Topic: Hate
Tom4Uhere's photo
Tue 06/26/18 09:03 AM

Tom, diserli
I was in the same situation a few years ago.
I lost my girlfriend to a drink driver.
Some people can forgive some can't.
It's ok saying sorry after the event but they definitely didn't give a chit when they got in the car and drove!
I'm not even going to say sorry for hating him,
I do and that's that.
Now whenever I see someone who has been drinking and about to drive I'll stop them or call the police!

I refuse to drive even if I only had one beer.
This is why I don't go to bars.
The cost is too high and I won't chance doing to someone else what was done to me.
Every car I see parked outside a bar is a potential killer.
The bars around here have packed parking lots.

Drunk drivers disgust me but I don't hate them.

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Tue 06/26/18 09:07 AM
Tom, I don't think it's a negative feeling /response. it's the act itself that dictates our response.
Yes in many cases it's a negative and yes love and hate are used far too easily.

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Tue 06/26/18 09:19 AM
I hear what you're saying Tom, but here is the reality.

its depends on the individual, no two people are alike as they say.

you know there is a difference between a self made successful person vs non successful person.

They view things differently.

A successful person looks at an opportunity and thinks hmmm, what if this works?

A non successful person looks at the same opportunity and thinks, what if this doesn't work and comes up with all excuses.

You are saying Hate consumes and conjures negative feelings etc.

yes that is true for some people, but not for all people some of us uses hate to motive or inspire and builds are discernment skills.

Ive used my experiences of hate to learn about people and to surround myself around like minded and good people and to avoid certain types of people.

While some uses their experience of hate for destructive reasons.

you cant lump all that hates under one umbrella is what Im saying.



Tom4Uhere's photo
Tue 06/26/18 09:23 AM

Tom, I don't think it's a negative feeling /response. it's the act itself that dictates our response.
Yes in many cases it's a negative and yes love and hate are used far too easily.

There are 3 distinct separations of emotion.
1. Positive emotions like love and joy
2. Neutral emotions like contentment and placation
3. Negative emotions like fear and hatred

Actions and the consequences of those action are reality.
Its how we perceive them that makes them neg/pos.

For a long time I thought of my divorce as something negative.
I saw it as a failure of commitment and dedication.
It was very hard for me to push it thru.
I've since realized that it was a good thing, has many positive aspects.
The divorce didn't change, my outlook on it did.

BlakeIAM's photo
Tue 06/26/18 09:24 AM
To hate evil is a positive.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Tue 06/26/18 09:45 AM
You are saying Hate consumes and conjures negative feelings etc.

Thats not what I'm saying at all.
Everyone has negative feelings.
What I'm saying is that not all negative feelings are hate.
Hate is the extreme.

some of us uses hate to motive or inspire and builds are discernment skills.

I see that as wisdom.
Wisdom is built from the things we experience and perceive, both good and bad.
We use our intelligence to build wisdom from those experiences and perceptions.

you cant lump all that hates under one umbrella is what Im saying.

Perhaps this is where my responses are not understood...
You used the plural "hates" to infer that there is more than one hate.
I see hate as the extreme end of a scale.
LOVE<<<<<<<<<<<<INDIFFERENCE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HATE

Most people operate in the middle areas with spikes to the ends.
Very few people exist in the extreme ends of that scale.

People with a negative mindset operate within the hate side with spikes towards the love side.
People with a positive mindset operate within the love side with spikes towards the hate side.

Embracing one or the other makes you prone to that anticipation.

If you are a balloon and everything you see is sharp you are negatively set.
If you are a balloon and everything you see is soft you are positively set.

I stopped living by anticipating bad things.
Instead, I prepare for the worst and live for the best.

I do know we are all different.
Anyone that has read any of my remarks on this forum knows I know that.
All I do is offer up something to think about.
It makes absolutely no difference to me what anyone says or does because I don't live behind their eyes.
I have contentment.
I have inner peace.
I am no longer stressed out.
I don't live in fear or hatred for the world anymore.
I'm alive and I am going to make the best out of what few days I have remaining.
If you want to embrace hate - go for it.

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Tue 06/26/18 10:42 AM
Edited by diserli_gears on Tue 06/26/18 10:46 AM

Perhaps this is where my responses are not understood...
You used the plural "hates" to infer that there is more than one hate.
I see hate as the extreme end of a scale.
LOVE<<<<<<<<<<<<INDIFFERENCE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HATE


and I respect that but some of us dont see it that way.


People with a negative mindset operate within the hate side with spikes towards the love side.
People with a positive mindset operate within the love side with spikes towards the hate side.


I honestly dont know what that even means.



If you are a balloon and everything you see is sharp you are negatively set.
If you are a balloon and everything you see is soft you are positively set.


okay, but if you're a balloon that counters sharp objects all the love and positive thinking will not protect the balloon against being punctured.

I stopped living by anticipating bad things.
Instead, I prepare for the worst and live for the best.


that has nothing to do with love or hate.


I don't live in fear or hatred for the world anymore.


I dont live in fear or hatred for the world, Im pragmatic and understand that good and evil exist, ignoring it or putting my head in the sand doesn't make it better, its makes me more prepared.

Off topic, its like Churchill and Chamberlain pre WW2, Churchill was the opposition leader ( people who live in parliamentary system will understand this) warning the public about the Nazi's and most people including Chamberlain dismissed as a paranoid nudnik and a hateful man who was bigoted because of his distrust of Hitler and Nazi Germany, not the German people but people accused of being bigoted towards Germans.

But says nothing about FDR's racism and hatred of the Japanese people?

Anyways History has proved Churchill was correct .


If you want to embrace hate - go for it.



I'm more than fine with my embrace Tom, I sleep well at night and my life is pretty damn good if I do say so my self, the people I hate I have nothing to with but Im aware of them but they dont consume my life.







Tom4Uhere's photo
Tue 06/26/18 12:05 PM
I'm going to stop now.
I've said what I think and its out there.
Its not important to me to be right or wrong and like what's already been said, we're all different.

I dislike the word hate.
I dislike the personalities that express themselves in hate.
I may dislike it but I can accept it.
I don't see from behind anyone else's eyes.
Only mine.

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Tue 06/26/18 04:45 PM




It is hard to resist the temptation towards hating people. But its worth it. Lets keep it in mind participating in these threads ...


Disagreement is not hate. Wishing death and harm upon others is.





That very well can be whats wrong in our country ...

I try to remember it is not the person I hate ... it is the action...

they may have done or do ...

True -> Disagreement is not hate. Wishing death and harm upon others is.

msharmony's photo
Tue 06/26/18 10:33 PM





It is hard to resist the temptation towards hating people. But its worth it. Lets keep it in mind participating in these threads ...


Disagreement is not hate. Wishing death and harm upon others is.





That very well can be whats wrong in our country ...

I try to remember it is not the person I hate ... it is the action...

they may have done or do ...

True -> Disagreement is not hate. Wishing death and harm upon others is.



flowerforyou

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Wed 06/27/18 09:51 AM
What does blondey hate .. censorship ... lmao ....
There are times I would love to freely open Pandora's box laugh laugh :wink:

msharmony's photo
Wed 06/27/18 11:05 AM
I was thinking the topic may turn into what it was based around ...

deep.


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Wed 06/27/18 11:13 AM
Hidden agenda ms harmony .. hardly deep laugh laugh differing opinions and insults does not necessarily equate to hate .. more competitive sparring ...they still have their limbs intact :wink:

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Wed 06/27/18 11:22 AM
okay.

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Wed 06/27/18 12:55 PM
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Wed 06/27/18 02:09 PM
Probably nobody wants to hear this, and I’m not about to argue my personal thoughts on it, but I think hatred is a natural and healthy feeling when someone takes something precious from you. Especially a life.

What’s not okay is acting on it. What’s not healthy is clinging to it and allowing it to eat you up and consume your own life. Know that you hate them and that it’s okay to feel that way. Don’t feed it, just accept it so you can move past it.

Larsi666 😽's photo
Wed 06/27/18 02:20 PM
We can't love everything and everybody. And it is not possible to be loved by everything and everybody. But it is possible to avoid those things we don't like.

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Wed 06/27/18 02:31 PM

Probably nobody wants to hear this, and I’m not about to argue my personal thoughts on it, but I think hatred is a natural and healthy feeling when someone takes something precious from you. Especially a life.

What’s not okay is acting on it. What’s not healthy is clinging to it and allowing it to eat you up and consume your own life. Know that you hate them and that it’s okay to feel that way. Don’t feed it, just accept it so you can move past it.



shybutkind , bingo bango and bongo.

exactly what I was saying, and you said more succinctly.


msharmony's photo
Wed 06/27/18 02:32 PM

We can't love everything and everybody. And it is not possible to be loved by everything and everybody. But it is possible to avoid those things we don't like.


I agree we cant and shouldnt love EVERYTHING. I disagree that we cant love everybody, at least on a HUMANE level.

I agree we cant be loved by everybody.

and it is possible, though not always practical or simple, to avoid things or people we dislike.

I believe my perception of hate is more of a consuming and passionate emotion than one that is fleeting enough to 'move on' from ,,, so to speak.

that kind of consumption is only harming the one consumed by it, imho, and therefore a waste.

Larsi666 😽's photo
Wed 06/27/18 02:40 PM
Human beings are different, nobody is the same. We all have preferences, based on experiences we made. That's why I said, we can't love everybody. But we should accept those, who are different from us. And leave them be.