you won't answer the question "esso" because you can't ....er..don't worry I won't tell anyone

funny creativesoul..this coming from someone with a fake profile picture ..place a picture up of yourself then talk...how many difference profiles do you hide behind on this site

No my good man, not funny...seriously, all joking aside...

Your spelling goes out the window at times...

Your writing style completely changes often...

At times it seems that there is an intellectual somewhere in there, and at other times not...???

It is what you have shown...I am merely holding up a mirror for you.... and the reflections scream out loud...

you'll talking about Miracle on 34th Street ..it's good to know that the citizens of the united states of america believes in everything their government backs up

Funches,

In pure Christian thought, the destiny is facing God,JHWH, in judgement.

But position within that destiny is offered that differenciates the ultimate outcome of the eternal consequence experienced by each individual soul beyond the confines of the flesh.

Christ taught that the indwelling of the Holy Spirit was the highest prize of human apprehension and would come upon any and all that would yield to receiving it.

Accepting that no trickery is being employed, to further deceive and torment man, one could find oneself disposed to acquiring a better position in the intended outcome, be it so that there is an intended and predeterminate outcome for each and every unique and precious soul.

That is the ultimate risk.

To receive the absolution of adverse judgement against one's own instincts, acts, intentions and motivations.

The bravery and courage required is the ultimate expression of living and not dying.

That apprehension is the most dangerous and vulnerable adventure any soul could present oneself to.

And should it be rewarded well, the outcome is one of unspeakable joy and unexpressable with words, actions, intent or further endeavor.

The best that can be said of it is thaksgiving to God, JHWH, because no one else can comprehend it, other than those who already have apprehended it.

It is rare and not for the weak of heart to enter into.

But the surrender is only distinguishable as effortless on the other side.

This is very much a self policing secret known only to the knowing that have leapt by faith.

Walking on water, it is.

er...creativesoul.. someone in this very thread said the same about you ..now please get your fake profile self back on topic

so what the point of praying or worshipping if the destiny is already etched ...sorry wouldee it's no way around this destiny thing

funches,


Destiny is not inescapable.

Position in destiny is .

Which position is preferred is the choice of any one individual.


Position and destiny leave nothing unexplored.

Be it now, later or never.

In the meantime, we do what we do and it is what it is.

The beauty of this...

I am not uncomfortable with my own pursuit of that which rests well within me... what I pick up... or what I lay down...

The problem you have described does not live within me...

I no longer feel the "need" to validate my own belief system through the suppression of another's... however, I once did...

They are all quite valid, and very real to the individual... and THAT, my friend, is what is important... each person has their own progression through life... and it is what they need at the time...

I truly do wish your peace to be found, in your own way...

One believes what one creates, and one creates what one believes

by saiding destiny is not inescapble therefore lessen the power of the God by saiding the God is not all knowing or have a divine plan

dude ..enough of the parables ..just said you can't answer the question

"However, when one attempts to ‘describe’ a theory that has no visible or tangible evidence and no ‘viability’, other than faith, they are in fact projecting a thought pattern that can only be considered abstractly, often it means to forgo current ‘knowledge’, both requirements are , in fact, an invitation into the delusional."

What if there were to be represented 'tangible proof of ones faith. People raised from the dead, miraculous healings in Jesus name, documentation and doctors records of such instances. These exist. theory is just a system of thought with no conclusive end for it is not grounded in reality. I posses this knowlege to convey 'help' to others. Peddling mere ideas is a path with no destination or purpose. I find that science has proved God for what is science but the witnessing of fact and the study of nature. You can rationalize that watching nature change without understanding of how it's done is scientific by observation but also faith based because it is unexplainable. (for instance wastching a womans leg grow to full size after being diagnosed with scoliosis and being instantly healed from it.) It is both observable and unexplainable. That is faith, knowing a fact but being unable to duplicate it by human endeavors.

funches said:

dude ..enough of the parables ..just said you can't answer the question


<<<<<<< I have no need to answer the question, my friend, you do >>>>>>>

Funches,



I am answering your first question last as I perceive it needs the balance offered by the latter as a prerequisite.


Prayer and worship require knowledge of to whom this prayer and worship is directed.

Prior establishment of the whom establishes the truthful sincerity of the acts of prayer and worship.

It is not a paradox nor is it an oxymoron.

It is the genuine practice of wholeness of being and the means to that selfsame wholeness.

The means is done in ignorance and willfully embracing many fallacies.

But in the end, the justification is preeminent and there is the evidence of the absolutions offered.

Beyond comprehension, it is participation in the truth that truly east is as far from west as west is from east, and deserving of the experience now as opposed to later, if one is so inclined to partake of.

God knows everything that has, is or will happen.

God doesn't choose our destiny, we do. We are free willed moral agent, which means we make our own moral decisions. Our decisions will determine how we are judged when the time comes.

God can remove our free will, Pharoah is a good example. God gave Pharoah six chances and then removed Pharoah's free will. At that point, Pharoah was used as "vessel for wrath". This is the only time in the Bible that God actually removed someone's free will.

God observes us. We are being tested, to see if we will willingly serve God.

God blesses each of us and shows no favortism for those who love Him vs those who hate Him.

Why does evil happen? Why do teachers let their students fail their tests? Interfering will prevent the tester from properly testing the subject. God interfers rarely and always in a planned and controlled way.

When all is said and done, we will receive the punishment or reward that we deserve, based on our decisions in life.

God's power is a different issue.

God's power is not diminished by man's destiny.

Nor is God's power magnified by man's destiny.

God's power is God's.

Ours is ours.

creativesoul are you on parable overload? ..this is a forum where you answer or try to answer the topic question ..please enough of the kung-fu parables as to disguise you un-ability to answer it ...apparently

have you ever said anything nice to anyone in your entire life?

prayer and worship requires the "need" for something ..the God would have known far in advance what the need was which means that the need should have been fulfilled before the need ever arise so therefore why is prayer and worship required unless to feed the ego of the God or to give hope to the hopeless

how can you choose your own destiny within life when the actions of others can change the happenstance that take place in your life ..