Topic: "to believe is to doubt"
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Fri 10/31/08 07:00 PM




Wake up funches I have always said this.

Stripping away everything else, this has always been my bottom line. The final statement.


"JennieBean" your religious programming keep forcing you to add a God to that little senerio ..


I am that god. What god are you referring to?


well it was something you said in a post a long long time ago in a thread far far away ..of you being a part of a greater God ...also you have that whole weird "universal mind" thing going on


All is one therefore I am one and I am all.









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Fri 10/31/08 07:41 PM





Wake up funches I have always said this.

Stripping away everything else, this has always been my bottom line. The final statement.


"JennieBean" your religious programming keep forcing you to add a God to that little senerio ..


I am that god. What god are you referring to?


well it was something you said in a post a long long time ago in a thread far far away ..of you being a part of a greater God ...also you have that whole weird "universal mind" thing going on


All is one therefore I am one and I am all.


you will be assimulated ... resistance is futile ...we are Borg

"JennieBean" you are such a trekkie

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Fri 10/31/08 08:11 PM






Wake up funches I have always said this.

Stripping away everything else, this has always been my bottom line. The final statement.


"JennieBean" your religious programming keep forcing you to add a God to that little senerio ..


I am that god. What god are you referring to?


well it was something you said in a post a long long time ago in a thread far far away ..of you being a part of a greater God ...also you have that whole weird "universal mind" thing going on


All is one therefore I am one and I am all.


you will be assimulated ... resistance is futile ...we are Borg

"JennieBean" you are such a trekkie


No, I am the one, so it is YOU who will be assimilated.

Resistance is futile.:banana:

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Fri 10/31/08 08:18 PM

No, I am the one, so it is YOU who will be assimilated.

Resistance is futile.:banana:


come on "JennieBean" I don't want to be Borg or control by some universal mind of the collective...I thought you said I had to agree to be part of your holographic projected reality

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Sat 11/01/08 06:31 AM


No, I am the one, so it is YOU who will be assimilated.

Resistance is futile.:banana:


come on "JennieBean" I don't want to be Borg or control by some universal mind of the collective...I thought you said I had to agree to be part of your holographic projected reality


I was just kidding.bigsmile

You can be anything you want to be, and go anywhere you want to go.

drinker


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Sat 11/01/08 10:23 AM


I am gravely sorry that you can not feel faith without doubt.

It is a wonderful feeling... Faith in and of itself... One that I would hope all on the earth experience at least once in this lifetime.

Love would then be more to us all than money,war and power... Which the earth could stand to have a lot less of.


"AdventureBegins" do you need faith that you exist? ...or do you know that you exist

does it matter which is what...

I am therefore I am.

Faith is not something I 'need'...

It is given to me as a gift.

It is just there as am I.

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Sat 11/01/08 10:30 AM



I am gravely sorry that you can not feel faith without doubt.

It is a wonderful feeling... Faith in and of itself... One that I would hope all on the earth experience at least once in this lifetime.

Love would then be more to us all than money,war and power... Which the earth could stand to have a lot less of.


"AdventureBegins" do you need faith that you exist? ...or do you know that you exist

does it matter which is what...

I am therefore I am.

Faith is not something I 'need'...

It is given to me as a gift.

It is just there as am I.


"AdventureBegins" yes it does matter since you claim to need faith ..so I guess it goes against your faith to answer the question ...do you need faith to believe you exist or do you know that you exist

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Sat 11/01/08 10:34 AM




I am gravely sorry that you can not feel faith without doubt.

It is a wonderful feeling... Faith in and of itself... One that I would hope all on the earth experience at least once in this lifetime.

Love would then be more to us all than money,war and power... Which the earth could stand to have a lot less of.


"AdventureBegins" do you need faith that you exist? ...or do you know that you exist

does it matter which is what...

I am therefore I am.

Faith is not something I 'need'...

It is given to me as a gift.

It is just there as am I.


"AdventureBegins" yes it does matter since you claim to need faith ..so I guess it goes against your faith to answer the question ...do you need faith to believe you exist or do you know that you exist

Where have I claimed to NEED faith? Please enlighten me or stop making your words attempt to fit in my statements.

I AM... What are you?

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Sat 11/01/08 10:43 AM

Where have I claimed to NEED faith? Please enlighten me or stop making your words attempt to fit in my statements.

I AM... What are you?


Geez 'AdventureBegins" do you ever read your own posts... once again I have to remind you of something you said


AdventureBegins" said
I am gravely sorry that you can not feel faith without doubt.


which is why I asked the question ..do you need faith to believe you exist or do you know that you exist ... ..so are you going to answer it ..or keep pleading the 5th

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Sat 11/01/08 10:47 AM


Where have I claimed to NEED faith? Please enlighten me or stop making your words attempt to fit in my statements.

I AM... What are you?


Geez 'AdventureBegins" do you ever read your own posts... once again I have to remind you of something you said


AdventureBegins" said
I am gravely sorry that you can not feel faith without doubt.


which is why I asked the question ..do you need faith to believe you exist or do you know that you exist ... ..so are you going to answer it ..or keep pleading the 5th

You,sir, have misunderstood...

I am gravely sorry that YOU can not feel faith without doubt... I have allways had a deep, abiding faith...

I am... I need say no more for that is answer enough.

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Sat 11/01/08 10:50 AM



Where have I claimed to NEED faith? Please enlighten me or stop making your words attempt to fit in my statements.

I AM... What are you?


Geez 'AdventureBegins" do you ever read your own posts... once again I have to remind you of something you said


AdventureBegins" said
I am gravely sorry that you can not feel faith without doubt.


which is why I asked the question ..do you need faith to believe you exist or do you know that you exist ... ..so are you going to answer it ..or keep pleading the 5th

You,sir, have misunderstood...

I am gravely sorry that YOU can not feel faith without doubt... I have allways had a deep, abiding faith...

I am... I need say no more for that is answer enough.


"AdventureBegins" in that case I feel gravely sorry for you

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Sat 11/01/08 10:54 AM




Where have I claimed to NEED faith? Please enlighten me or stop making your words attempt to fit in my statements.

I AM... What are you?


Geez 'AdventureBegins" do you ever read your own posts... once again I have to remind you of something you said


AdventureBegins" said
I am gravely sorry that you can not feel faith without doubt.


which is why I asked the question ..do you need faith to believe you exist or do you know that you exist ... ..so are you going to answer it ..or keep pleading the 5th

You,sir, have misunderstood...

I am gravely sorry that YOU can not feel faith without doubt... I have allways had a deep, abiding faith...

I am... I need say no more for that is answer enough.


"AdventureBegins" in that case I feel gravely sorry for you

Thank you for your concern...

Just as I do not need faith...

I do not need your concern...

It is a factor of YOUR reality...

My reality is unaffected by it.

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Sat 11/01/08 11:00 AM
Edited by funches on Sat 11/01/08 11:01 AM

Thank you for your concern...

Just as I do not need faith...

I do not need your concern...

It is a factor of YOUR reality...

My reality is unaffected by it.


"AdventureBegins" ..since the title of this thread is "to believe is to doubt" ..so why have a conniption fit if I ask you that question ...don't worry those that worship a god always do

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Mon 11/03/08 06:37 AM
oooo, joy, rapture, IT'SSSSSSSSS ba----aaa--ck. The original of this thread has provoked much thought on my part of how to disprove this puppy in a way in which even your mind cannot dispute. I have given up on that fantasy. Be well, be happy! Other readers: Whether or not you can prove or disprove something - pick your battles. Some are worth the energy; others are just not.

Without thought or doubt, would a search be undertaken? Can a "fact" be born without some sort of doubt needing to be resolved?

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Mon 11/03/08 06:51 AM
Edited by feralcatlady on Mon 11/03/08 06:53 AM
The Road Of Faith


Shine your light O Lord
So that I may see
Just where I am heading
And what’s in front of me

Your word is the light
The lamp unto my feet
It may not light far ahead
Nor show me where it’s steep

But it gives enough light
For each step I take
Just enough to see ahead
Along this road of faith

For this is what it surely is
As we walk with Jesus Christ
The road that we are travelling on
Is by faith, not by sight

So shine your light O Lord
So we may see our way
Though you only show in part
It’s enough for each new day


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Mon 11/03/08 09:04 AM


Thank you for your concern...

Just as I do not need faith...

I do not need your concern...

It is a factor of YOUR reality...

My reality is unaffected by it.


"AdventureBegins" ..since the title of this thread is "to believe is to doubt" ..so why have a conniption fit if I ask you that question ...don't worry those that worship a god always do

Please discribe 'conniption fit'... I have simply not agreed with you assement of 'doubt'... Those that worship a god allways do what?

When have I ever stated that I 'worship' anything.

I live, I breath, I am.

To worship something would take away from that reality...

I am simply IS... There is no need to worship it.

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Mon 11/03/08 09:46 AM

oooo, joy, rapture, IT'SSSSSSSSS ba----aaa--ck. The original of this thread has provoked much thought on my part of how to disprove this puppy in a way in which even your mind cannot dispute. I have given up on that fantasy. Be well, be happy! Other readers: Whether or not you can prove or disprove something - pick your battles. Some are worth the energy; others are just not.

Without thought or doubt, would a search be undertaken? Can a "fact" be born without some sort of doubt needing to be resolved?


"feistywench" was you not born without doubt that your existence was fact

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Mon 11/03/08 10:24 AM

The Road Of Faith


Shine your light O Lord
So that I may see
Just where I am heading
And what’s in front of me

because oh lord dear lord
it's all about you and me
with you oh lord I will never hurt
God da_n I bumped my knee


Your word is the light
The lamp unto my feet
It may not light far ahead
Nor show me where it’s steep

but can you make it bright enough
so aleast that I can see
so I won't keep tripping over my feet
these shoes are killing me


But it gives enough light
For each step I take
Just enough to see ahead
Along this road of faith

but please keep on the light
to view the steps I take
because you said I will roast in hell
if ever I lose my faith


For this is what it surely is
As we walk with Jesus Christ
The road that we are travelling on
Is by faith, not by sight

so if I'm to go by faith
instead of going by sight
then tell me oh oh lord
why you ask me do I see the light


So shine your light O Lord
So we may see our way
Though you only show in part
It’s enough for each new day

it's enough for each new day
it's more than just a spiel
either way I can't complain
because it's all God's will

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Mon 11/03/08 10:38 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 11/03/08 10:38 AM
Please describe 'conniption fit'...


Tantrum:
Rolling on the floor, kicking, screaming with your eyes closed.

conniption fit:
cover up your ears, and sing Na na na na na! I can't here you..!


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Mon 11/03/08 10:40 AM

Please discribe 'conniption fit'... I have simply not agreed with you assement of 'doubt'... Those that worship a god allways do what?


"AdventureBegins" those that worship a God always never answer the question

do you believe you exist or do you know that you exist

they do like you are doing ..evasion of the question while parrot-phrasing ..clearly a lack of faith