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Topic: "to believe is to doubt"
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Sat 12/15/07 03:49 PM

Yup, I well remember that thread. So what are you saying any time I have a direct question for you, you'd prefer I pull up that thread and place it there?

Okay, I'll quit screwing around here, what did I not directly answer?


nope what I'm saying is that I don't evade answering questions pertaining to the topic

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Sat 12/15/07 04:00 PM


Actually, you are incorrect due to the "accepted" definitions (i.e. those found in a dictionary GASP!) of the words, "belief and know" versus your synonymous point of view of the definitions of the two words belief and doubt. Myyyyyy "unwillingness" to answer a direct question? laugh laugh laugh Hell-O, pot to kettle, oh do come in kettle. (Seems to be an abundance of that in threads lately). This must be a reflection of your own unwillingness to do that of which you accuse so many.


sorry feisty wench but you yourself started a thread called "ask funches" and I came in that thread and agreed to answer all questions within reasons ..but you guys avoid answering questions like the plague and try to spin doctor around them like lawyers in an attempt to hide ...er..how did Jess said it... the true "who"

Funches you're being hypocritical here. How am I supposed to figure out how to follow this thread's train of thought with no clue where the friggin track is, let alone the depot to get on that track?

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Sat 12/15/07 04:28 PM


Yup, I well remember that thread. So what are you saying any time I have a direct question for you, you'd prefer I pull up that thread and place it there?

Okay, I'll quit screwing around here, what did I not directly answer?


nope what I'm saying is that I don't evade answering questions pertaining to the topic

Neither did I - we don't agree on the basis of logic. Hell, quite frankly I don't even begin to perceive logic in that "to believe is to doubt" statement. Are you helping anybody to expand their basis of perception to understand it?

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Sat 12/15/07 04:30 PM

Funches you're being hypocritical here. How am I supposed to figure out how to follow this thread's train of thought with no clue where the friggin track is, let alone the depot to get on that track?


feisty wench..the title of the thread is "to believe is to doubt" ..you were having trouble with the definitions of the words "believe and "know" ..so who better to explain these definitions than you yourself so that is why I asked you this question ..feisty wench do you "believe" you exist or do you "know" you exist ..so now all you have to do is answer that simple question

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Sat 12/15/07 04:39 PM
I did. BOTH! You didn't agree with my answer. I answer questions based on a dictionary definition of the words included in the question and the word placement structure of the question. I've been a Medical Transcriptionist since I was 16, word meaning and implication go with the territory.

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Sat 12/15/07 05:03 PM

I did. BOTH! You didn't agree with my answer. I answer questions based on a dictionary definition of the words included in the question and the word placement structure of the question. I've been a Medical Transcriptionist since I was 16, word meaning and implication go with the territory.


and since your answer is "Both" then you are confused as to if you exist or not ..if you believe you exist means you don't have enough proof to actually know you exist ...you only believe you know of your existence

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Sat 12/15/07 09:58 PM
I know I exist and I believe I exist because like all souls, I am, just as much as you are.

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Sun 12/16/07 01:35 AM
Edited by Jess642 on Sun 12/16/07 01:36 AM


Funches, I know the 'who' of me.... I see it reflected in every face I see, every action of another, every word across a page...

Some I pick up, examine, and discard, as it is not an authentic of me.

You have one line drawn, on one side, 'delusional Christians and christians in denial', in any capacity, only one box.


On the other you have you.....and only you.


No wonder you ask so many questions, you have separated yourself, isolated yourself, and allowed yourself to disconnect from the all.


Please step across that line.... please allow yourself to be, amongst us, please don't hold yourself separate, that is when one feels lonely.


You are interesting, and although you come here to 'debate' 101, there is a much stronger community here, of all understandings in their faiths, beliefs, whatnots...

And we have welcomed you, to become....not to stand there alone.

I don't like to think of you all alone, having to judge us, and decide that we are not worthy..... that's a cold and lonely place to stand.

Come and join us in the sunshine, please?

Show the real you, the 52 year old man... behind the pretend picture, please?

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sounds delusional to me


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Sounds delusional to you?

Nice little box you sit in Funches.

Nice safe, small, dry box...perhaps you need a hand with the lid?

Shame, you almost appeared lucid for a minute there..laugh :wink:

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Sun 12/16/07 03:50 AM
stops in...with gloves and dust mask. scoops box and is off...

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Sun 12/16/07 06:50 AM

I know I exist and I believe I exist because like all souls, I am, just as much as you are.


to first say that you know then in the same instance to then say that you believe because "I Am" only indictates that you are not sure that "you are"

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Sun 12/16/07 08:01 AM

I did. BOTH! You didn't agree with my answer. I answer questions based on a dictionary definition of the words included in the question and the word placement structure of the question. I've been a Medical Transcriptionist since I was 16, word meaning and implication go with the territory.


Seems when you answer his question, it is a wrong answer =) to have your own opinion

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Sun 12/16/07 08:03 AM
Thought about a concept that applies to topics. "If you leave the kid alone he will start to scream, when he realizes that no one is listening he stops".

Apply it to this thread

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Sun 12/16/07 08:44 AM

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Sounds delusional to you?

Nice little box you sit in Funches.

Nice safe, small, dry box...perhaps you need a hand with the lid?

Shame, you almost appeared lucid for a minute there..laugh :wink:


jess aren't you the one that's in the christian in denial box..you can't even acknowledge your own existence without shrouding it in the fantasy of your beliefs ..the belief that you are forbidden to venture beyond

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Sun 12/16/07 08:46 AM

Thought about a concept that applies to topics. "If you leave the kid alone he will start to scream, when he realizes that no one is listening he stops".

Apply it to this thread


apply it to yourself

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Sun 12/16/07 02:49 PM

here it is the definitive answer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjGRySVyTDk

I'm sorry Slow, I just looked at the cat and thought it was invisible. Whoops, thanks slow.

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Sun 12/16/07 03:41 PM


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Sounds delusional to you?

Nice little box you sit in Funches.

Nice safe, small, dry box...perhaps you need a hand with the lid?

Shame, you almost appeared lucid for a minute there..laugh :wink:


jess aren't you the one that's in the christian in denial box..you can't even acknowledge your own existence without shrouding it in the fantasy of your beliefs ..the belief that you are forbidden to venture beyond


No, you tried to plonk me in the christian in denial box....but I don't fit.sad

(probably because I don't identify with christianity..:wink: laugh )


Who is forbidding me to venture beyond, my beliefs?

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Sun 12/16/07 03:55 PM




I know what I know.......


without sufficient evidence beyond the mind and/or faith you can only "believe" you know


you are wrong......you can also know what you know....and know one can tell you or even think they have a clue what you know....You know....giggle....heart ya funches




ahhhh funches my lil pookie butt. You also know what I know but you would never admit that you know I know.......again you know.....

but feralcatlady my angelic friend.. all you "know" is what you "believe"

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Mon 12/17/07 05:06 AM



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Sounds delusional to you?

Nice little box you sit in Funches.

Nice safe, small, dry box...perhaps you need a hand with the lid?

Shame, you almost appeared lucid for a minute there..laugh :wink:


jess aren't you the one that's in the christian in denial box..you can't even acknowledge your own existence without shrouding it in the fantasy of your beliefs ..the belief that you are forbidden to venture beyond


No, you tried to plonk me in the christian in denial box....but I don't fit.sad

(probably because I don't identify with christianity..:wink: laugh )


Who is forbidding me to venture beyond, my beliefs?


you are forbidding yourself ..and the fact that you are confuse as to your existence not knowing if you are a figment of someone's else imagination shows the fantasy you wish to exist in and shows your "christian in denial"-ness

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Mon 12/17/07 05:07 AM





I know what I know.......


without sufficient evidence beyond the mind and/or faith you can only "believe" you know


you are wrong......you can also know what you know....and know one can tell you or even think they have a clue what you know....You know....giggle....heart ya funches




ahhhh funches my lil pookie butt. You also know what I know but you would never admit that you know I know.......again you know.....

but feralcatlady my angelic friend.. all you "know" is what you "believe"



"to believe is to doubt"

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Mon 12/17/07 05:09 AM
And how do you know this Funches?

How do you know what I say is not truth?

What can you use to substantiate your claims?

Have you died yet? Left your body behind? Clinically dead?

Do you know what comes next?

bigsmile



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