is an uncontrolled pathogen unleashed . Most hospitals have limited resources for coping with infectious diseases ., special controlled pressure rooms are required to help contain the pathogen and prevent spread to the rest of the hospital . Vulnerable populations within the hospital should be an obvious reason why this Is vital . PPE (Personal protective equipment ) is an important and necessary protection for frontline healthworkers . Like any laboratory testing the PCR test is reliant on correct sampling , timing of sampling /viral load and processing. It is a gold standard test for covid that has been highly accurate . How many tests do you think have been performed todate . You are assuming that residual viral RNA is not infective ... where is your proof???? ... do you know viruses especially are capable of lying dormant within the body for many years before reactivating . It is still too soon to know the impact of residual covid RNA .

Hi Blondey
Did you watch the Michael Yeadon video I posted?
What do you think?
With the greatest of respect , I think he is more qualified than you or I to speak about such things, and I truly cannot see what he has to gain by saying what he has said
Also, as you know, I find that practically all medical people lie , even if they don't want to, a, I'd really like to, but my hands are tied kind of a situation.
Remember Blondey, Doctors advertised cigarettes, lobotomized people ( that's chopping a part of their brain out by the way, just to emphasize my point, I apologize if it sounds sarcastic ) , and forced people to have orgasms ( I believe that would be called sexual assault)
Oh, and don't forget, they're supposed to treat us with dignity, respect, and tell us the truth
And if your going to try to tell me, that they do that, they I no longer wish to speak to you

as a health professional I have always treated my patients with dignity and respect which includes honesty and truth . I can vouch that my colleagues that I work alongside also uphold the same standards . I am a little disappointed you find it necessary to generalise and demean the health profession as a whole . . I know you believe you have reasons to mistrust health professionals and I am saddened that has been your experience . Equally saddened that you do not show me the respect of having my own opinion. ., and you feel the need to give me an ultimatum .


As this topic is about covid I will not discuss lobotomies or historical events and will stick to the topic .

As for Michael yeadon.... . how easily you trust a man that you likely did not know existed until recently . You ask what reason he would have.... Did you know that he worked at Pfizer for 17 years on a programme which was shut down by Pfizer . That was the motivation for starting his own Company . If you believe that either side carries no bias then potentially your viewpoint is flawed .

The following is a response to Yeadon’s claims .., it is always important to consider all information and not just information you agree with ....

http://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/a-rise-in-the-number-of-covid-19-cases-and-deaths-starting-in-september-2020-contradicts-the-claim-by-michael-yeadon-that-the-pandemic-is-fundamentally-over-in-the-u-k/

I've yet to meet a health professional that says otherwise.
Of course your entitled to your opinion, I've never said otherwise. However I have found that when it comes to medically type things, you always seem to have the same rhetoric status quo type of opinions, as that which are deemed in vogue with whatever paradigm they're pushing at present
I've read the link you posted before. You speak of him, but don't really give an opinon as regards his video, and opinions.
You are after all bound to the whim of your managers, whether directly or by proxy. Are they medical professionals? And who directs them I wonder?
And surely you, more than most people would know how many cannot be treated for other things in hospital, that they normally might have been treated for, and how many of those may have died as a result. As equally you would know how these draconian measures have caused various other health problems for people.
Aegrescit medendo. The remedy is worse than the disease
As a final point, has anybody on your street died of covid? Does anybody who reads this thread know somebody on their street who has died of covid?
I suspect the answer is no, ( having said that, somebody is now bound to say yes ) , if that is so, then surely this thing can't even be half as bad as they're trying to make out. And surely even you must realize how much this has been seized upon to strip away liberties and push an agenda. Oh, and I'm currently in a place with zero lockdown, have been for quite some time, I regularly eat out and such so never really wear a mask, and people definitely ain't dropping like flies, and they're far happier going about their business, and if people are in lockdown, and can come here, then many of them do, go figure

Well ... you said you did not want to talk to me if I tried to tell you otherwise .. That is hardly conducive to a fair exchange .

Just to remind you I am in New Zealand ., My entire country has not been in lockdown for some time . I hope your situation continues .

When covid first hit and my country was in lockdown ., hospitals operated at a much lower capacity .,anticipating what could potentially happen . Elective surgeries were postponed. Emergency care was always available . People were not turned away .. In fact many “avoided” coming to hospital . Our experience was very different to what happened in China , Italy and New York .

I do not know anyone personally who died from covid .. but I do know who has died in my country .
A pandemic is not a normal event . At lot of measures put in place where to attempt to reduce spread and assist hospitals to cope with unprecedented demands . You can label that draconian . I label it commonsense .

Yes , professionally I am bound by medico legal and ethical regulations but I am allowed to think for myself .

We obviously have different life experiences ..and incompatible viewpoints ... happy to leave it at that.
Thanks for the chat . Stay healthy and happy

https://youtu.be/oN4YZGJ0GZ0

The running of the American, from Borat 2
It seems to sum things up, and makes me smile

Employers could fire you if you refuse to get the coronavirus vaccine
Key Points

Companies are considering compulsory Covid vaccination requirements as a condition of employment.
“Under the law, an employer can force an employee to get vaccinated, and if they don’t, fire them,” said Rogge Dunn, a Dallas labor and employment attorney.
Anti-discrimination laws would enable eligible employees to request an exemption from a company-wide coronavirus vaccine mandate.

On the fence about the coronavirus vaccine? Employees in America could legally be fired from their jobs if the refuse to get vaccinated, CNBC reported. According to a survey from the Pew Research Center, about four in every 10 Americans either “definitely” wouldn’t or “probably” wouldn’t receive the COVID-19 vaccine. In order to achieve herd immunity, at least 70% of the population would need to either get the vaccine or have antibodies to the virus. As the approval for a vaccine in the U.S. nears, many corporations are considering making the vaccine mandatory for employment. “Under the law, an employer can force an employee to get vaccinated, and if they don’t take it, fire them,” Rogge Dunn, a Dallas labor and employment attorney, said. Some of Dunn’s clients are event considering using the vaccine as a marketing tool. “They think it gives them a competitive advantage,” Dunn said. “They could say to their customers, ‘Hey, our restaurant is safe. All of our employees have been vaccinated.’”

While private companies have extensive rights in their abilities to fire somehow for not adhering to health and safety measures, there are a few exceptions to the rule. A unionized workplace would potentially require that the union have the ability to negotiate the requirements. In addition, workers who do not want to get the vaccine for medical reasons are able to request an exemption under the Americans with Disabilities Act. If a person’s religious beliefs that are “sincerely held” are against vaccinations, they could also be able to opt out under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.