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Topic: can you describe God without sounding delusional
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Wed 12/05/07 03:29 PM



funches,

Destiny is not inescapable.

Position in destiny is .

Which position is preferred is the choice of any one individual.

Position and destiny leave nothing unexplored.

Be it now, later or never.

In the meantime, we do what we do and it is what it is.


by saiding destiny is not inescapble therefore lessen the power of the God by saiding the God is not all knowing or have a divine plan



God's power is a different issue.

God's power is not diminished by man's destiny.

Nor is God's power magnified by man's destiny.

God's power is God's.

Ours is ours.


if the God is all knowing then the God already know how you will be judged on judgement day no matter what path you take it will lead to the same conclusion

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Wed 12/05/07 03:30 PM

have you ever said anything nice to anyone in your entire life?


that's not the topic ...."esso"

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Wed 12/05/07 03:34 PM



funches,

Destiny is not inescapable.

Position in destiny is .

Which position is preferred is the choice of any one individual.

Position and destiny leave nothing unexplored.

Be it now, later or never.

In the meantime, we do what we do and it is what it is.


by saiding destiny is not inescapble therefore lessen the power of the God by saiding the God is not all knowing or have a divine plan



God's power is a different issue.

God's power is not diminished by man's destiny.

Nor is God's power magnified by man's destiny.

God's power is God's.

Ours is ours.


We have come full circle with countless proof, but no follow up has been sought nor was there any intention for the poster to do so. There is no seeker here I do not believe, and I have refrained from addressing him directly recently because it has become transparent what the purpose of this thread is for. There isn't one. We are in the domain of power hunger. One with a God complex has no room for the real thing, to mediate a video game with real people for pleasure. Funches will poke your leg and say 'push your button' tag lines to get you to keep coming back, but now I am satisfied that he quite literally has no excuse. He probably knew better before, but it has been made clear and evident to anyone who has discernment.:heart:

I left those cables by the roadside for him. Further posts will be addressed to others as he is a non-entity to me on this site.

Esso, everyone knows what he is doing. Most of us are just hoping on slim chance that he would finally get off his butt and actually do something.

My turn is over.

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Wed 12/05/07 03:37 PM
funches, I find you amusing, not in a bad way, but in an ironic way. The religious are trying to save all the lost souls that have not found or have turn away their god. And you are trying to save the godful from themselves because you believe it is a mass hypnosis.laugh What a conundrumlaughflowerforyou

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Wed 12/05/07 03:39 PM

We have come full circle with countless proof, but no follow up has been sought nor was there any intention for the poster to do so.


yes countless proof that you can't answer the original question for this topic ...

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Wed 12/05/07 03:39 PM


Prayer and worship require knowledge of to whom this prayer and worship is directed.


prayer and worship requires the "need" for something ..the God would have known far in advance what the need was which means that the need should have been fulfilled before the need ever arise so therefore why is prayer and worship required unless to feed the ego of the God or to give hope to the hopeless





Funches,

Prayer from the heart void of the Holy Spirit is prayer to invite the presence of the Holy Spirit.

Prayer from the heart filledd with the Holy Spirit is thanksgiving to God, JHWH, for the Holy Spirit.

Continuance is fellowship with that relationship.

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Wed 12/05/07 03:40 PM


God knows everything that has, is or will happen.

God doesn't choose our destiny, we do.


how can you choose your own destiny within life when the actions of others can change the happenstance that take place in your life ..


You can still make your own decisions. The decisions of others will effect you. That's just how it works. How you react to the things that happen in your life is also judged. It all works out to strengthen and grow character. Sometimes people will hurt you and it's your decision how you allow that hurt to change your life.

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Wed 12/05/07 03:43 PM


God knows everything that has, is or will happen.

God doesn't choose our destiny, we do.


how can you choose your own destiny within life when the actions of others can change the happenstance that take place in your life ..



Funches,


The actions of others are consequential to our own choices.

ad infinitum.

Personal governance with or without the guidance of the Holy Spirit is the determining factor over only our own actions.

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Wed 12/05/07 03:43 PM

funches, I find you amusing, not in a bad way, but in an ironic way. The religious are trying to save all the lost souls that have not found or have turn away their god. And you are trying to save the godful from themselves because you believe it is a mass hypnosis.laugh What a conundrumlaughflowerforyou


I find it amusing you come in here to create mayham instead of answering the original question

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Wed 12/05/07 03:45 PM



Prayer and worship require knowledge of to whom this prayer and worship is directed.


prayer and worship requires the "need" for something ..the God would have known far in advance what the need was which means that the need should have been fulfilled before the need ever arise so therefore why is prayer and worship required unless to feed the ego of the God or to give hope to the hopeless



Funches,

Prayer from the heart void of the Holy Spirit is prayer to invite the presence of the Holy Spirit.

Prayer from the heart filledd with the Holy Spirit is thanksgiving to God, JHWH, for the Holy Spirit.

Continuance is fellowship with that relationship.


and how do you know that God is a holy spirit ..please don't say feelings ..it could be gas...

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Wed 12/05/07 03:46 PM




funches,

Destiny is not inescapable.

Position in destiny is .

Which position is preferred is the choice of any one individual.

Position and destiny leave nothing unexplored.

Be it now, later or never.

In the meantime, we do what we do and it is what it is.


by saiding destiny is not inescapble therefore lessen the power of the God by saiding the God is not all knowing or have a divine plan



God's power is a different issue.

God's power is not diminished by man's destiny.

Nor is God's power magnified by man's destiny.

God's power is God's.

Ours is ours.


if the God is all knowing then the God already know how you will be judged on judgement day no matter what path you take it will lead to the same conclusion


Funches,

Yes. That is true.

The gift of the Holy Spirit having been received is the one and only deetermining factor which predestinates a favorable position at the Judgement Of God, JHWH.

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Wed 12/05/07 03:47 PM
Edited by creativesoul on Wed 12/05/07 03:48 PM
funches:

Why do you want someone to answer your original question?

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Wed 12/05/07 03:47 PM

funches, I find you amusing, not in a bad way, but in an ironic way. The religious are trying to save all the lost souls that have not found or have turn away their god. And you are trying to save the godful from themselves because you believe it is a mass hypnosis.laugh What a conundrumlaughflowerforyou


What is the truth then dragoness? Being observant is not a purpose, it states a point of view without any hope inherently related to it. So then, life is just an anarchist state of being with only death as a result.

I know 2 people raised from the dead in Jesus name. An observable and medical fact, one died 'hours' before.

Not argueing with you, I'm sharing to let you know it is real and I care. :heart:

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Wed 12/05/07 03:47 PM
ok I left and prayed and asked the Lord for guidance. I will say what I have to say and be done with this thread. With the help from a truly inspiring woman Beth Moore.

If you find dissatisfaction with God, this waves a red flag to the enemy. The empty places in our lives become the enemy's playground. Picture a spacious, green golf course. The flags tell the golfers where the holes are. Something similar happens to us in the UNSEEN. None of us have reached adulthood without some holes in our lives. Some have more then others due to hurts and traumas, but we all have holes. You can be sure the enemy has flagged every hole as a target. We spend untold energies in anger and bitterness over why those holes exist and who is to blame. Healing begins when we recognize how vulnerable those empty places make us, tally the cost of filling them with useless things, and seek wholeness in Christ alone. In my opinion, wholeness in Christ is that state of being when every hole has been filled in Christ.

No one can take away the holes of someones life. The damage cannot be undone. It must be healed. The holes can't be taken away, but they can be filled. As we take our last at satisfaction in Christ, our goal is to see satisfaction at its greatest beauty. We want to see a picture of a satisfied person fully displaying God's splendor. Isaiah 58 paints the portrait perfectly. Lets step up to the easel and take a good look.

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Wed 12/05/07 03:49 PM



God knows everything that has, is or will happen.

God doesn't choose our destiny, we do.


how can you choose your own destiny within life when the actions of others can change the happenstance that take place in your life ..


You can still make your own decisions. The decisions of others will effect you. That's just how it works. How you react to the things that happen in your life is also judged. It all works out to strengthen and grow character. Sometimes people will hurt you and it's your decision how you allow that hurt to change your life.


so are you saiding that God doesn't known the final outcome before you are even born

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Wed 12/05/07 03:51 PM

if the God is all knowing then the God already know how you will be judged on judgement day no matter what path you take it will lead to the same conclusion


God already knows how we will be judged.

God knows because of the actions/thoughts we have, are and will make.

Therefore, our actions determine our future. So what you said isn't true. If you take the narrow path, you will be found innocent. If you take the wide road you will be found guilty. That's how it works, your decisions determine your final judgement. You have full control of your own destiny. A drunk driver might hit you and paralyse you from the neck down, but you are the only one who can decide if you will accept Jesus as your Lord. It sucks, big time, that people can hurt us and use us, but how you deal with your hurts really shows your character. Dwelling on the fact that someone has or might hurt you is pointless, but if you can take that hurt and become a better person, that shows a strong character.

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Wed 12/05/07 03:52 PM

Funches,
The actions of others are consequential to our own choices.


the casinos call that gambling

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Wed 12/05/07 03:52 PM




Prayer and worship require knowledge of to whom this prayer and worship is directed.


prayer and worship requires the "need" for something ..the God would have known far in advance what the need was which means that the need should have been fulfilled before the need ever arise so therefore why is prayer and worship required unless to feed the ego of the God or to give hope to the hopeless



Funches,

Prayer from the heart void of the Holy Spirit is prayer to invite the presence of the Holy Spirit.

Prayer from the heart filledd with the Holy Spirit is thanksgiving to God, JHWH, for the Holy Spirit.

Continuance is fellowship with that relationship.


and how do you know that God is a holy spirit ..please don't say feelings ..it could be gas...



Funches,


Only the individual can know what God,JHWH, has deposited into one's being, apart from God, JHWH, who is present as the Holy Spirit.

It is one of personal and confidential relationship and fellowship between God,JHWH, and man.

It is not one of any other's concern.

One that man cannot betray, and one that God,JHWH, will not betray.

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Wed 12/05/07 03:55 PM

funches:

Why do you want someone to answer your original question?


because "creativesoul" answering the original question is what you do in threads ...

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Wed 12/05/07 03:57 PM

Funches,

Yes. That is true.

The gift of the Holy Spirit having been received is the one and only deetermining factor which predestinates a favorable position at the Judgement Of God, JHWH.

is that a fancy way of saying your-destiny is pre-determine

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