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Topic: questions that believers are afraid to answer
funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/16/08 10:28 AM
Agreed, funches. 'Always is', boundless, without bounds. without limits, unbounded space, time or quantity. Please explain how he (spidercmb) can exist as he is now...before something that he proclaims to always be? that's you and spidercmb delusion so it's up to the two of you to explain it ..it's irrational to expect others to prove or disprove your delusions..if you make the claim then it's up to you yourself to prove or disprove them

Perhaps Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 146	Wed 01/16/08 10:28 AM
I'm expounding on a thought or idea and exchanging it with you. well "perhaps"..since you are in the mood to expound then try expounding on answering the original question ... Ok. "according to believers logic, God had to have created the universe because the universe couldn't have popped out of nothingness and create itself .....so therefore do the same logic apply to the creator" No. The same "believers logic" does not apply to the creator. Believers of God who hold to the logic that God created the universe, hold also to the logic that God always existed.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/16/08 10:31 AM
I'm expounding on a thought or idea and exchanging it with you. The idea is, it takes more balls to TAKE a hit without dishing one out in return. The topic is discussing ideas that people are afraid to answer. My question is, do you find any value in that quote? I found as much value as the person giving it Thank you. It would appear that the three of us agree on the principle. It's just a matter of consistently putting it into practice. people post a certain way when they are in a certain mentally or mind frame so after analyzing the post sometimes you have to respond in the mind frame they may be accustomed to

Perhaps Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 146	Wed 01/16/08 10:35 AM
I'm expounding on a thought or idea and exchanging it with you. The idea is, it takes more balls to TAKE a hit without dishing one out in return. The topic is discussing ideas that people are afraid to answer. My question is, do you find any value in that quote? I found as much value as the person giving it Thank you. It would appear that the three of us agree on the principle. It's just a matter of consistently putting it into practice. people post a certain way when they are in a certain mentally or mind frame so after analyzing the post sometimes you have to respond in the mind frame they may be accustomed to or...you can be the bigger man and respond in a way that changes that mind frame.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/16/08 10:36 AM
I'm expounding on a thought or idea and exchanging it with you. well "perhaps"..since you are in the mood to expound then try expounding on answering the original question ... Ok. "according to believers logic, God had to have created the universe because the universe couldn't have popped out of nothingness and create itself .....so therefore do the same logic apply to the creator" No. The same "believers logic" does not apply to the creator. Believers of God who hold to the logic that God created the universe, hold also to the logic that God always existed. well that is believers belief not believer's logic ..with belief you need faith with logic it has to be rational..so reember the question is about logic not belief ...so keep that in mind and try again

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/16/08 10:37 AM
I'm expounding on a thought or idea and exchanging it with you. The idea is, it takes more balls to TAKE a hit without dishing one out in return. The topic is discussing ideas that people are afraid to answer. My question is, do you find any value in that quote? I found as much value as the person giving it Thank you. It would appear that the three of us agree on the principle. It's just a matter of consistently putting it into practice. people post a certain way when they are in a certain mentally or mind frame so after analyzing the post sometimes you have to respond in the mind frame they may be accustomed to or...you can be the bigger man and respond in a way that changes that mind frame. who's to say I didn't

Perhaps Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 146	Wed 01/16/08 10:57 AM
I'm expounding on a thought or idea and exchanging it with you. well "perhaps"..since you are in the mood to expound then try expounding on answering the original question ... Ok. "according to believers logic, God had to have created the universe because the universe couldn't have popped out of nothingness and create itself .....so therefore do the same logic apply to the creator" No. The same "believers logic" does not apply to the creator. Believers of God who hold to the logic that God created the universe, hold also to the logic that God always existed. well that is believers belief not believer's logic ..with belief you need faith with logic it has to be rational..so reember the question is about logic not belief ...so keep that in mind and try again "Believers logic" is deduced by their faith. The question is answered.

Jistme Joined Wed 10/31/07 Posts: 2991	Wed 01/16/08 10:57 AM
who's to say I didn't Anyone in their right mind?

Perhaps Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 146	Wed 01/16/08 11:00 AM
I'm expounding on a thought or idea and exchanging it with you. The idea is, it takes more balls to TAKE a hit without dishing one out in return. The topic is discussing ideas that people are afraid to answer. My question is, do you find any value in that quote? I found as much value as the person giving it Thank you. It would appear that the three of us agree on the principle. It's just a matter of consistently putting it into practice. people post a certain way when they are in a certain mentally or mind frame so after analyzing the post sometimes you have to respond in the mind frame they may be accustomed to or...you can be the bigger man and respond in a way that changes that mind frame. who's to say I didn't History.

Differentkindofwench Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 5960	Wed 01/16/08 11:15 AM
Perhaps, that was well done!

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/16/08 11:29 AM
I'm expounding on a thought or idea and exchanging it with you. well "perhaps"..since you are in the mood to expound then try expounding on answering the original question ... Ok. "according to believers logic, God had to have created the universe because the universe couldn't have popped out of nothingness and create itself .....so therefore do the same logic apply to the creator" No. The same "believers logic" does not apply to the creator. Believers of God who hold to the logic that God created the universe, hold also to the logic that God always existed. well that is believers belief not believer's logic ..with belief you need faith with logic it has to be rational..so reember the question is about logic not belief ...so keep that in mind and try again "Believers logic" is deduced by their faith. The question is answered. the originally question clearly states believer's logic not their faith ...faith requires no proof or logic that's why it's faith ..so try again

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/16/08 11:30 AM
who's to say I didn't Anyone in their right mind? who to say their in their right mind

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/16/08 11:32 AM
I'm expounding on a thought or idea and exchanging it with you. The idea is, it takes more balls to TAKE a hit without dishing one out in return. The topic is discussing ideas that people are afraid to answer. My question is, do you find any value in that quote? I found as much value as the person giving it Thank you. It would appear that the three of us agree on the principle. It's just a matter of consistently putting it into practice. people post a certain way when they are in a certain mentally or mind frame so after analyzing the post sometimes you have to respond in the mind frame they may be accustomed to or...you can be the bigger man and respond in a way that changes that mind frame. who's to say I didn't History. history also requires that you should explain your answer

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/16/08 11:33 AM
Perhaps, that was well done! that was more like wishful thinking

Differentkindofwench Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 5960	Wed 01/16/08 11:34 AM
No, the history of the thread's written form speaks.

Perhaps Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 146	Wed 01/16/08 11:37 AM
I'm expounding on a thought or idea and exchanging it with you. well "perhaps"..since you are in the mood to expound then try expounding on answering the original question ... Ok. "according to believers logic, God had to have created the universe because the universe couldn't have popped out of nothingness and create itself .....so therefore do the same logic apply to the creator" No. The same "believers logic" does not apply to the creator. Believers of God who hold to the logic that God created the universe, hold also to the logic that God always existed. well that is believers belief not believer's logic ..with belief you need faith with logic it has to be rational..so reember the question is about logic not belief ...so keep that in mind and try again "Believers logic" is deduced by their faith. The question is answered. the originally question clearly states believer's logic not their faith ...faith requires no proof or logic that's why it's faith ..so try again If you can't rationalize that, then therein lies the problem.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/16/08 11:39 AM
I'm expounding on a thought or idea and exchanging it with you. well "perhaps"..since you are in the mood to expound then try expounding on answering the original question ... Ok. "according to believers logic, God had to have created the universe because the universe couldn't have popped out of nothingness and create itself .....so therefore do the same logic apply to the creator" No. The same "believers logic" does not apply to the creator. Believers of God who hold to the logic that God created the universe, hold also to the logic that God always existed. well that is believers belief not believer's logic ..with belief you need faith with logic it has to be rational..so reember the question is about logic not belief ...so keep that in mind and try again "Believers logic" is deduced by their faith. The question is answered. the originally question clearly states believer's logic not their faith ...faith requires no proof or logic that's why it's faith ..so try again If you can't rationalize that, then therein lies the problem. then you should be able to rationize those are the same qualification for delusion ...no proof no logic

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/16/08 11:41 AM
No, the history of the thread's written form speaks. well since you wish to get technical...it reads not speak also you must have hear it speak on the wrong channel ..

Perhaps Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 146	Wed 01/16/08 11:43 AM
I'm expounding on a thought or idea and exchanging it with you. The idea is, it takes more balls to TAKE a hit without dishing one out in return. The topic is discussing ideas that people are afraid to answer. My question is, do you find any value in that quote? I found as much value as the person giving it Thank you. It would appear that the three of us agree on the principle. It's just a matter of consistently putting it into practice. people post a certain way when they are in a certain mentally or mind frame so after analyzing the post sometimes you have to respond in the mind frame they may be accustomed to or...you can be the bigger man and respond in a way that changes that mind frame. who's to say I didn't History. history also requires that you should explain your answer Ok, in fairness to you, I'll change my answer. You may have attempted to change the mind frame by your responses, however I do not see any evidence that you have succeeded. This can be seen by the history of this thread.

Perhaps Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 146	Wed 01/16/08 11:50 AM
I'm expounding on a thought or idea and exchanging it with you. well "perhaps"..since you are in the mood to expound then try expounding on answering the original question ... Ok. "according to believers logic, God had to have created the universe because the universe couldn't have popped out of nothingness and create itself .....so therefore do the same logic apply to the creator" No. The same "believers logic" does not apply to the creator. Believers of God who hold to the logic that God created the universe, hold also to the logic that God always existed. well that is believers belief not believer's logic ..with belief you need faith with logic it has to be rational..so reember the question is about logic not belief ...so keep that in mind and try again "Believers logic" is deduced by their faith. The question is answered. the originally question clearly states believer's logic not their faith ...faith requires no proof or logic that's why it's faith ..so try again If you can't rationalize that, then therein lies the problem. then you should be able to rationize those are the same qualification for delusion ...no proof no logic Close, but not a "Wee-Oh". From a psychological perspective, delusion is an erroneous belief that is held in the face of evidence to the contrary. Do you have evidence that God does not exist or is this just your belief?