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Topic: questions that believers are afraid to answer
feralcatlady's photo
Tue 01/22/08 11:38 AM




Debbie says: I believe this 100% with one exception. I believe that man over time has altered himself in order to adapt to his environment. What I don't and won't ever believe is that a speck of dust fell to the earth, turned into a tadpole, crawled out and turned into a monkey, the an ape then me.....no way no how. I have never seen in science where one species turns into a complete new species....never has never will.


ahh feralcatlady so if you don't believe something can be created out of nothing then that logic should also apply to a God ...which means gong by your logic even God has a creator


I didn't say that you did my sweet funch. I believe as far as God that he is the beginning and through him, not only the planets, stars, all of the universe was created. For me, myself and I...as I can only speak for myself.....God did not have a creator.....HE IS THE CREATOR and everything was created from nothing by him.


sorry feralcatlady..you have just now contradicted yourself and your belief...first you say spontaneous generation is impossible then you say it is possible when pertaining to your belief ..you just denied your own logic blinked and showed doubt ...


No I did not....your just delusional my sweet. I said that a tadpole could never become a person.....and I sure as heck didn't come from the ape...because think about that for a minute...If I did come from an ape....why are they still here. And throughout history has there ever been any living creature that has turned into another. And no matter how you twist it.......I believe in creation not evolution in the sense of darwin. \

So your it.....tags the cutiful funches.

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Tue 01/22/08 11:51 AM

No I did not....your just delusional my sweet. I said that a tadpole could never become a person.....and I sure as heck didn't come from the ape...because think about that for a minute...If I did come from an ape....why are they still here. And throughout history has there ever been any living creature that has turned into another. And no matter how you twist it.......I believe in creation not evolution in the sense of darwin. \

So your it.....tags the cutiful funches.


..er..feralcatlady I was referring to the Original Question in which you stated that spontaneous generation is impossible but is possible when it pertain to your belief ..this an obvious contradiction

Halfadozen's photo
Tue 01/22/08 01:30 PM
Funches, You do have a much debated question posted here. Personally, I belive in creation. I do respect people who do not belive the same way. The only thing I can say is 'Let's just imagine for a minute'. If the whole universe did come from a singularity in space and all of what we are is just a 'lucky chance' we still have the question of what caused the singularity. But if you belive in a 'Higher Power' once again we are caught up in the chicken and the egg problem. I don't believe that there is any way to prove or disprove either argument at this time. The only thing either side can do is agree to disagree and at some point nothing became something. All it takes is some faith either in religon or mechanics of the universe. As for me, once again, I belive in God and you have free will to choose other wise.

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Tue 01/22/08 02:14 PM
I can't believe that his parody of a thread is still going on.

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Tue 01/22/08 03:50 PM

Funches, You do have a much debated question posted here. Personally, I belive in creation. I do respect people who do not belive the same way. The only thing I can say is 'Let's just imagine for a minute'. If the whole universe did come from a singularity in space and all of what we are is just a 'lucky chance' we still have the question of what caused the singularity. But if you belive in a 'Higher Power' once again we are caught up in the chicken and the egg problem. I don't believe that there is any way to prove or disprove either argument at this time. The only thing either side can do is agree to disagree and at some point nothing became something. All it takes is some faith either in religon or mechanics of the universe. As for me, once again, I belive in God and you have free will to choose other wise.


"HalfaDozen"..the original question is not disputing the creation of the universe or who supposely created the universe..the original questions is simply asking that if the universe didn't just pop out of nothingness and had to have had a creator then doesn't that same logic applies to the creator and if the answer is "NO" then rationally explain "why not"

feralcatlady's photo
Tue 01/22/08 04:14 PM


No I did not....your just delusional my sweet. I said that a tadpole could never become a person.....and I sure as heck didn't come from the ape...because think about that for a minute...If I did come from an ape....why are they still here. And throughout history has there ever been any living creature that has turned into another. And no matter how you twist it.......I believe in creation not evolution in the sense of darwin. \

So your it.....tags the cutiful funches.

er..feralcatlady I was referring to the Original Question in which you stated that spontaneous generation is impossible but is possible when it pertain to your belief ..this an obvious contradiction


Well lets look at it again sweets....so no misunderstanding

Funches said

evolution faith and "Free Will" all relies upon the species or person to induced their minds to either make a decision alter reality or in the case of faith to induce something to be truth just by believing it is ...or in the case of evolution when a thought or continuing thoughts can induce the body to alter itself in order to adapt to it's enviroment

Debbie says again.

Debbie says: I believe this 100% with one exception. I believe that man over time has altered himself in order to adapt to his environment. (EXAMPLE ADDED TEETH TO CHEW DIFFERENT FOOD. What I don't and won't ever believe is that a speck of dust fell to the earth, turned into a tadpole, crawled out and turned into a monkey, the an ape then me.....no way no how. I have never seen in science where one species turns into a complete new species....never has never will.


You will not the added big letters what I put.....Which also apply to different parts of the human body that I think even now are usless in our use today....for example tonsils of course good to keep but serve no purpose. Also imo the baby toe don't need it persay......But this in no ways says I came about from a whole other species. Do you see the difference now.


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Tue 01/22/08 04:44 PM
Debs,
Tonsils - well they are of use sometimes.

"The tonsils are now recognized as defending the body against infections that would otherwise invade it. They are composed of lymphoid tissue, which forms the white blood cells called lymphocytes, the cells that attack germs in the body. That harm can result from their unnecessary removal is becoming more and more evident. Thus it has been found that there is a much higher ratio of multiple sclerosis in persons who had their tonsils removed than among those of their relatives who did not have their tonsils removed.
http://www.ehealthmd.com/library/tonsillitis/TON_whatis.html

- I know medical opinions on just about everything change as time goes by, the info I found below, I thought was rather interesting.
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" Outside of the central nervous system, tonsil tissue is the best tissue for the detection of the abnormal prion protein in vCJD " - This is from a medical journal in the UK.

(this is the human variant of the "mad cow disease"

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Tue 01/22/08 04:59 PM
Well alot of people get them out and have no problems.....but I did not know this...thanks brit.

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Tue 01/22/08 05:16 PM

What I don't and won't ever believe is that a speck of dust fell to the earth, turned into a tadpole,


that was the part of your post that I'm was referring to "feralcatlady" ....when you said that you "don't" and "won't ever believe" that something considered as not being alive as "A SPECK OF DUST" can turn into something alive "AS A TADPOLE" which is an indication that you do not believe in spontaneous generation and that a creator must have been involve

but wouldn't spontaneous generation explain the existence of a God that supposely "alway was" and therefore doesn't have a creaotr which is in direct contradiction to you not believing in spontaneous generation


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Tue 01/22/08 05:50 PM
Edited by feralcatlady on Tue 01/22/08 05:52 PM


What I don't and won't ever believe is that a speck of dust fell to the earth, turned into a tadpole,


that was the part of your post that I'm was referring to "feralcatlady" ....when you said that you "don't" and "won't ever believe" that something considered as not being alive as "A SPECK OF DUST" can turn into something alive "AS A TADPOLE" which is an indication that you do not believe in spontaneous generation and that a creator must have been involve

but wouldn't spontaneous generation explain the existence of a God that supposely "alway was" and therefore doesn't have a creaotr which is in direct contradiction to you not believing in spontaneous generation



Spontaneous generation does not have anything to do with God.


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Tue 01/22/08 06:05 PM



What I don't and won't ever believe is that a speck of dust fell to the earth, turned into a tadpole,


that was the part of your post that I'm was referring to "feralcatlady" ....when you said that you "don't" and "won't ever believe" that something considered as not being alive as "A SPECK OF DUST" can turn into something alive "AS A TADPOLE" which is an indication that you do not believe in spontaneous generation and that a creator must have been involve

but wouldn't spontaneous generation explain the existence of a God that supposely "alway was" and therefore doesn't have a creaotr which is in direct contradiction to you not believing in spontaneous generation



Spontaneous generation does not have anything to do with God.


which means that the universe didn't need a God to be created

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Tue 01/22/08 06:19 PM

Well alot of people get them out and have no problems.....but I did not know this...thanks brit.


yes thanks Britty for that information before feralcatlady gives evolution a hand and chops off her baby toe besides deeming other body parts as useless and resort to removing them

nuenjins's photo
Tue 01/22/08 06:23 PM
Edited by nuenjins on Tue 01/22/08 06:30 PM
And so it goes on. We should just copy the same thread and just post it every week.

Creationist:
"God is real because of XYZ."

yeah but what about____

Creationist:
"Well this is how it works"


but that doesn't explain this__

Creationist:
"Well, you have to get saved to fully experience and
understand that"

But I don't believe in God


And REPEAT- perfect formula to a useless forum.

Come back next week for more of the same on...JSH Mind Numbing Theaterdrinker


(we're trying to help you people and Ya'll just aint cooperatin'laugh )

feralcatlady's photo
Tue 01/22/08 06:30 PM

And so it goes on. We should just copy the same thread and just post it every week.

Creationist:
"God is real because of XYZ."

yeah but what about____

Creationist:
"Well this is how it works"


but that doesn't explain this__



Creationist:
"Well, you have to get saved to fully experience and
understand that"

But I don't believe in God


And REPEAT- perfect formula to a useless forum.

Come back next week for more of the same on...JSH Mind Numbing Theaterdrinker




laugh laugh laugh laugh

And in that lies the truth.

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Tue 01/22/08 06:51 PM

And so it goes on. We should just copy the same thread and just post it every week.

Creationist:
"God is real because of XYZ."

yeah but what about____

Creationist:
"Well this is how it works"


but that doesn't explain this__

Creationist:
"Well, you have to get saved to fully experience and
understand that"

But I don't believe in God


And REPEAT- perfect formula to a useless forum.

Come back next week for more of the same on...JSH Mind Numbing Theaterdrinker


(we're trying to help you people and Ya'll just aint cooperatin'laugh )


you forgot to include those that post in threads to moan and complain about the thread because they haven't a clue as how to answer the original question of the thread

feralcatlady's photo
Wed 01/23/08 03:56 PM


Well alot of people get them out and have no problems.....but I did not know this...thanks brit.


yes thanks Britty for that information before feralcatlady gives evolution a hand and chops off her baby toe besides deeming other body parts as useless and resort to removing them



I was trying to make a point.....That yes I think man evolves but I don't think man was anything ever other then man. And God has always been God....nothing else....and if this doesn't answer it enough for the cutiful funches......well then I say........


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nuenjins's photo
Wed 01/23/08 05:34 PM
Funchy Baby just needs a hug. That's the answer to all 38 pages. Here ya go Big Guy. Much love to ya. *SQUEEZE*laugh :wink: happy


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Wed 01/23/08 05:54 PM

Funchy Baby just needs a hug. That's the answer to all 38 pages. Here ya go Big Guy. Much love to ya. *SQUEEZE*laugh :wink: happy


what you could do is stop complaining and just answer the original question

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Wed 01/23/08 07:08 PM
Edited by iamgeorgiagirl on Wed 01/23/08 07:09 PM


this thread is about questions that the religious will just close their minds to and refuse to answer or just afraid to answer because it will question their suppose faith or question that they just can't answer rationally ..here's the first one

according to believers logic, God had to have created the universe because the universe couldn't have popped out of nothingness and create itself .....so therefore do the same logic apply to the creator

if the answer is no then could you explain why with a rational explanation



Hi funches! :smile:

Yes the same logic does apply to The Creator

God is The Creator and he exists in spirit
The universe was created by God
The universe was created out of the same material God is composed of… Spirit
We are created by God and are composed of spirit too

Since the answer is yes and not no then I assume no other rational explanation is needed.

cuzimwhiteboy's photo
Wed 01/23/08 08:20 PM
TO ANY CHRISTIAN THAT CARES TO ANSWER:

Not always, but I've been told by orthodox Christians, that they are saved by grace, and not by works. Grace implies something that is freely given to someone, and is unmerited for anything he/she does. Why is it that you must first ask for forgiveness (repent), then make Jesus your LORD (someone who has power/influence over you) to achieve (or earn?) your salvation? Doesn't that reduce your own salvation to the level of works, and NOT grace?

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