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Topic: "to believe is to doubt"
feralcatlady Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 35491	Thu 01/03/08 05:38 PM
My reality......God Is... My Truth.......Again God Is...... My Perception of my truth Vs. my reality........God Is. My Belief is that without question my God and my Faith are my best Rality and my BEST TRUTH...... belief plus faith can only equal doubt ..faith is only needed where doubt dwells NO DOUBTS HERE BABYCAKES

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 01/03/08 05:42 PM
My reality......God Is... My Truth.......Again God Is...... My Perception of my truth Vs. my reality........God Is. My Belief is that without question my God and my Faith are my best Rality and my BEST TRUTH...... belief plus faith can only equal doubt ..faith is only needed where doubt dwells NO DOUBTS HERE BABYCAKES that implies denial

Differentkindofwench Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 5960	Thu 01/03/08 05:45 PM
belief/faith = doubt yes.

Differentkindofwench Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 5960	Fri 01/04/08 01:55 PM
I'll take that as a no. Okay, funches, have you ever addressed the fact that you are trying to equate two synonyms with their antonym? are you referring to faith and delusion? yes, I'm referring to: faith/belief (synonyms) = doubt (antonym)

feralcatlady Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 35491	Fri 01/04/08 02:38 PM
belief/faith = doubt yes. no.....wrong way Faith + Belief = no doubts.....giggle.

feralcatlady Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 35491	Fri 01/04/08 02:39 PM
grabs funches and gives him a big huge hug.......lol

Differentkindofwench Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 5960	Fri 01/04/08 02:47 PM
Hey feral, when ya get done with your squonch fest of course, Yeah, I realized how that post was left to look, so I had to come back in and repost with the quotes. My intent was not agreement and I want that to be obvious.

feralcatlady Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 35491	Fri 01/04/08 02:50 PM
Oh no way....never had that impression......I think I would be struck by lighting first.....lol......Your one of a kind wench and as I said before......Believe what you wish....it will never mean I don't have massive amounts of respect and love.....there are some that believe the total opposite of me....who annoy me......but I have always liked the wench....

Differentkindofwench Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 5960	Fri 01/04/08 03:31 PM
Good, I like those style relationships, you've got your gig, I've got mine, as long as nobody hurts anybody else, well you know: Go ahead O-nnnnn with your badself!

feralcatlady Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 35491	Fri 01/04/08 03:36 PM
Although can't say what I might do if I see someone else hurting the lil wench....giggle giggle. <--------going on with my bad self...... I say that to my 15 year old all the time, "Get over your big bad ugly self."

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Fri 01/04/08 04:02 PM
a belief is a belief because the believer of that belief has not enough proof to claim it as fact, so anyone that claim to "believe" in the existence of God is in fact stating they have "doubts" about God's existance ..hence "to believe is to doubt" so are those that then try to pass off a belief in God as truth without the sufficient proof to make such a claim lying to oneself and to others, while using the word faith as a way to justify the deception "to believe is to doubt" ...there is just no way around this logic Yes there is. Some people can completely believe with no doubt. They just don't have proof. Just because others doubt doesnt mean they do.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 01/04/08 04:31 PM
I'll take that as a no. Okay, funches, have you ever addressed the fact that you are trying to equate two synonyms with their antonym? are you referring to faith and delusion? yes, I'm referring to: faith/belief (synonyms) = doubt (antonym) FAITH... is only needed when there is doubt ..I mean why else would you need it BELIEF is called a belief because there is too much doubt to call it fact/truth ..

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 01/04/08 04:32 PM
grabs funches and gives him a big huge hug.......lol be gentle with me

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Fri 01/04/08 04:33 PM
no Belief is only called belief because there is no proof. Others may doubt but that does not mean the individual in question doubts.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 01/04/08 04:34 PM
a belief is a belief because the believer of that belief has not enough proof to claim it as fact, so anyone that claim to "believe" in the existence of God is in fact stating they have "doubts" about God's existance ..hence "to believe is to doubt" so are those that then try to pass off a belief in God as truth without the sufficient proof to make such a claim lying to oneself and to others, while using the word faith as a way to justify the deception "to believe is to doubt" ...there is just no way around this logic Yes there is. Some people can completely believe with no doubt. They just don't have proof. Just because others doubt doesnt mean they do. that's called "truth without proof" and that impies deception ignorant bliss and/or delusion

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 01/04/08 04:36 PM
no Belief is only called belief because there is no proof. Others may doubt but that does not mean the individual in question doubts. that impies delusion on their part

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Fri 01/04/08 04:37 PM
So when people believed there were other planets in our solar system before we had the technology to prove it they were delusional, ignorant, or deceived? Thats an interesting theory.

chuck366 Joined Tue 10/16/07 Posts: 4666	Fri 01/04/08 04:38 PM
no Belief is only called belief because there is no proof. Others may doubt but that does not mean the individual in question doubts. that impies delusion on their part Its more of confusion not delusion. Your a confused dude.

Differentkindofwench Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 5960	Fri 01/04/08 05:18 PM
a belief is a belief because the believer of that belief has not enough proof to claim it as fact, so anyone that claim to "believe" in the existence of God is in fact stating they have "doubts" about God's existance ..hence "to believe is to doubt" so are those that then try to pass off a belief in God as truth without the sufficient proof to make such a claim lying to oneself and to others, while using the word faith as a way to justify the deception "to believe is to doubt" ...there is just no way around this logic Yes there is. Some people can completely believe with no doubt. They just don't have proof. Just because others doubt doesnt mean they do. that's called "truth without proof" and that impies deception ignorant bliss and/or delusion You would make an excellent ethics teacher or a tower of London guard. Man, you just will not budge. Truth without proof does not imply deception. Deception is the act of intentionally promoting a falsehood. Truth without proof is simply that, unsubstantiated truth of that person's perspective with no intent to deceive. When the means to present the proof of their truth becomes available, that same person will gladly present it to you. One practicing deception would not be so willing. Chaz, nice job.

Differentkindofwench Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 5960	Fri 01/04/08 05:22 PM
Thanks feral, I haven't had need for defensive tactics in some time and oddly enough, a lot of people find me scary. Must be the borderline lunatic-ability......