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Topic: "to believe is to doubt"
feralcatlady Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 35491	Mon 12/31/07 09:33 AM
I missed the funches........why I am not sure........but neverhteless I did.....giggle.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 12/31/07 12:10 PM
This is kinda off the wall??? I do not understand the question. I exist because I do. I breathe, feel, eat, cry, love, dream. DREAM.... If I were someone else's imagination; would I dream within a dream? In my dreams, I live sometimes a better way. Sometimes not. But, I know they are MY dreams. To exist simply because of someone else's imagination is silly. Who's imagination would I be from? My Moms? Don't think so. We think sooo differently. My grandmas? She is dead. Would not her imagination cease to exist? Therefore me as well? However; I can see me being Gods imagination. My belief is He is the creator, the giver of life. His imaginings became reality. Would we all be from the same imagination? (Not of God?) Is this real? Why of course it has to be. We all see the same things. We all see grass, the sky, feel what we see. Smell the same smells. But think differently. What kind of mind would in good conscience, be able to live with itself giving us so many life differences? Stephen King? Don't tell me God. God gave us reasoning. To make our own choices and see where they lead us. Sometimes not so good. Sometimes wonderful. I know I exist because in a dream I would most certainly change things daily to make me more comfortable and enriched. As it is; it is what it is. Life being lived for better or worse. So no; I do not think my reality is a thought. Kat wow ..finally someone that "know" they exist

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 12/31/07 12:13 PM
I missed the funches........why I am not sure........but neverhteless I did.....giggle. probably because the eggnog hasn't worn off yet

feralcatlady Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 35491	Mon 12/31/07 12:14 PM
except I don't drink.....giggle......I missed your smartarce.....plain and simple.....

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Tue 01/01/08 07:51 AM
except I don't drink..... hey that's pretty cool...so what you say we go out and have a drink to celebrate that ....er...even Jesus drank wine

feralcatlady Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 35491	Tue 01/01/08 08:39 AM
I would totally go and have a non-alcoholic drink with ya funches.......I am a recovering drug user and alcoholic so wont go there ever again. And please don't use that as to me believing what I believe they have nothing to do with each other. But just shows that even the believers can fall and sin.

scttrbrain Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 5769	Tue 01/01/08 03:20 PM
This is kinda off the wall??? I do not understand the question. I exist because I do. I breathe, feel, eat, cry, love, dream. DREAM.... If I were someone else's imagination; would I dream within a dream? In my dreams, I live sometimes a better way. Sometimes not. But, I know they are MY dreams. To exist simply because of someone else's imagination is silly. Who's imagination would I be from? My Moms? Don't think so. We think sooo differently. My grandmas? She is dead. Would not her imagination cease to exist? Therefore me as well? However; I can see me being Gods imagination. My belief is He is the creator, the giver of life. His imaginings became reality. Would we all be from the same imagination? (Not of God?) Is this real? Why of course it has to be. We all see the same things. We all see grass, the sky, feel what we see. Smell the same smells. But think differently. What kind of mind would in good conscience, be able to live with itself giving us so many life differences? Stephen King? Don't tell me God. God gave us reasoning. To make our own choices and see where they lead us. Sometimes not so good. Sometimes wonderful. I know I exist because in a dream I would most certainly change things daily to make me more comfortable and enriched. As it is; it is what it is. Life being lived for better or worse. So no; I do not think my reality is a thought. Kat wow ..finally someone that "know" they exist I'm in shock. Kat

Differentkindofwench Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 5960	Tue 01/01/08 04:27 PM
Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!!!!!

cuzimwhiteboy Joined Mon 10/15/07 Posts: 229	Tue 01/01/08 04:42 PM
Hmmm. Do we doubt in order to understand, or do we understand in order to doubt? Am I a man dreaming I'm a butterfly, or am I butterfly dreaming I'm a man?

scttrbrain Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 5769	Tue 01/01/08 06:29 PM
You shoooore look like a man to me darlin.... I never caught a butterfly that looked like you. Kat

feralcatlady Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 35491	Wed 01/02/08 09:33 AM


funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 01/02/08 09:39 AM Edited by funches on Wed 01/02/08 10:39 AM
I would totally go and have a non-alcoholic drink with ya funches....... ..er..are you required to have a chaperone when you go out ...I may want to give you a spanky spanky and jump your bones

feralcatlady Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 35491	Wed 01/02/08 11:37 AM
lol lol heck yes another person would have to go.....jk...... I love ya funches but don't trust those crazy hands of yours.

cuzimwhiteboy Joined Mon 10/15/07 Posts: 229	Wed 01/02/08 03:36 PM
You shoooore look like a man to me darlin.... I never caught a butterfly that looked like you. Kat Why am I craving milk? Happy New Year, Kat!

feralcatlady Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 35491	Wed 01/02/08 04:46 PM
dang thats enough milk for all of JSH for at least 15 years.....those just can't be real.....and if they are......how uncomfortable.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 01/03/08 01:04 PM
lol lol heck yes another person would have to go.....jk...... I love ya funches but don't trust those crazy hands of yours. don't worry I will try to leave my hands on your body so you can know where they are

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Thu 01/03/08 01:06 PM
To believe is to doubt... If you believe that, then you must doubt that statement. If you don't doubt that statement, then it is false. Doesn't belief negate doubt? Shouldn't it say "To suspect is to doubt"?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 01/03/08 01:14 PM
To believe is to doubt... If you believe that, then you must doubt that statement. If you don't doubt that statement, then it is false. Doesn't belief negate doubt? Shouldn't it say "To suspect is to doubt"? a belief is a belief because there is not enough sufficent evidence to claim it as fact or truth and this automatically implies doubt

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Thu 01/03/08 01:25 PM
To believe is to doubt... If you believe that, then you must doubt that statement. If you don't doubt that statement, then it is false. Doesn't belief negate doubt? Shouldn't it say "To suspect is to doubt"? a belief is a belief because there is not enough sufficent evidence to claim it as fact or truth and this automatically implies doubt belief Mental acceptance of and conviction in the truth, actuality, or validity of something There is no room for doubt in belief. If you believe something, you accept that it is true. If you doubt, then you don't believe.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 01/03/08 01:32 PM
There is no room for doubt in belief. If you believe something, you accept that it is true. If you doubt, then you don't believe. in a belief people will claim faith as an easy way to ignore the doubts ...if there were no doubts then the belief wouldn't be just a belief it would be truth