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Stop Cat, you'll overwhelm him. He doesn't 'want' truth. just wants to fight it.
REVEEEEEENNNGE!! 
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For those who believe no explanation is necessary ... for those who do not none will suffice.
Nuff said. |
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Short and succinct, nice job New!
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still the same ol stuff i see
and on and on it goes wonder if ti is gonna go on to round two hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm |
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To describe God it takes an open mind to hear what the description entails and not to just be blown off by a closed minded individual. To understand what God is ---you have to have a closeness with compassion--or you cannot understand even a basic description. You have to look into your own hearts and minds to begin to understand God.
But the answer lies here-------------> Faith + the fact that not everyone will comprehend what God is / means / or even feels like. Because there are some that are not of God---and everyone can understand that---Evil people are all around and everyone has undoubtedly run across them in their lives. But the breakdown is that not all people are deep down good people and even God acknowledges the fact that certain people won't comprehend Him (until it's too late that is). But remember the Bible says---- "There is only One that is lost" meaning that only Satan himself can never be forgiven for going against God, but we can (if we choose to). |
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Wed 12/05/07 01:43 AM
To describe God it takes an open mind to hear what the description entails and not to just be blown off by a closed minded individual. To understand what God is ---you have to have a closeness with compassion--or you cannot understand even a basic description. You have to look into your own hearts and minds to begin to understand God. But the answer lies here-------------> Faith + the fact that not everyone will comprehend what God is / means / or even feels like. Because there are some that are not of God---and everyone can understand that---Evil people are all around and everyone has undoubtedly run across them in their lives. But the breakdown is that not all people are deep down good people and even God acknowledges the fact that certain people won't comprehend Him (until it's too late that is). But remember the Bible says---- "There is only One that is lost" meaning that only Satan himself can never be forgiven for going against God, |
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Well as I am leaving.....Here are a few not only different names of Jesus but also scripture where it is found. Advocate (1 John 2:1) Almighty (Rev. 1:8; Mt. 28:18) Alpha and Omega (Rev. 1:8; 22:13) Amen (Rev. 3:14) Apostle of our Profession (Heb. 3:1) Atoning Sacrifice for our Sins (1 John 2:2) Author of Life (Acts 3:15) Author and Perfecter of our Faith (Heb. 12:2) Author of Salvation (Heb. 2:10) Beginning and End (Rev. 22:13) Blessed and only Ruler (1 Tim. 6:15) Bread of God (John 6:33) Bread of Life (John 6:35; 6:48) Bridegroom (Mt. 9:15) Capstone (Acts 4:11; 1 Pet. 2:7) Chief Cornerstone (Eph. 2:20) Chief Shepherd (1 Pet. 5:4) Christ (1 John 2:22) Creator (John 1:3) Deliverer (Rom. 11:26) Eternal Life (1 John 1:2; 5:20) Gate (John 10:9) Faithful and True (Rev. 19:11) Faithful Witness (Rev. 1:5) Faithful and True Witness (Rev. 3:14) First and Last (Rev. 1:17; 2:8; 22:13) Firstborn From the Dead (Rev. 1:5) Firstborn over all creation (Col. 1:15) Gate (John 10:9) God (John 1:1; 20:28; Heb. 1:8; Rom. 9:5; 2 Pet. 1:1;1 John 5:20; etc.) Good Shepherd (John 10:11,14) Great Shepherd (Heb. 13:20) Great High Priest (Heb. 4:14) Head of the Church (Eph. 1:22; 4:15; 5:23) Heir of all things (Heb. 1:2) High Priest (Heb. 2:17) Holy and True (Rev. 3:7) Holy One (Acts 3:14) Hope (1 Tim. 1:1) Hope of Glory (Col. 1:27) Horn of Salvation (Luke 1:69) I Am (John 8:58) Image of God (2 Cor. 4:4) Immanuel (Mt. 1:23) Judge of the living and the dead (Acts 10:42) King Eternal (1 Tim. 1:17) King of Israel (John 1:49) King of the Jews (Mt. 27:11) King of kings (1 Tim 6:15; Rev. 19:16) King of the Ages (Rev. 15:3) Lamb (Rev. 13:8) Lamb of God (John 1:29) Lamb Without Blemish (1 Pet. 1:19) Last Adam (1 Cor. 15:45) Life (John 14:6; Col. 3:4) Light of the World (John 8:12) Lion of the Tribe of Judah (Rev. 5:5) Living One (Rev. 1:18) Living Stone (1 Pet. 2:4) Lord (2 Pet. 2:20) Lord of All (Acts 10:36) Lord of Glory (1 Cor. 2:8) Lord of lords (Rev. 19:16) Man from Heaven (1 Cor. 15:48) Mediator of the New Covenant (Heb. 9:15) Mighty God (Isa. 9:6) Morning Star (Rev. 22:16) Offspring of David (Rev. 22:16) Only Begotten Son of God (John 1:18; 1 John 4:9) Our Great God and Savior (Titus 2:13) Our Holiness (1 Cor. 1:30) Our Husband (2 Cor. 11:2) Our Protection (2 Thess. 3:3) Our Redemption (1 Cor. 1:30) Our Righteousness (1 Cor. 1:30) Our Sacrificed Passover Lamb (1 Cor. 5:7) Power of God (1 Cor. 1:24) Precious Cornerstone (1 Pet. 2:6) Prophet (Acts 3:22) Rabbi (Mt. 26:25) Resurrection and Life (John 11:25) Righteous Branch (Jer. 23:5) Righteous One (Acts 7:52; 1 John 2:1) Rock (1 Cor. 10:4) Root of David (Rev. 5:5; 22:16) Ruler of God’s Creation (Rev. 3:14) Ruler of the Kings of the Earth (Rev. 1:5) Savior (Eph. 5:23; Titus 1:4; 3:6; 2 Pet. 2:20) Son of David (Lk. 18:39) Son of God (John 1:49; Heb. 4:14) Son of Man (Mt. 8:20) Son of the Most High God (Lk. 1:32) Source of Eternal Salvation for all who obey him (Heb. 5:9) The One Mediator (1 Tim. 2:5) The Stone the builders rejected (Acts 4:11) True Bread (John 6:32) True Light (John 1:9) True Vine (John 15:1) Truth (John 1:14; 14:6) Way (John 14:6) Wisdom of God (1 Cor. 1:24) Word (John 1:1) Word of God (Rev. 19:13) it's amazing how you can search through the bible to find all this but yet you can't find in the bible the passage when God said unto Moses "to stone all unruly children to death" ...you have closed your mind to not see or accept the obvious as you accuse others of the same ...and that is what faith is |
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Edited by
nuenjins
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Wed 12/05/07 08:39 AM
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"Me funches, me thinks it's amazing how you can search through the bible to find all this but yet you can't find in the bible the passage when God said unto Moses "to stone all unruly children to death" ...you have closed your mind to not see or accept the obvious as you accuse others of the same ...and that is what faith is"
You're just too damn lazy to read it and find out your wrong.
You think a miffed christian proves somthing about yourself, it only proves your lost and that you've frustrated sincere people. You provide nothing and contribute no facts, just idiotic one liners. 
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You provide nothing and contribute no facts, just idiotic one liners. I'm being to notice a touch of jealousy on your part about the one liners ..but anyway when are you going to stop going off topic to disguise the fact you can't describe God without sounding delusional ...come on give it a shot prove that you are more that a minion |
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I personally love the observation that Jesus will not heal amputees. Why does he hate amputees? |
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Well as I am leaving.....Here are a few not only different names of Jesus but also scripture where it is found. Advocate (1 John 2:1) Almighty (Rev. 1:8; Mt. 28:18) Alpha and Omega (Rev. 1:8; 22:13) Amen (Rev. 3:14) Apostle of our Profession (Heb. 3:1) Atoning Sacrifice for our Sins (1 John 2:2) Author of Life (Acts 3:15) Author and Perfecter of our Faith (Heb. 12:2) Author of Salvation (Heb. 2:10) Beginning and End (Rev. 22:13) Blessed and only Ruler (1 Tim. 6:15) Bread of God (John 6:33) Bread of Life (John 6:35; 6:48) Bridegroom (Mt. 9:15) Capstone (Acts 4:11; 1 Pet. 2:7) Chief Cornerstone (Eph. 2:20) Chief Shepherd (1 Pet. 5:4) Christ (1 John 2:22) Creator (John 1:3) Deliverer (Rom. 11:26) Eternal Life (1 John 1:2; 5:20) Gate (John 10:9) Faithful and True (Rev. 19:11) Faithful Witness (Rev. 1:5) Faithful and True Witness (Rev. 3:14) First and Last (Rev. 1:17; 2:8; 22:13) Firstborn From the Dead (Rev. 1:5) Firstborn over all creation (Col. 1:15) Gate (John 10:9) God (John 1:1; 20:28; Heb. 1:8; Rom. 9:5; 2 Pet. 1:1;1 John 5:20; etc.) Good Shepherd (John 10:11,14) Great Shepherd (Heb. 13:20) Great High Priest (Heb. 4:14) Head of the Church (Eph. 1:22; 4:15; 5:23) Heir of all things (Heb. 1:2) High Priest (Heb. 2:17) Holy and True (Rev. 3:7) Holy One (Acts 3:14) Hope (1 Tim. 1:1) Hope of Glory (Col. 1:27) Horn of Salvation (Luke 1:69) I Am (John 8:58) Image of God (2 Cor. 4:4) Immanuel (Mt. 1:23) Judge of the living and the dead (Acts 10:42) King Eternal (1 Tim. 1:17) King of Israel (John 1:49) King of the Jews (Mt. 27:11) King of kings (1 Tim 6:15; Rev. 19:16) King of the Ages (Rev. 15:3) Lamb (Rev. 13:8) Lamb of God (John 1:29) Lamb Without Blemish (1 Pet. 1:19) Last Adam (1 Cor. 15:45) Life (John 14:6; Col. 3:4) Light of the World (John 8:12) Lion of the Tribe of Judah (Rev. 5:5) Living One (Rev. 1:18) Living Stone (1 Pet. 2:4) Lord (2 Pet. 2:20) Lord of All (Acts 10:36) Lord of Glory (1 Cor. 2:8) Lord of lords (Rev. 19:16) Man from Heaven (1 Cor. 15:48) Mediator of the New Covenant (Heb. 9:15) Mighty God (Isa. 9:6) Morning Star (Rev. 22:16) Offspring of David (Rev. 22:16) Only Begotten Son of God (John 1:18; 1 John 4:9) Our Great God and Savior (Titus 2:13) Our Holiness (1 Cor. 1:30) Our Husband (2 Cor. 11:2) Our Protection (2 Thess. 3:3) Our Redemption (1 Cor. 1:30) Our Righteousness (1 Cor. 1:30) Our Sacrificed Passover Lamb (1 Cor. 5:7) Power of God (1 Cor. 1:24) Precious Cornerstone (1 Pet. 2:6) Prophet (Acts 3:22) Rabbi (Mt. 26:25) Resurrection and Life (John 11:25) Righteous Branch (Jer. 23:5) Righteous One (Acts 7:52; 1 John 2:1) Rock (1 Cor. 10:4) Root of David (Rev. 5:5; 22:16) Ruler of God’s Creation (Rev. 3:14) Ruler of the Kings of the Earth (Rev. 1:5) Savior (Eph. 5:23; Titus 1:4; 3:6; 2 Pet. 2:20) Son of David (Lk. 18:39) Son of God (John 1:49; Heb. 4:14) Son of Man (Mt. 8:20) Son of the Most High God (Lk. 1:32) Source of Eternal Salvation for all who obey him (Heb. 5:9) The One Mediator (1 Tim. 2:5) The Stone the builders rejected (Acts 4:11) True Bread (John 6:32) True Light (John 1:9) True Vine (John 15:1) Truth (John 1:14; 14:6) Way (John 14:6) Wisdom of God (1 Cor. 1:24) Word (John 1:1) Word of God (Rev. 19:13) it's amazing how you can search through the bible to find all this but yet you can't find in the bible the passage when God said unto Moses "to stone all unruly children to death" ...you have closed your mind to not see or accept the obvious as you accuse others of the same ...and that is what faith is Again I say to you funches just give me the scripture instead of ***** footing around it.......Thats a basic MO for someone like you....so back up your crap mister. |
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Again I say to you funches just give me the scripture instead of ***** footing around it.......Thats a basic MO for someone like you....so back up your crap mister. I just want to show the forum how narrowminded you become when it come the time to discuss something negative about the bible that goes against your sunday school programming so let's find out how much you do know about the bible by asking a simple question.. so feralcatlady are you saying that nowhere in the bible exist anything about Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death .. |
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I personally love the observation that Jesus will not heal amputees. Why does he hate amputees? isn't it weird that God and Jesus cure everything but can't grow a limb back ...even an Octopus can grow an arm back ..but strangely when you ask a religious people that question they run and hide behind faith instead of answering it |
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it's amazing how you can search through the bible to find all this but yet you can't find in the bible the passage when God said unto Moses "to stone all unruly children to death" ...you have closed your mind to not see or accept the obvious as you accuse others of the same ...and that is what faith is Funches, I know that verse and I know something about it that you don't. For the Hebrew's to exact a death penalty, it required two witnesses. The witnesses then testified before a group of 12 Rabbi. If the Rabbi agree that the person deserves the death penalty, then the accused is sentenced. The accused is then taken to a high place (cliff or man-made structure) and then the witnesses would push the accused off. The witnesses would then pick up a large rock and drop it on the accused. If the accused survived, then the community would all pick up stones and throw them at the accused. The witnesses of an unruly child would have to be the parents. Not only would the parents have to ask for their child to be executed, but they would have to perform the execution themselves. The purpose of the law is revealed by Jesus' teachings. We all fall short of God's perfection. When the Israelites were told that only someone with perfect skin, no deformities, no blemishes could approach the altar of God...people still went to the altar. They didn't get it, that NONE of them were good enough to approach the altar. Imagine, someone without a single mole, blotch, scar, blemish of any kind. Does anyone like that exist? Who doesn't have a single mark on their skin at all? The purpose of the law is to show how much we need a savior. The law you quoted is supposed to show the parents that the ONLY reason they are allowed to live is because THEIR father has taken mercy on them and decided to not have them executed. |
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Edited by
wouldee
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Wed 12/05/07 10:11 AM
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You know something,Funches ?
The first mention of stoning was an Egyptian form of penance that Moses apprehended as a threat to his own people as a consequence of destroying and defacing Egyptian images of worship. What I found was a consistent 'eye for an eye' analogy being dumped in the lap of the children of Abraham that subsequently had journeyed in expatriation from Pharoah and further insulted their deliverance from by God when they rebelled in the wilderness and murmured among themselves about being better off where they were under Pharoah. the children being thirsty, seemed to be a threat to Moses' being stoned by his own people , and further consequences for aligning themselves in marriage with followers of Molech and producing children and foreign relationships once again included the stoning of the children of the children of Abraham that had so mingled. Also depicting that God would prefer that they leave Egyptian customs where they found them as well, meaning don't think on them....but no!!!! They continued to embrace the concept of 'stoning'. hhhmmmmm...... It is one of reciprocity,, Funches, not one of the will of God. All things considered, it does employ the age old adage, " do unto others as you would have them do to you". Apparently the lesson was not learned and the lesson was retaught. Ad infinitum, if you will. Nothing has changed. It is an age old lesson to learn on any level at any time by anyone. At All. Would you agree? It goes as such : that employing Egyptian penance is equal to erecting graven images in the mind and by extension it is a form of idolatry. Think. Reason with the early lessons brought on by wrong assumptions and engendered upon God as beinng in the realm of His choosing. Tough love there, what? |
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Again I say to you funches just give me the scripture instead of ***** footing around it.......Thats a basic MO for someone like you....so back up your crap mister. I just want to show the forum how narrowminded you become when it come the time to discuss something negative about the bible that goes against your sunday school programming so let's find out how much you do know about the bible by asking a simple question.. so feralcatlady are you saying that nowhere in the bible exist anything about Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death .. Im not saying that at all.....Im saying show me where the Lord asked moses to kill the children....pretty simple......And don't even try to think your anything when it comes to bible scripture...I will eat you and spit you out mr. |
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Funches, I know that verse and I know something about it that you don't. maybe you need to explain it to "feralcatlady" that has the habit of going around preaching gloom and doom about judgement day and is just as ignorant of what's in the bible than someone that never read it The purpose of the law is to show how much we need a savior. last time the savior couldn't even save hmeself |
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I personally love the observation that Jesus will not heal amputees. Why does he hate amputees? isn't it weird that God and Jesus cure everything but can't grow a limb back ...even an Octopus can grow an arm back ..but strangely when you ask a religious people that question they run and hide behind faith instead of answering it Can you show me a single verse where a man missing a limb came to Jesus, asked for healing and was refused? Did it ever occur to you that losing a limb, even today, is very deadly? 2000 years ago, if someone lost a limb, they were dead. Period. End of discussion. Perhaps a person could have been born that way, without legs or arms. That is a rare deformity today and is rarely found without complications. Complications that might prevent a child from living longer than a few hours. Perhaps the complete absence of a person with a limb deficiency in the Bible is a clue? Why assume that if God exists, God must hate someone without all of their limbs? Isn't it more reasonable to assume that since nobody like that is even mentioned in the Bible, that there must not have been many people living in those days who had less than the normal number of limbs? |
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last time the savior couldn't even save hmeself Choose not to. Jesus told the apostles when they tried to defend him, that he could call down angels to carry him away. Jesus could also have killed his tormentors. He could have healed himself. But he had to die to pay for our sins. The punishment for sin never changed, but God's mercy allows us to accept Jesus' sacrifice in place of our own spiritual death. |
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Funches, I know that verse and I know something about it that you don't. maybe you need to explain it to "feralcatlady" that has the habit of going around preaching gloom and doom about judgement day and is just as ignorant of what's in the bible than someone that never read it The purpose of the law is to show how much we need a savior. last time the savior couldn't even save hmeself Your last word......hmeself......... That is an impossible typo on my keyboard funches. There is more to your story. I feel you. |
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